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Aug 19, 2008 11:11 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Great episode.
Nami finally finished with Absalom and a nice moment between Nami and Lola . But the best part was the ending!
I’m really looking forward for the next one!
Aug 21, 2008 5:06 PM
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yeah @ least Its becoming intresting ;D cant wait till some nice fights hell yeah nice ep
“If you win, you live. If you lose, you die. If you don’t fight, you can’t win.”
Aug 21, 2008 11:52 PM
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Loved the episode. They really need to get off Thriller Bark soon as I'm starting to lose interest in this arc, Though I'm really looking forward to the "Strategy Fusion 15" in the next episode.
Aug 22, 2008 10:12 AM
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Hell yes Nami! Man the subs I watched where HORRIBLE. But I guess beggars can't be choosers. At least I managed to follow it since I read the manga and all.
Aug 22, 2008 2:34 PM
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The best part of this episode was the preview for the next.

Now is where the good stuff begins. Looking forward to it.
Aug 22, 2008 10:58 PM
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Next episode looks very promising. I also stumbled upon a set of really bad subs, but I think animecrazy has updated since with better ones.
Sep 1, 2008 1:02 PM
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Cool episode! Op's always full with Epic fights!!
Nami finally woked up after so many episodes ~lol
Sep 2, 2008 2:51 PM
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Stuck with INP's subs :P

Awesome episode, I'm glad Nami finally woke up and kicked ass =)




Sep 3, 2008 6:19 AM
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good eps Love Nami's finnisher XD lmao
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Dec 11, 2009 2:08 PM

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I feel sorry for Absalom. While the Strawhat crewmembers are confronting Oz, hes getting raped by the pig-zombie .*shivers*

Not even he deserves that, all he did wrong was be attracted to Nami, and let's face it, she IS a babe.
Feb 23, 2010 1:38 PM

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I was wondering when they all were going to fight him at once. I mean comon, they spent the last 5 episodes fighting him one on one or just sitting there watching him. Comeon theres like 10 ppl in the team and you cant even do a two vs one. -_-

This also got me thinking... Up to this episode they only had like 3 fights where they used proper teamwork. Zoro and Usopp vs the CP9 dude doesnt count. They were running the whole time.
The long cat island arc, luffy and sanji on the prison island, and im sure theres one or two others.

"What happens when we die?" I know that the ones who love us will miss us.
Mar 15, 2010 3:18 AM

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Nice moment between Lola and Nami. :)
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
May 21, 2010 5:00 AM

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Rather dragged and uninteresting episode, but I liked Nami's moment, and finally we're done with Absalom and Lola's sub-plot.

Now the ending was superb! Can't wait for the next episode!
Aug 19, 2010 9:05 PM

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Lola gonna break her off a piece.
Apr 7, 2011 2:38 AM

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This episode was ok. Kind of slow. Finally that bastard Absolam got what was coming to him? Don't underestimate nami lol nami sure is a skilled fighter, she has came along way since then and in some cases I some times feels like she is more fearsome then the other crew mates.

I just KNEW that the Mask on usopp would protect him, haha. I foresaw this before it happened. Thats hilarious, so oz has no idea who Usopp is cause the photo has his Sogeking mask on.



May 9, 2011 7:20 PM

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I loved the ending to this episode and Nami's "fight". Other than that, not a whole lot happened. But, man that ending scene was wicked.
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Jun 1, 2011 2:48 PM

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Nice episode, liked the ending with Nami, Absalom and the other woman :)

I still find Zombie Luffy epic, he's just a giant strong baaaakaaa ^^

Awesome ending, I love the battle theme they use everytime they get serieus, it fits so well! All of them looked so cool, it almost made me forget I don't like it to see them beat up Zombie Luffy (and seeing him beating up his nakama) _O_
Jun 11, 2011 12:34 AM

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Nami did quick work of Absalom.. the next episode hopefully will be more interesting! :-D
Jul 29, 2011 11:27 PM

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Nami <333
Nov 10, 2012 9:49 AM

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So he says the words: true potential. Well its not a complete crew with a captain but they should still show some good strength.

Behold of my awesomeness~
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Nov 27, 2012 1:04 PM

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I didn't really like this episode. Given that I'm not a fan of Absalom comedy (it creeps the fuck out of me, rather than finding it even remotely funny), the Lola moment was a bit random and unexplained (so, she knew that Nami was a woman? Oh, okay) to really be emotional for me, and this was for sure the worst -in fact, the only one I don't like- "epic walk" scene of the series. Very poorly handled. And what is this shit of dark eyes. They don't look menacing or badass that way, damn.

Nami's "fight" was kind of lovely, but I expected way more of it.
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Aug 8, 2013 7:51 PM

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yay nami defeated absalom! i think it was partially due to infatuation but he's defeated.
loved the new friendship that sprouted up between her and lola.
strawhat crew badassery coming soon!
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Nov 29, 2013 9:31 AM

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The Nami and Lola moments were great. I hope we see Lola popping up again before this arc ends.

I'm looking forward to the next episode with all the crew fighting together, that's always awesome.

However this arc is beginning to lag a bit for me and you just know that Luffy's Big Boss fight is going to be drawn out but I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.
Dec 10, 2013 3:26 PM
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raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

pacing too slow
story really bad

What's the manga chapter for this please? I don't feel like spending 20 minutes on 1-minute worth of story -_-
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Jan 7, 2014 2:38 AM

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funny episode
Jan 13, 2014 12:11 AM
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Where in the hell does Nami pull her weapon out from? This has happened quite a bit in One Piece. In this arc she was undressed and dressed by that munster-esque character so presumably all weapons were removed from the person/ clothes. I shudder to think where Nami could be hiding the aforementioned weapon.
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Jan 23, 2014 1:55 PM

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Aibrucey said:
Where in the hell does Nami pull her weapon out from?

I was wondering the same thing but I don't really mind "plot holes" like this one...
I liked Nami's and Lola's moment but I loooooved the epic finale!!! Next episode must be an awesome one!
p.s. don't know why people are complaining about the pace of this arc. Enies Lobby was waaaay slower. And One Piece in general, is a slow anime in my opinion. (well, I don't have to wait one week to watch the next episode true, but still...)
Sep 6, 2014 2:43 AM

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Next episode looks awesome.

Oct 4, 2014 9:40 PM

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At least the Absalom stuff is over.
"Let Justice Be Done!"

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Fight again, fight again for justice!
Mar 31, 2015 3:16 PM

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That ending tho
Hell yeah
Jun 10, 2015 6:44 PM

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next up
Mar 31, 2016 8:41 AM

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Nami fanservice in this arc is just going too far. I mean love boobs but this is just disgusting. This is not just fanservice anymore, it's pretty much promoting rape.
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May 26, 2016 12:49 PM
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nice one nami *-* but no one took her weapon? really ....?


Jul 24, 2016 1:05 AM

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Finally we can move past Absalom he was outstaying his welcome here
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Dec 16, 2018 2:36 AM

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I found this episode good! Ever since Absalom first took Nami I suspected she had faked passing out and that she was planning to get the upper hand on Absalom, so when that didn't occur I was sad. For her to finish off an Absalom that admittedly was already close to collapsing from his Sanji fight really made me happy because ever since I thought that she'd fight him I really wanted it to occur. Nami is so strong and fierce. When she gets those fierce looks on her face and steps up to fight for what she believes in it's always so great. And I thought her relationship with Lola was sweet.

Someone in this thread thought her relationship with Lola was dumb but if you think about it Nami was the first one to treat Lola like she wasn't a monster and she was the first person to support her in following her dream. When she did this, Lola showed a kind side to Nami that surprised her and made her realize not to judge a book by its cover(a prominent theme in One Piece). Then later to show Nami that their newfound friendship meant something and that she appreciated the support, she helped her escape. This was a really nice development for the seemingly 1D Lola and although the two had few interactions the fact they formed a bond over them was really freaking sweet. Nami seeing Lola get struck down and insulted by the man she loves made her step up and fight back. Nami may act cowardly or self interested but as we've seen since the Buggy arc, she can't watch people get hurt, especially her friends. ^_^

Perona was uber cute this episode. I think she's easily the cutest One Piece villain. The cutest overall character is Zoro though.

Oars is a big dummy and he thought he killed the Straw Hats when he hadn't yet. I love how he yells he's looking for a woman and how Perona thought that meant her. I also love how he didn't realize Usopp was "the cool hero" as well as how he calls Sogeking a "cool hero", it's so sweet. The way the Straw Hats faced him here reminded me of the Enies Lobby staredown. I sincerely hope we get one of the first major cases of teamwork, one that rivals Usopp and Chopper's fight in Alabasta, and that the Straw Hats actually take down Oars! It would be so cool to see that occur in a team fight. Maybe Chopper could even push himself to transforming. Meanwhile Luffy would get an actual 1v1 with Moria. I've already said why I don't think this will occur, if it wants to be really generic everyone can lose and Luffy can get there, see them hurt, and get in a rage fighting against Oars, but I have hope it can do something different(even if that itself would still be cheesy and fun in its own way).

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Nami fanservice in this arc is just going too far. I mean love boobs but this is just disgusting. This is not just fanservice anymore, it's pretty much promoting rape.

I agree that the overt fanservice (even if the bath scene was called for being a horror cliche among many others in the arc) is too much. I prefer the old character design of her from Arlong and don't like how sexualized she is now. That said, I think she is a wonderfully strong character and I accept the crazy inaccurate female designs as just a quirk of Oda liking to draw big boobed ladies. However, saying "it's pretty much promoting rape" is ridiculous.

Assuming you aren't speaking about the problematic way it supports Lola's obsession of Absalom and not his over Nami, and rather the way she's objectified and assaulted and forced by him, that's not true. He's absolutely vilified. He's portrayed as a dumbass, insecure, power hungry, obsessed rapist and the way he licked Robin or held Nami back in the bath or presumably knocked her out in some way to force her into marriage are there to make us hate him. I never once laughed at his humor and the way it painted him as a monster made it cathartic when he got his butt kicked. It contrasts Absalom and Sanji as both love woman dearly but Sanji's comes from a place of chivalry and a gentleman's code, for even if he does love their beauty his Dogguin even refused to hurt Lola purely due to her status as a female. Sanji works for woman and tries to make them happy, whereas Absalom obsesses over women and due to his power hungry nature he tries to forcibly make them his. It's disgusting and it's why Sanji was so furious at him for hurting the women he loves and it made for his fight scene to be so strong.

Sanji kicking his butt and Nami finishing him off, on top of his poor characterization is, to me, Oda's way of not promoting rape but vilifying people who act like Absalom. I know you probably meant that by hyperbole but I just found it problematic to phrase it that way despite how much I agreed with it so I wanted to type this out.
Jul 10, 2020 10:17 AM

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I really liked this episode! Seeing how traumatized Perona was towards her unpleasant experience with Usopp and wanting to get out of there as fast as possible was golden.

It's great that Namizou was brave enough to deal the final blow for Lola's sake since Absalom would've ended up being more of an annoyance for longer if it weren't for that. She looked really cool using her Swing Arm too!

The Straw Hats are back and eager for Round 2! With the resolves being strengthened, I'm a lot more excited for their attempt this time around.








May 24, 2021 7:27 AM

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Finally, Nami won. Poor Lola. I'm glad she's fine.
Also, Nami's so cute. :3
Aug 7, 2021 8:34 AM

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Lovely episode
absalom's dreams got electrified
lola was able to kiss absalom at last
Whole crew is up again :D
Nice buildup for the next ep!!!
Mar 25, 2022 9:15 AM

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Stuff is getting interesting !
Also congratulations to Lola And Absalom !
Aug 9, 2022 9:23 PM

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is it just me or has nami's character become drawn like a stick figure with two watermelon tits? it's disgusting to look at. was it always this way?
big fight coming up, lets go!
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Aug 17, 2022 11:05 PM

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Aibrucey said:
Where in the hell does Nami pull her weapon out from? This has happened quite a bit in One Piece. In this arc she was undressed and dressed by that munster-esque character so presumably all weapons were removed from the person/ clothes. I shudder to think where Nami could be hiding the aforementioned weapon.


Yeah... It doesn't make sense and it's never explained, either.
Aug 31, 2022 8:46 PM
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idk just did stop asking me
Dec 2, 2022 10:09 AM
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It was a cool ending ngl
May 29, 2023 2:33 AM
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Absalom delusion is hilarious 🤣
Jun 4, 2023 12:32 AM

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These episodes are so slow. Even on 1.75x speed, it feels exhausting.
Jul 3, 2023 12:38 PM
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I’m glad Nami got the final blow on Absalom, it makes the finishing blow 10x more satisfying.

I hate how in most arcs Luffy is in some sort of stalling state for all the episodes until near the end of the climax. It’s getting annoying now.
Jul 29, 2023 10:02 AM

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Oars vs Straw Hats round 2!!!
Sep 7, 2023 9:37 AM

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Lola turns as to be a really good natured character . Hopefully she will marry him
Sep 11, 2023 11:58 PM

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Lola being annoying as usual. Absalom finally gets taken out by Nami.. with her weapon that magically appeared out of nowhere. It was good to see that perverted creep get electrocuted either way. What is it with Thriller Bark Villains? Between Hogback and Absalom they have some messed up ideas in regards to women. Seriously vile the pair of them.

Of course Oars having Luffy's personality, he can't recognise Ussop and Sogeking as being the same person. lol. The highlight of the episode was certainly the Straw Hats confronting Oars at the end. LFG!!
Jan 17, 2024 12:41 AM

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I wonder what Lola looked like when she was a human.

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
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