| Can't comment as I haven't seen it. It's on my Plan to watch list because of UFO Table and Yuki Kajiura music though. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
| this year has another season remaining, it's to early to claim that. |
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| Not even close Wait for Fall a lot of good shits in that season Not another shounen on AOTY pls stop we need some romcom like Kaguya Sama |
SOP-IIAug 16, 2019 10:17 PM
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| It's a good anime imo,good animation,characters,story etc... But in all honesty it won't win AOTY |
| no description boi |
| Best shounen anime? Yeah, I think you could make that argument. Best anime period? Nah. I still think The Promised Neverland and Dororo were better anime and for me, the jury is still out on a few series like Fruits Basket and Carole and Tuesday. To be perfectly blunt, it’s going to be damn near impossible for any anime to top AoT Season 3 Part 2...and that’s a phrase I never would have thought I’d utter in my lifetime. I think I even like Shield Hero more even though I’d say that Demon Slayer is an objectively better anime. |
angelk99 said: cockblockpolice said: man just ignore these idiots who claim AOT as the AOTY im fine and agree with either MOB or TPN, but seriously AOT HAVE NO CHANCE. aot = another overrated title kimetsu deserves at least the best animation of the year believe me, after ep 19 things will become more interesting Lol, you are talking shit about AoT on every forum. A classic show like FMAB having retarded fans like you is very depressing. I mean, did you expect high-level criticism from someone named “cockblockpolice?” Just screams of dedicated, professional internet troll. |
| Ooh nice! another anime derived from basic literature, there's plenty of shounen where that came from. It appears as if Japan is out of ideas already. |
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Barnald said: Thread moved from Anime Discussion Oh great moderator, why did you move this thread here... *sigh* Now I'm going to post something that will lure in the haters, then I'd be stuck on this forum again (when I'm getting busy too, *cries*) Anime of the Year ... *sigh* Look guys, I'm a big fan of Kimetsu no Yaiba but I'm ok with you guys disagreeing that it should be AOTY, I genuinely think Mob Psycho s2 is a strong contender. But seriously, Vinland Saga? *facepalm* I don't know why this anime is hyped at all? Probably because the manga has some good content later? At episode 6, I honestly think it's mediocre at best. It had such a prime plot point to pull at the viewer's emotions (you know what I'm talking about), but it was so poorly executed. There was so much more emotion drawn out in one episode of KNY (the first) compared to four episodes of Vinland Saga? How do you waste so much screen time and yet fail to get your viewers to emotionally invest in a character? I'm sorry if I offend the manga fans but seriously, you must admit the first six episodes of Vinland saga was executed quite poorly. AOT s3. *sigh* AOT had 2.5 seasons' worth of screen time to develop viewers' emotional attachment to the characters and development to the story. It's not even a level playing field to begin with. In any case, just evaluating both series without accounting for these differences, the animation, the flow, the use of soundtrack in KNY is obviously better. The Promised Neverland... Let's not pretend kids living peaceful lives in an isolated environment which are later revealed to be "farmed" for consumption is a new premise. The Island? Never Let Me Go? The Matrix? So the best we can say about Neverland's premise is that it's new on anime (which may or may not be true, I might not have watched enough anime). Now let's look at the art and overall execution. Was it groundbreaking? Not really, the final twist about the "Mother" and her flashback, the protagonists' final ploy, those were pretty good plot twists. But overall, I don't think it deserves AOTY, given that the story became pretty slow in the middle and the art and soundtrack weren't exactly groundbreaking. |
ShanAsuna said: honestly I disagree with you here on vinland saga being mediocore and honestly feel that is the case with Demon slayer. The only aspects that make it better than others are the animation and soundtrack and Without any offense , In my opinion Episode 4 in vinland saga is much better than episode 19 and the anime as a whole .Also as for the animation , I do feel that animation makes an anime better but that isn't neccessary for a good episode ,For example Episode 3 of attack on Titan S3 part 2 didn't have any fights just character interaction and dialogue and it's the 2nd best AOT episode and the top 3 Episodes in IMDB where as Demon slayer episode 19 only good thing is the last 5 mins and animation its soundtrack so Imo the only reason this anime is getting this much hype and ratings is purely because of the animation and that is enough to say that it's the only reedeming quality for this series Barnald said: Thread moved from Anime Discussion Oh great moderator, why did you move this thread here... *sigh* Now I'm going to post something that will lure in the haters, then I'd be stuck on this forum again (when I'm getting busy too, *cries*) Anime of the Year ... *sigh* Look guys, I'm a big fan of Kimetsu no Yaiba but I'm ok with you guys disagreeing that it should be AOTY, I genuinely think Mob Psycho s2 is a strong contender. But seriously, Vinland Saga? *facepalm* I don't know why this anime is hyped at all? Probably because the manga has some good content later? At episode 6, I honestly think it's mediocre at best. It had such a prime plot point to pull at the viewer's emotions (you know what I'm talking about), but it was so poorly executed. There was so much more emotion drawn out in one episode of KNY (the first) compared to four episodes of Vinland Saga? How do you waste so much screen time and yet fail to get your viewers to emotionally invest in a character? I'm sorry if I offend the manga fans but seriously, you must admit the first six episodes of Vinland saga was executed quite poorly. AOT s3. *sigh* AOT had 2.5 seasons' worth of screen time to develop viewers' emotional attachment to the characters and development to the story. It's not even a level playing field to begin with. In any case, just evaluating both series without accounting for these differences, the animation, the flow, the use of soundtrack in KNY is obviously better. The Promised Neverland... Let's not pretend kids living peaceful lives in an isolated environment which are later revealed to be "farmed" for consumption is a new premise. The Island? Never Let Me Go? The Matrix? So the best we can say about Neverland's premise is that it's new on anime (which may or may not be true, I might not have watched enough anime). Now let's look at the art and overall execution. Was it groundbreaking? Not really, the final twist about the "Mother" and her flashback, the protagonists' final ploy, those were pretty good plot twists. But overall, I don't think it deserves AOTY, given that the story became pretty slow in the middle and the art and soundtrack weren't exactly groundbreaking. |
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Revoltage1022 said: honestly I disagree with you here on vinland saga being mediocore and honestly feel that is the case with Demon slayer. The only aspects that make it better than others are the animation and soundtrack and Without any offense , In my opinion Episode 4 in vinland saga is much better than episode 19 and the anime as a whole .Also as for the animation , I do feel that animation makes an anime better but that isn't neccessary for a good episode ,For example Episode 3 of attack on Titan S3 part 2 didn't have any fights just character interaction and dialogue and it's the 2nd best AOT episode and the top 3 Episodes in IMDB where as Demon slayer episode 19 only good thing is the last 5 mins and animation its soundtrack so Imo the only reason this anime is getting this much hype and ratings is purely because of the animation and that is enough to say that it's the only reedeming quality for this series The creators of anime expresses themselves by sight (animation) and sound (soundtrack, and voice acting). So if those things don't make an anime... I guess you're talking about the story, the plot. *Spoilers ahead* Well, I don't see how Vinland Saga episode 4 had such a great story or plot to salvage its mediocre art and soundtrack. It's technically Lion King isn't it? Mufasa died from betrayal in an attempt to save his son, Simba? But notice the emotional impact of Mufasa's death as compared to Thors? That's what I'm talking about. The lacklustre presentation of critical, emotional plot points ruined Vinland Saga (at least up to episode 6). In any case, if we're rating anime based on its story/plot/writing alone, it wouldn't even be an anime anymore. It's a novel. Even manga ratings rely on the quality of its artwork. That's not the sole factor of evaluation, of course, but it's a very crucial one. |
ShanAsunaAug 17, 2019 2:13 AM
| MP100 s2 is still AOTY for me, while KnY is animation of the year for me. Mob's animation is just as good as KnY's BUT the visuals is not as beautiful as KnY's. |
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Jfs_ said: MP100 s2 is still AOTY for me, while KnY is animation of the year for me. Mob's animation is just as good as KnY's BUT the visuals is not as beautiful as KnY's. I agree. But I don't know, maybe my love for Ufotable art just tips me in the other direction. |
ShanAsuna said: For the Vinland Saga stuff it would be pointless to argue since we have different tastes so let's agree to disagree here ,however for the animation stuff , Let me ask you a question , If you ask anyone who's watched episode 19 of Demon Slayer what was so great about episode 19 everyone will say the animation of the last fight and the soundtrack If I am not mistaken. That's the only good thing that the anime has. So my point is just because an anime has great fighting animation it doesn't neccessarily make it great show . The story, Characters , Development , Plot , Dialogue These are all what makes a show great , That's in my opinion Of course . I feel that Demon Slayer lacks in all these aspects which makes it a mediocre shounen . Revoltage1022 said: honestly I disagree with you here on vinland saga being mediocore and honestly feel that is the case with Demon slayer. The only aspects that make it better than others are the animation and soundtrack and Without any offense , In my opinion Episode 4 in vinland saga is much better than episode 19 and the anime as a whole .Also as for the animation , I do feel that animation makes an anime better but that isn't neccessary for a good episode ,For example Episode 3 of attack on Titan S3 part 2 didn't have any fights just character interaction and dialogue and it's the 2nd best AOT episode and the top 3 Episodes in IMDB where as Demon slayer episode 19 only good thing is the last 5 mins and animation its soundtrack so Imo the only reason this anime is getting this much hype and ratings is purely because of the animation and that is enough to say that it's the only reedeming quality for this series The creators of anime expresses themselves by sight (animation) and sound (soundtrack, and voice acting). So if those things don't make an anime... I guess you're talking about the story, the plot. *Spoilers ahead* Well, I don't see how Vinland Saga episode 4 had such a great story or plot to salvage its mediocre art and soundtrack. It's technically Lion King isn't it? Mufasa died from betrayal in an attempt to save his son, Simba? But notice the emotional impact of Mufasa's death as compared to Thors? That's what I'm talking about. The lacklustre presentation of critical, emotional plot points ruined Vinland Saga (at least up to episode 6). In any case, if we're rating anime based on its story/plot/writing alone, it wouldn't even be an anime anymore. It's a novel. Even manga ratings rely on the quality of its artwork. That's not the sole factor of evaluation, of course, but it's a very crucial one. |
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Lel0uchZer0 said: DanLikesAnimu said: Demon slayer best anime of 2019????? Look man demon slayer had one good episode It is nothing compared to attack on titan, mob psycho, dororo, kaguya sama , promised neverland, bungou stray dogs , vinland saga or dr stone Demon slayers is enjoyable but for the love of god it's not even close to anime of the yer It wasn't just one good episode. The incredible art, soundtrack, smooth transition between action and emotional scenes have been consistent since episode 1. I've explained why the other animes (except Mob Psycho s2) are not AOTY material, but you've raised some more, so let's address them: 1. Dororo Art and soundtrack, nothing comparable to KNY. But then again, nothing released in 2019 is comparable to KNY on those two fronts. The main storyline is quite interesting, but there are plenty of episodes that just involved the protagonist fighting monsters. It's a decent anime, but not spectacular in terms of art, soundtrack, or plot. 2. Kaguya sama love is war I really liked this anime. I like comedy in general, but normally comedy animes don't make AOTY. It lacks the adrenaline and potential for studios to show off their animation skills. If anything is enjoyable, but not AOTY material, it's Kaguya. 3. Bungou stray dogs s3 Oh I really like Bungou. The artwork, the nice action scenes, the array of intensely likable characters... it reminds me a little of Durarara!!! But unfortunately, this is the series that's actually deserving of the word "asspull" in certain instances. A lot of the powers used and choices made by characters don't make sense... *Spoilers* For example, Fitzgerald's come-back episode with the silly court case, how Dazai found Fyodor in the end, how Rando's ability was able to subdue Chuya in the beginning but fall to Chuya when he needed to from good old shounen power up. I can go on, but yea... I love this anime, so I just tune out my skeptical voice to enjoy the show, but it's not masterpiece level. In any case, it's not fair to judge an anime with two preceding seasons against a fresh new one, which didn't have the same time to build its story, premise, and emotional attachment to its characters (as I've mentioned for AOT) I've never watched Dr. Stone so I can't comment on that one. If I have time I'll give it a watch. But it's rated 8.4 on IMDB with 700+ voters, and 8.2 on MAL with <50k voters. That's not a good sign, generally. |
Lel0uchZer0 said: 1st of all bungo has no asspulls(as much as possible xD)...it's one of the few animes that always made sense (tho it usually comes to dazai predicting everything) Also imdb and mal are not really good sites for anime rating (imdb is really trash-code geass has lower scores than dbz or naruro ffs) Mal is good at times but there is no way kimetsu deserves higher score than vinland saga and so so close to death note. I am no fan of death note but that anime is so much better objectively speaking (L and Light have more characterization in 2 seconds of screen time compared to the whole kimetsu cast). For me kimetsu is a less enjoyable my hero academia with no todoroki ... it's a good anime with unbelieveable art and animation , good ost (tho not as good as a lot of other anime) but extremely little depth,plain characters and poorly placed flashbacks. I apreciate that you actually had a good discussion instead of dickriding kimetsu like all faboys did until now I respect the fact that you actually read through what I wrote, but I disagree that Bungou has minimal asspulls. Yes, the most prominent one is Dazai predicting everything. But Chuuya's instantaneous power-up to beat Rando in the end also didn't make sense, other than "it's time to power up, it's a shounen, let's go". I've pointed out others and I can point out a lot more but I finished the three seasons some time ago. Vinland Saga deserves to be above KNY? Now this I can't agree with, not the slightest bit. Perhaps you read the manga and that's fuelling your opinion. I'm not a manga reader and the first six episodes were mediocre and consistently missed the mark in terms of drawing in the viewers' emotions. For me, a scene is good if it gives me goosebumps or have me in tears (or at least the verge of tears). Vinland saga had many opportunities to do that, but failed at every point. *smh* Death Note. It's pretty good. Very interesting premise, a notebook that kills. Nice contrast of protagonists (always thought one of the mangas in Bakuman is talking about Death Note), but I personally didn't like the soundtrack or the artwork that much. It was good, but not the best for me personally. |
ShanAsunaAug 17, 2019 3:01 AM
| Wouldn't say its AOTY yet, mine's still on Mob S2, but it deserves (Episode Of The Year) EOTY, if such a catgeory exists lol. |
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Lel0uchZer0 said: I did not read the manga for vinland saga but they got the first 6 episodes perfectly . I felt every emotion thorfinn had and they also nailed thors' death as well as askeladd's character. Well, I think we can agree to disagree on that because I have the exact opposite view. My favorite character in KNY is actually Zenitsu. People hate him for being loud (doesn't that just apply to every shounen protagonist?) but I like the contrast in his character. The fact that he's an ostensibly useless crybaby but he's actually honed incredible skills and just lacks confidence. I like Tanjiro as well, for his stubborn kindness, Inosuke, for his crazy antics (I think his backstory may be interesting), and Nezuko the sweet dumpling of a demon... the theme of familial bond is just very well done, in my view. |
Lel0uchZer0 said: Yeah i see where you're coming from Btw i checked you profile and i saw you are a lelouch fan so all the love and respect to you man All hail lelouch I can't wait to watch the movie, Fukkatsu no lelouch... Best anime for me is a tough tie between Code Geass and FMAB... Fate Zero a close second, even though animation by Ufotable is stunning... |
| Lol no, the only good thing about it is the animation. From this season, Dr Stone is a million time better shounen. Vinland Saga has the potential to be AOTY. |
ShanAsuna said: im agree if its the animation, but for ost i still prefer AOT. dont get me wrong i love yuki kajiura as well, but in this comparison ill choose aot over knyBarnald said: Thread moved from Anime Discussion AOT s3. *sigh* AOT had 2.5 seasons' worth of screen time to develop viewers' emotional attachment to the characters and development to the story. It's not even a level playing field to begin with. In any case, just evaluating both series without accounting for these differences, the animation, the flow, the use of soundtrack in KNY is obviously better. . |
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zalapeno said: im agree if its the animation, but for ost i still prefer AOT. dont get me wrong i love yuki kajiura as well, but in this comparison ill choose aot over kny I loved AOT when it came out. I had Guren no Yumiya on loop for a couple of weeks, I think. But I'm just tired of the writer not concluding the story. I hate long running animes, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter, Fairy Tail... I know they've got a huge cult following, but once an anime refuses to end, it just puts me off big time. It feels like I'm being taken for an unnecessarily convoluted ride. *shrugs* |
| Btw, for people who still thinks ep 19 was a one-hit wonder for KNY. Just FYI, reviewers have been heaping praise on the series way before ep 19. Case in point, Glass Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3h_S-xRnz4 |
andersonguildbz said: kimetsu no yaba in best anime 2019 Be prepared for people trying to convince you why it's not |
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ShanAsuna said: umm i dont think so, aot somewhat different to those u mentioned. aot has only 120 chapters of now, and kny is 130+ and i guess you will get tired as well with kny when it adapted more chapters because kny should have more episodes than aot did. aot already in the final arc and about to finish in a year and i dont think the author refuses to end, its necessary to concluded all the mystery imozalapeno said: im agree if its the animation, but for ost i still prefer AOT. dont get me wrong i love yuki kajiura as well, but in this comparison ill choose aot over kny I loved AOT when it came out. I had Guren no Yumiya on loop for a couple of weeks, I think. But I'm just tired of the writer not concluding the story. I hate long running animes, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter, Fairy Tail... I know they've got a huge cult following, but once an anime refuses to end, it just puts me off big time. It feels like I'm being taken for an unnecessarily convoluted ride. *shrugs* |
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zalapeno said: ShanAsuna said: umm i dont think so, aot somewhat different to those u mentioned. aot has only 120 chapters of now, and kny is 130+ and i guess you will get tired as well with kny when it adapted more chapters because kny should have more episodes than aot did. aot already in the final arc and about to finish in a year and i dont think the author refuses to end, its necessary to concluded all the mystery imoI loved AOT when it came out. I had Guren no Yumiya on loop for a couple of weeks, I think. But I'm just tired of the writer not concluding the story. I hate long running animes, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter, Fairy Tail... I know they've got a huge cult following, but once an anime refuses to end, it just puts me off big time. It feels like I'm being taken for an unnecessarily convoluted ride. *shrugs* Even though I love KNY and it has my personal vote for AOTY, I have no doubt, if KNY refuses to end, I would soon get tired of it. Especially given the fact that the more seasons you have, the more likely you end up with a studio that's going to screw it up. |
ShanAsunaAug 17, 2019 8:33 AM
AlphaOmegaKnight said: Thanjh said: Definitely not people are just hyping it up after episode 19 Same It's overrated imo. People are just hyping it up after episode 19 makes perfecy sense Funny coming from someone handing out 10s like there's no tomorrow. |
| Claiming any series was the best of 2019 is foolish, everyone has a different taste, for me no it's not, honestly as much as i like kimetsu no yaiba, even with it's flaws i stilll prefer shield hero and kanata no astra more. |
-Aincrad- said: andersonguildbz said: kimetsu no yaba in best anime 2019 Be prepared for people trying to convince you why it's not And that’s the tea |
| It's not dude Episode 19 was not even that Great story-wise It was good , but nothing great , the only great thing was the Art , Idk how the f*ck is got that much attention |
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Edylson said: -Aincrad- said: Be prepared for people trying to convince you why it's not Be prepared to not give a damn what people have to say Be prepared to read reputable reviews by people whose job is to review animes rather than forum comments. |
mafd12 said: Episode 19 was splendid, but that doesn't make KnY an AOTY, not even a contender; it was a really good episode, but this year there's been much more constant and solid series, so I doubt it. Maybe if it maintains this level for the rest of the season it could be an AOTY contender, otherwise not. My question is if we exclude the the last 3 minutes of episode 19 from episode 19 would it had stand out from the previous 18 episodes? Because the only thing I'm hearing is about the last 3 minutes of episode 19 and how godly it was, I don't hear anyone talking about the beginning of the episode or the middle portion, there is no other mention of no other part of that episode except for the last 3 minutes of episode 19 how can people say it is the best episode of the season or even go as far as calling this the best anime of the year because of the last 3 minutes of episode 19? you notice the pattern I am going with? It has a shout for best animation episode, no doubt about it, the last 3 minutes was fantastic, but no way in hell does this qualify for being the best episode of the year, just because of the last 3 minutes of episode 19. In comparison episode 5 of snk part 2, "hero" is not number 1 on imdb for no reason, that episode was great throughout the episode and not just the last 3 minutes of that episode It had everything, you have the beast titan vs levi in the first part of that episode and then you have the scouts vs the Collosal and Armored titan on the second half of that episode and then it had that godly ending in the 3 minutes of that episode as well My point is, the entire episode has to be consistently good to make it a contender, last 3 minutes doesn't qualify. |
| Easily and it's not even close. I been saying this since March and they laughed at me, they called me a madman, now after episode 19 everyone is on the bandwagon. |
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Superns18 said: Easily and it's not even close. I been saying this since March and they laughed at me, they called me a madman, now after episode 19 everyone is on the bandwagon. I know right. I'd love to offer you a high-five for this but more importantly... Brace for impact, here come the trolls! |
keragamming said: mafd12 said: Episode 19 was splendid, but that doesn't make KnY an AOTY, not even a contender; it was a really good episode, but this year there's been much more constant and solid series, so I doubt it. Maybe if it maintains this level for the rest of the season it could be an AOTY contender, otherwise not. My question is if we exclude the the last 3 minutes of episode 19 from episode 19 would it had stand out from the previous 18 episodes? Because the only thing I'm hearing is about the last 3 minutes of episode 19 and how godly it was, I don't hear anyone talking about the beginning of the episode or the middle portion, there is no other mention of no other part of that episode except for the last 3 minutes of episode 19 how can people say it is the best episode of the season or even go as far as calling this the best anime of the year because of the last 3 minutes of episode 19? you notice the pattern I am going with? It has a shout for best animation episode, no doubt about it, the last 3 minutes was fantastic, but no way in hell does this qualify for being the best episode of the year, just because of the last 3 minutes of episode 19. In comparison episode 5 of snk part 2, "hero" is not number 1 on imdb for no reason, that episode was great throughout the episode and not just the last 3 minutes of that episode It had everything, you have the beast titan vs levi in the first part of that episode and then you have the scouts vs the Collosal and Armored titan on the second half of that episode and then it had that godly ending in the 3 minutes of that episode as well My point is, the entire episode has to be consistently good to make it a contender, last 3 minutes doesn't qualify. Here is the progress of KNY anime through each episodes according to the time I gather my information about it and wrote it. Serial No. --------------- 5 out of 5 Ep.1 ----------------------65.63% Ep.2 ----------------------69.45% Ep.3 ----------------------69.74% Ep.4 ----------------------86.72% Ep.5 ----------------------74.36% Ep.6 ----------------------75.61% Ep.7 ----------------------84.25% Ep.8 ----------------------79.52% Ep.9 ----------------------72.41% Ep.10 ---------------------72.31% Ep.11 ---------------------50.18% Ep.12 ---------------------70.27% Ep.13 ---------------------66.32% Ep.14 ---------------------66.18% Ep.15 ---------------------65.05% Ep.16 ---------------------82.40% Ep.17 ---------------------83.51% Ep.18 ---------------------83.15% Ep.19 ---------------------97.09% Average ------------------74.43% Actually the rating of KNY was increasing slowly from sometime even before episode 19 came out but a sudden increase from 8.51 to 8.65 came due to ep.19(more likely due to a Sakuga scene as you said). |
puneetsinghAug 17, 2019 10:27 AM
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
| its in the top5 for me. just watched ep20. |
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