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Sep 29, 2011 5:30 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Himari is dead again,
but i'm less worried about her...


it was not the sarin gas attack.
but there's almost no doubt that was adapted from the fact.

5/5 10/10
Sep 29, 2011 8:45 PM
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I'm glued to the screen every episode. That scene with Himari and Kamba was crazy and kind of hot lol.
Sep 29, 2011 8:56 PM
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Himari can't stay dead that's pretty much a given. Poor Threetie disappeared as she died. We need to know more about this organisation their parents were a part of.
Sep 29, 2011 9:05 PM
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oh man those kanba nips
idk what to feel at this point

but no okay in all seriousness: i cried. :[[
Sep 29, 2011 9:14 PM
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This is just a guess so here we go....

the pengindrum that they been looking for all this time was some type of item that was going to keep the other himari alive and was only using "Kamba's soul" as a temporary pengindrum. now that they found out that Ringo does not have it. the "other Himari's" power starts to give out and no longer has the power to keep Himari alive. When Kamba tried to willing give her more power she was already to far gone to take anymore.

and now we have Mr.Sanetoshi showing up with a way to bring them both back from death. Afterall, i he needs Himari alive for her "fated love one"

Ps. I think Sanetoshi is really the "God of fate" and is not really a good or bad person. He is just watching and making sure everything goes the way fate play's it.
Sep 29, 2011 9:17 PM
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Holy shit.
Sep 29, 2011 9:24 PM
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Nooo man Himari is pushing up daisies once again. However, I have no doubt that Himari will beat up anytime from now hopefully. Since I have a feeling Sanetoshi would be the one to revive with his bunny companions but with a risky price I'm assuming according to the story Shouma was telling.

So it's confirmed that it was an explosion that was caused by their parent's organization which makes me curious of why they would such an action? What benefits do they receive from this organization? so curious.

I feel so slow haha I think I've finally figured out what the penguindrum was for which is key for the Takakura family to deviate away from their unfortunate fate unless any of you guys feel the same way.

So now we know what Himari took from Kanba in the first episode was part of his life to rejuvenate Himari's. And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?
Sep 29, 2011 9:26 PM
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I hope she doesn't die ! >.<

God, I ♥ this show ! <3
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Sep 29, 2011 9:39 PM
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More questions yet so little answers. :/

Lemonysunshine said:
So now we know what Himari took from Kanba in the first episode was part of his life to rejuvenate Himari's. And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?

I don't remember seeing that. Where was this o_O? And yes, stripping is necessary for fan service lol.
Sep 29, 2011 9:43 PM

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Oh god this show is perfect.
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I think QB is involved somewhere in this episode. :3

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Lemonysunshine said:
So now we know what Himari took from Kanba in the first episode was part of his life to rejuvenate Himari's. And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?


Exactly what I was thinking! Was it really necessary for her to strip DX

So the Takakura father is working for Penguin Force, who's behind the incident. However, in the flashbacks we've seen before, his jacket had the Kiga symbol on it. Did he defect or something? In Himari's flashback (ep 9), it seemed that she was originally supposed to be Penguin Force, but got changed to PinGroup.

Trying to make sense of Shouma's story. Did their mother die, and their father revive her in some forbidden way, and now Himari's paying the price with her life? Or am I totally off with the story's analogy??

Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

And in the preview, it looks like they got the diary back...
Sep 29, 2011 9:52 PM

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"Destination of Fate" reminds me of End of the World from Utena.

And Kanba was fabulous in this episode. So were the black bunnies. <3


I'm sort of confused with the Mary story. Could someone explain that?

Also, in the beginning is it Kanba or Sanetoshi talking about fate? I figured it was Sanetoshi since he was shown in the scene.
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Day2Dream said:
More questions yet so little answers. :/

Lemonysunshine said:
So now we know what Himari took from Kanba in the first episode was part of his life to rejuvenate Himari's. And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?

I don't remember seeing that. Where was this o_O? And yes, stripping is necessary for fan service lol.


Oh well if you're asking about what happened in the first episode, it was when Kanba and Shouma got into their first Seizon Senryaku alternate dimension and at the end it transitioned into silhouette Himari taking something red out of Kanba which we now know is what fuels Himari's life to some extent.
Sep 29, 2011 10:17 PM

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Go get the penguinDrum! It was so sad when Himari died again and the 3rd penguin disapeared. But she can't stay dead.
Sep 29, 2011 10:35 PM

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You know thos goosebumps you get when something really bad is about to happen. I got them at the start of this episode. Lol it was freaky as fuck.
This episode...god this episode was beautiful. But my emotions are fucked right now.
I am so confused as well.

I don't think Himari is going to die again...
But damn. I am still worried.
Sep 29, 2011 10:36 PM

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I'm just going to say it now: I think that Yuri is Momoka.
Sep 29, 2011 10:58 PM

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I'm just going to say it now: I think that Yuri is Momoka.

I was thinking the same damn thing(last episode)! I thought I was the only one. It just makes a lot of sense.

Amazing episode. This show just gets more and more epic as it goes along. We've reached the 1/2 way point & I can't WAIT to see what's in store.

I don't wanna wait a week!!!! :/
Sep 29, 2011 11:02 PM

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So sad...
Sep 29, 2011 11:17 PM

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MapleRose said:
Lemonysunshine said:
So now we know what Himari took from Kanba in the first episode was part of his life to rejuvenate Himari's. And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?



Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

And in the preview, it looks like they got the diary back...


No...No...Its not the diary... Its a...book that Kamba would read... On the cover it says エロス ...It an erotic book...

And I also noticed that too! I was thinking "How come he didn't say 'THEY'RE BOYS'"....
So I guess one of them is a Tomato in the Mirror...? O__O
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MapleRose said:

Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

And in the preview, it looks like they got the diary back...

Keeping that in mind, you can draw some pretty interesting conclusions from this line in episode 1.
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Sep 30, 2011 12:09 AM

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Wow wasnt expecting that...ready for next ep!!!!
Sep 30, 2011 12:16 AM

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I swear I saw two Kenzans. What is it implying?
Anyway, I ran out of praises for this.
Sep 30, 2011 12:31 AM

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OK Penguindrum, you've earned a 10. I will cease to speculate...I'm just along for the ride now...

Freakin' fantastic!
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It's safe to assume that the goddess in the Mary and her Lambs story refers to Sanetoshi. The part in the hospital at the beginning of the episode kind of supports that. The father stole something forbidden or Sanetoshi struck some kind of devilish deal with him and unbeknownst to the father the price was Himari. Sanetoshi's black two rabbits remind me of the two white rabbits on the moon legend who make mochi. I also remember in ep 5 that the father wore a jacket that sported the Kiga emblem and here before that attack he was affiliated with the Penguin Force, whch shows he had switched jobs/alleiances after the attack.

Tabuki's unacceptance of Momoka's death kind of foreshadowed that he's also a player in the race to obtain the Penguindrum, it could be to resurrect Momoka. With the Takakura twins, Masako and Tabuki doing their utmost to keep the people that they love alive/bring them back from the dead, I wonder what's Sanetoshi's purpose with the Penguindrum which is supposedly Momoka's diary.
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THIS IS ALL RINGO AND SHOUMA'S FAULT!! They spent so much time goofing around princess of the crystal ran out of energy WOW I really hate Ringo right about now. She better help get that shit back.

I think princess of the crystal symphasizes with kanba and knows Himari wouldn't want Kanba to sacrifce himself.

Kanba x princess of the crystal T-T


As if on que the troll commeth. Unless your going to help himari GTFO before Kanba beats you to death with his scorpion soul.

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I'm glued to the screen every episode. That scene with Himari and Kamba was crazy and kind of hot lol.

It was very hot.
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HOLY WATGAFALFHSFSHITTTTTTT!!!!! I've just been mindblown. This just gets better and better, lol. I cried when penguin 3 died.

And was it necessary for Himari to strip? Honestly! My little brother watches this!
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Halfway through the series, and it's getting more and more awesome. ^^

Ahmadinejad said:
MapleRose said:

Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

And in the preview, it looks like they got the diary back...

Keeping that in mind, you can draw some pretty interesting conclusions from this line in episode 1.


Oh damn. My brain says that the other "boy" that the father mentioned may be one of the two.
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Ahmadinejad said:
MapleRose said:

Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

And in the preview, it looks like they got the diary back...

Keeping that in mind, you can draw some pretty interesting conclusions from this line in episode 1.


Interesting...
Sep 30, 2011 3:45 AM

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YURI = MOMOKA

very, very insteresting suggestion....
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And why there were 2 fathers at one instance? Anybody noticed that ??
Sep 30, 2011 4:15 AM

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Btw, the symbol on Sanetoshi's apple changed... anybody have an idea what it is? I've been trying to figure it out since forever x_x

It looks like an ampoule to me.

Anyway, this episode... I don't really have much to say that isn't just the usual 'brilliant, can't wait for next week'
Was anyone else a little creeped out when the penguins were just standing still with their backs to the audience? It's such a contrast to their usual actions that I was half expecting them to turn around and suddenly be completely different or something xP
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And I also noticed that too! I was thinking "How come he didn't say 'THEY'RE BOYS'"....
So I guess one of them is a Tomato in the Mirror...? O__O


If it's Kanba, I'm not going to feel half as dirty as I do right now shipping him with Himari, because THIS SCENE --->

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*iz ded*
Sep 30, 2011 5:31 AM

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ZOMG NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....ok enough with the exessive U's this episode was just purely awesome. I dare say this is creeping up to near Steins;Gate level though not quiet there yet. Im very happy with this anime so far.
Himari plz come back i dont wanna see u die QQ. And also am I the only one that kinda feels like punching the pink haired guy in the face >.> I know he hasnt done anything yet to really deserve it but damn I get the urge to punch him. Oh well cant wait till next episode.
Sep 30, 2011 5:34 AM

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Really great episode! So sad and bitter, I'm a sucker for tragedies. (That doesn't mean I wouldn't want Himari to wake up again, though) Also, there's more questions again but I'm really content since they don't explain too much and plot is still slowly revealing itself. Can't wait to see what happens next.
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Another thing I noticed, when the father got the call from the hospital about the birth, he said it's a boy, meaning, there's only one baby, not twins. Hmm...

I'm wondering this too.
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this gotta be one of the best episodes XD

It was amazing*.*

Kamba and Princess of Crystal is pure WIN! that scene was definitely so hot *nosebleeds*

So the hypothesis we reached regarding this episode and all the comments i read are:
- Momoka might be Masako? (so who is Mario and why is she with him?).
- Tabuki has something to do with the Penguindrum?(and the hell we always see Tabuki associated with a crow).
- Sanetoshi is the "god" of destiny? (so "Mary" is the siblings dad?)
- Shouma might be adopted?

Man, so many questions... every episode we never get answers T_T

And damn, ill miss...penguin number 3!
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I'm curious how Tabuki got those scars on his right hand and what's the bird in the cage is supposed to mean...Anyway, even though Himari's death sxene was sad I expect her to be resurrected again though there will be probably a twist to it.
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Interesting episode. Don't quite get the Mary story. I figured that the three lambs are Kanba, Shouma and Himari. Who's Mary supposed to be though - like, who does she represent.

And looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed the "it's a boy" thing.

Though - here's what I think. A bit after the scene with the man on the phone, there were two men who got out of a van and nodded to each other. They both kind of look like older versions of Kanba and Shouma. So I'm guessing that those two are brothers maybe? I'm thinking one of those men was the one on the phone. So maybe - one of them died in the blast and adopted the others son? Which would make Kanba and Shouma cousins instead of brothers.
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The "it's a boy" line doesn't mean they aren't twins. It's possible the father got a call before one of them was born. Twins can be born a good length of time apart in some cases.
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HOLY WATGAFALFHSFSHITTTTTTT!!!!! I've just been mindblown. This just gets better and better, lol. I cried when penguin 3 died.

And was it necessary for Himari to strip? Honestly! My little brother watches this!


Not sure how old your little brother is but here is a quick list of questionable things that have already happened before this episode:

1) Main character dying, traumatic ER scenes
2) Lusting after sister, implied kiss between siblings
3) Penguins looking up girls skirts
4) Ringo stalking to the point of living under the persons house
5) Woman with laser-sighted slingshot shooting people in the head
6) Semi-occult style frog face-humping session
7) Threat of torture for person strapped to table in basement of hospital
8) Ringo stripping and trying to RAPE Tabuki
9) [more I can't remember now, but I'm sure others can]

.....but you're concerned about him seeing some anime skin where everything is covered?
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So for Survival Strategy you have to be naked? ok....................
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I see. So the subway setting HAS a meaning, and a very big one at that. There were some fantastic developments in this episode, the direction is ever so clever, and this climax ! This time, it really feels like Himari is dead, or more specifically, there would be no point in making her die a second time if it wasn't definitive. Fantastic episode.

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And geez is it really necessary that duo persona Himari to strip herself in the process of obtaining part of Kanba's life source?


It may not be necessary, but it sure was appreciated. :B I loved that scene.

I'm a bit saddened by the fact that when something with Kanba/Himari finally did happen, she had to die immediately. T_T And that he wasn't "good enough" to save her. Though...did Himari actually say that about him, or did Kanba just think he wasn't good enough? Because if it's just Kanba saying "why couldn't I be good enough to save her?" it's possible that "not being good enough" isn't the reason that the princess didn't take his life force.
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IceBubbleTea said:
HOLY WATGAFALFHSFSHITTTTTTT!!!!! I've just been mindblown. This just gets better and better, lol. I cried when penguin 3 died.

And was it necessary for Himari to strip? Honestly! My little brother watches this!


Not sure how old your little brother is but here is a quick list of questionable things that have already happened before this episode:

1) Main character dying, traumatic ER scenes
2) Lusting after sister, implied kiss between siblings
3) Penguins looking up girls skirts
4) Ringo stalking to the point of living under the persons house
5) Woman with laser-sighted slingshot shooting people in the head
6) Semi-occult style frog face-humping session
7) Threat of torture for person strapped to table in basement of hospital
8) Ringo stripping and trying to RAPE Tabuki
9) [more I can't remember now, but I'm sure others can]

.....but you're concerned about him seeing some anime skin where everything is covered?


Nice rebuttals and examples on IceBubbleTea's points! Seeing skin when compared to those scenes isn't narly as bad. And to help strengthen you point, I will add examples from recent episodes to your list:

Episode 9) Himari accidentally causing a mirror to break on her mother in an implied violent scene, and as a long shot the "abstract children's boiler"
Episode 10) Penguin Number 2 sticking a butt monitor up a nurses butt, Natsume forcefully kissing Kanba, more implied "wincest" between Kanba and Himari. XD
Episode 11) Semi-occult style frog face humping session part II, poisoning of drink for rape of Tabuki pt.II

Well, hope I wasn't being obnoxious and was able to add to the discussion! (=
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Mary is the father, the three little lambs are Kamba, shoma, himari. The apple tree that withered is either the mother or another thing of importance that hasnt been mentioned.
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Jazzalyn said:

A bit after the scene with the man on the phone, there were two men who got out of a van and nodded to each other. They both kind of look like older versions of Kanba and Shouma. So I'm guessing that those two are brothers maybe? I'm thinking one of those men was the one on the phone. So maybe - one of them died in the blast and adopted the others son? Which would make Kanba and Shouma cousins instead of brothers.


These two looked EXACTLY the same, as identical twins.

So probably Tabuki-dad had a twin or something??
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Wow naked but only wearing kneesocks... sexy. :P And the music was fantastic.
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Packing so much win in 23min... HOW DO DEY DO DAT?
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THIS EPISODE...THE BIGGEST TURNING POINT MIDWAY THROUGH THE SERIES...UNBELIEVABLE!

I did NOT expect the parents to be the perpetrators. I did NOT expect the phone call to Kanba about the fated death to be that sudden. The scene between Kanba and Himari was so touching, I was sad AND mind blown from all this. The story with Mary and the three little lambs was incredibly compelling!

I couldn't keep my eyes off my screen the entire time. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!
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Orulyon said:
- Momoka might be Yuri? (so who is Mario and why is she with him?).
you mistook Masako for Yuri? Mario is Masako's brother and there's no connection between him and Yuri yet.



this is what Shoma says to Kanba. so we can assume that shoma is adopted and this is what i think, too. Ikuhara wouldn't give up on incest if it would kill him lol
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- Momoka might be Yuri? (so who is Mario and why is she with him?).
you mistook Masako for Yuri? Mario is Masako's brother and there's no connection between him and Yuri yet.


Yes he mixed some things up.

I would be more tempted to say that Momoka might be Yuri. Momoka's diary is fate and everything that happened in the book happened to Yuri.
The way she entered her apartment even though Tabuki wanted to do Ringo due to the drug suggest that she has been concious of Ringo's plan since the start
I saw their talk more like Yuri wanting Ringo to live her life and stop trying to be Momoka, a warning from a big sister to a little sister to stop following her in her shadow and instead walk alongside her.

There's a lot of unanswered question yet there is hint everywhere.
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