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Nov 2, 2021 11:05 AM
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To me, it is one of the worst things I have ever seen.

Season 1 that is, season 2 is just bad, which is leagues better than what season 1 is.

I don’t care about the somewhat interesting ideas it presents if Every. Single. Character infuriates me in some way.

They are either incredibly bland, poorly written, poorly implemented, or just unbelievably annoying.

Subaru is all of those things, and we have to spend the entire anime with him.

The writer will basically make Subaru whatever the writer wills because he get “mentally broken,” which is the only way the plot progresses at all.

Anytime he overcame some obstacle it didn’t feel earned in the slightest because I can’t tell if he changed for the better, let alone changed at all.

Also the checkpoint system is never explained at all. What makes a point in time a checkpoint? No one knows

Also it’s so self indulgent with its depiction of death that it throws any idea of subtlety out the window, along with being extremely unpleasant to watch

The visuals are decent, but they are the sprinkles a top this shit sundae of an anime.

Wilhelm is literally the only good character in this anime, which proved to me that Reki Kawahara (lol) can write good characters, and we got that with Echidna in season 2.

Well let’s see what the poll has to say
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Nov 2, 2021 11:08 AM
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I enjoyed it mainly for the interesting world, and some great action. I like seeing antagonists win just like with Umineko so the resets make it extremely interesting to me.
Nov 2, 2021 11:12 AM
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You never even said how the characters are infuriating to you, poorly written, or how they are annoying.
Another pointless thread.

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Nov 2, 2021 11:14 AM
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The story is interesting and time loop is involved, so yes I kind of liked it
Nov 2, 2021 11:15 AM
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I like seeing subaru lose his sanity
Nov 2, 2021 11:15 AM
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It's still the only isekai I would never get tired of watching.
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Nov 2, 2021 11:17 AM
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Best Isekai in my opinion. And has some of the best character writing I've seen in anime.




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Scordolo said:
You never even said how the characters are infuriating to you, poorly written, or how they are annoying.
Another pointless thread.

I don’t have the patience to do that, so I’ll just say Subaru’s “jokes” made me want to jump off a cliff
Nov 2, 2021 11:20 AM
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Re:zero is the worst isekai anime followed by mushoku tensei
Nov 2, 2021 11:27 AM

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Uncivilized said:
Re:zero is the worst isekai anime followed by mushoku tensei

Bruh did you even had the idea that rezero started before mushoku (I am talking about web novel release not anime) lol.
Nov 2, 2021 11:30 AM

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"Is Re:Zero good?"

Mainly for people who are into torture porn.
Nov 2, 2021 11:38 AM

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No. Main character is dumb for the sake of drama, then has random spurts of competence when the plot needs to move forward. All the characters are flat and unlikable, Rem is the most likable character in the cast, but still barely even a character. If it had half decent writing it would still be a generic fantasy JRPG harem isekai, but with an edgy coat of paint. Honestly Re:Zero is proof that anime fans will like anything if you throw gore and angst on screen.
Nov 2, 2021 11:53 AM

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Re Zero is a masterpiece (๑♡⌓♡๑)
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Nov 2, 2021 12:56 PM

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Yes. It's very good. Tho the latest season (S2 P2) felt like a clusterfuck at times and Subaru is a very meh protagonist, still it's a pretty solid show overall. 8/10.
Nov 4, 2021 4:34 AM

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Re:Zero is easily the best japanese fiction. I don't think any other japanese fiction even close to this series level. I'm sorry for people who can't understand.

Uncivilized said:
Re:zero is the worst isekai anime followed by
mushoku tensei

Your favorite anime Neon Genesis Evangelion is inferior to Re:Zero in every way.
"Writing, Characters, World, Lore, Art, Musics, Voice Acting, Story, Foreshadowings, Callbacks, Depth" everything i can write more.

I wish people would look series more objectively instead "Subaru is crying therefore it is bad" lmao.
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Nov 4, 2021 4:36 AM

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I just found the time loop thing incredibly irritating as we always reset back and the plot doesn't move forward, meanwhile there isn't a single likeable or interesting character to me. Story 0, characters 0. I watched about 11 episodes and felt like not a single thing worth of mentioning happened. It's like sitting on a merry-go-round but you can't get off. The scenery might look (kinda) nice but it gets boring fast and then you just want it to end.
We are in the minority tho, most people enjoyed it for some reason.
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Nov 4, 2021 4:46 AM
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Yeah it's pretty good. I'm not the biggest fan of it but I will acknowledge its writing and characters which I believe to be pretty high-tier. While I didn't personally enjoy it that much, you gotta give credit where credit is due. Especially in season 2 where whitefox tried to fit as much story as possible within the run time they were given. They cut off the op and ed in nearly every episode, using them sparingly, and extended the run time per episode to 30 minutes each.

I didn't read the light novels or manga or whatever since again, I'm not that interested in it, but from what we got I'd say it was also very well paced. Might drag a little at times if the dialogue doesn't compel you, and maybe the ending events of the arc that was covered in S2 felt maybe a bit rushed. But really there's not much else for me to nitpick other than simply, I didn't personally enjoy it as much as most others.

My own rating for all S1, S2P1 and S2P2 were 4/10's. "Objectively" speaking though, I'd give them all 9/10's. Maybe even a 10/10 for season 2 part 2.


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I would say Re:Zero is decent but nothing to go crazy about, it's a solid 8/10 anime for me in both seasons but I disliked the slow pace in S2 (part 1) but since I will rate S2 (part 1 & 2) together I will give it an 8/10.

I did got extremely annoyed with Subaru in the middle of S1, Subaru was cringey out of proportions there, also Emilia is kind of boring, she got somewhat better for me in S2 (part 2) but still, she needs more work, she's one of the least interesting characters in the show for me.

To me the best moment in this anime (on both seasons) is the flashback of Wilhelm and Theresia van Astrea, that flashback was beautiful and emotional, it brought tears to my eyes and when something gives me teary eyes then they did an amazing job.
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Are you secretly Regulus? What's with the rant?

It's kinda your loss anyway for not liking it, and waste of time for grieving over entertainment. But still, it would have been all okay if you moved on, because all things are not for everyone to enjoy.

But the fact that you went out of your way to construct a brain-dead thread shows how much this has affected you. All your problems are so personal, unoriginally inspired, artificial and hyperbolist, it just feels like a rookie club football player aggressively criticizing Messi. Sigh. Try better next time. Well you can't return by death, but can return by thread!

Basically Re:Zero discussions section to it's haters:

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Nov 9, 2021 3:54 AM

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It's probably the only very popular isekai that I don't like, so no.
Dec 5, 2021 6:37 AM

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Despite this being meant to congregate Re:Zero haters, it still is voted good. This should be enough of an answer.




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I really didn't enjoy it and had to drop in the 10th episode with the bullshit going around but well people seems to love it in MAL and it is the series MAL loves so much.

My opinion is, it's very bad.
Dec 6, 2021 2:36 PM
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Vexem said:
Re:zero is the worst isekai anime followed by mushoku tensei
What makes you say that?
Dec 8, 2021 6:33 PM
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I have trouble understanding any consequences in the world. It’s proven when he goes back to save Rem that he can kill himself and reverse time, why doesn’t he do that any time anything goes wrong? It makes very little sense to me. The characters infuriate me to the point where I had to stop watching. Nothing makes any sense. Why is the royal selection so loose on restrictions when Subaru is talking out of his mind? Why didn’t Rem kill himself anytime someone close to him died? What are the real consequences to this world? Those were my major questions that were never answered to the point I had to stop watching.
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I have trouble understanding any consequences in the world. It’s proven when he goes back to save Rem that he can kill himself and reverse time, why doesn’t he do that any time anything goes wrong? It makes very little sense to me. The characters infuriate me to the point where I had to stop watching. Nothing makes any sense. Why is the royal selection so loose on restrictions when Subaru is talking out of his mind? Why didn’t Rem kill himself anytime someone close to him died? What are the real consequences to this world? Those were my major questions that were never answered to the point I had to stop watching.
Time to debunk a couple points.

'Why doesn't he kill himself whenever he does something wrong?' - If he kept doing that a: he would be in way too much pain each death, nobody would want that much pain, b: he'd loose his humanity, become desensitised to everything, this would also make others around him start to dislike him. infact, every april fools the author makes a story about what would happen in the story if Subaru did something different, one of these is know as Pride:IF. During the start of the show Subaru swallows his pride and screams for the guards to save him in the alleyway, Rienhard saves him and it leads to Reinhard beating Elsa in the lootouse, in Pride:IF, he doesn't do that, instead he dies over and over (70something times instead of the original 3/4) until he reaches that point, but some different things happen, he gets jealous of Reinhard and then things go more downhill, at the end of Pride:IF Subaru burns down the capital city and gets killed by Emilia for good, he dies a total of ~10,000,000 times overall.

'Why is the royal selection so loose on restrictions when Subaru is talking out of his mind?' - the only reason Subaru was in that room in the first place is because one of the princesses selected thought it would be 'interesting' to bring him in there, nobody stopped him because they thought he was closely affiliated to Emilia, he was dragged out after Emilia said that she had no relation to him.

'Why didn’t Rem kill himself anytime someone close to him died?' - Sorry, I don't understand this... I'll guess tho, I'll guess that you mean 'Why didn't Rem kill Subaru in the final loop in the mansion' - the only reason Rem didn't kill Subaru in the run is because she was surprised that Subaru saved both the kids then her. From then on her opinion on Subaru changed.

'What are the real consequences to this world?' - ??? You could ask that about literally any show and get a similar response. Basically the whole point of the show to begin with was "hey, wouldn't it be cool if a character could like, return to a certain point in time every time they die" (I don't blame you if you don't like the premise)

I can say that there is an extremely high chance that any question you ask about re:zero can either be answered currently or in later the arcs there will be answers for it.
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Don't know everything past s1 just felt pointless to me.
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Re:Zero is the best japanese fiction without competition.

I debunked so many haters arguments over years and
my conclusion only people hate Re:Zero is the people who didn't understand it.
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Scordolo said:
You never even said how the characters are infuriating to you, poorly written, or how they are annoying.
Another pointless thread.


Foolish poster...

They are infuriating because they infuriate, how can you not see the elegant logic in that.

repeat for poorly written and annoying and you have a water tight logical argument.


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Dec 14, 2021 6:19 AM
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i mean kinda i guess
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Cool thread bro, now get fucking ratio'd lol
Dec 19, 2021 8:08 AM

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It's a Masterpiece. But u know what? Masterpieces are neglected my many people, by stating "I don't understand wtf it is"
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Okeanix said:
Re:Zero is the best japanese fiction without competition.

I debunked so many haters arguments over years and
my conclusion only people hate Re:Zero is the people who didn't understand it.
forget about fiction, its facing uphill task just to be a best isekai.
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Re:Zero is the best japanese fiction without competition.

I debunked so many haters arguments over years and
my conclusion only people hate Re:Zero is the people who didn't understand it.
@Okeanix starts off good but eventually derails because the story doesn't have an ending and will wander endlessly.
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@Okeanix starts off good but eventually derails because the story doesn't have an ending and will wander endlessly.
@DEMSpirit Except the fact what you wrote is completely false, and the story never derails until Arc 7, which is Episode 100 of the anime in the future. Yet, even that is very good.

The story is not abandoned or getting milked; it's already planned from start to finish. You get 1 LN volume every 3 months, and the series will end at Arc 12.

So how does it wander endlessly when you know exactly which arc is going to end, and can be sure it will end one day, since the author has never stopped releasing volumes in the last 10 years?
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@DEMSpirit Except the fact what you wrote is completely false, and the story never derails until Arc 7, which is Episode 100 of the anime in the future. Yet, even that is very good.

The story is not abandoned or getting milked; it's already planned from start to finish. You get 1 LN volume every 3 months, and the series will end at Arc 12.

So how does it wander endlessly when you know exactly which arc is going to end, and can be sure it will end one day, since the author has never stopped releasing volumes in the last 10 years?
@Okeanix but re zero never really had a central villain or antagonist as well as final that they built from the beginning. Even in the re zero fandom can't even decide who the main villain was. This hampers foreshadowing and reduces rewatchability. It also over relies on NSFW moments and Subaru suffering and struggles to make change tones for the audience.

Kind of why yugioh gx's story is considered weaker than yugioh. Yugioh had a clear end goal from the beginning. While gx had to change the villain every season.
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@Okeanix but re zero never really had a central villain or antagonist as well as final that they built from the beginning. Even in the re zero fandom can't even decide who the main villain was. This hampers foreshadowing and reduces rewatchability. It also over relies on NSFW moments and Subaru suffering and struggles to make change tones for the audience.

Kind of why yugioh gx's story is considered weaker than yugioh. Yugioh had a clear end goal from the beginning. While gx had to change the villain every season.
@DEMSpirit Re:Zero features main antagonists who often contradict each other, leaving viewers uncertain about the eventual outcome. Currently, potential main villains include Pandora, Satella, and Echidna.

The series doesn't require a single main antagonist throughout its duration, as it diverges from typical shounen tropes.

Furthermore, I disagree with the notion that Re:Zero lacks foreshadowing and rewatch value. In fact, it boasts some of the most intricate foreshadowing and rewatchability among all anime.

Regarding your mention of "NSFW" moments in Re:Zero, I must clarify that there are no such instances in the series
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@DEMSpirit Re:Zero features main antagonists who often contradict each other, leaving viewers uncertain about the eventual outcome. Currently, potential main villains include Pandora, Satella, and Echidna.

The series doesn't require a single main antagonist throughout its duration, as it diverges from typical shounen tropes.

Furthermore, I disagree with the notion that Re:Zero lacks foreshadowing and rewatch value. In fact, it boasts some of the most intricate foreshadowing and rewatchability among all anime.

Regarding your mention of "NSFW" moments in Re:Zero, I must clarify that there are no such instances in the series
@Okeanix you can't exactly have good foreshadowing and rewatch value if there isn't a single end goal in mind. Therefore I heavily disagree that rezero has the most intricate foreshadowing of all anime. Definitely not on aot levels. Won't comment on other shows since they are not yet complete and I would spoil them.

NSFW as overdone violence. https://fandomwire.com/mamoru-oshii-thinks-neon-genesis-evangelion-will-be-forgotten-in-time-sees-it-as-a-commercial-anime-that-wont-survive-ia/

Important to distinguish between commercial anime and artistic anime. Commercial anime often extends themselves for too long, relies on excessive violence, doesn't have an end.

Re zero needs 200 episodes to adapt the story, almost certainly won't happen. That is way too long and pretty much loses its focus.
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It's peak. Very peak imo.
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Re zero is amazing
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This is literally the best written isekai. Character development is insanely good. The world building is amazing. If you were really paying attention, this story makes you question so many things occurring at the same time. A lot is meant to be left obscure. If you hated it that much, rezero just wasn’t for you
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If we are being objective then answer is no.
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For me rezero is just another generic Isekai anime where looser got isekaied to get girl and that is literally what is it. but doing it's job better than others. The character development is meaningless when you need to change the whole world just to cope your weakness. 6/10
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Re:Zero is easily the best japanese fiction. I don't think any other japanese fiction even close to this series level. I'm sorry for people who can't understand.

Uncivilized said:
Re:zero is the worst isekai anime followed by
mushoku tensei

Your favorite anime Neon Genesis Evangelion is inferior to Re:Zero in every way.
"Writing, Characters, World, Lore, Art, Musics, Voice Acting, Story, Foreshadowings, Callbacks, Depth" everything i can write more.

I wish people would look series more objectively instead "Subaru is crying therefore it is bad" lmao.
@Okeanix anime community is pretty much held hostage to re zero and rem best girl to go against re zero is to have the entire anime community lynch you. You pretty much cannot separate re zero with masterpiece.

The date a live fandom is pretty chill and doesn't try to enforce their will but their climax is a masterpiece. Easily best I have seen.
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Re:Zero is the best japanese fiction without competition.

I debunked so many haters arguments over years and
my conclusion only people hate Re:Zero is the people who didn't understand it.
@Okeanix I mean rn it is hard to find a show that has more critical acclaim and compete with re zero. Kny is criticized for its story.

Jjk fell off after shibuya. Konosuba is getting bashed hard for a mediocre season 3 and flop spinoff. Tensura is getting bashed hard after the poorly reviewed movie and lackluster season 3. Overlord is seen as a one trick pony. Date a live requires several rewatches and to watch the final season to see it as a masterpiece.

Re zero so far pretty much did everything right. If I have a favorite show, I do not want it to air in the same season as re zero. More than likely re zero will won and rem best girl
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@Okeanix I mean rn it is hard to find a show that has more critical acclaim and compete with re zero. Kny is criticized for its story.

Jjk fell off after shibuya. Konosuba is getting bashed hard for a mediocre season 3 and flop spinoff. Tensura is getting bashed hard after the poorly reviewed movie and lackluster season 3. Overlord is seen as a one trick pony. Date a live requires several rewatches and to watch the final season to see it as a masterpiece.

Re zero so far pretty much did everything right. If I have a favorite show, I do not want it to air in the same season as re zero. More than likely re zero will won and rem best girl
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Re:Zero's next 100 episodes (by taking source material as example) will be also masterpiece and even better than first two seasons, it never fells off.
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Re:Zero's next 100 episodes (by taking source material as example) will be also masterpiece and even better than first two seasons, it never fells off.
@Okeanix FYI, full light novel adaptations never happen. Someone mentioned how re zero is losing money on ln sales and its new gacha looks doa. It will just get tossed aside like index.

Dal gacha nearly ran as long as danmemo and they were only 1 cours/movie from full adaptation but goodshow's financial trouble caught up.
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@Okeanix FYI, full light novel adaptations never happen. Someone mentioned how re zero is losing money on ln sales and its new gacha looks doa. It will just get tossed aside like index.

Dal gacha nearly ran as long as danmemo and they were only 1 cours/movie from full adaptation but goodshow's financial trouble caught up.
@SpiderMiles3523 LN sales does not affect Anime Production, Re:Zero merchandise sale profit is higher than any top manga.

Re:Zero not have any money issue, upcoming season is 3-Cour (36-39 Eps) first isekai with 3-Cour season.
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@SpiderMiles3523 LN sales does not affect Anime Production, Re:Zero merchandise sale profit is higher than any top manga.

Re:Zero not have any money issue, upcoming season is 3-Cour (36-39 Eps) first isekai with 3-Cour season.
@Okeanix merchandise profit is pure bs. It didn't work for chainsaw man where despite power and makima figures everywhere, they still fell under due to blu ray.

Kurumi tokisaki has as much scales as rem. But spirit pledge revamp failing affected their production.

Anything can go wrong and game over.
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@Okeanix merchandise profit is pure bs. It didn't work for chainsaw man where despite power and makima figures everywhere, they still fell under due to blu ray.

Kurumi tokisaki has as much scales as rem. But spirit pledge revamp failing affected their production.

Anything can go wrong and game over.
@SpiderMiles3523 Shaula merchandise alone can fund Season 4 or people who want to see Rem.

You can't compare CSM to Re:Zero, Re:Zero merchandise sales are much higher than CSM. Characters like Power is nothing compared to Rem.

Also CSM getting movie even after flop, then it will get Second Season.
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