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| Official world premiere ahead of schedule. Be warned that this episode is where Ice Queendom deviates from the source material as a "canon adjacent" series. The Nightmare Grimm comes, and it's truly a nightmare for those affected by the curse. But what's a definite no-no is Weiss not being part of the team's dynamics, and Ozpin tries to help Ruby understand, while Weiss gets a pep talk from Peter Port. But it's the rose-thorn-like scar on Weiss and Jaune (he has it worse) has that gets the curiosity, and that requires special treatment from the Nightmare Hunter Shion Zaiden to use his Semblance power to send people into their dream to save Jaune's conscience and evict the Nightmare Grimm that surrounds him. Hah, seeing the stowaway Sun Wukong in action, he's a cunning one to escape free, that Team RWBY met Penny Polendina instead. The tension between Weiss and Blake continues like the plague, and their differences are too massive in the respect of the humans and Faunus to ever reach a resolution, much less understanding one another. The antagonist group of White Fang made their first appearances, and this will not be the last we'll see of them. I hope that Weiss and Blake can get along despite their race being different races. Void_Chords feat. L's OP "Beyond Selves" already sounds like a banger thanks to Ryo Takahashi, a perfect fit for an esteemed American icon with the iconic J-Pop flare. As a 3-episode premiere, this is also the perfect 3-episode rule to see if Ice Queendom is worth your time, as a long-time RWBY fan or someone new into the series. This is no doubt a strong start to the Japan-made RWBY that is nothing but surprises. |
KANLen09Jun 24, 2022 5:10 AM
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| is this gonna be 3 eps every week? |
Shenhe said: is this gonna be 3 eps every week? Nope. The next new episode will come 24.07.2022. |
| Well this was interesting so I will continue to watch when the next episode is comes |
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| Weiss personality feels borderline multiple personality disorder. So, Penny is a Terminator-like character. That post-battle cut was strange. At this point, everybody should get just in their underwear, and have a full body examination. |
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| Watched all.3 episodes just now and iI really liked it, its like a blend of anime cliche and western storytelling cliche in anime so it feels refreshing. Although it was really confusing about that final fight cut. |
| I kinda expected more from Shaft in terms of animation. Looks good but lacks smoothness and choreography in some fights, which the original RWBY had and been known for. I think it's an ok adaptation, I'm more curious about the new character they introduced. |
| The pacing too fast...I still miss the original music...and the budget allocation is really obvious lol..noticeable drop in quality outside fighting scenes..other than that, it seems promising. I'll still give it a watch. The dream grim is completely original but it seems interesting...pacing was to fast though for these 3 episodes. |
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| Not sure if there was meant to be more there honestly, it felt over and done with so quick like what??? Was I missing something??? |
KapengBarako said: The pacing too fast...I still miss the original music...and the budget allocation is really obvious lol..noticeable drop in quality outside fighting scenes..other than that, it seems promising. I'll still give it a watch. The dream grim is completely original but it seems interesting...pacing was to fast though for these 3 episodes. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed the extremely terrible pacing issues. I think they nailed the voices, animations, and character design, but the pacing is all over the place. Not enough time to explain anything it seems, from too much exposition to none at all. Or why a scene that is unrelated to what just happened is suddenly shoved into the face of the audience. Honestly feels like they just wanted to do a "test" of sorts and see how the fandom would react to this. |
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
| Observations and comparisons with OG RWBY. - Wait, why/how Weiss changed her school uniform with her regular cloths between scenes? - One missing link which felt really bad. They could make smoother transition from the scene after the match and Pyrrha's explanation. - And here the story departs sharply from the original. - Wow, new kind of Grimm. I guess it's the piece of resistance of the show. - Jaune sees himself as rabbit? - ...aaand we are back to the original main story? - Lighting inconsistency between scenes. Bad cuts too. - Now I guess we are ready for a major departure in the story...but will we get some random scenes from original too? Ellenwitch said: it felt over and done with so quick like what? In the original there is a big battle at the docks: Blake, Sun and Penny are flexing they abilities in it. Golden_Darknezz said: but the pacing is all over the place. Not enough time to explain anything it seems IMO the pacing is not that bad (except in the last episode) and they got across all the important information. |
alshuJun 26, 2022 7:08 AM
| Are we gonna be able to see Blake's mom in the season? |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Are we gonna be able to see Blake's mom in the season? Askin the real questions |
Scenes animated by Hiroto Nagata were amazing, but that's all. The rest was alright, for example: Team JNPR's fight at Beacon Academy Initiation against that scorpion-like Grimm had an average animation and it was very short comparing the original series' fight. Nora's hammer work was way cooler in 2013 serie. |
| I don't want to be that guy because obviously there are reasons to faster pacing but... They met literally 5 minutes ago from our perspective, there wasn't even any indication that this whole thing is not happening within 2 days and then they go say "you guys can do this only because you all are really close friends"... Iirc this was not a scene from OG series too, so why would you add a scene like that to this episode knowing the pacing is what it is... This is not even just fast pacing but in general bad planning imo... |
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after watching all 3 eps all i can say is: |
| To err is human. To purr is feline (c) |
| The Nightmare Grimm is going to be deadly for anybody who's closed off their or has no friends and is isolated from their family. While they have gotten all the important information across, the pacing is quite rushed. Jaune and Pyrrha, Nora and Ren haven't spent enough time to make the scenes with them impactful, like the one where Pyrrha teaches him about Aura. Even when they go to free him from the Grimm, the battle is over a tad bit too quickly. There was an entire action sequence at the port with Roman which was off-screened. Luckily, these were supposed to be recap episodes so hopefully the pacing improves moving forward. The previous episode introduced a new character whose importance is now revealed in this episode, the Nightmare Hunter. I guess this is the main deviation that was talked about. No Cinder unfortunately. |
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| It was definitely rushed... Juane becoming leader of JNPR felt a little more warranted in the OG series as he actually came up with a plan during the last fight, and was trying to become a stronger character, despite being a very nervy and doubtful person. It lacked some of the more humorous and enjoyable moments as well and because some of these moments were rushed or skipped entirely they didn't land as well. Sun and Penny introduced already? Penny's fight scene skipped entirely, Blake revealing herself as a Faunus already... ah I could go on, can't believe how much was skipped or missed out entirely.. So many impactful moments have just been entirely rushed and to be honest, ruined for newcomers. Hopefully now that SHAFT has got the "introduction" out the way, the pacing will be a lot better in future episodes... On a positive note, its nice to see RWBY in 2D and because the earlier volumes of the original didn't have a bigger budget, the animation has been a lot nicer overall. Episode 3 started to introduce some new elements already, which was exciting to see but again fell short because JNPR had barely any time together to feel like an important team moment... SHAFT rushing the first 3 episodes could end up being big mistake as it could push a lot of newcomers away from the show, and irritate many of the older fans.. The pacing seriously needs to be fixed for future episodes. For reference. The end of episode 3 here is the end of the volume 1 of the original which was 134mins. These 3 were 66mins with also about 5-10 mins of new content. Hence why it feels very rushed... |
SwizzeJun 24, 2022 7:24 PM
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| Head's still spinning from that 1-2-3 release, especially with them trying to recap early RWBY at the speed of sound. Preferable to the slow pace of the original series IMO, but I think the characters might have been characterized better to new viewers if they took their time more. All three episodes definitely felt like recaps, and not in a good way. Looks like the jank was adapted into this version too, though RWBY always had a bit of charm from that. I guess we'll see what they have when they get to the "canon-adjacent" parts. I liked a lot of the changes they made so far, so it may be able to make up for this weaker start. |
| Trying out (almost) every anime that airs each season since 2018. |
| I do like the idea of the nightmare Grimm. Seems like a cool way of exploring characters' internal struggles in new ways and revealing new ones. Hopefully later scenes with it will be better than what we got in this episode, however. There was simply not enough time in this episode to properly explore it with all the other stuff they were trying to accomplish here. |
| Trying out (almost) every anime that airs each season since 2018. |
| This adaptation is good they added new story and character. But they removed alot of scene which is a big letdown. And I wish they used the OG character BGM. The first season of OG RWBY is funnier and interesting. I think they rushed this too much. Time to rewatch the OG RWBY. |
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| After watching those episodes Shaft has shown once again that it's better to wait for Blu-ray releases to see the final product (especially after most of their veteran animators left) |
| I have to agree with a post above that, without enough narrative between scenes, Weiss is like a Multiple Personality Disorder character. |
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| So good. Shaft did a good job, the animation are so smooth and detailed. Can't wait for the next episode! Hopefully, Weiss personality will change XD |
  "Curiosity is like a cockroach. It likes to stumble upon secrets that are supposed to stay hidden." ― Hitagi Senjougahara |
| This is literally better than the original in every feasible way just from the first three episodes. Actual interaction between characters, actual personalities, actual world building and lore foundation right off the bat...yeah, this is what RWBY needed. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| This last third really pushed through a lot of content so I hope it won't feel that big of a letdown in the latter episode, and things seem to be established and set up. |
"......If I told you that I was a real witch, would you believe it?"  |
AnonymousCode said: I have to agree with a post above that, without enough narrative between scenes, Weiss is like a Multiple Personality Disorder character. I think they were going with that on purpose for this actually especially considering the nightmare grimm taking over. |
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YueNaDe said: These 3 episodes were like "previously on RWBY", very fast paced, cut scenes, jump to conclusion. I kinda advise people to watch the original to make the teammate thing more digestable. I've already watched the original years ago, so the scenes just refreshed my memories and I think these 3 episodes designed in the way that assuming people already watched the original, at least the first volume. yup, this anime is 1hr 6 mins long (and it also invcludes the Red(not you) White Black Yellow trailers ) and the original one is (acording to this random video i found) 1hr 53mins so in a nutshell, this is fanservice, and i like my fanservice  |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
| I'm not totally sure how to approach this, not having watched more than a clip here or there of the original CGI RWBY series. The initial season being a series of mostly ~5 minute shorts certainly didn't help. So we come to this, which appears to be a alternate universe retelling aimed at fans, and I don't qualify as such. I will say that the animation certainly got a lot of effort and genuinely looks quite good. The fights are fast paced, well choreographed, music fits, not bogged down by pointless exposition or blathering weird technojargan from the sidelines. It could definitely be better though. Every fight is quite one-sided, just the girls beating up random monster/robots/dudes. Take your Garo/Rage of Bahamut/Tokyo Majin/Horizon fights, for example, and there's a lot more back and forth, not to mention banter, even if the raw animation on display wasn't the same caliber. These were more like the recent Symphogear season fights. Visually impressive, but lacking in any tension or weight. Not to mention a little weirdness in the scale. Did this dude seriously put on his best opera clothing and park an aircraft downtown to rob the local bodega? It's everything else in this first episode that I'm far more uncertain about, and I'm not sure how much of that goes to me not being an existing RWBY fan. It's basically vignettes for three of the titular four characters where they all announce that they want to go to school, somebody gasps some random nonsense jargon word as they watch them beat up -random noun-, and then… they smile about getting to go to school. It's again spread quite thin and there's both no story nor plot to speak of, nor any character depth greater than "I want to do my best." Which isn't to say that I want them to stop and explain the whole world setting. Gods no. It's Generic RPG World where it calles its magicite/fonons/unobtanium dust. I'm confident I can keep up. But I want more of a narrative than "girls want to Do Their Best, and Doing Their Best means going to school because that's where they can Do Their Best." |
| Pacing is faster than inflation in my country. |
| Mixed feelings on this so far. They jammed packed a lot of episodes in an hour and at the same time are introducing a new character, new plot point, and focusing more on Weiss's perspective. Or at least they're trying to focus more on Weiss perspective the writing feels all over the place. Seriously does Penny not care about being see as a robot or what? Also I miss season 1 of RWBY's humor. They removed the bird scene of Weiss and RWBY jumping off the bird, that was one of the funniest scenes in season 1. I like the new idea of a nightmare Grimm, that's a pretty cool and idea and plot device. If the story wants to focus on Weiss they're should have focused more on her from the start. Maybe start at her being mad at not getting the leadership position and continue from there. Right now it feels like a mish-mash of ideas in a poorly written fanfiction. |
| SHAFT MASTERCLASS. Was against watching the original RWBY because I can’t get with western animation/English voice acting, but SHAFT really snapped on this. From the very jump with Weiss and Ruby’s introductions I was blown away and that only continued to get better as the episodes went on. This is such an interesting and unique world to me. Really excited to see where this goes and I hope that SHAFT can keep up the quality. I’m in love with Ruby already omg she’s so hot. |
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| I feel like Episode 3 was cut to fit into the movie format and they will have a full episode when it airs properly. |
Wieczorny said: Pacing is faster than inflation in my country. But didnt beat the inflation of earlier universe /jk |
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| So far so good. As a big fan of the og, this new take seems interesting enough and I look forward to see where they go with it. |
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| So this is RWBY huh. I only know a little about Ruby and Co from their role in Blazblue Cross Tag Battle and didn't see the OG series, so i wasn't quite sure what to expect, but it's been really fun so far. And they sure gathered some really great VAs here, like Hayamin, Miki and Kawasumi. |
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| I just finished all 3 episodes in one go so I'll just post my thoughts in this thread. I think the show so far is a 6.5 for me with a lot of rush pacings especially the start of episode 1 and end of episode 3. I'm sure most RWBY fans would have loved to see the Penny fight entirely than just a quick skip to the end but it is what it is I guess. As long as the show has several good songs and episode 4 onwards are acceptable, that is enough for me. |
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