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Mar 24, 2021 8:58 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Heh, Alfred and Marius fighting those monsters in the royal castle. Those monsters also looks hideous.

The drama and action scenes didn't impress me much either. Seems this episode just wanted to wrap up the main conflict that has been going on. Meh, it's a very average anime imo, easily forgettable.
Mar 24, 2021 8:58 AM
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As expected, we get to see the FULL backstory of the Hortensia Kingdom from Episode 1...lies in the instigator of Pope Vall d'Hebron's desperate attempt to pull off his religious stunts to resurrect the dead and destroy the royal family from within.

Facing their own past, and having to face the final boss of a devilish regenerating demonic big boob monster, that's unsightly. But no worries, bring back Marielle's mysterious power from last episode and the return of Rugis as the catalyst werewolf, all'd be settled right? Right? WRONG.

The "knight in shining armour" for an awful sacrifice at the end, resurrected only by the hopes of a princess. So yup...go play the game to find out the alternate timeline.

Welp...another awful showing of a game adaptation.
KANLen09Mar 24, 2021 6:32 PM
Mar 24, 2021 11:06 AM
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wtf is that ending?

Mar 24, 2021 11:25 AM
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Soooo...the pope grew tits when he became a demon? Neat.

This show wasn't good. When it began I found it confusing, just being thrown into it expected to memorize terms and locations. I never bothered with that. To its credit it did become more linear and understandable as it went on though...which is faint praise I know, but hey it's all I got. The last few episodes in particular were easier to watch, though the tragic Alfred death then apparently turned into a demon sequel bait ending was dumb as hell. Honestly it alone makes me want to knock another point off my score, but I won't. I'll be kind with a 5/10, but this was Bottom 3 this season for me, and very possibly the worst show I watched overall. Best left forgotten. I guess the game this was based on probably isn't great either.
Mar 24, 2021 11:31 AM
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So Alfred is dead and someone else is in hos body now? or is it him but he just turned evil? Damn what a shitty place to end this. We won't ever get season 2 so this sucks.

animefan8800 said:
Soooo...the pope grew tits when he became a demon? Neat.

This show wasn't good. When it began I found it confusing, just being thrown into it expected to memorize terms and locations. I never bothered with that. To its credit it did become more linear and understandable as it went on though...which is faint praise I know, but hey it's all I got. The last few episodes in particular were easier to watch, though the tragic Alfred death then apparently turned into a demon sequel bait ending was dumb as hell. Honestly it alone makes me want to knock another point off my score, but I won't. I'll be kind with a 5/10, but this was Bottom 3 this season for me, and very possibly the worst show I watched overall. Best left forgotten. I guess the game this was based on probably isn't great either.
Judging a game based on anime adaptation is dumb af. Anime adaptation of games are mainly for advertisement. Games have much more to offer than story, play a game before you judge it.
ArimaKanaMar 24, 2021 8:52 PM
Mar 24, 2021 11:34 AM
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ZeroTwo__002 said:
animefan8800 said:
Soooo...the pope grew tits when he became a demon? Neat.

This show wasn't good. When it began I found it confusing, just being thrown into it expected to memorize terms and locations. I never bothered with that. To its credit it did become more linear and understandable as it went on though...which is faint praise I know, but hey it's all I got. The last few episodes in particular were easier to watch, though the tragic Alfred death then apparently turned into a demon sequel bait ending was dumb as hell. Honestly it alone makes me want to knock another point off my score, but I won't. I'll be kind with a 5/10, but this was Bottom 3 this season for me, and very possibly the worst show I watched overall. Best left forgotten. I guess the game this was based on probably isn't great either.
Judging a game based on anime adaptation is dumb af. Anime adaptation of games are mainly for advertisement. Games have much more to offer than story, play a game before you judge it.


Alright alright, don't get butthurt. I'll retract the supposition. Or perhaps amend it to say if the story is identical to how it was presented in this anime adaptation then it's not great. Keep in mind I did say both probably, which inherently implies I might be wrong and not great which is not the same as awful. I never intend to play it regardless so I'll never know. Thinking about more in fact as an advertisement this anime failed harder as the negative feelings it left me with only further cemented that I would never try the source game.
animefan8800Mar 24, 2021 11:40 AM
Mar 24, 2021 12:40 PM
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Can someone explain what happened at the end how has Alfred come back to life. What is the Princesses power?
Mar 24, 2021 12:55 PM
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final episode just as bad as the rest, the pope battle and the revelations were so boring

1/10

Mar 24, 2021 1:23 PM
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Well that was a weird fucking ending wasn't it. Its one of those "you want to know what happens next ? Play our game" king of endings.

Meh.
Mar 24, 2021 1:27 PM

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And here I thought they would kill off Alfred in the end. They just had t bring him back. I wonder what consequences it will have though. Probably not a good one.

Mar 24, 2021 1:30 PM
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Well that was a crappy way to end it.
Why not cliffhanger into another season?
Or happily ever aft?
I mean at least Akame ga Kill made sense in the end even thought it was a bad end.

This was a Glass Lip bad end. Made no sense.
Why all the relationship builds just to end it sourly.
Mar 24, 2021 1:58 PM

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Why did I have a feeling that Marielle would do something stupid? Well she did and all I can do is shake my head and not hope for a season 2. They should've just left Alfred dead, it would've been a more impactful finale (even though the show is bad)
Mar 24, 2021 2:08 PM
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Wow this was a huge pile of rotten cheese at least kings raid had the elfs story to keep me invested what did this have just nice character designs thats pretty much it wow so what was the point of making it look like he would die in the OP weird way to bait people into thinking the series would try to be different who am I kidding has any game anime adaptation been good I can't remember but they aren't good, well at least I can say I managed to finish this show basically a 4/10 from me

Mar 24, 2021 2:48 PM
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quite a decent final episode, lots of stuff explained and cool fights too, glad that everything (kinda) worked out well in the end. that ending though, i guess that leaves some stuff open so i guess season 2 could be possible? anyways it was pretty ok overall so i'd say this was a 3/10.
Mar 24, 2021 4:07 PM

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At some moments this show was average at best but most of the time it was bad and boring, I'm glad it's over, I hope they never make another season or ova and I'm never playing the game in my life.
Mar 24, 2021 4:44 PM

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An ending like this makes me wonder why I waste my time with things like this. Never before a 4 turned into a 1 so quick.
Mar 24, 2021 4:53 PM

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I guess I'm the only one who thoroughly enjoyed this. The last episode sets up a good hook for another season. I don't think this will do good enough for another season, which is a genuine shame.
Mar 24, 2021 4:58 PM

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What the heck just happened ? I'm totally confuse at the last part

Average show i say
Mar 24, 2021 5:03 PM
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wtf is that ending?



yeah same, alfred dying would have been a far better end to the story. If they are planning to never make a S2 they should have never tried to give a forced cliffhanger just for the sake of it
Mar 24, 2021 5:12 PM
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what an episode that was, the part of Alfred's death was very strange.
Mar 24, 2021 5:33 PM
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A lot of masochists here, not really "enjoying" the anime yet you all somehow made it to the 12th episode, lol. I thought the story was pretty straightforward. Sure, there were some questions raised, but it's a 12-episode anime so I figured they had to skimp on the worldbuilding and get straight to the action/plot (fair enough). The girls saved this anime for me. Adelheid was just smoking hot, Nonnoria was cuteness overload, and Marielle (princess form) was not hard on the eyes at all!

The part that confuses me is that Alfred and Marielle realize that Rugis did not stage the rebellion out of his "own volition", but at the same time when Alfred and werewolf-Rugis are fighting, Alfred drops the "how dare you" bomb for killing his father and the others. It does seem pretty clear that Rugis is in a berserker type of state when in werewolf form. Now that we know that Alfred got resurrected but with a twist of evil corruption, it looks like the House of Albert is doomed lol (unless Nonnoria somehow takes over).

Maurice definitely wins for having the worst ending. I mean damn, now he can't look at the girls anymore.

The one character that was the most interesting to me was Sir Didier. He reminds me a lot of the Nameless character in Kimi to Boku no Saigo no Senjou, Aruiwa Sekai ga Hajimaru Seisen from last season.

I'd watch the second season if there is one. Why not? As for the game, I probably won't ever play it just because those types of games are too time-consuming (I'm holding out for D2 Resurrection anyway haha).
Mar 24, 2021 5:47 PM
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I liked this show, several fights, twists and turns.Alfred died in the end, then the princess used the forbidden power to bring him back but it turned out that he became a demon. FMA "but it's also not bad. Probably there should not be a second season as it is one of those cases of being a prequel to a game.
Mar 24, 2021 5:51 PM

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why'd they have to do the last episode like that...
solid 7 all season, but now dropped to a 6
Mar 24, 2021 5:58 PM

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Interesting the Pope liked big titties. To transform in a creature many times bustier than any person we seen in 12 episodes.

So we are looking a probable season 2, where Alfred become a demon, or have Didier power?
Mar 24, 2021 7:02 PM

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i hope they bring back the game to global so i can see the rest
Mar 24, 2021 7:04 PM
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Him being brought back to life and seemingly being "evil" (that red eye thing at the end) was quite strange but I was honestly expecting some generic ass bs happy ending knowing how the series has been so I was actually not expecting him die at all.

It's weird but I like endings that make me think and all the generic stuff beforehand has damaged my rating quite a bit but I'm glad they chose it to be a more thought provoking one over a generic and plain one. Pretty solid last episode I would say even if I didn't like the series much as a whole




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Mar 24, 2021 7:11 PM
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Could the ending mean, like either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain stuff, will have to look out for S2, because this seemed ridiculous at first, but made me rethink the same after completing lol.
Mar 24, 2021 7:16 PM

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So uh he came back but it's not him anymore? Wth man, why do this. This is worse than killing him off. I was enjoying the anime overall even thou it's a generic story but this just left a bitter aftertaste in my mouth, meh.
Mar 24, 2021 7:21 PM
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Guess I’m a little easier to please than a lot of people - I didn’t find this anime that bad. I mean - it’s not going in my faves, by any means, but I’d watch a S2 if there is one. Seems unlikely, though, and that’s the one thing that would really aggravate me - to end it with so many loose ends if there’s no plans for S2. I hope there is.
Mar 24, 2021 7:22 PM

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Another trash gacha game anime adaptation deserved by yet another trash gacha game.
Mar 24, 2021 7:44 PM
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And so ends another lame ass "Ad-mine" for a mobile (shit tier) game. Into the trash bin it goes with Shironeko Project.

Mar 24, 2021 7:45 PM

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That ending was Dog shit and this anime will be put in the back recesses of my mind.

2/10

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Mar 24, 2021 9:07 PM
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The pope got resurrected to Albert's body just take a look at the red eyes at the ending and the pope's red eye on the poster.
Mar 24, 2021 9:46 PM

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To think that they may put some tragic ending, as they always teased it through the oped, and some tiny glimpse. Well, Alfred became an undead, and possibly a bad guy in the end xD. I wonder why that witch didn't tell the truth to the princess, and why everyone just accepted it like that. To be continued, in the game storylines, i guess!

So that's it. The end of the Hortensia saga first chapter. Its mostly unfinished. Even though the Pope death unmistakably there. Good thing that Didier not death, and flew away with the relic on his hand. In short, its pretty much very predictable stories through the end of the series. So i don't find any appealing matters in these final one, unfortunately. Well, not that i expect much from the beginning of the series. So, its just indeed a fine show with fine end. Even the old man, Maurice still able to survived. Holy shit!

Final individual score through every parts:
Story: 5
Arts: 7
Sounds: 6
Characters: 4
Enjoyment: 5
Average (down) overall scores: 5/10

Okayish show, really nice to fill the times with its kingdom fantasy story. But in the end, well, that's it all from me!
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Mar 24, 2021 10:08 PM
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better wait for 2nd season, the adventure never ends here
Mar 24, 2021 10:30 PM
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Lol is that a hint for a sequel. I am glad Maurice is alive. Did Alfred become a demon?
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Mar 24, 2021 10:33 PM

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SRT_120921 said:
The pope got resurrected to Albert's body just take a look at the red eyes at the ending and the pope's red eye on the poster.


That's a cool theory.
Mar 24, 2021 11:03 PM
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Lmaaaaooooo. What a retarded ending. Uncle survives now is blind, Alfred survives and now isba possessed demon. Understandable have a nice day 😊
Mar 25, 2021 12:14 AM

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SRT_120921 said:
The pope got resurrected to Albert's body just take a look at the red eyes at the ending and the pope's red eye on the poster.


Yo! No way! Damn!

Well, it was nice, I cant stand a lot of stuff but this was ok, the OP stated Alfred will die/begone/sacrifice or something, that was the only thing I was waiting for, the taboo stuff would be ok if we know how the Princess did it

Mar 25, 2021 1:26 AM

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So what happened to Alfred ?? Did he become a different person ??

Can someone give summary to what will happen next. Don't care about spoilers. I don't think this anime will get 2nd season, so anyone who read the source material tell me how it will end
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Mar 25, 2021 1:42 AM

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thepath said:
So what happened to Alfred ?? Did he become a different ??

Can someone give summary to what will happen next. Don't care about spoilers. I don't think this anime will get 2nd season, so anyone who read the source material tell me how it will end

In the theme of the first episode, as well as in others, one user posted the game openings of the second and third arcs, which spoil everything. Even then, after watching them, I decided to continue watching the series, knowing in advance that the first story arc would be weaker than the second. And judging by the overall plot will focus more on
Mar 25, 2021 1:56 AM

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The ending felt like they were getting it ready for a second season but I’d doubt it. It’s most likely just a prequel to the game.

This show was kinda bad I guess. I liked the animation and art style. The ED was one my favorite EDs of the season but that’s it. Nothing else about Hortensia Saga was good.
Mar 25, 2021 1:58 AM
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i enjoy all episodres. this is a normal history of wars but all things all kind

an the final its strange i want to know more about Alfred sister Camelia an all things. wee need another season or ovas

this is a good adaption of a game
Mar 25, 2021 2:59 AM
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It was OK until the last ~5 minutes. Guess that's the nature of these types of shows, much like Grand Order where you had to have played the game to understand everything.
Mar 25, 2021 5:51 AM

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Decent finale to a fairly average fantasy show, but I did enjoy it a bit. This ending is either a "there's going to be a season 2 ending" or a "go play the fucking game ending" lmao. From what I saw this is only one of the arcs of the game, there's more that the anime hasn't adapt. Hopefully we get a season 2, because I ain't going to play the game, though chances are pretty slim. There's still a lot of questions that I want answered, so I really hope we do get one. 6/10
Mar 25, 2021 7:33 AM

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6/10. Was 7/10 for me most of the time - same as King's Raid. Though Hortensia Saga had less boring moments while King's Raid barely managed the 7. (6.5 rounded up.)

Last episode was bad though. Felt like this needed a sequel ...
and let me guess: We are supposed to play the game to get to know more of the story.

(There have even been anime in the past that totally had been some prequel story of the game where the story of the anime wasn't even in the game. And set before the game started lol.)

I would have preferred a better ending. Especially with Rugis - nice to see him in action in that one scene. Him just turning werewolf again ... was horrible.
Mar 25, 2021 9:08 AM
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Nah,it took only 1 week before i decide to give up on this game, compared to other sega mobile games,absolutely Soul Reverse Zero is much way better than this if it had anime adaptation
Mar 25, 2021 12:43 PM

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That ending really left us on a huge cliff hanger that we will never be able to see. It was interesting to see Albert alive again but she commited an taboo that was not suppose to be touched. 6/10 there were some good parts and some boring eps but overall it was ok.
Mar 25, 2021 5:39 PM

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If you're interested on the last scene, search for "hortensia saga official visual fan book 2" and you'll get a spoiler.
Mar 26, 2021 2:46 AM

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It is the final episode, and I honestly don't have a fucking idea about what happened in the entire series.
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