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May 27, 2008 7:07 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I honestly thought Hildegard was a man when I first looked at her. As the episode went on, I must say I grew more impressed by her. She's very sharp, noting the major weaknesses of Braunschweig-Littenheim alliance and choosing not to side with them. She knows exactly what she wants and will get it as she's shown in her dealings with Reinhard. And lastly, she's got good communicating/negotiating skill. She was able to convince her father leading to him making her the heir in charge of the family name, and she was able to convince Reinhard that she'll be a loyal ally for him. That's one woman I definitely want to see more of in future episodes, especially if they keep her character just as headstrong.

High Admiral Willibald Joachim von Merkatz doesn't look like he'll have his full heart in the fight against Reinhard. Even without the threats against his daughter by Otto he wasn't up for it. Predicting his downfall by saying his goodbyes after leaving Otto's mansion isn't a sure sign of victory either. It will be a pointless civil war, but against 25 million men it will probably end up being very bloody all the same.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
 
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Jun 11, 2008 5:45 AM

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Ferner is an uh oh.
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Aug 5, 2009 7:52 PM

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I'm glad we have such a bold female character in the show now. She certainly tries her damnedest to get what she wants and fortunately, it paid off twice in getting her father to side with her and convincing Reinhard to take her family under his protection.

I wish the man that Reinhard caught and released stayed with him instead of that other man. He certainly seems fishy.

Also, Braunschweig doesn't deserve that golden ship. Just, no.
 
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You guys will excuse me but, I wanted to punch Reinhard's face when he told Annerose to keep sleeping while theres a Coup d'état going on... and exactly in front of his house.
Seriously...

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Mikiyo said:
You guys will excuse me but, I wanted to punch Reinhard's face when he told Annerose to keep sleeping while theres a Coup d'état going on... and exactly in front of his house.
Seriously...


That small platoon of assassins? What else could she do but go back to sleep? I'm pretty sure she can't contribute to the battle in any way. And that military force around their mansion would have wiped them out if they advanced anywhere near it.

While the civil war is just a bad idea overall. Reinhard doesn't seem upset by what's going on. I guess when you've seen this coming for so long you have no choice but to go with the flow. I'm happy there is a ambitious, calculating woman in this show, too. Adds I nice new dimension to the show. I'm tired of seeing corrupt, pompous @$$holes prance about trying to obtain or grab more power. The women should get to do it as well.
 
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DonKangolJones said:
Mikiyo said:
You guys will excuse me but, I wanted to punch Reinhard's face when he told Annerose to keep sleeping while theres a Coup d'état going on... and exactly in front of his house.
Seriously...


That small platoon of assassins? What else could she do but go back to sleep?
Dude, it's a Coup d'état, they weren't training, besides could you go back to sleep while theres a crossfire going on and exactly in front of your house?

Be reasonable.

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the empire...divided? oh no...wait i don't like them xD

except for oberstein,he's badass :D

4/5
Sayonara,papa!


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Nov 16, 2010 11:40 PM

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Oberstein is so emotionless.

There is so much plot in this Anime, it's amazing.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
Mar 14, 2011 7:45 PM

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yayy Reinhard finally gets to do one of those ridiculous laughs that he was obviously going to do eventually.

his sister seems to be one of those women who everyone loves despite her being useless. I am guessing the only interesting thing about her will be her inevitable tragic demise and how it affects the dudes.

Hildegard is cool.

There are way too many power-happy old men in this empire. They should all be sent to clean toilets for a while and learn some humility, but I'm sure seeing them get blown to pieces will be nice.
 
Mar 20, 2011 1:49 PM
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Shit just got real.

^THIS lol
This anime got better as I expected ;)
 
Aug 1, 2011 7:14 PM

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Tyestor said:
Shit just got real.

Pretty much this

I am liking Hildegard's character as well
 
Aug 1, 2011 9:16 PM
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yayy Reinhard finally gets to do one of those ridiculous laughs that he was obviously going to do eventually


Haha...

Who else was a little creeped out by the way Oberstein and his new man looked at each other? Also, what was the significance of the golden ship? Was it just that the military wouldn't shoot at supposed commercial vessels? I can't believe they're going to go through this huge civil war in the midst of their war against the Alliance. It's good for them that they just wiped out 20 million from the FPA, but they're getting spread a little thin.
 
Aug 26, 2011 8:27 PM
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Hildegard is great. One of the few interesting and highly intelligent females characters.

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Who else was a little creeped out by the way Oberstein and his new man looked at each other? Also, what was the significance of the golden ship? Was it just that the military wouldn't shoot at supposed commercial vessels?
Yeah Oberstein was eyeing him like "You my bitch." All those nobles and superior officers are always pushing Oberstein around, and mocking him behind his back. Now one of the nobles' officers jumped ship. oh how the tables are turning

The golden ship belonged to Prince Braunswhatever. He's supercorrupt so I guess he wasted government money on gold-plated dreadnoughts.
 
Oct 12, 2011 1:04 PM

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Some serious stuff's going down soon. A war within the Empire, who didn't see this coming?
 
Dec 13, 2011 7:08 PM

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Gold Ships seems like they would be erm....good for target practice.
 
Apr 14, 2012 8:24 PM

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So Reinhard becomes the Secretary of War, Supreme Command HQ Secretary General, and Space Fleet Commander all at once under the title "Imperial Fleet High Commander." The consolidation of positions of power in fiction is never a good sign of things to come.

And then this exchange with Oberstein:

Reinhard: "I haven't seen such a farce lately."
Oberstein: "If the ending is not a happy one, it can't be called a farce, can it?"

Shit's going down.
 
Sep 12, 2013 8:16 AM

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It said that "this would be the largest civil war the empire has ever seen" ... But that isn't true at all. Isn't the whole thing with the Empire and the Allied forces a Giant, drawn out, civil war? I guess it is more like a rebellion than a civil war, but same thing, no?

Anyways interesting seeing Reinhard become pretty much the leader of the entire fleet through this.
 
Sep 14, 2013 9:38 PM

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It said that "this would be the largest civil war the empire has ever seen" ... But that isn't true at all. Isn't the whole thing with the Empire and the Allied forces a Giant, drawn out, civil war? I guess it is more like a rebellion than a civil war, but same thing, no?


The Alliance-Imperial War is not considered as a civil war because the Galactic Empire never controlled any Alliance territory before (except for a few frontier systems) and that the Empire only laid a claim to having sovereignty over the Alliance. Keep an eye for episode 40, which will explain in greater detail the history of the war.
 
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Oberstein is still a very shady character to me. I can't find myself trusting him, especially with that eye contact he had with the man who requested to become Reinhard's servant. Just shady.

I love the women in this story. Especially considering the fact that this was made in the 80s- 90s. I would like to see more characters like Hildegard, and Frederica Greenhill get a bit more of the spotlight too.
 
Aug 5, 2014 10:39 PM

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Pirating_Ninja said:
It said that "this would be the largest civil war the empire has ever seen" ... But that isn't true at all. Isn't the whole thing with the Empire and the Allied forces a Giant, drawn out, civil war?

Not so. They're two separate nations. It would be like America going to war with Great Britain (although since Britain is a shell of its former self, we all know what the outcome would be.)
 
Oct 30, 2014 4:37 PM

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Hildegard seems like a good match for Reinhard, wonder if they'll hook up later in the series.
 
Feb 4, 2015 4:22 PM

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Another nice episode, looking forward to see what the next episode will bring us!
 
Feb 7, 2015 5:10 PM

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Damn! Reindhart is already basically the top guy in the military. There is no one to oppose him because everyone that was left was his enemy and he has made them out as enemies of the empire so they don't have power too! This is awesome. Reindhart FTW!
 
May 12, 2015 10:04 PM

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A lot happened this episode, I wish I was better with names. Hard to follow
 
May 13, 2015 1:58 PM

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Watched a sub where it had a TN about how rebel fleet was the same name used for the alliance. Was that really needed? XD

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
May 25, 2015 5:27 AM

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Reinhard is a fucking boss lmao, he is already a supreme commander at such a young age. I expect shit to go down soon by looks of it.
 
Jun 22, 2015 7:16 PM

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A surprisingly large amount of stuff happened. Reinhard sure is ambitious. The new characters introduce seem interesting enough
 
Jul 9, 2015 2:39 AM

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oh boy this is getting interesting
 
Aug 12, 2015 12:31 AM

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Hilda is cute and smart, yays :3
And lol @ 'Rebel Fleet' xD
 
Dec 10, 2015 9:25 PM

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Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed like the stare between Oberstein and Ferner was about Oberstein not trusting Ferner one bit and seeing through his mask. Everyone here is doubting Oberstein instead.
 
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I have to say I'm a little weary of Alliance episodes being mirrored so closely with Empire episodes and vice versa. We went back and forth on the issue of political corruption and now we're doing it with treason.

This thread seems to like her but Hildegarde seems almost psychotic to me. Even Reinhard calls her grim. "Interesting times" indeed.
 
May 30, 2016 5:16 PM

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Hildegard is one feisty lady...I like her already.

Rebel Fleet? I see what you did there Reinhard lol.
 
Jul 23, 2016 7:18 PM

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This almost went by too quickly, I could watch more of this.

Got a feeling we've seen Hilda before but can't remember where? Just gave myself a massive spoiler by googling her...

>Braunschweig's admonishing his commanders for not having total confidence in success, then immediately asks how the escape plan's going lol
 
Jul 23, 2016 7:36 PM

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Blackouting said:
Got a feeling we've seen Hilda before but can't remember where? Just gave myself a massive spoiler by googling her...


You probably remembered her during her first appearance in episode 5, after Kircheis successfully quashed the Castrop Rebellion and rescued her father, Count Franz von Mariendorf.
 
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MagisterArcanum said:
Blackouting said:
Got a feeling we've seen Hilda before but can't remember where? Just gave myself a massive spoiler by googling her...


You probably remembered her during her first appearance in episode 5, after Kircheis successfully quashed the Castrop Rebellion and rescued her father, Count Franz von Mariendorf.


thanks, I thought it was something like that but only really recall Kircheis in orbit and the people of the court stabbing their leader.
 
Aug 1, 2016 5:22 PM
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I see Reinhard has a splendid naming sense.
 
Oct 18, 2016 5:15 PM

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Reinhard and Lelouch are very similar.
What makes LOTGH better i guess is that there is a better antagonist, and much more depth.
Love both shows anyway.

Great Episode.
 
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So many things happened I don't know what to start with, Oberstein got another underling that fits in his category,it's sad that Braushvig wasn't killed coward son of a bitch, he got angry at his own subordinates for not believing in victory yet he was arranging an escape plan, I gotta say I really loved that Reinhard forgiven that guy.
 
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Wow the nobles' plan crumpled so quickly. Reinhard is on top of his game.
 
Oct 8, 2018 6:42 PM
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Best episode so far. There aren't a lot of women in this show, but for the most part their pretty good. This makes the second person who has just come up to Reinhard, and flatly said screw the people in charge I'm siding with you, without even trying give themselves plausible deniability.

I like how Reinhard just accepted the guy turning his offer down. Also finally an evil laugh that makes sense.
 
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