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Feb 10, 2014 6:03 AM

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Grimmer is a cool character, I like him verryyyy muchu.

Who ever that woman is, respect to her. Atleast she is taking out the trash!
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Feb 17, 2014 2:24 PM

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Grimmer is a tough dude. That finger torture was a bit tough to watch.
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Mar 28, 2014 7:59 PM

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Napalmbrain said:
I'm wondering who that woman is as well. She looked distinctly like Nina...

I thought it was Nina. Hmm...

Grimmer's a pretty cool guy. It was really hard to see him get tortured like that.
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May 23, 2014 1:31 PM

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ughh that finger clipping
i cringed x.x Though the higurashi torture scene was much more brutal.

May 29, 2014 3:28 AM

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THAT denailing. Goddamn it.
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May 29, 2014 5:22 AM

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Knew the Fat cop was a baddie ask soon as he started prying into Petrov's last words.

Grimmer is truly magnificent. I thought it was really a bluff when he was telling the story about the cartoon but he really beat to death two people with his bare fists. I want to thank the mysterious gunslinger girl for saving Grimmer but still dislike her as she killed a seemingly repenting Petrov.

I think Grimmer may be one of the orphans or at least knows more than he lets on because he scoffed at the fat cop calling the 511 Kinderheim orphans an elite group.
Jul 25, 2014 3:14 PM

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Good grief that nail-cutting scene was nearly unbearable. I'm shocked Monster went so far as to show a torture scene. O.o
Oct 21, 2014 8:25 PM

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Always-Hungry said:
That was a horrible torture but at least he wont need a pedicure for a while. Who is this mysterious woman? And who killed the other 2 guys?
After watching this episode i can definitely say that Grimmer is a good person.

Grimmer has a dual personality(Magnificent Steiner)... He beat the other two men to death
Dec 19, 2014 6:23 PM

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To think I was planning on trimming my nails after watching this episode. No thanks! x.x

It was doubly cringe-inducing for me because of that. Yeesh.

Grimmer continues to be more interesting. It does seem like his story about the Magnificent Steiner described himself.

I wonder why the woman killed Petrov.
Dec 24, 2014 10:56 AM

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Looked very much like Nina, but the cold and calculated murders just didn't fit her style. Guess we'll see.
Jan 7, 2015 4:58 AM

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That woman doesn't fuck around
Feb 3, 2015 2:35 AM

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Grimmer's a badass for enduring all that torture.

To be honest, I didn't find the torture scene to be that gruesome. I've seen much worse in anime.

I wonder if that really was Nina? Her face looked a lot like her though I can't say for sure. Maybe it was Nina's mother? Only time will tell I guess.

I wonder who killed the remaining two people? It couldn't have possibly been Grimmer though the talk about the "Magnificent Steiner" makes me believe otherwise.

Awesome episode. I'm loving all these Grimmer episodes we've been having.

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Feb 17, 2015 12:14 PM

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Respect for Grimmer.

I wen't through hard time just by watching him being tortured :(
Mar 31, 2015 9:40 AM

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When the fingernail cutting torture scene was playing I had a Higurashi flashback lool, cringe :(

Good thing those scums got murdered.
Apr 14, 2015 12:32 PM

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Man, Grimmer is one tough cookie. But that nail scene had me cringing, even more so since I really like Grimmer.
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Apr 28, 2015 12:53 PM

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That nail scene was hard to watch. I'm not easily disturbed by this sort of stuff - in fact, I love gory stories -, but I ended up even pausing the video at one point.
Aug 1, 2015 11:39 AM
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Aug 15, 2015 4:57 PM

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Well now, i'm never going to cut my fingernails short again lol. Grimmer is awesome and he probably gave the key to the "leader" of the orphans.

Aug 31, 2015 10:01 PM

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Holy shit this was a brutal episode! So much cringing during that torture scene!

So it really was Anna???
Sep 3, 2015 7:20 PM

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I definitely don't wanna see Anna killing just like that. Still betting that mysterious figure is her mother.

The torture scene was well done. As someone who's constantly messing with his nails, it was excruciating to watch Grimmer go through that stuff, and it seems he has a dual personality and ended up beating those guys to death.
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Sep 17, 2015 2:45 AM

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Grimmer should be made the MC of the show, the guy is brilliant. When he was cornered and the gunshots went off i thought Tenma showed up to save him. Still not sure of the identity if the woman, since they said young then it's probably not Johan's mother unless she gave birth at 12, i'm thinking along the lines of a 3rd child, Johan and Nina's sister.

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Sep 25, 2015 1:05 AM
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That nail cutting torture sent shivers down my spine. I was so close to skipping ahead.
Dec 15, 2015 6:30 AM

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Algirdyz said:
Johan's mother is also a monster. Just think about it. Killing 2 armed men without a gun. Not even flinching before she shoots. Killing innocent maid. All of this can only be done by a monster.

Grimmer was the one who killed those 2 armed men. Not the woman. It was clearly shown at the end of the episode.
Jan 18, 2016 4:17 AM

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Ew, the nail clipping scene hurt me as well.
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Jan 27, 2016 7:57 PM

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The nail cutting scene kept making me cringe. Tough guy for being able to go through that torture.
Jun 1, 2016 2:56 PM

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Grimmer being tortured was hard to watch.
So in the end he killed two of the guys himself after "transforming".
Jun 4, 2016 9:36 PM

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oof that was painful to watch, the nail torture gets me every time

that can't be Nina so it either has to be cross-dressing Johan or another family member. i can already imagine Johan putting on makeup and a wig and practicing walking in high heels while no one is looking

looks like Grimmer is another interesting character, wonder why he has the other side to him, maybe because he was a victim of 511? but he's pretty old, does that mean that 511 has been going on for a while?
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Jul 15, 2016 12:21 PM

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Oh wow, that was so intense, Anna is going berserk :(
Excellent Episode.
Jul 27, 2016 8:04 PM

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had to skip the nail torture scene......

can't stand torture scenes orz

Was that nina or a different woman?
Dec 5, 2016 2:12 PM

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DenpaOnna said:
I had a flashback from Higurashi there, did anyone else? :D

that was exactly what i was thinking when he was chopping his nails off. it looks like he also cut off the tips of his fingers too? though the higurashi scene was most intense imo bcus shions family forced her to mutilate herself
vilmarbf said:
I jumped off my seat when I saw the taxi driver, he looked like roberto.

i'm glad that wasn't just me, i was gonna be MAD if they killed off a character and resurrected him so soon afterwards (though i have a feeling he's still alive)
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Jan 31, 2017 11:19 AM
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i could see NINA in her but no way
Jun 14, 2017 12:12 PM

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I'm really squeamish to torturing, that nail ripping was freaking disturbing I was averting my eyes from looking at the TV. (º_•) Grimmer is athogh SOB

On a side note- Curiosity is killing the cat in me... who is that woman...?
Jun 18, 2017 4:14 AM

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As I expected from police they never failed to fail at their own job.. Oh wait xD

Ouchh, not the nails.. My only weakness
It's Higurashi all over again
Poor Grimmer :(

I like how anime "villains" always explaining things they want to do
I mean gee thanks! xD

1v3 and she won, what a joke :P
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Jun 21, 2017 5:12 AM

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Grimmer ain't the guy he's pretending to be. He's way too much tough. He killed the remaining two men with his bare hands. Their bodies were terrible mess. I think grimmer is a guy with some serious mental issues. And it was apparent that He gave keys to the orphan Boy. I'm having doubts about Grimmer.
Jul 20, 2017 3:31 PM

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I really hope Grimmer doesn't die.

How the hell did he kill the other 2 when he just got his face beat in.
Sep 28, 2017 8:39 PM
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Man this episode sure was a nail biter

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Nov 23, 2017 6:30 AM

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What the hell is wrong with that cringy Czech? That's not what Czech sounds like at al xDxDxD It sounds more like Russian lolol
Dec 29, 2017 7:38 AM
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Monster is the most overrated series ever,clearly a the silence of the lambs rip-off.
Jan 25, 2018 1:02 PM

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Kind of a boring episode, though the nail part made me cringe.

Feb 2, 2018 10:12 PM

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Grimmer's an interesting character. Well done torture scene. They really nailed it.
Apr 23, 2018 12:28 PM

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DenpaOnna said:
I had a flashback from Higurashi there, did anyone else? :D

Haven't actually gotten to that part myself yet, but from what I saw on youtube, yeah, definitely.
May 17, 2018 11:39 PM

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The mysterious girl was kinda hot. Dunno who she is anyways.

Let's hope we see the Mysterious Steiner in action soon.

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Aug 21, 2018 11:31 AM
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Damn that torture part was very disturbing to me.

Grimmer is a refreshing character to the cast of Monster. For me like a second Tenma :D

And I really can't tell if that woman is Nina or her mother. But if it is her mother, she looks very young.

Overall great Episode!

Feb 18, 2019 1:19 PM

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I guess that really was Anna... Grimmer resisted for so long, and endured all the torture, damn... Good episode.
Feb 25, 2019 8:49 PM

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Damn that torture tho
Jun 2, 2019 8:43 AM
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Grimmer > Magnificient Steiner. The woman has to be Nina, judging by her physical traits, but I don't believe she went through such a change, killing people without second thoughts.
Sep 4, 2019 2:21 PM

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One of the best - if not the best - episodes so far, for me. I was cringing throughout the entire torture scene, and I can't remember a torture scene ever getting such a reaction out of me. I'm glad Grimmer will stick around, he's a very interesting "watch out for when the smiling ones stop smiling" type character.

I hope the woman is Anna herself and not her mother, because it'd be very lazy character design to have her mother be young and have the same haircut as her daughter.
Nov 9, 2019 7:53 PM

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There were many Johan's worshipper out there.

The Magic Steiner, huh? Well I got a pretty good guess here, since it's told that the monster can possess a human's body, I would guess the monster came inside Grimmer and beat those guys.

BLaCkGuN69 said:
I jumped off my seat when I saw the taxi driver, he looked like roberto.

Exactly, since Tenma still not sure whether Roberto is dead or alive.
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Nov 19, 2019 5:20 AM

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"Even though you'll be separated, you'll still all be under the same sky" ...<3 <3 I love you Grimmer <3

The torture scene felt difficult to watch, brutal.

Who is the lady?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 26, 2019 5:37 AM

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More evidence Nina is channeling her inner Count of Monte Cristo. There are a lot of moving pieces in this story, a lot of seemingly unrelated mini-arcs and plot threads I expect are all connected. Everyone here must be in involved in Johan and Nina's childhood, probably the orphanage, somehow...

It appears increasingly so that Johan and Nina are mirroring the fairytale of the monsters.

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