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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Ahhh, Iino has already started to make a move 0.0 Kaguya's expressions are the best đ Well, I was honestly expecting it from Koba-san. Although I don't like the way things have turned out now, I want them to be friends again and get along better .-. I feel like a lot of people will complain about the harem they're giving to Ishigami, but it's not something that came out of nowhere, I at least saw it coming a long time ago |
| Ye I feel ya there Osaragi no matter what I just can't bring myself to ship Ishigami with Iino. Anyone but her will do lol. Also time for more flashback ig. Sheesh I just want this whole Ishigami thing to end already so we get more focus on Kaguya and Prez or even Fujiwara will do. |
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| damn osaragi you snake |
| It all makes sense now, why Osaragi ships Tsubame and Ishigami so much, she just doesn't want Iino to get with Ishigami. My gaymer mans a harem protagonist, let's fucking get it. As much as I agree Osaragi has a point about Iino and Ishigami, I also feel like they have a really good relationship and chemistry, so I wouldn't be surprised if they both get together at the time, I wouldn't mind that though. |
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| Damn everything has been foreshadowed so well there are so many instances in previous chapters that hinted at osaragi being a shitty friend. I wonder if this is her redemption arc. |
| Thought that forgot something about Iino and Osaragi, but flashback incoming. Kaguya's reactions are as cute as always =/ Osaragi looks really beatiful oO |
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| I gotta be entirely honest, I kind of don't give too much a shit that these 2 are having a falling out. Osagiri has had such an inconsistent personality this whole series and never really blended well with miko on a comedic or emotional level. Like this was all foreshadowed and everything but I think theres a way to both handle this idea of them not actually being all that close in universe whilst still being impactful to the viewer through way of making their interactions enjoyable and the thought of that ending sad to us. Like for example no one bought they would change things permenantly like it teased but for the Hayasaka arc, the thought of Hayasaka leaving kaguya actually works cause we the viewer give a fuck about that relationship before the conflict. Like if I gotta be frank, she's the only character i kind of lean on saying is unlikable, I just think about how they played up her breaking that one sports guy heart for jokes or her general disconnection when talking about anyone thats not ishigami. Then there's that front to where this Ishigami obsession stuff feels like it really came out of no where a while back and now that its kind of her defining characteristic it just makes her feel messy as a character. I don't think shoehorning in a flashback to act like this character is always gonna be the way she's acting now is gonna change things |
JizzyHitlerJul 14, 2021 1:56 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I think you might be ignoring some really glaring issues with her that go well beyond shipping stuff, seeing alot of people pointing out theres been alot of hints of her doing some pretty shitty things that make people hate on her. https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/okc1eq/disc_kaguya_wants_to_be_confessed_to_chapter_231/h56xbgs/ Also you really are downplaying in universe how unhealthy this obsession is, shes projecting herself almost entirely onto another person (Tsubame) and trying to dictate the life decisions of someone she barely knows (Ishigami) at the cost of personal relationships taking it out on others. It pretty much has nothing to do with Miko Ishigami or Tsubame and so on more so they are just the ones she latched onto. |
JizzyHitlerJul 14, 2021 2:21 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Love her or hate her, Osaragi did speak some facts. Honestly, Iino is a pain. She has some significant character flaws (in the context of the story, not from a reader perspective) and she hasn't truly worked on a lot of them. Sure, she's recently been much kinder to Ishigami but it's really just a facade. She's being nice to make him fall for her - not so that she can work toward being a better person in general. Even then, she's condescending a lot of the time. I do not think she's a good match for Ishigami as it stands, nor do I think she'd be a good person to be friends with. So while it probably would've been better for Osaragi to speak up about it directly to Iino, I don't blame her for not considering Iino a true friend. Osaragi isn't obligated to be friends with Iino. While two wrongs don't make a right, it's understandable why Osaragi doesn't want to put work into a friendship where she feels Iino isn't doing the same. Now obviously as others have pointed out, Osaragi obviously has some issues to work through - jealousy being one of them. But keep in mind, she's 15/16. Young teenagers are learning how to deal with this kind of stuff. But teenagers should probably know how to be a decent person to one another. I believe Osaragi is honestly one of the deepest characters in the series, and the series is clearly going to expand on that a bit going forward. Not liking her is understandable, but she's a pretty great character from a storytelling perspective. All in all, my one hope for the series is that Ishigami does not fall for Iino. I feel a rejection is what would truly develop her character. |
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| Of course, Iino's going to come in just as Osaragi was going all out there. It must've been really awkward af for Kaguya tho lmao. |
| Gigachad Ishigami's harem still has a lot more growing to do. I give it about 50 chapters before chika, maki and then even kaguya confess their feelings to him. Hayasaka will probably end up dating taichou when that happens but I'm sure she'll end up leaving him for Gigachad Ishigami too sooner or later. |
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| Iino always has the best timing with that door. Flashback arc incoming? |
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| Miko is not perfect girlfriend material but that isn't really Osaragi's decision to make. I can understand Osaragi's low opinion of relationships. Seeing your parents have such public messy drama will definitely cause a lot of psychological damage. I think she likes Ishigami but is scared that their relationship would end up like her parents which is why she projects onto Tsubame where it seems like Ishigami would remain loyal. Now Ishigami is getting over Tsubame and Osaragi views it as a betrayal, even though it's completely irrational. |
| Damn girl projecting your interest on a ship and relentlessly trying to make the other ship not happen is very unhealthy Aka really excel at making Osaragi unlikeable, hopefully the flashback will also triumph on explaining her motivations and later her redemption arc |
| What a chapter! Now that I think about it, Osaragi x Miko never had that good of a chemistry, or maybe I am just imagining stuff. Anyway, this was a beast of a chapter, from Osaragi pointing out one of the major problems I was having with Ishigami’s romance to Kaguya being able to see beneath Osaragi’s veneer like a genius to the goddamn plot twist! Aka is officially back baby! |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| mysterious girl finally open up and it's not pretty. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Osaragi's eyes are so pretty. In a way, I kind of get what she is feeling and it sucks having it come to fruition. |
| Miko interacting with Ishigami to get his attention was so cute This is getting serious and now Miko has chosen Ishigami over Kobachi Getting to see Kaguya discussing after all Ishigami & Niko chapters was nice |
| "When There Is Evil In This World That Justice Cannot Defeat, Would You Taint Your Hands With Evil To Defeat Evil? Or Would You Remain Steadfast And Righteous Even If It Means Surrendering To Evil?" |
| Kaguya's expression are the best đđ I don't think the author will make Korome as a love interest for Ishigami so I still ship YuuXMiko |
| "When There Is Evil In This World That Justice Cannot Defeat, Would You Taint Your Hands With Evil To Defeat Evil? Or Would You Remain Steadfast And Righteous Even If It Means Surrendering To Evil?" |
| I liked this chapter way more than the previous few chapters. We had never really seen the dynamics of the ino-osaragi friendship and this chapter gave us exactly that. Kaguya's expression was hilarious and i think this was the first time we saw Osaragi's eyes. Amazing |
| Say what you want about Osaragi, but you can at least admit that she's fucking gorgeous. Like objectively speaking, I think she has the most attractive design in the series or it's just my love for glasses talking lmao. That was such a fantastic chapter! Definitely one of the best in the series for me. Suddenly, everything about Osaragi and Iino (especially Osaragi) makes sense. I felt the tension when Iino walked in on Osaragi talking trash, to think her luck of walking in the student council room at the wrong times would come into play like this. I was definitely Kaguya this whole chapter, her reactions were gold lmao. I honestly like how Kaguya and Shirogane are like side characters this arc and are just giving advices to their kouhais like the good senpais they are, it's nice. It's backstory time, really looking forward to it. |
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| Osaragi making the whole Ishigami Iino dynamic even more complicated than first expected.Might be setting it up for a third way finale that we're not expecting? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Not gonna lie, She looks gorgeous. |
| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
| Can we have Osaragi x Ishigami bandwagon now? I'm happy about this chapter because I longing for the plot. For me, Osaragi is a awesome character and deserves be with Ishigami more than Miko. 1. She observes him, she cares and wants him to be happiness, even out of this "love story". 2. She denied so long her feelings for sake the person who she likes and for Miko's sake and then she had to watching a freak show about Miko be a pain in the ass and manipulative all time. Of course it's hits hard when you like/love someone. 3. In my opinion, even she says "I'm not in love" the jealousy of Miko x Ishigami is about love. Maybe a kind of stretch interpretation but a fine one I guess. 4. About friendship, is fine. A kind of misinterpretation. For me, they aren't friends not because the feelings of friendship, but, because Osaragi can't be herself because Ishigami x Miko x Osaragi triangle. When you had to hide your feelings towards someone who your friend likes, or you can't be honest with your friend, or even you abide for his sake and can't tell the truth about it, and hear the feelings and can't be honest about it. It's bad friendship. For the reason, she was really honest for the first time. 5. The thing is how she observes Ishigami and how hard she wants to him be happy, and how jealousy she was about how Ishigami loves and who can't be loved, is about a "hard love" or real love, no idealism, what she wants its "Ishigami be happy", if she can't do it, somebody who at least be a nice person. Not a prince or god boyfriend, if she can choose, she wants to be with real Ishigami (remember when she said she likes more "non-athletic person", maybe a hint?). At this point, is the deepest love towards Ishigami. It's really beautiful and wholesome. And the part "she can't do it" is about Ishigami doesn't see her in romantic way (for now). 6. In the past, Osaragi shows to be a very decent person, but a martyr. Now, I'm cheering her to let it loose and make for it. I'm not against Miko, but the reality is she is a really complicate and pain in the ass to watch/care, and doesn't want to be a better person for love, she plays like a child who wants a toy. When Tsubami and Osaragi at this moment shows a lot of action in name of the love. Tsubami wants to give him something to be happy about (include virginity-make love who you really love) and Osaragi give him the true wishes of love. Miko had her chance when Ishigami was weakened, but, totaly wasted it. Because of that, at this point, Osaragi sounds a cool option, let her at least have a chance. |
Beyond-samaJul 15, 2021 11:45 AM
| An interesting chapter but...I wish it hadn't just ignored the ending of the last chapter. What happened between them after she called him out for being jealous? The next thing we saw here was Iino just joining in with Ishigami and Koromo talking about Apex. Kinda makes last chapter feel pointless if this interaction was so nonchalant. But yeah, the stuff with Koba was interesting. Maybe a bit abrupt. Lol I feel like I'm coming across as if I disliked the chapter. I give it a 4/5. Decent, but I expect a bit better from this manga in terms of character continuity. |
Is Blue Box my favorite manga? Not yet...Yes. Yes it is.  |
| I knew Osaragi such backstabber from Tsubame arc |
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| some heavy drama going on, its sad that kobachi didn't think iino as her friend |
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| Yeah, it felt like this was coming. Aka did a very good job setting this up. However, I still think that Iino is the best person for Ishigami, and vice-versa. They're the prototypical example of 'opposites attract'. Although, I'm still kinda sad we haven't seen the end of that Ishigami/Iino conversation from last week |
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| Wow Osaragi’s face was beautiful but the things she said weren’t. It looks like this’ll be a heavy arc |
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| You are not really friends if you haven't argued with each other at least once and reconcile afterwards. I couldn't understand the hate train towards Osaragi. Perhaps it's because I also have a similar personality to her? People are talking about the backstab and her not supporting the Ishi x Iino ship. But she hasn't committed the backstab yet. Also personally, I'm also struggling to ship Ishigami and Iino. There is this inexplicable blockade that is stopping me from shipping them. I'm on Osaragi ship for now. We finally get Osaragi's first full face shot (maybe) |
YosepRAJul 20, 2021 4:38 AM
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| I am too lazy to search for the chapter and my comment but I told you Osaragi was projecting her own feelings in Tsubame and Ishigami relationship. I don't understand how people say that Osaragi turned her personality around, she didn't, she was always like that and I mentioned it before. Mi-chan was not the one to blame that her relationship will fall apart, it was Osaragi who never opened up and told her what she thought. They say that "you are not such a good friend to someone until you fight with that person" and I can understand firsthand how stupid Osaragi has been because I made the same mistakes too. But her way of expressing herself to someone you called "friend" was really pitiful. |
LastLuminescenceAug 5, 2021 11:49 AM
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| Osaragi's support for Ishigami to be with Tsubame was based on her spite for not wanting to see him fall and be with the Iino, the only girl who share a similar experience and disdain that Osaragi does. Their friendly relationship is one born from their fate's similarity, but it crumbles as soon as that similarity is no longer the absolute adhesive force that binds these 2 girls together. |
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| This shows how friendships can disintegrate so quickly when they used to look so solid. |
 My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| Part 2 of Miko being jealous again when Ishigami is chatting with Koromo and at some point Osaragi can’t resist men these days, which is why she broke up with that captain and instead of complaining, why not focus on your own thing instead of caring about men and women being garbage? Either ways it’s easy for someone to cope with those talks, I feel like Kaguya and Shirogane’s marriage is about to happen someday but to make it happen, we better just have a 12 hours chat with the Shinomiya family and then we either get rid of the family or let them get arrested + I feel like talking about marriage in general is not the time to do so in highschool so what’s the point of getting married at the age of 18 when there are many opportunities to find the soulmate of your desire and the way that Osaragi insulted Miko about their own friendship until Miko herself saw them talking about it makes me feel bad for Miko. |
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