| This anime is bad. It is an incel power fantasy in which every character is a horrible person. It features torture, mindbreak and above all else, rape. There is no excuse for the shit that happens in it and if you try to defend it in the comments you are the problem. But I still enjoy it. And I'm probably not the only one. Am I bad person for this? Probably. Like I said, there is no excuse for what happens in this anime, so there is no excuse for my enjoyment. So say it with me guys: This anime is trash and so am I |
| well if you look at any country law you will see that the kill penalty more than the rape penalty then why it's okay if MC killed those bad guys but it's bad to rape them? in other anime, you see them happy when MC kill the bad guy, even it's a worse act to human law standard so I don't think liking this make you trash, they just have a double idiot standard |
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| Best part was the ending card with the girl all fucked up and the cute moeish ending song in the background. |
Why can't we just enjoy something exactly because its immoral and its the strong point of the show  thoughts dont make you bad person, its the actions you take that make you a bad person. Is like how pedophiles who are attracted to children but dont actually rape children are regular good people that have to sadly fight off immoral urges. Im reminded of that poor person who called onto the Atheist Experience hosted by Matt Dillahunty and dude was crying in how much pain he was in over the fact he was attracted to children against his will  |
DeknijffJan 20, 2021 2:40 PM
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Groenboys said: This anime is bad. It is an incel power fantasy in which every character is a horrible person. It features torture, mindbreak and above all else, rape. There is no excuse for the shit that happens in it and if you try to defend it in the comments you are the problem. You know the parents with teenage children say that about GTA games every time one is released. |
| May be trash but hey a lot of people enjoy this sort of trash, we all have our preferences. Yes it's immoral, there is no defending that, you can call it trash or whatever. The target audience will still enjoy it nevertheless since you don't see many of these sort of shows anyway. |
| its called a guilty pleasure anime, not a big deal |
I agree. Not because u like r*pe hero but because you unironically have Demon Slayer as your favourite anime. |
| I watch 2 epsiodes and think this will One of the best animes for entertain me this seasion. |
| I wasn't ready for this .-. |
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| No I won't say it, I hate that quote, but I'm enjoying the anime. |
KinAsukira said: your opinions disgusts me but I respect itthe anime is good and properly adapted just because its not run of the mill shounen, romcom or CGDCT doesn't mean its garbage. People always jump the gun too early the anime will eventually fill in the holes and plotlines you can't just consider anything unconventional as edgy/incel. too many people don't realize why dark fantasy exist. This anime is great and theres no huge design flaws. |
dark-chaos said: well if you look at any country law you will see that the kill penalty more than the rape penalty then why it's okay if MC killed those bad guys but it's bad to rape them? in other anime, you see them happy when MC kill the bad guy, even it's a worse act to human law standard so I don't think liking this make you trash, they just have a double idiot standard Right of self defense can justify killing, but it nevers justifies rape. |
Deknijff said: Why can't we just enjoy something exactly because its immoral and its the strong point of the show thoughts dont make you bad person, its the actions you take that make you a bad person. Is like how pedophiles who are attracted to children but dont actually rape children are regular good people that have to sadly fight off immoral urges. Im reminded of that poor person who called onto the Atheist Experience hosted by Matt Dillahunty and dude was crying in how much pain he was in over the fact he was attracted to children against his will Would you say the same thing about the Turner Diaries? The hero in that book was justified in his actions to mass-murder all nonwhites and Jews, based on the actions they were written to have committed. If you say yes, well, you're consistent but I now believe you probably hold some fucked up beliefs. If you say no, however, we rightly consider it a piece of trash, because the author is intentionally trying to provoke the reader with a specific theme - that nonwhite people are nothing but animals that need to be destroyed. Y'all seem to discount the idea that Redo of Healer is authored material; it didn't spring out of nothing, someone wrote this with intent. I've read the manga, and the author seems to have one theme they're trying to portray, again and again - that women are terrible and need to be "set right" by "good men". The hero is idolized at every step of the way of his process to rape and-or murder and-or torture every woman that wronged him (and, notably, it is written that women are the ones who most commonly wronged him). But the men that wrong him, some of them are turned into women, as though it is the ultimate humiliation. He never suffers for enacting his revenge, which only leads me to conclude that you are meant to agree with it. I think it's worth self-analyzing why you like it, because this isn't just trash, it's trash that's trying to tell you that hating women is valid. Do you like it because it's basically porn? Okay.. that's weird, but fine, people like what they like, right? ..do you like it because it's cathartic? Maybe, just maybe, you have some deep-seated beliefs you need to come to terms with.. ..or should probably stop lying about. |
SetsukoHara said: dark-chaos said: well if you look at any country law you will see that the kill penalty more than the rape penalty then why it's okay if MC killed those bad guys but it's bad to rape them? in other anime, you see them happy when MC kill the bad guy, even it's a worse act to human law standard so I don't think liking this make you trash, they just have a double idiot standard Right of self defense can justify killing, but it nevers justifies rape. also in old days the law was allowing rape slaves, so you can't justifies things depends on how you live right now, for example if you saw movie about history and saw the main character buy slaves you can't apply your justice to his act, because in his era it's allowed same thing for this anime |
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Vandell said: Deknijff said: Why can't we just enjoy something exactly because its immoral and its the strong point of the show thoughts dont make you bad person, its the actions you take that make you a bad person. Is like how pedophiles who are attracted to children but dont actually rape children are regular good people that have to sadly fight off immoral urges. Im reminded of that poor person who called onto the Atheist Experience hosted by Matt Dillahunty and dude was crying in how much pain he was in over the fact he was attracted to children against his will Would you say the same thing about the Turner Diaries? The hero in that book was justified in his actions to mass-murder all nonwhites and Jews, based on the actions they were written to have committed. If you say yes, well, you're consistent but I now believe you probably hold some fucked up beliefs. If you say no, however, we rightly consider it a piece of trash, because the author is intentionally trying to provoke the reader with a specific theme - that nonwhite people are nothing but animals that need to be destroyed. Y'all seem to discount the idea that Redo of Healer is authored material; it didn't spring out of nothing, someone wrote this with intent. I've read the manga, and the author seems to have one theme they're trying to portray, again and again - that women are terrible and need to be "set right" by "good men". The hero is idolized at every step of the way of his process to rape and-or murder and-or torture every woman that wronged him (and, notably, it is written that women are the ones who most commonly wronged him). But the men that wrong him, some of them are turned into women, as though it is the ultimate humiliation. He never suffers for enacting his revenge, which only leads me to conclude that you are meant to agree with it. I think it's worth self-analyzing why you like it, because this isn't just trash, it's trash that's trying to tell you that hating women is valid. Do you like it because it's basically porn? Okay.. that's weird, but fine, people like what they like, right? ..do you like it because it's cathartic? Maybe, just maybe, you have some deep-seated beliefs you need to come to terms with.. ..or should probably stop lying about. liking a series doesnt equate to... agreeing with its principles... thats the first thing I want to point out, next. I was telling several people this before but, there was NO intent on setting a clear message or belief of the author (who im pretty sure is a woman herself, tho I heard that somewhere on these forums so its highly likely to be incorrect) since this series is a simply, say it with me R-E-V-E-N-G-E P-O-R-N there is no hidden message or set of belief, no one finds guys being raped by a guy to be hot so they are turned into a girl, no one finds guys being raped as hot as a girl being raped so they remain girls, its all sexual appeal for a very messed up fetish that people find enjoyable to WATCH. And no, saying that "they enjoy to watch it so they have some sort of a messed up fetish they want to act up on" is wrong, does playing GTA 5 and having fun doing random violence in it mean you want to commit atrocities in real life? absolutely not, its just something we find enjoyable, a guilty pleasure. and lastly, a series being REVENGE PORN doesnt necessarily mean its a piece of trash, it having a guilty pleasure or an immoral joy doesnt mean its outright trash, what makes THIS series trash is the actual trash writing from the direction of the revenge narrative, all characters who are extremely poorly written and unlikable as well as how poorly it handles rape as a subject, despite all of this tho people find its 18+ content as well as revenge to be satisfying enough to ignore all of that and watch it. |
| A Wise Man Once Said: #(%!*@)+$& |
Groenboys said: This anime is bad. It is an incel power fantasy in which every character is a horrible person. It features torture, mindbreak and above all else, rape. There is no excuse for the shit that happens in it and if you try to defend it in the comments you are the problem. But I still enjoy it. And I'm probably not the only one. Am I bad person for this? Probably. Like I said, there is no excuse for what happens in this anime, so there is no excuse for my enjoyment. So say it with me guys: This anime is trash and so am I Not sure what you're smoking, everything in this anime is 100% excused. dark-chaos said: well if you look at any country law you will see that the kill penalty more than the rape penalty then why it's okay if MC killed those bad guys but it's bad to rape them? in other anime, you see them happy when MC kill the bad guy, even it's a worse act to human law standard so I don't think liking this make you trash, they just have a double idiot standard Because murder is worse than rape. |
| Id like to just apologise for taking so long to reply back Vandell but I was at work Vandell said: I havent read that book series so I can't have an opinion on it that is valid, but I dont see any issue with a reader enjoying it if its exciting to them, but Id certainly hope that person understands that just cause something is in a fictional book that it doesn't reflects reality accuratelyWould you say the same thing about the Turner Diaries? The hero in that book was justified in his actions to mass-murder all nonwhites and Jews, based on the actions they were written to have committed. If you say yes, well, you're consistent but I now believe you probably hold some fucked up beliefs. Id certainly hope the person isnt dumb enough to mistake fiction with reality and then go on a killing spree Vandell said: I mean a book can have excellent characterisation which is multi layered, well constructed thought out plot points with clear progression from point 1 to 2 along with no contradictions in factual data but still deliver you an idea you'd morally disagree with in real life If you say no, however, we rightly consider it a piece of trash, because the author is intentionally trying to provoke the reader with a specific theme - that nonwhite people are nothing but animals that need to be destroyed. If you want to call it trash because it disgusts you feel free but Id hope whoever does that doesnt start lying about the quality of writing just to feel validated in disliking the book Vandell said: I never get the feeling the series is trying to make him look like the good guy here, MC basically always grinning super smugly along with evil laugh like if he from Higurashi Y'all seem to discount the idea that Redo of Healer is authored material; it didn't spring out of nothing, someone wrote this with intent. I've read the manga, and the author seems to have one theme they're trying to portray, again and again - that women are terrible and need to be "set right" by "good men". The hero is idolized at every step of the way of his process to rape and-or murder and-or torture every woman that wronged him (and, notably, it is written that women are the ones who most commonly wronged him). But the men that wrong him, some of them are turned into women, as though it is the ultimate humiliation. He never suffers for enacting his revenge, which only leads me to conclude that you are meant to agree with it.  Presentation wise he seems to be super evil in his action to me and thats the point Id assume. My understanding of the character is that Keyaru a victim thats been broken down by evil and therefore has become evil and lost his sense of morals just so he can enact his revenge for what he feels he now rightly can do and it might be the only thing he can think of because blinded by hatred Never feel the series is telling me to agree or disagree with his actions, its just trying to show you the viewer why he feels the way he does from what he experienced. Now if you agree with his type of self justice thats up to you and whoever is watching Vandell said: Ah well I certainly liked the sex scene in episode 2 because it was fucked up lol xD I think it's worth self-analyzing why you like it, because this isn't just trash, it's trash that's trying to tell you that hating women is valid. Do you like it because it's basically porn? Okay.. that's weird, but fine, people like what they like, right? ..do you like it because it's cathartic? Maybe, just maybe, you have some deep-seated beliefs you need to come to terms with.. ..or should probably stop lying about But like I said in episode discussion I wished he had put that heated rod up her asshole first because way more sadistic Never get the feeling the show saying its valid to hate women but if you get that feeling I dont care to argue, But I personally get feeling gender doesnt matter to Keyaru since he wants revenge on those he felt wronged him which are both men and women and he just trying to do his best to fulfil maximum revenge by doing things he personally thinks would hurt their pride |
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KinAsukira said: I’m not gonna skip the show because it’s only 2 episodes so ima give it a chance and see if it gets better from here for me because I really fail to understand what some people see in this show.EmperorJXL said: your opinions disgusts me but I respect it I'm the same opinion people saying they hate it because they don't like the premise, just skip the anime and know its not for you. Unfortunately it cant be said the same to people that go out of their way to needlessly bash on it with flawed arguments that were already answered in the anime that they just watched. |
KinAsukira said: edge lord level is over 9000EmperorJXL said: I’m not gonna skip the show because it’s only 2 episodes so ima give it a chance and see if it gets better from here for me because I really fail to understand what some people see in this show. Revenge, sweet juicy revenge in this dark cruel world. Let the enemies feel despair, fear and guilt. |
Yep, just like when Flare became Freia. Big improvement. |
| cultural conflict strikes again i say japan has a weird sex culture for sure |
| It is my weekly fap now, and I am proud to say it. |
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| I wish they had shown how bad those heroes treated him like in the manga. In episode 1 it makes it look like they slapped them around a bit and that's it. But gun hero in the manga full on shota slaps that boy's asshole raw with no spit while choking him out. He straight up gives him a donkey punch, then doesn't cuddle after. Ouch And sword hero doesn't just slap him around, in the manga she's gives him that 50 shades of Gray BDSM treatment that only people from Kansas and that one gimp from pulp fiction would like! And the magic hero, she didn't just step on him a little. She would treat my man like a four real dog, butt naked with a collar and leash! Making him lick drugs out of a dog dish, while stepping on him and kicking him. The anime is good, but the manga is of the chain good! I mean make your cum sock jealous cause you can't whip it out fast enough so your pants are getting all the love good. The other thing I wish it showed was how the maids took advantage of and looked down on our naive little healer hero during his first life by semi forcing him to do the wedding press ground and pound. But then in second life, he's getting his small little piece of revenge on them by enjoying it and using them until they basically turn into thot-monsters! But yeah this shows a hot steaming pile of trash and I'm the bag baby so fill....me....up! No recycling here my guy I want this show littering in the street....just like where most of the girls in this show belong. |
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| How is this an incel show, you don't realize that YOU are the problem, saying "Anime is trash and so am I" isn't gonna help. Incel power fantasy lmfao people are allowed to like whatever the fuck they want without being called a derogatory term, if you can't handle the shit shown in this anime, then don't watch it. No one is a bad person for enjoying a fucking anime, Jesus man. |
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BoguKamBek said: Arin-san said: How is this an incel show, you don't realize that YOU are the problem, saying "Anime is trash and so am I" isn't gonna help. Incel power fantasy lmfao people are allowed to like whatever the fuck they want without being called a derogatory term, if you can't handle the shit shown in this anime, then don't watch it. No one is a bad person for enjoying a fucking anime, Jesus man. I hate Gigguk for making that retarded phrase popular. It degrades both anime as a medium and the people enjoying it. It just means "it's okay to have guilty pleasures and enjoy even stuff that would be seen as bad by most people", and that's true. You have Golden Boy in your favorites, you should know better. Try watching that in public with other people and calling it one of your favorites, that would do enough to prove my point (comedy gold as it is, it is absolutely trashy when it comes to brainless fanservice and characterization, and there's a lot of that in there). |
DanpmssJan 27, 2021 12:31 AM
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Danpmss said: BoguKamBek said: I hate Gigguk for making that retarded phrase popular. It degrades both anime as a medium and the people enjoying it. It just means "it's okay to have guilty pleasures and enjoy even stuff that would be seen as bad by most people", and that's true. You have Golden Boy in your favorites, you should know better. Try watching that in public with other people and calling it one of your favorites, that would do enough to prove my point (comedy gold as it is, it is absolutely trashy when it comes to brainless fanservice and characterization, and there's a lot of that in there). Yeah that's called judging and in no circumstances is that okay, my friend can say "I like bondage porn" to my face and I wouldn't degrade him or his fetish. If you have friends that will call you an incel for liking a fucking anime, then fuck those fake friends. Guilty pleasure? Why does something that I like but a lot of people don't HAVE to be a guilty pleasure? I mean, who decided that? That's just being insecure mate. "owahh I'm scared to say that I like Golden Boy in front of my friends, they'll call me stuff and I'll feel bad :'((((" BoguKamBek said: Arin-san said: How is this an incel show, you don't realize that YOU are the problem, saying "Anime is trash and so am I" isn't gonna help. Incel power fantasy lmfao people are allowed to like whatever the fuck they want without being called a derogatory term, if you can't handle the shit shown in this anime, then don't watch it. No one is a bad person for enjoying a fucking anime, Jesus man. I hate Gigguk for making that retarded phrase popular. It degrades both anime as a medium and the people enjoying it. I like Gigguk but sometimes he says the most idiotic shit I've ever heard, that phrase is one of that. Edgy anime fans who laugh at their own jokes must feel so great calling themselves and the medium they enjoy trash just to counter a person's argument on the internet, such sad fucks. |
I said keep your hands on the table |
Arin-san said: I like Gigguk but sometimes he says the most idiotic shit I've ever heard, that phrase is one of that. Edgy anime fans who laugh at their own jokes must feel so great calling themselves and the medium they enjoy trash just to counter a person's argument on the internet, such sad fucks. He's just another paid shill that doesn't even watch anime anymore and obsesses over vtubershit |
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BoguKamBek said: Danpmss said: It just means "it's okay to have guilty pleasures and enjoy even stuff that would be seen as bad by most people", and that's true. You have Golden Boy in your favorites, you should know better. Try watching that in public with other people and calling it one of your favorites, that would do enough to prove my point (comedy gold as it is, it is absolutely trashy when it comes to brainless fanservice and characterization, and there's a lot of that in there). Why would I watch something I like in public, period. No one will understand it when you listen to great masters of jazz like Davis, Mingus, Coltrane in the middle of the square, especially their unpopular works. Or start rambling about which plays of Shakespeare are great and which one are shit. Or why Legacy of Kain is amazing in many of it's aspects. In the end, there is no reason for me to show appreciation for any of my favorites among those who are not willing to listen, least of all randos on the street. And I find the phrases anime is trash and so am I and Anime was mistake distasteful and insincere because I find them neither funny nor truthful, even if you feel the work you enjoy is trashy. And just why should I think Golden Boy is trashy? There is much more to it than base erotic jokes, and those are great too. Just look at these things. The feelings behind the facial animations and expressions coupled with the breathing life of those wonderful voice actors and actresses that just have fun while doing it, the water painting backgrounds of Hiroshi Katou that remind me of the importance of simplicity and how it can evoke so many things, the motivations I get from watching Kintarou endlessly toil away to learn and understand so that we might come to better understandings... And I feel no fan service in the work. Same can be said about this one, it's trashy and edgy. but it does have something to offer other than that (it's not comedy gold though). You don't need to think of it as trashy if you genuinely enjoy it, and that's his point. Objectively speaking, whether you YOURSELF see it or not, there's a shit ton of over-the-top fanservice and poor character writing. Don't act like you didn't remember the motorcycle masturbation scene, that one went for quite long lol All those comedic and erotic interactions are legitimate ways to have fun for me. And I also found the character progressions and interactions wonderfully and delightfully simple. You don't need to have layered, contextual and important characterizations like that of Guts and Griffith or of Zhongda and Zilong. Those are wonderful too, but they do not make others less great that use simplicity, enjoyment and fun to perpetuate themselves. Then again, they are quirky and one-dimensional, and that works in favor for what they were going for in there, beautiful ladies interacting with a hard working fellow that is also a lucky pervert, in their respective work places. You may not recognize it, but the fact you are enjoying said content means you don't care for these elements in terms of writing and display either, and therefore is one and the same as Gigguk described in the video from which this quote came from. If you watched the video and not went just from that quote, you would see he is specifically more talking to people like you (and me) than this "Digibro mentality" towards anime and the comunity as a whole you are interpreting as and talking about. I had enough with that kind of pseudo elitism, tbh, but that may just be me assuming things about you, too, so I won't tackle on that further. Arin-san said: Danpmss said: It just means "it's okay to have guilty pleasures and enjoy even stuff that would be seen as bad by most people", and that's true. You have Golden Boy in your favorites, you should know better. Try watching that in public with other people and calling it one of your favorites, that would do enough to prove my point (comedy gold as it is, it is absolutely trashy when it comes to brainless fanservice and characterization, and there's a lot of that in there). Yeah that's called judging and in no circumstances is that okay, my friend can say "I like bondage porn" to my face and I wouldn't degrade him or his fetish. If you have friends that will call you an incel for liking a fucking anime, then fuck those fake friends. Guilty pleasure? Why does something that I like but a lot of people don't HAVE to be a guilty pleasure? I mean, who decided that? That's just being insecure mate. "owahh I'm scared to say that I like Golden Boy in front of my friends, they'll call me stuff and I'll feel bad :'((((" The heck are you even talking about in here lol I'm just giving an example on how your every day people would see that content as, not doing a statement about insecurity, I myself read ecchi/hentai in a full train going to work quite a few times in my life, I couldn't give a bigger shit about what people think, it was clearly a rhetorical example, miss me with those misinterpretations :v Guilty Pleasure as a term is just that, really, enjoying things that likely won't be appreciated by many other than a niche that has a thing for that sort of content. That goes for a lot of stuff, B-Movies, revenge/suffering/depression/edginess porn stories, actual porn/porn-like plots, comedy in general since it's so subjective, that may be subject of guilty pleasure of several different people that takes them with a grain of salt (Family Guy for one is quite infamous in discussions regarding the quality of the comedic content or lack of thereof, etc... (the list goes on) Not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you had to do to interpret what I said like that, but that's not the case at all. If you dislike the term, give me a better one that describes it more accurately, because that has nothing to do with what you just said. You are free to enjoy things unironically even if you know well they are bad in your own eyes, and you don't need to hide that fact from anyone either (hell, you can straight say you don't think they are any bad since they work for you, despite all of the elements that would likely make it as such being so apparent, just see of what the Fairy Tail fandom is composed of). I guess you are being insecure if you instead do so and don't admit your guilty pleasures, so you are getting that logic backwards. |
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| I laugh last cause you came to die the damage done the pain subsides etc etc Arin-san said: How is this an incel show, you don't realize that YOU are the problem, saying "Anime is trash and so am I" isn't gonna help. Incel power fantasy lmfao people are allowed to like whatever the fuck they want without being called a derogatory term, if you can't handle the shit shown in this anime, then don't watch it. No one is a bad person for enjoying a fucking anime, Jesus man. based. OP you're on the right track, but your self flagellation is unwarranted and I think you know it. This show is above average (whatever that says about anime as a whole is up to you), it's fine, and frankly Keyaru thus far is a perfectly sympathetic protagonist albeit appealing to a slightly darker part of humanity than the average. Let's not pretend that Flare didn't have worse coming. Vandell said: I think it's worth self-analyzing why you like it, because this isn't just trash, it's trash that's trying to tell you that hating women is valid. Do you like it because it's basically porn? Okay.. that's weird, but fine, people like what they like, right? ..do you like it because it's cathartic? Maybe, just maybe, you have some deep-seated beliefs you need to come to terms with.. ..or should probably stop lying about. Completely ignoring the context of what's happening, what they did to him, you know, the whole REVENGE element to conveniently frame it as if Keyaru is wantonly raping innocent women for fun. Expected from low IQ internet feminists like you, but pathetic nevertheless. I wonder how you feel about all the ultra violent rape revenge stories out there starring women. Not like it needs to be morally righteous to make for perfectly fine entertainment. Full on villainous rape fantasy is vanilla as fuck, hardly any worse than any other violent escapist fantasy that hundreds of millions of perfectly moral people engage in whether they're open with it or not. |
MaiBudichesJan 28, 2021 11:06 PM
| as much as i wanted this show to be well written with alot of thought put into it's characters and story i still can't bring myself to hate it, it's quite enjoyable tbh. and idk why people are whining about it bc this is nothing compared to the shit you'll see in hentai and manga. |
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