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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The animation kinda looks rubbish but they captured the atmosphere of the series well. Story takes a serious mature tone that deals with sci-fi military warfare. It seems their world's technology is advanced enough to fight against humanity's biggest threats. First episode felt a little fast paced but I think it's done to establish the main premise of the show. The mech design look rather generic though if you ask me. |
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| One of the most anticipated and greatest VNs of all time, Muv-Luv is a force to be reckoned with. This adaptation being taken from the original Muv-Luv Alternative will be strictly broken down by hardcore fans of the VN. As an anime-only, watching Alternative without the knowledge of Muv-Luv as a whole, kinda breaks the immersion that you NEED to understand the entirety of the source material to even get some BASIC context. But other than that, the mecha scenes are good (except for the kinda horrible CG) and that's a major part of the Muv-Luv universe. Looking forward to what the anime adaptation will have in store to service both sides of the story for anime-onlies and majority, those who've played the VN. The animation is seriously a downgrade, more than anything, because if you need 3 studios (Yumeta Company, Graphinica and FLAGSHIP LINE) to adapt a work, something's seriously wrong. |
KANLen09Oct 6, 2021 11:28 AM
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| The show is amazing and i cant wait to watch more, easily the best show this season for me!! |
| I see no issues with visuals and animation here. Nothing bothered me or made it unwatchable in that regard, except for the lack of lip sync when that girl was singing, which is like whatever. As a source reader, my fears remain the same - the pacing of the following episodes when the story actually begins, how they'll deal with pre-MLA content (i.e. Extra and Unlimited), and how these factors will affect the emotional impact of the story. Let's see how they'll approach these issues next week. |
| My first impression of episode 1; Man, this show would have been huge if they have adapted it 10 years ago. Overall, it was a solid episode. The 3D mecha animation looked good, but the 2D animation parts felt a little lazy, but not terrible. Looking forward to episode 2. |
| If anyone enjoyed or liked total eclipse, this will be a decent watch. |
| Oh god who are you people? |
| Why the director wanted to clone Shingeki no Kyojin EP1 instead of going for the VN Intro, but with more detail? It would work the same way for anime-onlies. I didn't like this take. |
Erotaku_ said: If I'm correct (and I know very little about this series), this episode is an anime original prequel story to the main story Yes. No reason to spoiler tag that btw. otakuops7 said: And it's clear they went with a recap just like TE. That's the right way to start or else people would be totally lost. It's not a recap though. Just an episode to contextualize the setting for those unfamiliar with it and draw people in with the action. |
kohakufan2002 said: JanPri said: if this is bad CGI to you you really havent seen bad CGI...Original story with bad CG... Not sure I'd call it decent. How bad do you think the rest can possibly be? On a scale of 1-10? its probably gonna be a 2/10 For me bad CG means that you can clrearly see that the CG object/s are out of place in the scene.   Maybe if it would be entirely CG it wouldn't matter, but to have good CG it has to really blend in well with all other 2D elements. But if you think it's good, I don't want to argue here. |
| is this original? dont remember this from the novels |
| Shit adaptation, but still got chills near the end. Time to continue reading the VN. Also, wtf beta have red blood? Weren't they aliens? Well, nothing new. Muvluv science has always sucked. As for the VN- At sadogashima rn and its finally gotten good. also before I go, I can say- Muvluv Copied Aot. :> |
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| Is everyone here a source reader? Is it even worth to post my opinion as anime-only cause i liked this start, was really intense and showed no remorse, really set the tone for i should expect here. |
| I'll be honest.... not the best anime premiere episode for "THE GREATEST VISUAL NOVEL OF ALL TIME (according to VNDB)". The whole concept of planning for this adaptation was very questionable and while the show tried its best to bring the intensity out with the grim atmosphere of that battle to introduce how fucked the world is with all the BETA that took over and how fucked those creatures actually were too, the whole experience felt very clunky and second-rate to watch. And given how much actual content and exposition there will be once the main story kicks in, I'm not the most optimistic about how all of that in the future will be adapted. Visuals aren't that good too, although it's not like the original VN looked that great either. I'm not a Muv-Luv Alternative VN fan (think that it's fine and nothing more) and it's only been one episode but those MLA diehard VN fans deserve better than this. Everything about this episode just... didn't click. |
animejas said: Pretty much nailed it on the dot. Let's see what animaniaig a.k.a Kane has to say about this, he'd pretty much reject the anime outright.I'll be honest.... not the best anime premiere episode for "THE GREATEST VISUAL NOVEL OF ALL TIME (according to VNDB)". The whole concept of planning for this adaptation was very questionable and while the show tried its best to bring the intensity out with the grim atmosphere of that battle to introduce how fucked the world is with all the BETA that took over and how fucked those creatures actually were too, the whole experience felt very clunky and second-rate to watch. And given how much actual content and exposition there will be once the main story kicks in, I'm not the most optimistic about how all of that in the future will be adapted. Visuals aren't that good too, although it's not like the original VN looked that great either. I'm not a Muv-Luv Alternative VN fan (think that it's fine and nothing more) and it's only been one episode but those MLA diehard VN fans deserve better than this. Everything about this episode just... didn't click. |
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KANLen09 said: Pretty much nailed it on the dot. Let's see what animaniaig a.k.a Kane has to say about this, he'd pretty much reject the anime outright. Yeah I showed him that the episode was online and the reactions he posted on Discord already are.... not glowing with positive reactions to say the least. And I quote, "Worse than a disaster". Not very encouraging for one of the biggest Muv-Luv fans I know. Edit: Posted this before he posted his forum comment here lol. Not surprised about the feelings though, it's just not a good episode at all. I feel your pain to some degree @Animaniaig. |
Smudy said: Is everyone here a source reader? Is it even worth to post my opinion as anime-only cause i liked this start, was really intense and showed no remorse, really set the tone for i should expect here. While I highly recommend reading the source material instead (blast through the official youtube playthrough of Extra and Unlimited for free, then get MLA on steam), I'd say don't worry about what others say and just keep in mind most source readers are probably either skipping this or salty af. What they did here isn't much of an issue imo. It's what they won't do that's getting people salty, because it's kinda like Clannad AS without the first season. |
| Geezus christ, this was the closest I've came to literally throwing up watching a visually crapsack episode of anything in a long while. Everything from the presented premise to the characters to the sound design to the choice of animation was absolutely horrendous. VN adaptations generally have their shortcomings with adapting enough content, but nothing from this one looked even half-decent. |
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| This was not as bad as i expected however this is still an original episode so the actual story starts next week. I'm still keeping my expectations very low. |
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Ich_bin_einBaum said: Looks like this will be 12 eps long according to the official Website One is already anime original... 11 episodes for the entirety of Alternative... I've heard that they won't adapt everything so it might end on a cliffhanger |
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Ich_bin_einBaum said: Looks like this will be 12 eps long according to the official Website One is already anime original... 11 episodes for the entirety of Alternative... No matter how pessimistic you may be, they're definitely not cramming everything in 11 episodes. That would be literally impossible. (People who went to the pre-screening have also said ep 2 isn't exactly rushed as you would expect out of an 11-episode adaptation.) |
Smudy said: Is everyone here a source reader? Is it even worth to post my opinion as anime-only cause i liked this start, was really intense and showed no remorse, really set the tone for i should expect here. After reading this thread I've pretty much decided to refrain from posting in future episode discussions. It seems source material die hards are going to be here every episode complaining about everything under heaven and earth that is wrong with this adaptation. I'm not saying this was great, far from it, but I've seen much worse over the years. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
powerOfNeo107 said: Ich_bin_einBaum said: Can you provide in any sort of confirmation on that? I'd check myself but the site is in japanese.Looks like this will be 12 eps long according to the official Website One is already anime original... 11 episodes for the entirety of Alternative... I'm asking you to do this cuz my expectations for this adaptation, right now, is a 4/10 which will drop to a 0/10 if what you say is true. It's confirmed to be 12 episodes. But the pacing of eps 1-2 doesn't support the claim they'll cram everything in 11 episodes, the length of the vn makes it impossible, and there's an interview where they explicitly mention the likelihood of multiple seasons. Since this is just 12 ep, there's no way in hell it'll be the whole thing. People just are being extremely pessimistic because they haven't gotten over the fact this won't be a god tier adaptation like S;G. |
| So I’m seeing a lot of complaints mainly from VN fans. I’ve never read the VN and probably won’t for the foreseeable future, but I was absolutely blown away by this episode. I only knew a little about Muv-Luv from the people in my anime club who are fans. I didn’t expect it to be this dark. The opening few minutes had an upbeat feel and then I’m seeing heads ripped off and innocents massacred, holy shit man. I enjoyed this episode and think I’ll enjoy the rest of it as well. |
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| Humiliation. Never enjoyed people cruelly beaten up. Let alone if it's done by 3DCG monsters. 3DCG is decent, but the monster design is not. Especially the fortress-class. It looks like a mascot from an egg store I missed Sigrdrifa. Humiliated by those thing won't evoke anything except generic sacrifice and miracle. Speaking of miracle, the boy at the end of the episode maybe is the one who could bring much-needed energy to this series. |
| damn the character animation is bad but at least they drawn the close up of the faces great though beta uprising lol "come and get me, you goddamn beta"  |
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