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Man wtf was that UPPER LEVEL OF SAKUGA? Come on! The Re:Zero guy became famous for Re:Zero, but then his work to gain the best anime adaptation is now Vivy! So ironic are the plot twists of anime industry.
epidemia78 said: This whole thing about "Diva" becoming a complete separate mind from "Vivy" seemed so unnecessary to me. Why couldn't the Vivy we started out with just learned from experience over the many years since her last mission and gradually develop a more confident personality? That would have been more interesting IMO. Seems like just a way of shoehorning another "sad" death into the story.
Sure the reason for this plot event was another "sad farewell" just as like ep. 2, and 4, and 6 lol
But at least i praise an well made story, and it fits well in the plot: Vivy "broke" her mission (aka soul) seeying the suicide, so we would lose to see a "Diva fullfilling the promisse to Momoka of be the great singer that would make everyone happy".
Then the plot found a way, and now, yay, the tormented Ai is back and i HOPE we never hear anymore she repeating her damn mission again lol (im still going to watch next episodes).
Man, it is so sad when we lose the weekly realease of new episodes to discuss about anime. Binging it later is like watch netflix series.
Binging this series right now and I cannot believe how much of a banger it is so far; props to WIT Studio for delivering us a serious dark horse. My feels are at a next level high off this.
Complex bad subs, need rewatch better subs.
Great fight Kakitani bot 40years later vs Diva.
Sad chad Diva senpai personality is gone, and left us that strong song of partnering with Matsumoto, going beyond the individual mission.
So many themes happening, and connections to previous arcs crucial especially the Dr's suicide causing Vivy's split persona & breakdown. Parallel between Antonio & Ophelia, vs Cube & Vivy's strained relation. Kakitani & his piano teacher compared to Vivy, him questioning why make AI approach humanity.
Dammit it got me, this episode got me. I cannot word how amazing this watch has been, this anime has hit almost everything for being a masterpiece in my eyes.
Absolutely loved Matsumoto's development. Until now we've always seen him as the lead, bossy, sarcastic and argumentative with Vivy. However his talk with Antonio, admitting that he was close to the obsessive state similar to his with Ophelia, a failure of a partner that never put their partner first, but the mission, always the mission, and regretting it. Developments like these were we see characters change and developed not just slightly, but massively, is what i love to see in my animes.
Antonio and Ophelia's story was truly a heart breaker. It's clear Antonio's actions was inheritably wrong, but was his reason really that cynical? He truly wanted Ophelia to succeed in her career, but his role as a guardian, became more of obsession that led to over-protection of Ophelia, and clouded his vision. He really did care for her, otherwise why would he of gone so far? But it can also be argued that he didn't care for her, but her mission, why go as far to take over her? To play the role of Ophelia for so long instead of help guide her? To accomplish her mission to make everyone happy with her singing.
The ending was the real nail in the coffin for me. If we say that at the end, the Ophelia that held onto his corpse was the real Ophelia, then that shows he never erased her and truly just cared for her, not her mission, till the end
Kakitani's character in this series personally has to be on of the most interesting, shrouded in mystery, but personally i'm ok with the conclusion to his story. A man, so dedicated to his cause, to his mission that one would argue he was a machine from the very beginning, that at the end, broke.
note: this is all mostly personal theory, please correct me if i'm wrong
Kakitani through out the show has been almost portrayed as the "bad guy" being in the notorious Toak organisation, his little sympathy to Androids, later starting to contradict himself with hiring Elizabeth, then now becoming an android himself, maybe for the sake of his mission, but at the end was nothing but a broken person.
We could imagine his leader from the first arc, was gone by Sunrise took place, now with himself taking over as the leader of Toak. Leading this "fight" against animatronics he was so fixated about still. However sunrise, metal float, all went through no? He wanted to crash Sunrise, shut down Metal float and it happened, but at who's hands? Vivy, an android. Having to watch an android again, and again do his work while he failed, arguably slowly ate away at him, and potentially made him question his own ability that an andrioid was surpassing him, and as a leader.
That is why the talk he had on Metal Float with Vivy was so important, it changed him, and maybe not for the better. I would argue that the talk they had almost had the opposite effect of what was intended. He ended up idolising "Vivy" the android that shared the more-or-less same goal to "destroy A.I" not "Diva". I feel like this desperation to accept anyone, as a new leader, someone he can look to, and it being and android of all things, was the straw that broke the camel's back, but in this case finally accepting defeat that he could never truly accomplish his mission of destroying A.I and can never escape the reality that human A.I co-existence was imminent, was what ultimately broke him.
The obsession trying to return Vivy back, the only person that potentially gave his life a meaning now, I also feel was how Antonio, who equally idolised Ophelia to the same degree, teamed up. Like attracts like as they say?
However so much mystery still surrounds his character, like in this ep, how did he get his hands on far future tech? What were his final end goals? I'd say his character from the beginning, always had me distaining him, but looking at it now i can't help feel sad for this man who constantly had to question his mission, forever unable to escape the reality he was in, and ultimately accept defeat.
The ending was really something Antonio and Ophelia's story, Diva's situation, the music, the visuals, Diva's final words to Vivy all had me in shambles. I really haven't felt this way about an anime in a while.
The fight between Diva and Kakitani was epic, it had fantastic music and looked soooooooo good. Definitely one of my favourite episodes from the series, kept me on edge the entire time.
Once again not a fan of fight scenes in this anime. I feel like they should not belong here. So, Vivy is back but Diva is gone. Does that mean the singing is over?
The fight between Antonio and Matsumoto was nice but the fight between Vivy and Yuugo was so damn good.. So Diva's memory disappeared? and now Vivy is back?
Insane, thrilling, yet heartfelt and resonant. That was an incredible episode, especially regarding the scene with Diva (upbeat persona) talking to her original Vivy self (the autonomous robotic persona). The action scenes and even the fight choreography were stupendous, even if they ain't on the level of something like KnY or JJK.
Nothing and no one prepared me for the electronic warfare program and Diva's fight!
“Why does an apple fall when it is ripe? Is it brought down by the force of gravity? Is it because its stalk withers? Because it is dried by the sun, because it grows too heavy, or because the boy standing under the tree wants to eat it? None of these is the cause.... Every action of theirs, that seems to them an act of their own free will is in the historical sense not free at all but is bound up with the whole course of history and preordained from all eternity.”
So the energetic, confident and happy Vivy is not "Vivy" but "Diva", a complete alter ego of her, basically a different person.
And Diva has to go now, so Vivy can return. Matsumoto's partner is Vivy only.
The idea and execution of this ep is brilliant, Diva really pours her heart and soul in her last performance. Hopefully project singularity will be a success so her sacrifice is bot dying in vain.
Matsumoto didn't use 100% of his power, once he did it all went down. Truly the superior AI from the future.
ZXEAN said: Why Ophelia/Antonio want to committee suicide again I still don't get it ?
Other then that this episode is fantastic the fight scene was mind blowing and R.I.P Diva ,
antonio took over the both of them, got upset he couldn't even sing as good as she could as her, and wanted to end it and when he died she got restored, but of course at that point she was dying. she probably was a spectator the whole time but had no control.
What's that, a robotic love story! This show using anthropomorphism every episode and it does not works, not for me. Art and animation is top notch but the plot gets repetitive. Episode 6 was the peak.
So for old diva/vivy when they said frozen and got rebooted I thought she was gone. But she was actually just hiding away. New Diva was very cocky and super cheerful and full of expression would of been kinda nice to have like both of them interact more with each other or take turns controlling the body.
at this point in the show ive lost all care for vivy, so her whole split personality thing had 0 impact on me personally. the whole plot with that one dude felt pointless as well, it wasn't necessary in the slightest, and made it so vivy was actually useless this entire arc. 2/5
This episode was something special. The direction, too. Masterclass.
I didn't expect Diva to be erased. I thought she would just unlock her memories as Vivy. That's quite unfortunate. I liked her warm personality and quirky finger snaps. And that little dance she did at the end while talking to Vivy added so much to her character. All of it made her human. It's sad things ended up this way, but I'm happy to see Diva fulfill her mission. In the end, she revealed what's inside. Her heart.
Fantastic episode, I'm really liking the direction and writing.
We finally learn about Kakitani's past and the reason why he joined Toak.
Our decisions / experiences and how we evolve from those define us and make us human.
We see an example of this by Antonio and his decision to take over Ophelia, his mission was to support Ophelia and through his experiences with her he eventually interpreted that by having to take over her body.
Just the fact that he was able to perfectly imitate her without anyone noticing implies he had a deeper understanding of Ophelia other than how they were both programmed.
The "mission" these AI have really shows how they're more than just computers / 0's and 1's, they make illogical decisions just like humans.
Another example of tasteless 'let's humanize not only androids but also robots to a degree not reachable by many human characters in other anime'. Then what is the purpose of this anime which imitates sci-fi but always ends with some human tier drama? Looks like a bait to me then. What is the point of deleting of Diva's personality? Just for more drama reason again, it's so fresh...