Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro
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Gab5 said: Xaphion said: Well of course she just met him so she doesn't know his limits and she goes all the way without hesitation but at least she stops at the point where it's obvious he can't take any more. What next? If he starts drowning when she pushed him in the river she will call for help so its all OK? Oh, at least..... I never said it was all okay. I was only glad that the starting point wasn't as low as I imagined it would be, being an anime only and hearing spoiler-free descriptions on how it will progress. Even throughout the episode, with every encounter we see (what I'm assuming are) slight pangs of guilt. In the art room she sticks around and tries to cheer him up (though for some reason still wearing that shit eating grin), and on the next encounter she acknowledges her terrible treatment of him. I would understand if people dropped it after just this episode. What I myself am expecting from this anime would be Senpai overcoming his trauma/bad habits by being pushed out of his comfort zone, and Nagatoro...at least learning some moderation, but hopefully growing that peanut of a conscience. |
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| Well that was a boring and annoying start. I don't like Nagatoro's personality, she's pretty annoying same with the wimpy MC. |
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| i haven't read the manga, but i loved the first episode! honestly nagatoro did nothing wrong, i'd bully senpai too. she's just trying to help him build character, i respect that |
| Oh god I hate this lol Annoying as fuck MC, he should get mad or say something ffs. The girl pretty much carried the whole episode, but she quite overdid it. I’m not sure I can get through this for 12 episodes |
LostSpectre said: misaxtoe said: It's not the psychopathic bullying you might see in other anime, but you can't just repeatedly taunt and insult someone, all while making them increasingly uncomfortable, and then savoring their tears after you finally break them, and then it call it "playing". You do realize that her version of "playing" around is straight up sadistic, right? Granted, it's both fictional and not even a serious show, so none of this actually matters. Oh, and she loses like 50% of her edge by the next episode. I’ve wanted to read the manga for about a year now because it seemed interesting, but I was a bit too lazy. I just finished watching the first episode right now and I think I might finally pick up the manga because I actually find this pretty funny, and in my opinion some of the scenes were super cute. I also really love Naoto because he’s really adorable. I’m not really sure why so many people even consider this bullying when it’s pretty obvious that Nagatoro is just playing around. I’m excited to see where this goes. (: Honestly, it feels like you and many other people are just overreacting. She’s just teasing him, and it’s obvious that it’s to help him. When I was in middle school I used to tease boys (Only like three but you get the gist) like that as well because they were weak as hell. Yeah, they cried a lot, but the majority of them definitely did toughen up afterwards. Plus teasing a person is NOTHING compared to actually bullying them. And, as many other people have said, Naoto just seems like the type to cry over anything. |
| it's not the worst. but damnn it's so annoying and entertaining at the same time.. Nagataro.. it's ok I guess. I love all the expressions she made but the "teasing" thingy is kinda overdone for me. as for MC, I hate it. will try a few more episode with this.. |
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IsekaiFan9543596 said: grumpy_wolf said: She didn't mean to lol, are you blind, she just meant to push him a little bit but she didn't realize how light he is and she even felt sorry after accidently pushing him off the bridge"teasing" ? she pushed him off a fucking bridge Maybe in your fetish world this is called teasing but in reality this is bullying and the kind that can get one a lawsuit. I wonder why people even bother to bring up their headcanon. We all have seen the episode, so who are they trying to fool? lol |
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misaxtoe said: No, the Reddit thread makes mention of bullying numerous times, it's just that people don't feel the need to cry about it, and defend her behavior, as if there was actually some sort of necessity to do so, when that couldn't be further from the truth. She comes on way too strong, and if she acted like that the whole series she would be a borderline psychopath, but none of those things happen, you won't even recognize her character by the midway point. No one with even half of a functioning brain thinks repeatedly insulting someone for being a pathetic creepy virgin, all while continuing to invade their personal space after they are visibly uncomfortable, qualifies as good-natured "teasing". LostSpectre said: It's not the psychopathic bullying you might see in other anime, but you can't just repeatedly taunt and insult someone, all while making them increasingly uncomfortable, and then savoring their tears after you finally break them, and then it call it "playing". You do realize that her version of "playing" around is straight up sadistic, right? Granted, it's both fictional and not even a serious show, so none of this actually matters. Oh, and she loses like 50% of her edge by the next episode. Honestly, it feels like you and many other people are just overreacting. She’s just teasing him, and it’s obvious that it’s to help him. When I was in middle school I used to tease boys (Only like three but you get the gist) like that as well because they were weak as hell. Yeah, they cried a lot, but the majority of them definitely did toughen up afterwards. Plus teasing a person is NOTHING compared to actually bullying them. And, as many other people have said, Naoto just seems like the type to cry over anything. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Mokocchi_x3 said: This is just a lame excuse people keep using, she isn't trying to help him do anything, she just sees a fidgeting nervous wreck of a guy, and can't resist bullying him to tears, because she is practically getting off to it. It doesn't matter anyway, she mellows out quite a bit by the next episode. i haven't read the manga, but i loved the first episode! honestly nagatoro did nothing wrong, i'd bully senpai too. she's just trying to help him build character, i respect that |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| It was a pretty interesting Episode and I have some theories about the story. Nagatoro started to interact with the MC after reading his doujin manga. Authors tend to create main characters, which are based on their own personalitys. "Siegfried" seems to be a projection of the MC and at the same time a desire for more courage and strength. Nagatoro even adressed this topic by herself and i think she wants to help him in a strange way. She even ask him with a serious demeanor "Don't you ever get angry Senpai? I've been pretty horrible to you". Maybe she wants him to stand up for himself and to fight back. The MC handled previous conflicts by just enduring them and closing his eyes. After all the teasing of Nagatoro, he's able to say his honest opinion about her and release parts of his own feelings. This is a small development of his previous behaviour. The MC is a loner and seems to suffering from social anxiety and a low self-esteem. He always tried to avoid social interactions, but desire them at the same time. You can only overcome a social anxiety by facing uncomfortable situations in your daily life. So Nagatoro seems to be perfect counterpart for his character, due to her teasing behaviour. It's an interesting premise and iam looking forward to the next Episodes. Maybe i think too much about it, but that's my interpretation. |
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Mokocchi_x3 said: i haven't read the manga, but i loved the first episode! honestly nagatoro did nothing wrong, i'd bully senpai too. she's just trying to help him build character, i respect that Don't you think there are better ways to build his character than traumatizing him? |
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| Oh how I hated this. I don't even know where to start. This bullying is not funny or cute at all, it's straight out cruel and terrible behavior, and I believe animes like this will encourage some girl that it's okay to terrorize weaker guys and they will call it "feminism". Like some people here said earlier, if the genders were swapped everyone would lose their shit, which makes it even more clear that what is going on in this show is not okay. It doesn't make it okay that a woman is doing it. Plus, her facial expressions are batshit insane and degenerate, is it supposed to look cool or sexy or what?? Like when her eyeballs have different sizes and she twitches and stuff, that just reminds me of a fly that got hit but isn't completely dead yet. CANCEL |
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| The animation and art is great, but I can't stand these characters so far. I just want to reach through the screen and punch this girl so bad. This "senpai" needs an ass kicking along with a father figure as well, like where is his spine. Worst part is that this is somehow supposed to be appealing, so these characters will probably never get their comeuppance. |
Solatic said: It's a romcom with some fanservice, just ignore that the author forgot he wasn't making a revenge doujin for the first couple chapters. The animation and art is great, but I can't stand these characters so far. I just want to reach through the screen and punch this girl so bad. This "senpai" needs an ass kicking along with a father figure as well, like where is his spine. Worst part is that this is somehow supposed to be appealing, so these characters will probably never get their comeuppance. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: It's a romcom with some fanservice, just ignore that the author forgot he wasn't making a revenge doujin for the first couple chapters. Yea I plan on giving it a few episodes at the very least, it's well made enough to hook me. I don't like this dynamic though, so if it's toned down I think I'll be able to enjoy it, but I'll probably never like the characters much. |
Solatic said: I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll just say that I'm up to date in the manga, and I treat the first 3 chapters like they don't exist or they're supposed to be purely dark comedy with how absurdly over the top it is, between her sadism and his spinelessness. It's not a stretch to say that the beginning of the story is thematically garbage, and only serves to confuse the viewer, whether you enjoyed it or hated it.LostSpectre said: It's a romcom with some fanservice, just ignore that the author forgot he wasn't making a revenge doujin for the first couple chapters. Yea I plan on giving it a few episodes at the very least, it's well made enough to hook me. I don't like this dynamic though, so if it's toned down I think I'll be able to enjoy it, but I'll probably never like the characters much. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| the first episode gave me mixed feelings. none are that positive. a mix of i lowkey feel bad, cringe, and uhhhh 5/10 |
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YueNaDe said: This anime is not my cup of tea, so probably not continue to watch. However, character designs are amazing. Nagatoro is a huge refresh in character design. Yeah I also really like her design it's pretty simple but she's such a memorable looking character that I could spot her in a lineup of "school anime girls" without any problem. |
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| I really enjoyed the first episode some of the scenes were just shot for shot remakes of the manga which I appreciate because the manga had good artwork. Another plus is also the facial expressions of the characters which are really good too, they're expressive and I know just what they're thinking by looking at them. |
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| I can't come to like these shows. Similar to Karaki Jouzu no Takagi-san, as I see it is just wrong on so many levels. Supposed to be entertaining I guess, but it is just about bullying someone for your entertainment or sadism or twisted sense of love. Why though? If it were in real life, the bullied person would already gone crazy or committed suicide. Totally scarring someone for life. Maybe the guy here is somewhat a masochist so perhaps he turns to like this treatment, but normally people wouldn't. Yes, it is just fiction, but still wtf, what is wrong with people. |
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| Honestly, if people dislike this just drop/give your low score and leave. Jesus... Nobody cares about your childhood ptsd. Just like most shows, this one was made to entertain. If you're not entertained, nobody's forcing you to watch. |
snowman_builder said: Did you just compare innocent schoolyard teasing in Takagi-san to bullying that would make someone want to die? Get a fucking grip on reality. I can't come to like these shows. Similar to Karaki Jouzu no Takagi-san, as I see it is just wrong on so many levels. Supposed to be entertaining I guess, but it is just about bullying someone for your entertainment or sadism or twisted sense of love. Why though? If it were in real life, the bullied person would already gone crazy or committed suicide. Totally scarring someone for life. Maybe the guy here is somewhat a masochist so perhaps he turns to like this treatment, but normally people wouldn't. Yes, it is just fiction, but still wtf, what is wrong with people. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
phantom360 said: This was good but the mc needs to man up,Stop crying and put that mofo in her place stop being a wimp hopefully that changes later episodes. Haha, I dont think this will ever happen. The show's appeal is to certain fetishes and that will remain so. The rest of us can rate this crap low and laugh :D |
| Pacing feels slow. It feels like it might get obnoxious. I'll stick with it though, let's see how it fares. Plus another thing, and yes, I'm aware that this is a charm point of the original series and it would hardly be the same without it. But holy crap, that guy has no business being that tall considering his complete lack of a spine. |
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| It's a bit mean-spirited....I don't know if I'm sold yet. But I can relate to the MC; if someone found my unfinished manga sketches, I'd freaking die. OTL (They tend to be sappy af so it'd be embarrassing. xD) |
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| Major drawback to these kinds of shows is that the authors can't write realistic small talk as they are usually losers themselves. So in these shows we have exaggerated caricatures of socially awkward losers and exaggerated caricatures of idiots that are pretend cool. I know it will probably get better later on in the show but I really can't stand it. Unrelated but this is one of Sumipe's best roles in a while. |
| This anime is just what I expected after reading the manga. Nagatoro's VA captured her personality really well! Why did she have to say 'sus' though? Smh smh 10/10 for the ED (or OP?); it sounds so good! |
Chiibi said: Without spoiling anything, no one should take the first episode seriously, thematically speaking, even as a comedy it is greatly exaggerated for shock value or "please step on me" vibes, it doesn't deserve to be viewed in any kind of serious capacity, and it gives a misleading impression of the show as a whole.It's a bit mean-spirited....I don't know if I'm sold yet. But I can relate to the MC; if someone found my unfinished manga sketches, I'd freaking die. OTL (They tend to be sappy af so it'd be embarrassing. xD) |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| They adapted her dommy mommy persona from the manga pretty good. |
| God, I wish that were me. |
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| Geez, man how could you let a couple of kphai's push you around? |
| The girl is really cute, but it feels kinda like Uzaki-chan 2.0. I'll keep watching it though. |
| 100% the expected animation style/visuals! 100% not the voice I ever expected Nagatoro to have. |
| It was kinda boring and honestly I don't find unasked for bullying really funny or entertaining. Except if you're into "BDSM" stuff where a woman treat you like shit, I'm not sure what's the appeal of the show yet.. Most of the time she just insult him for no reason, and then it cuts to the next scene... Edit: Judging by the comments above, I see I'm not the only one that is confused, and I also see I was right "I wish it was me". This show is basically for people into the slave-master thing. The insults are just mean and have little to no comedic effect, it could actually just be considered bullying/abuse. |
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