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Oct 18, 2021 9:28 AM
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Inspired by this thread https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1965569&show=0#post9
Since there are plenty nowdays which ones you hate no... dislike most?
Oct 18, 2021 9:29 AM
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Yui from Diabolik Lovers. Then again that's exactly why the show was made.
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Oct 18, 2021 9:34 AM
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This may be a hot take, but I can't stand bland shoujo protags like that of fruits basket fem c.
Oct 18, 2021 9:37 AM
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rohan121 said:
This may be a hot take, but I can't stand bland shoujo protags like that of fruits basket fem c.


I suggest close your dms and profile comments for next 2 days xd
Oct 18, 2021 9:39 AM
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rohan121 said:
This may be a hot take, but I can't stand bland shoujo protags like that of fruits basket fem c.


Skip Beat really broke the trend and i'd love to see mcs like that.

Oct 18, 2021 7:23 PM
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Someone already said it but the average stock shoujo protagonists like in Fruits Basket are insufferable. Moreso than standard LN power fantasy protagonists. Nothing is worse than having someone just let everyone use and walk all over them whilst they don't develop or even stick up for themselves. Why these in particular are so popular is something I'll never know. Maid-sama is similar in a sense as well except Usui is genuinely someone that'd be on an offenders register.
Oct 18, 2021 10:57 PM
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Sieg is the absolute worst for me because he completely stole the spotlight from the cooler necromancer biker dude in Fate/Apocrypha
Oct 18, 2021 11:11 PM
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Any self insert mc tbh. They are the evilest people, who never come clear with who they actually love and never give girls answers to keep them hanging. They never want the girls to move on or fall in love with someone else.

Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth.
Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime.
Oct 18, 2021 11:25 PM
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Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) and Ayanokouji (Classroom of the elite) are objectively the most cringe characters in the history of the whole world and literature, no one can say anything different, if you do you’re factually wrong.
Oct 18, 2021 11:43 PM

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Tendo_GM said:
Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) and Ayanokouji (Classroom of the elite) are objectively the most cringe characters in the history of the whole world and literature, no one can say anything different, if you do you’re factually wrong.


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast
Oct 19, 2021 12:06 AM

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Not sure if Naofumi aka The Shield Hero is supposed to be the self-insert type but I hate this guy with passion.
Also almost every MC who's story screams "This is your power fantasy, right?". Usually the writers have really lame ideas what moments of empowerment should be like.
Oct 19, 2021 12:07 AM

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MCs of Arifureta and Darwins Game (heck, I dont even want to remember their names) are the cringiest self-insert MCs I've ever seen
Oct 19, 2021 12:34 AM

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All of the hentai self insert protags, especially the ones that don't even have a visible face.
Oct 19, 2021 1:11 AM

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AnimeFA78N said:
Tendo_GM said:
Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) and Ayanokouji (Classroom of the elite) are objectively the most cringe characters in the history of the whole world and literature, no one can say anything different, if you do you’re factually wrong.


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time
Oct 19, 2021 1:15 AM
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Self insert MCs are so predictable and annoying.
They make me hit them with a truck
Oct 19, 2021 1:20 AM

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Tendo_GM said:
AnimeFA78N said:


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time

Yeah i am not defending them incase you misunderstood i am just pointing out their weird taste which is why i am saying when it comes their taste they are really weird and very very different from rest of the world
Oct 19, 2021 1:23 AM

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The spineless whimp mc from Love and Lies and the brain-dead masochistic mc from Diabolik Lovers, among others.
Oct 19, 2021 1:45 AM

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Tendo_GM said:
AnimeFA78N said:


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time

It's best selling tho not one of the best lmao .
Oct 19, 2021 1:51 AM
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Pretty much all the protagonists from low-tier isekais make me want to scrape my eyeballs out.
They are practically carbon copies of each other but with slightly different looks. It boggles my mind how unoriginal some creators can be. Isekai can be good but the laziness of some of the authors in the genre is awful.
Oct 19, 2021 1:57 AM

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Lavi_kun said:
Tendo_GM said:
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time

It's best selling tho not one of the best lmao .

Well, close enough, Haruhi Suzumiya is the best selling one with Monogatari right after it, SAO is third which is still really bad for Japan’s image
Oct 19, 2021 2:00 AM

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Tendo_GM said:
Lavi_kun said:

It's best selling tho not one of the best lmao .

Well, close enough, Haruhi Suzumiya is the best selling one with Monogatari right after it, SAO is third which is still really bad for Japan’s image


I think Index series also have Sao in beat in japan
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Tendo_GM said:
Lavi_kun said:

It's best selling tho not one of the best lmao .

Well, close enough, Haruhi Suzumiya is the best selling one with Monogatari right after it, SAO is third which is still really bad for Japan’s image

Oh yeah I totally forgot about them lol .
Oct 19, 2021 2:13 AM

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Overly intelligent MC like Senku from Dr stone. I'd say Senku is the equivalent of Gary Stu which most of the fans seem to ignore completely.
I've seen fans who say they feel smart just by watching the Anime and also say that they have learnt more in Dr stone than they have in 12 years of Schooling. Pretty sure they are the same one's who haven't been to school and are shut-ins.

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Oct 19, 2021 2:43 AM

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i hate cocky bastards
especially the one from 'problem children from another world' or something, i don't really remember

Oct 19, 2021 3:07 AM

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AnimeFA78N said:
Tendo_GM said:

Well, close enough, Haruhi Suzumiya is the best selling one with Monogatari right after it, SAO is third which is still really bad for Japan’s image


I think Index series also have Sao in beat in japan

It’s in 4th place, right after it, but maybe it shifted recently
https://jw-webmagazine.com/best-light-novels/
Oct 19, 2021 5:00 AM
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I love how the person above me said Japan has trash taste while manga, anime and light novel were made especially for Japanese audience. Also why some MAL users are so obsessed with objectivity.
Oct 19, 2021 10:31 PM

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The Kirito archetype of protagonist.
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Oct 20, 2021 8:35 AM

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The MC from Isekai Smartphone, that guy himself is the epitome of a self-insert character
Oct 22, 2021 12:47 AM

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If I can tell they're a self-insert, I already don't like them




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Oct 22, 2021 2:16 AM

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kirito, yikes, just yikes, being overpowered without no development at all, and creates all the death seed to isekai genre trope being more of similar shit is coming and far more worser
Oct 22, 2021 8:59 AM

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The exceedingly annoying or stupid ones.
But even the self-inserts I don't hate are difficult to relate to e.g. Clannad and Haruhi Suzumiya.
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Jul 23, 2022 8:21 AM
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Tendo_GM said:
Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) and Ayanokouji (Classroom of the elite) are objectively the most cringe characters in the history of the whole world and literature, no one can say anything different, if you do you’re factually wrong.


Only anime-onlys tend to greatly dislike Ayanokouji's character, and calling him the most cringe even with his anime portrayal I think is still hyperbole (probably because I dislike the typical screeching shounen MC). I find it uncharitable to say he's one of the worst LN characters too when it's clearly not the case. I'm not urging you to read it, but if you did you would find the appeal.
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The pseudointellectual "literally me" types. Hachiman, Ayanokouji, Oreki, you know it. Also Kaneki-tier edgelords. Docile harem protagonist are also annoying.

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Only anime-onlys tend to greatly dislike Ayanokouji's character, and calling him the most cringe even with his anime portrayal I think is still hyperbole (probably because I dislike the typical screeching shounen MC). I find it uncharitable to say he's one of the worst LN characters too when it's clearly not the case. I'm not urging you to read it, but if you did you would find the appeal.
As a novel reader, he's still awful. Maybe even more obnoxious than in the anime. What is the appeal supposed to be, according to you?

AnimeFA78N said:
Tendo_GM said:
Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) and Ayanokouji (Classroom of the elite) are objectively the most cringe characters in the history of the whole world and literature, no one can say anything different, if you do you’re factually wrong.


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast

Popularity does not prove quality. In fact it makes complete sense that LNs with mostly teenager readers are popular if they have self-insert MC.
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You all need to watch Nami.

Jul 26, 2022 4:42 PM

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Pax_Cruento said:
Sieg is the absolute worst for me because he completely stole the spotlight from the cooler necromancer biker dude in Fate/Apocrypha


Hahhaa, rofl, i love you, thanks for making me laugh my ass of.

I like your style!

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The pseudointellectual "literally me" types.H achiman, Ayanokouji, Oreki, you know it. Also Kaneki-tier edgelords. Docile harem protagonist are also annoying.

zimofafrica said:

Only anime-onlys tend to greatly dislike Ayanokouji's character, and calling him the most cringe even with his anime portrayal I think is still hyperbole (probably because I dislike the typical screeching shounen MC). I find it uncharitable to say he's one of the worst LN characters too when it's clearly not the case. I'm not urging you to read it, but if you did you would find the appeal.
As a novel reader, he's still awful. Maybe even more obnoxious than in the anime. What is the appeal supposed to be, according to you?

AnimeFA78N said:


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast

Popularity does not prove quality. In fact it makes complete sense that LNs with mostly teenager readers are popular if they have self-insert MC.


I guess it's just not to your taste then.
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Kazuya, Rudeus, many cliches Main Charracters.
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Satou drom Death March, else you can find them in Shoujo/Romance mangas.
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self inserts usually don't bother me too much because they're made to be as inoffensive as possible after all. But Naofumi from Shield hero really pisses me off. He's written in such a way as to feed the ego of narcissists with persecution complexes.
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abystoma2 said:
The pseudointellectual "literally me" types.H achiman, Ayanokouji, Oreki, you know it. Also Kaneki-tier edgelords. Docile harem protagonist are also annoying.

zimofafrica said:

Only anime-onlys tend to greatly dislike Ayanokouji's character, and calling him the most cringe even with his anime portrayal I think is still hyperbole (probably because I dislike the typical screeching shounen MC). I find it uncharitable to say he's one of the worst LN characters too when it's clearly not the case. I'm not urging you to read it, but if you did you would find the appeal.
As a novel reader, he's still awful. Maybe even more obnoxious than in the anime. What is the appeal supposed to be, according to you?

AnimeFA78N said:


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast

Popularity does not prove quality. In fact it makes complete sense that LNs with mostly teenager readers are popular if they have self-insert MC.



Bros a whole scoipath, talking about "he literally me" those are just edgy teenagers who tends to idolize character like kouji,johan,light
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Tendo_GM said:
AnimeFA78N said:


And they are somehow two of the most popular non isekai Light novels in japan currently for some reason their taste is really interesting to say atleast
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time



"OMG how dare they like something I deemed as trash"
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The only self-insert character I know is Keyaru, and I fucking love that guy.
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kiyogawa said:
Tendo_GM said:
So?
Japan has proven that their LN taste is trash by making Sword Art Online one of the best selling LNs of all time



"OMG how dare they like something I deemed as trash"

Yup, a completely subjective forum thread with completely subjective comments and completely subjective replies.
What’s your point?
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Tendo_GM said:
kiyogawa said:



"OMG how dare they like something I deemed as trash"

Yup, a completely subjective forum thread with completely subjective comments and completely subjective replies.
What’s your point?



Can't really say japan has "trash taste" because they like something that you deemed as trash.
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kiyogawa said:
Tendo_GM said:

Yup, a completely subjective forum thread with completely subjective comments and completely subjective replies.
What’s your point?



Can't really say japan has "trash taste" because they like something that you deemed as trash.

Yes I can… do you not understand simple sentence constructs? Like the fact that those are my words and my opinions that my fingers wrote down therefore it’s all my views.
Nobody is talking about objectivity or anything, if I say something is bad that because I think it’s bad, if you say something is good that’s because you think it’s good.

If you’re so fucking butthurt please don’t reply anymore since I’m bored from explaining basic rules of human language to you since every sentence seems to go over your head cause they’re too complex for you.
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Tendo_GM said:
kiyogawa said:



Can't really say japan has "trash taste" because they like something that you deemed as trash.

Yes I can… do you not understand simple sentence constructs? Like the fact that those are my words and my opinions that my fingers wrote down therefore it’s all my views.
Nobody is talking about objectivity or anything, if I say something is bad that because I think it’s bad, if you say something is good that’s because you think it’s good.

If you’re so fucking butthurt please don’t reply anymore since I’m bored from explaining basic rules of human language to you since every sentence seems to go over your head cause they’re too complex for you.


You sound like an elitist when you said that, I simply saying there no such thing as bad taste,
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kiyogawa said:
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Yes I can… do you not understand simple sentence constructs? Like the fact that those are my words and my opinions that my fingers wrote down therefore it’s all my views.
Nobody is talking about objectivity or anything, if I say something is bad that because I think it’s bad, if you say something is good that’s because you think it’s good.

If you’re so fucking butthurt please don’t reply anymore since I’m bored from explaining basic rules of human language to you since every sentence seems to go over your head cause they’re too complex for you.


You sound like an elitist when you said that, I simply saying there no such thing as bad taste,

Yes there is… you’re confused about the idea of subjectivity =/= objectivity which is a pretty simple concept.
There is nothing objective on this planet that is accompanied by words “bad” or “good” because those adjectives themselves aren’t objective, “bad” and “good” come from subjective points of view and those words don’t exist outside a human’s perception. There is nothing in the nature or the cosmos that is objectively “bad”, starts dying out galaxies collapsing, planets being consumed by stars, animals eating each other, rivers destroying forests, none of those are objectively “bad” as nature doesn’t have that opinion, nor does it have an opinion of “good”.
Bad and good only exist inside human dialogue and can’t be used as descriptions for objectivity or facts, so everything humans describe as “good” and “bad” is only their perception of it, so the existence of “bad taste” is exclusive to subjective opinions.
So “bad taste” is an existing substance cause it’s the product of human’s mind, so if the mind exist, the term exists cause it describes the mind.
Therefore every conversation containing “bad” is only subjective and cannot be objective.

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