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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Rubinsky ended up buying Yang some time but the question of Reuental's loyalty would have had to be addressed eventually. Problems will arise if the distrust spreads across the ranks, especially if Mittermeyer takes sides against his best friend. Schenkopp will never win the father of the year award but there's still room for Karin and him to come to terms. Poplan actually said something good for a change in trying to encourage her. Julian needs to sort things out between them. Cazzelnu might not approve though :P |
 ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| I wonder why does Julian minds so much about Katerose hating him.... Other than that, interesting political opinions from Yang and his subordinates... On the other hand, nothing surprising about the Earth Cult's scheme and Phezzan.... |
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| Reuenthal has me worried. The story has been hinting at his wavering loyalty recently and I wonder what he'll do. This recent news coupled with Rubinsky may buy Yang enough time to think things through. Speaking of difficult things, it doesn't look like Katerose and Schenkopp will be approaching any sort of a parent/daughter relationship any time soon given that exchange. Will Julian have anything to do with bringing them together now that Poplan tried his best? Hmm..... |
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| Very good episode. Another great talk about democracy vs autocracy with Yang and Julian and seeing Katerose finally facing her father was great too. By the way, is it just me or does she resemble Rubinsky's mistress? Anyway, great episode and the ending seems very promising. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| at last Katerose faced her father :),i expected more though(domestic violence is the key)...kidding good episode,and i'm really happy that i get closer to the "famous" episode 82 :p 5/5 |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| Am I the only one who doesn't give a ==== about Julian and his girlfriend? Why is Rubinsky still alive? That guy really annoys me. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| I like the redheaded bastard child of the Rosenritter. |
| Oskar von Reuenthal...I think your time in the sun is finally at hand. Karin's reunion with Schenkopp, and the conversation with Poplan that followed, were well-scripted. She's another one of the many supporting characters that could stand on their own as main characters if the script allowed it. Yang said: He's not necessarily perfect in his character, but he's the most brilliant existence of the past few centuries of history. To destroy that with my own hand...I couldn't help but feel scared by it. At that time, I may have avoided responsibility with the governmental order as an excuse. And for that, I may have been loyal both to the government and to myself. But, for instance, for the soldiers who died in the war, that could be characterized as an act of unforgivable betrayal. Most of Yang's conversation with Julian and Frederica was par for the course; a typical political science lecture from Yang the historian. But this admission surprised me. Yang's lack of ambition has been evident over the course of the series, but ever since the surrender of the FPA, he's sounded outright conflicted and, at times, borderline hypocritical. But what could he possibly have done to reconcile these conflicting thoughts within his own belief system? If he had killed Reinhard at Vermilion instead, he'd be just as conflicted. |
| Doubting Reuenthal now is stupid. I mean while he did have the thought of taking over, he never followed through, even given the perfect chance (during the battle of Vermillion), so it should be rather obvious that Reuenthal is at this point rather loyal to the Kaiser. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: seeing Katerose finally facing her father was great too. By the way, is it just me or does she resemble Rubinsky's mistress? She definitely does resemble Dominique, I was thinking the same thing myself. Seeing Rubinsky's mistress in the next episode only reaffirms my opinion that she is a younger variant of Dominique. In my opinion they are both the best looking females in the show, although I do love Frederica's purity, sweetness, and loyalty, as well as Mariendorf for similar reasons. Jessica Edwards early on was very pretty and likable as well. |
wakka9ca said: I wonder why does Julian minds so much about Katerose hating him.... ...The reason is about as subtle as a club round the head. |
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Confucius said: Am I the only one who doesn't give a ==== about Julian and his girlfriend? Why is Rubinsky still alive? That guy really annoys me. I don't give a dam about it as well :D |
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Oshii said: Neither do I - the majority of the characters are pretty dull or unlikeable to me. Go back to your Steins Gate,Code Geass or whatever is your favorites then,no is forcing you to watch it.You're only doing a disservice to yourself by sitting trough something you dislike. |
| So the Reuental plot begins! |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| I liked that the red-head girl and her dad solved their problems and how the other red-head guy helped her get over it. |
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| Something big is going to get down soon! Let's see what's next. |
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| Interesting ending with Reuental. Based Schenkopp should be father of the year lol |
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| A fulfillment of the foreshadowed ulterior motive of Reuental? Interesting |
| Rubinsky's still plotting as ever haha. Reuenthal is probably getting set up because I doubt at this point he'll try to betray Reinhard. |
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| Revental?! Is the turn to change this to the Rubinsky style!!! i hate this guy!!! kekeke |
| The thing I feared the most damn it. |
| My man Reuental, what could he possibly be doing? I seriously hope Julian doesn't end up with Karin. |
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| Viva Yang Wen-li! |
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| Looks like Rubinsky's final act will be "launched" I agree with Yang's opinion Autocracy only works when there's a "talented" leader like Reinhard I pity Yang, he's probably at the very terrifying part.. Killing your enemy that can make world better or let him live but you'll suffer in the process No point of return either way Looks like Reuntal is finally taking an action after the narrator hinting it for a long time |
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| Another great talk from Yang about autocracy. And that cliffhanger... I was a little dissapointed with this third season, but these last five chapters were fantastic. |
| Karin is growing on me as a character. And ooohh, is Reuenthal making a move? |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Well, at least they clarified that not all Jews are evil Zionists, lol. |
| Well, fuck Schenkopp, apparently. I used to be quite fond of him, but it's like they're trying to make him unlikable. Hope this trend doesn't go on for long. Poplan, on the other hand, was pretty good in this episode. Nice to see him talk about something substantial for once, though his typical nonchalant observations occasionally have a (very) hidden depth to them. Seeing his carelessly playful words get him in trouble with Boris was also pretty funny, and I chuckled when Yang broke up their quarrel like an exasperated parent. I absolutely loved the dialogue between Yang, Julian and Frederica. It was a treat how they discussed pretty much exactly what had been on my mind after the last episode (which I wrote a bit about in the last thread). The right direction for Yang isn't as obvious as it once was, and it was interesting to witness even the greatest champion of democracy himself lapse and utter, "Democracy is nothing but a faded bronze idol." It was particularly great how this process of thinking things through out loud and sort of arguing with himself resulted in Yang reaffirming his beliefs with way more conviction than we'd ever seen from his usual lukewarm self. Lackluster defenses won't do anymore. The ending had me gasping. Can't wait to see what Reuental's up to. |
| no yang smh u unamerican af 🙄🙄 evri1 kno da rite wae 2 spred democrappy iz 2 destroi a cuntry cuz @ least den dey wil b fre!11!!!1 ok wudafuq reuenthal doin doe 😳 in da beginning of da show i thought oberstein wuz way more likely 2 try 2 overthrow reinhard |
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| yang has the political hot takes of a 10 year old |
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Confucius said: Am I the only one who doesn't give a ==== about Julian and his girlfriend? Why is Rubinsky still alive? That guy really annoys me. I really like Rubinsky, although I agree who cares about Julian and his girlfriend. |
| the more yang announcing his "democracy ideology", the more he contradict himself. the meaning of soldier = cannot be ruler, in other means that he's fighting for democracy that doesn't exist. democracy = government the people choose, but where are those people? el facil? where he can make more democracy? to free people and make them choose democracy, isn't so democracy isn't it? so how you can make a nation democracy without the will of the people. but if there's no such people, as people now would prefer autocracy of good ruler, the definition of democracy isn't required. in other words - yang cannot make democracy. he cannot be ruler because he's soldier. and the reason he fights the empire is not in the name of democracy nation, but in some democracy ideal. sorry but i failed to believe in yang at this part. he's good character with good political philosophy and strong ideals. but he just chained by his own "democracy ideas". if he wouldn't call himself "soldier" it would be better resolved - he can make a nation and group of people convinced the idea of democracy is good, and then make them make their own government. but since he's "soldier" he's not allowing himself to have any political power. in other words, he's fighting for something he cannot make himself. lol katarose and shcenkopp conversation was more tense that i thought it will be lol. poplan sure does know how to make things. i waited when rubinsky will make his move again. to be honest, the amount of names LOGTH make me remember is ridiculous and funny at the same time. just showing how much this show isn't relying on cheap plot device, but both plot development and character driven story as well. true masterpiece lol. |
| I completely forgot Rubinsky existed tbh. I wonder what the Terrarists will do now. And nooooo, Reuental's edgy pro-gamer phase has finally reached the light of day... |
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HeirofZor said: Well, at least they clarified that not all Jews are evil Zionists, lol. Thanks Kanye, oh wait |
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| Pretty chill and quiet before the storm episode, can't believe Rubinsky is still somewhat relevant and is pulling some sort of strings, he really is affecting the clash between Empire and Alliiance once more. Julian still caring this much about Karin is interesting and really shows his character growing in different areas, one uplifting thing is that Schenkopp actually understands his mistakes and also Poplan being kinda good advice giver during this episode is uplifting moment too I suppose. |
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