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| Well the theories were correct. New fusion form looked cool. What's Lulu upto? |
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| dear god so the theory that smith is bravern is right there is some time loop going on burn bravern is cool and lulu is gonna ride superbia eh  |
| This show continues to both subvert and exceed my expectations with each episode, and this episode is perhaps the best thus far. It not only excels in the visual department with the continuation of the fight from the last episode but it reassured me that everything is daijoubu with SMITH BEING BRAVERN!!! Also that quote "To grasp an invisible future, you need nothing more than invincible bravery" is an incredibly powerful message. |
| I'm the sonny boy (￣y▽,￣)╭ |
| dear god. this is a masterpiece |
  NYANPASU  5700XT |
| I WAS SO SURPRISED BY THAT TWIST AND AT THE SAME TIME I CRIED. To think that Smith-kun was Bravern-san the whole time. |
Zorosuke_Mar 8, 3:37 AM
| Oppai check! 111 cm: Hancock 110 cm: Zoro 100 cm: Robin |
| So Bravern is actually Lewis! Not too much of a suprise for me, since I already thought it might be the case and a time & space robot showing up made it even more evident. However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time? Besides that... Did Lulu realize Bravern is Smith? I believe Isami didn't, but I'm not sure about her. She seems to have some kind of plan though... I have no idea what's going to happen next at this point xD Finally, I guess Lewis X Isami is very much an implied / semi-canon ship. They triumphed over the Deathdrivers with the power of love! This is great! But then again... One of them is a robot now... I really want a perfect happy end for the two of them! Not some bittersweet stuff, just happy! |
| Interesting. I did not really believe the early theories others had. But I did not pay attention to the dialogue in the first episode. (Thought it was Isami that wanted to be a hero.) After the previous episode (when they showed that again) - it was pretty clear, with Smith. I just wonder about the motivation and how this all works logically. They will have to introduce the time-loop thing. (With logic holes unless you have a different timeline.) Here he only turned into Bravern because ... he was already Bravern. (If Bravern had not appeared they might just have killed everyone early including Smith.) Wondering if the female robot that was so fixated on Smith is Lulu+Superbia maybe actually. (If we have people traveling time then it doesn't just need to be one.) Easiest would be if Smith just had an accident (together with the parents) or suicide attemt (after parents died and he wanted to be a hero but felt useless) ... and was in coma dreaming everthing. :D (With all the other people being normal persons he knew in real life.) I think another anime did a similar thing. (Where I did not like the ending. Here I'd like it if it was that way.) With Smith training at military that cheap/normal mech (I think they call them TitanStrider) appeared behind him when walking. Maybe actually in the "normal" world they do not appear and he fantasized/dreams those as well. |
| I have mixed feelings, I'm glad smith is back but it's sad he's bravern now but also that is kinda cool i think this brings him closer to his friend but i'm sad he had to die for it. |
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Reply to Bisalissy
So Bravern is actually Lewis! Not too much of a suprise for me, since I already thought it might be the case and a time & space robot showing up made it even more evident.
However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time?
Besides that... Did Lulu realize Bravern is Smith? I believe Isami didn't, but I'm not sure about her. She seems to have some kind of plan though... I have no idea what's going to happen next at this point xD
Finally, I guess Lewis X Isami is very much an implied / semi-canon ship. They triumphed over the Deathdrivers with the power of love! This is great!
But then again... One of them is a robot now... I really want a perfect happy end for the two of them! Not some bittersweet stuff, just happy!
However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time?
Besides that... Did Lulu realize Bravern is Smith? I believe Isami didn't, but I'm not sure about her. She seems to have some kind of plan though... I have no idea what's going to happen next at this point xD
Finally, I guess Lewis X Isami is very much an implied / semi-canon ship. They triumphed over the Deathdrivers with the power of love! This is great!
But then again... One of them is a robot now... I really want a perfect happy end for the two of them! Not some bittersweet stuff, just happy!
 MAL will say they are just very good platonic friends. |
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| Poorly executed twist imo, would have been more effective for the audience as well as Isami to believe Smith is dead rather than just replaying scenes from the first episode. I'm also afraid the show has climaxed too early, the twist could've been saved for the finale and we do still have 3 episodes left after all. The new fusion and all the fancy attacks were cool though. |
| So we got the standard mid-season upgrade. |
| I feel like I'm watching history in the making. This is the second coming of Samurai Flamenco. |
| Freaking Bravern added lyrics so Isami could sing along. This show is so good. |
| Based on the discussion, I was in the minority that didn't see that coming. Was pleasantly surprised and it really tied some of the plot treads together. |
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Reply to Bisalissy
So Bravern is actually Lewis! Not too much of a suprise for me, since I already thought it might be the case and a time & space robot showing up made it even more evident.
However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time?
Besides that... Did Lulu realize Bravern is Smith? I believe Isami didn't, but I'm not sure about her. She seems to have some kind of plan though... I have no idea what's going to happen next at this point xD
Finally, I guess Lewis X Isami is very much an implied / semi-canon ship. They triumphed over the Deathdrivers with the power of love! This is great!
But then again... One of them is a robot now... I really want a perfect happy end for the two of them! Not some bittersweet stuff, just happy!
However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time?
Besides that... Did Lulu realize Bravern is Smith? I believe Isami didn't, but I'm not sure about her. She seems to have some kind of plan though... I have no idea what's going to happen next at this point xD
Finally, I guess Lewis X Isami is very much an implied / semi-canon ship. They triumphed over the Deathdrivers with the power of love! This is great!
But then again... One of them is a robot now... I really want a perfect happy end for the two of them! Not some bittersweet stuff, just happy!
| @Bisalissy Bisalissy said: However, I'm still a bit confused on what exactly is going on... I was expecting to have everything reset to Hawaii, like in Summertime Render or Edens Zero S2. Because the beginning of the show clearly wasn't the first loop. And during the first loop, Bravern should not have been there - so how did Lewis even reincarnate the first time? It probably just means that this show's universe operates on closed time loop theory. Meaning that everything is predestined and that there was no other way it played out. Also means there is no free will, but we probably don't need to think that deep about it. |
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| WTH Bravern is Smith???!???!!!!!! So Smith died, merged with Cunus and went back in time to become Bravern because he had UNFINISHED Business. Good heavens his backstory is all kinds of tragic.
LOVED It. That whole Gattai bit even. I'm laughing and crying at the same time. What a great episode. |
Stormy_77Mar 9, 8:29 PM
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| i had a feeling Lewis and Bravern are one and the same. Kinda bittersweet what happened to him. I wonder when he'll reveal his true identity to Inami. |
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it's fun to backtrack to the earlier episodes knowing what the twist is. tons of bravern antics that looked like the goofy robot doing goofy things start to make sense when you know that bravern always knows where smith is, and that he knows smith's not going to be in real danger until episode 8. |
garkon_ickyMar 11, 12:55 AM
| fgsfds |
| It is kind of Bravern = Smith+Knuth after all; the former has the memories and heroism and the latter being how Bravern time travelled and became a deathdrive-like robot. A time-travel mecha series like Buddy Complex. |
 Novels I have read/am reading pending approval: since November 10 2022 |
| It was obvious xD the loading scene was very gay haha |
| Smith sacrificing his life for Isami and Bravern, it has to the biggest dent on Isami's morale. For the young kid who was brought up without parents who died from an early age, he always wanted to be a hero, piloting his own Titanostrider, even if he was not amused and surprised that Bravern chose Isami instead. Even then, both Isami and Smith shared the same exact ambitions, and Smith becoming Burn Bravern...is not a surprise at all (given the gay-ish context of the show), and that everything has been a time loop of sorts. Now, to face off against the other Deathdrives, both Vanitas and Pessimism are giving both of them enough trouble, not to mention Lulu's advocacy. And the culmination of them all: the title drop of Isami being Bang Brave and Smith being Bang Bravern being able to defeat both Deathdrives, impressing Superbia in the process. But Lulu wanting to pilot Superbia, what's her intention? If this was the ending, then this climax is PERFECT. Sadly, it wasn't... |
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| What a plot twist! Also Lulu was giving the spoiler for a long time because she always called Bravern of Smith. XD |
| WHAT THE FUCK How can anything top this!? |
| Yup the foreshadowing was there all along, Smith was indeed reincarnated as Braven due to funi shenanigans with horni robot. I'm so sad that my prediction of Lulu being the final boss seems like it's gonna come true :( |
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