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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Loved the flashback, Haku and Zabuza were great characters. Damn you, Kabuto, using the Edo Tensei to turn Zabuza and Haku into emotionless puppets. Behold, all Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist have gathered. The fuck was going on with Haku's lips, they weren't originally like that, right? |
ZhouMay 31, 2012 4:41 AM
| Ok but too much recaps I hope they dont ruin every scene like that |
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| Oh god. over half the epsiode whit flashbacks. |
| More Kakashi, less flashbacks please. |
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| It was okay Didn't expect to see the seven ninja swordsmen in this episode but it was nice. bit to much filler/flashbacks though. |
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It was nice to see Haku and Zabusa again, but hey, 2 min fighting 18 min talking doesn't impress me. The show is becoming nothing but talk and flashbacks. It's a god damn war, show us some good fights already. |
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| Trus ownosourus said: Trust me the fight against the 7 swordsmen in theIt was nice to see Haku and Zabusa again, but hey, 2 min fighting 18 min talking doesn't impress me. The show is becoming nothing but talk and flashbacks. It's a god damn war, show us some good fights already. Manga was the most epic thing i have ever seen |
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| Well, hated the flashbacks, but still, nice to see those 2, as well as some of their story again. Good old times. Animations seems to suffer lately though, some parts are really well done, and some are horrendous. |
| Ahh, I haven't seen Zabuza and Haku fight in like...forever. |
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| Well, that sure was an QUALITY episode. Even the flashback scenes looked worse than the originals. Other than that - an okay episode. Hopefuly they will put a bit more effort into the next one and lay low with the flashbacks while they're at it. And ownosourus - don't listen to the shit trollbrah is spouting. |
ownosourus said: It was nice to see Haku and Zabusa again, but hey, 2 min fighting 18 min talking doesn't impress me. The show is becoming nothing but talk and flashbacks. It's a god damn war, show us some good fights already. Well they have to transition between telling story and showing the action. If they don't have any background story to tell on any of the characters and the arc was just pure action, then it would be like watching the huco mundo arc in bleach is that what you seriously want?? Kishimoto kind of tells a story in a different way, instead of layering it out in pieces, he kind of tells that characters story, or background in full, then what follows is usually the action or the fighting. I can understand that turning into be some kind of cliche way of evolving things for some of these characters but i would rather have some character development, then sit through 80 episodes of non stop hollow and arancar fights. Then it just because a pile of lifeless characters who you don't even care bout, can't make a connection to and always wishing that the next fight would come to an end. In this way at least things are kind of fresh in your mind and even though some of the flashbacks may of been shown before, it helps build character depth and gives substance and more meaning to what is happening currently in the war. I thought by now you would be used to this, cause its been like this from the very beginning. |
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| The recaps made the first half pretty bad. Next ep looks like more recaps. Nuff said. |
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link9us said: ownosourus said: It was nice to see Haku and Zabusa again, but hey, 2 min fighting 18 min talking doesn't impress me. The show is becoming nothing but talk and flashbacks. It's a god damn war, show us some good fights already. Well they have to transition between telling story and showing the action. If they don't have any background story to tell on any of the characters and the arc was just pure action, then it would be like watching the huco mundo arc in bleach is that what you seriously want?? Kishimoto kind of tells a story in a different way, instead of layering it out in pieces, he kind of tells that characters story, or background in full, then what follows is usually the action or the fighting. I can understand that turning into be some kind of cliche way of evolving things for some of these characters but i would rather have some character development, then sit through 80 episodes of non stop hollow and arancar fights. Then it just because a pile of lifeless characters who you don't even care bout, can't make a connection to and always wishing that the next fight would come to an end. In this way at least things are kind of fresh in your mind and even though some of the flashbacks may of been shown before, it helps build character depth and gives substance and more meaning to what is happening currently in the war. I thought by now you would be used to this, cause its been like this from the very beginning. Um no. We already have the background story and the first Arc of naruto Repetition isn't going to add anything new Do we want a pure action arc? No but thats how this arc is And it's kishi's fault. If he wanted to make this arc have a story then ADD a story, dont just show us something we already know |
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link9us said: ownosourus said: It was nice to see Haku and Zabusa again, but hey, 2 min fighting 18 min talking doesn't impress me. The show is becoming nothing but talk and flashbacks. It's a god damn war, show us some good fights already. Well they have to transition between telling story and showing the action. If they don't have any background story to tell on any of the characters and the arc was just pure action, then it would be like watching the huco mundo arc in bleach is that what you seriously want?? Kishimoto kind of tells a story in a different way, instead of layering it out in pieces, he kind of tells that characters story, or background in full, then what follows is usually the action or the fighting. I can understand that turning into be some kind of cliche way of evolving things for some of these characters but i would rather have some character development, then sit through 80 episodes of non stop hollow and arancar fights. Then it just because a pile of lifeless characters who you don't even care bout, can't make a connection to and always wishing that the next fight would come to an end. In this way at least things are kind of fresh in your mind and even though some of the flashbacks may of been shown before, it helps build character depth and gives substance and more meaning to what is happening currently in the war. I thought by now you would be used to this, cause its been like this from the very beginning. Um no. We already have the background story and the first Arc of naruto Repetition isn't going to add anything new Do we want a pure action arc? No but thats how this arc is And it's kishi's fault. If he wanted to make this arc have a story then ADD a story, dont just show us something we already know |
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| I didn't expect the 7 Swordsmans this episode,great episode ignoring the flashbacks.I need to stop reading the manga cuz watching these action scenes animated is better and knowing what happens next from reading the manga takes all the fun away |
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| Skipped the flashbacks. Now all the past seven swordsman of the mist have appeared. Kakashi and crew have a big fight on their hands. |
| Meh, the episode was great, loved Zabuza and Haku, but wayyyy too many flashbacks. Hope they don't show many of those in the next episodes. 4/5 |
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| Zabusa needed to do more fighting this episode but seems we will get are fair share of that next week. All the seven swordsman together next week should be very nice can't wait to be honest. |
| I became curious and made a brief comparison of Haku from Naruto Ep 12 and Shippuden Ep 256. Also of note: Shippuden's Haku sounds way more "Totally a girl" than the first Haku, who was much more ambiguous. click for bigger man-girl face.  Also of note: Shippuden's Haku sounds way more "Totally a girl" than the first Haku, who was much more ambiguous. Also, these events were originally aired 6.5 years ago, so I don't blame them for providing a little reminder of what happened...but this is too much reminder. I wish they included all this in that little recap mini arch instead. |
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| The flashbacks were a little to much, but other than that awesome episode :) |
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| Great episode, loved Zabuza and Haku and its awesome to see them again, too bad they are now "pupets for killing"... Looks like its becoming serious now, the memebers of the seven sword thingie >.< Anyway, hope the next ep will be more action and less small talk... 5/5 |
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| This episode clearly show me how much the Naruto series evolved in time. When Naruto first started, it was merely about more plain Ninja world, there was only fighting styles, Ninja tools, etc. There wasn't any flashy moves, too much chakura, nor too much of any other supernatural content. Now the story is in a far different world. I don't like the way it is now. I didn't like this episode. (-1) Haku is now a total homo. (-1) Too many flashbacks. (-1) No progress in the story. A top ranked anime shouldn't be like this. Most people are watching this show because it made a good start when it first started. If it was like this when is started, it wouldn't be this popular. |
AhmedHanMay 31, 2012 12:40 PM
| I felt like it was going inception with the recaps :-/ I laughed pretty hard when that guy got his insides set on fire and was yelling about it. That's a bad day haha |
| Great episode :) I love Zabuza and Haku. |
| Great episode... was the best arc of naruto kid series.... haaaaaaaaaaaa... made me cry again... remember this???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfI368VgU6c grief and sorrow. Just by listening it, i drop tears. naruto kid series was best at that time with great ost, now we watch this shit. 4/5 from me, loved this flashback |
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| Disliked it, I'm now waiting for a show that is mostly flashbacks. If I want to know what's going on I'll just look back at the episode. I do find it great that Kabuto now has a way to 'disable' the feelings of the retrieved dead people, that makes it not so flawed and less easy for the 'good guys' to talk the bad out of the dead ones (so they vanish) every episode. Also.. they did find out really easy about the under-earth zetsu's? That kinda sucked, I was hoping for a 'surprise attack' against a few of the stronger ninja's. |
| Why is Haku wearing lipstick ............... That's not right.. And another thing, how did Zabuza get his sword back (still broken from when it got cut in half by the raikage)... That had me lost. Thought that Haku and Zabuza were going to disappear when Kakashi and Sakura were talking to them and they showed a 10 minute flashback but apparently that was just for fun in case we decided to watch Shippuden without seeing Naruto first. I guess he's strengthened the reanimation jutsu somehow using the new chakra he got. This episode was alright, seemed to have a lot of unanswered plotholes though. It was crazy seeing all those ninja dying. |
| I think the artwork was really lacking. The flashbacks were nice-ish but they changed a lot from the original. I liked Naruto's speech though and Zabuza in tears, but Zabuza was supposed to be carried to Haku's side and Gato's men were supposed to stab their spears into him or something... And lastly why did they change Haku, he was fine the way he was |
| Zabuza and haku arc was the best one in the whole series. |
| lol i just skipped the entire first part and most of the second part. nothing of value was lost. also the animation got crappy at the end. |
| omg every thread people complain about flashbacks, dont even watch then. True fans enjoy it all. |
| Reading the manga... I kind of regret it now since I know what is happening. Thus this is very hard to enjoy now. Though I hope they lengthen the fight with the 7 Swordsman of the Mist since those fights weren't shown in the manga... Damn flashbacks... but can't help it. I hope they improve the animation for the fights. |
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ginko187 said: omg every thread people complain about flashbacks, dont even watch then. True fans enjoy it all. Well I kind of get where people are coming from. We have to wait a week for the episodes to come out... so everyone really wants to see some action or something. I kind of liked the flashbacks, but at the same time I didn't. I didn't like them because they altered the original ones that aired [as i mentioned earlier] But I liked the crying scene with Zabuza, since it made him seem more human. I'm a Naruto fan, but even though I didn't exactly like this episode, I sat through the entire thing. The episode was a bit painful to watch ... plus the art in this episode was really lacking. |
RobUsaB said: I became curious and made a brief comparison of Haku from Naruto Ep 12 and Shippuden Ep 256. Also of note: Shippuden's Haku sounds way more "Totally a girl" than the first Haku, who was much more ambiguous. click for bigger man-girl face. Also of note: Shippuden's Haku sounds way more "Totally a girl" than the first Haku, who was much more ambiguous. Also, these events were originally aired 6.5 years ago, so I don't blame them for providing a little reminder of what happened...but this is too much reminder. I wish they included all this in that little recap mini arch instead. I AM SO HAPPY SOMEONE DID THIS. YES YES YES. |
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ginko187 said: omg every thread people complain about flashbacks, dont even watch then. True fans enjoy it all. You win the dumbest comment of the week award |
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Crouchez said: Well, that sure was an QUALITY episode. Even the flashback scenes looked worse than the originals. Other than that - an okay episode. Hopefuly they will put a bit more effort into the next one and lay low with the flashbacks while they're at it. And ownosourus - don't listen to the shit trollbrah is spouting. QFT |
| Yuck the animation was a mess. Its like watching episode 167 but with a lot less fluid animation. This episode really made me question whether Haku was really a Trap. |
OnlyForVivianJun 1, 2012 2:50 AM
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| it was ok i guess the zabuza story is good |
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| I always knew Zabuza and Haku would make another appearance somehow. |
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| Terrible animation and flashbacks again?!?! I'm afraid the whole war will become nothing but flashbacks. I don't like the reanimation jutsu either. Normal fights are not an option since the reanimated can't be killed. I would have preferred a bigger (and living) Akatsuki group and a the rest normal ninja's. So that that a new story could unfold. |
| The action was good in the beginning, but they showed to much flashback. The fighting scenes weren't that great, but the seven swordsman entrance was pretty hot. It wasn't that bad, but once again there was way too much recap. |
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| This is being dragged out so much. |
| Too much flasbacks, but in general - i've liked the episode. 4/5. |
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iWin101 said: Yuck the animation was a mess. Its like watching episode 167 but with a lot less fluid animation. This episode really made me question whether Haku was really a Trap. Second picture: LOL, DERP! Some images with Zabuza: |
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| haku-zabuza are back can't wait for the sequel. 5/5 |
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