| UN tried to outright ban loli's https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/02/u-n-proposes-initiative-to-ban-loli-shota-and-underage-drawings-and-cartoons/77229/ Reddit banned loli content https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/02/reddit-bans-adult-loli-subs-new-game-anime-sub-for-featuring-suggestive-content-involving-minors/76652/ Those outside of anime community often avoid anime and ridicule it because of them. Then there are those that accuse loli's of KILLING Anime! Which makes me wonder, Why is there so much hate for lolis? Are lolis really that bad?  |
| The mighty loli are feared by those who are weaker |
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| It's not against lolis it's against porn |
| child porn is related to lolis thats why |
| Obviously lolis themselves aren't the problem, it's the sick neckbeards that jack off to little girl loli hentai that are the problem. These people are the ones people are wary of. We all know that there is at least a few disgusting people out there who got into child porn with loli hentai being the gateway because they have no grip on reality. These people are a vast, VAST minority. However, when it comes to this kind of thing, people have the mindset of "If it can prevent just one ____". That's why people dont like it. 99.9% of people who like loli stuff are not pedophiles. The people against it are scared of the 0.1%. |
CreativeNam3Aug 5, 2019 1:16 PM
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| The U.N. tried not to ban lolis per se but tried to ban loli pornography — having said that of course lolis themselves are controversial too since they are often sexualized even if not pornographic. It's pretty obvious why: moral panic pædo scare. I am unsure about laws but I know that in my social circles I have no real fear. Just a couple of days back I was watching loli porn with my aunt and his associate and whist the aunt declined to look but nevertheless was not judgemental the associate entertained a look and was like "Very well, I am interested in seeing what this loli porn exactly is about."; wasn't his taste but he wasn't offended either. All three of us agree that even actual child pornography possession but not the production thereof should be legal. I have never noticed the Anglo-Saxon pædophile moral panic in the Netherlands but I definitely see plenty of it on the internet amongst Anglo-Saxons that get completely irrational over it; even an English friend of mine whom I absolutely adore outside of it gets quite irrational about the subject but can at least recognize that his feelings are irrational; Anglo-Saxon culture just has this irrational attitude towards the subject. Well I guess my old man had an associate for a while that shows signs of uncomfortable irrationality regarding the subject but not my old man himself wherewith the subject can be rationally debated. |
 It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Because there are not enough cultured individuals on this planet |
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HaXXspetten said: Though I must admit I mind not the "longleg loli" whatsoever though the "largebreast loli" is an abomination.Because there are not enough cultured individuals on this planet The loli is refined minimalism, none of these vile "curves". |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Xstasy said: In the history of anime and the history of crazily-exaggerated hyperbole of anime commentary, fifty million different things have been accused of "killing" anime.Then there are those that accuse loli's of KILLING Anime! |
GlennMagusHarveyAug 5, 2019 4:01 AM
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| Basically Japanese cultural influence is too strong and it just happens to hit home with native English speakers. If internet dominance sits with Chinese language as a primary language then we wouldn't even be having this sort of discussion in first place. Everyone has their own opinion but Japanese specifically aims to increase their population hence the cute childlike characters. |
AnimeFeminist said: ugmon said: child porn is related to lolis thats why Cartoons are not a childporn learn the difference. tell that to the politicians lol like the United Nations |
| Lolis are an innocent symptom of the real problem: Japan's acceptance of pedophilia |
| Depends though. Ok I know that sounds horrible but hear me out. I've seen regular hentai porn being tagged as loli simply because the characters are in that 'cute' style and act innocent, but their bodies are fully developed sometimes with very generously big breasts. When their bodies actually look like children's bodies though? Yeah the people who get off to them are pedos. |
AnimeFeminist said: Oh some do.Rinoael said: The same reason why furries are hated, people relate it to a bad paraphilia (lolis are considered a type of pedophilia even if it's just fiction) Don't mix furries and lolis. People who like lolis don't dress as them and have their own lolisona. AnimeFeminist said: That would depend on one's jurisdiction — in Sweden and the U.K. they are for instance.ugmon said: child porn is related to lolis thats why Cartoons are not a childporn learn the difference. AnimeFeminist said: So what's your opinion on c.g.i. photorealistic child porn wherewith not a single actual human minor was involved?Blarey said: Because they are often sexualized and unfortunately a lot of people don't understand the difference between real life and fiction. There is nothing wrong with sexualization of lolis they are just drawings on a peace of paper. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| People don't just like when someone finds children attractive. Crazy, right? ... it isn't that hard to concept, but i guess this is troll ^^ |
| Because these sjw fuckers can't accept what other people like or what other cultures are like. They just want to impose their beliefs on other people and the people who hate lolis are same. They can't even differentiate between real and fictional. |
 "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." |
| bc people don't know the difference between a normal 6 yo girl and a digital draw. yes. |
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| Uhh because yada yada children blah blah pedophilia lalalala weak arguments... Actually, let's just skip to the real reason this thread was made:  |
ZekkenshinAug 5, 2019 5:04 AM
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Bayek said: Everyday We Stray Further From God's Light.Uhh because yada yada children blah blah pedophilia lalalala weak arguments... Actually, let's just skip to the real reason this thread was made: |
RunningWild85 said: thevagus said: Because these sjw fuckers can't accept what other people like or what other cultures are like. They just want to impose their beliefs on other people and the people who hate lolis are same. They can't even differentiate between real and fictional. So Japan's culture revolves around pseudo child pornography, wtf. Japs love big titties more than they do loli if we have to be honest here. Only creepy otakus like those. And to be quite frank, most of those weird Japanese Otakus can not differentiate fiction from reality, wow. Japan's culture doesn't revolve around lolis but anime and otaku related stuff which is subculture of japan does have a lot of influence by loli characters. Also, japan has one of the lowest crime rate on planet so are we gonna teach them how to handle crime? It is also widely known that cuteness is preferred over hotness(i.e. big titties) in japan. Also, why do you even watch anime if you are just gonna look down on those otakus? |
"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." |
| Its not lolis themselves that are being hated here, its the suggestive or even sexual content involving them which is messed up here, and kinda normalizes pedophilia by calling it a different name; "lolicon" You know its bad when some people (while being a crazy minority) proudly call themselves lolicons This kind of stuff make people even more afraid of anythinging involving lolis even when its just fine |
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| Because some people like to impose real life moral values on drawings. I don't quite get why and why it's so selective (eg. it's okay to massacre a city, even if it includes very same lolis, but if you lewd a loli it's a big no suddenly). I prefer just live and let live approach as long as no harm is done others in the process. Lolis fit this so I see no problem with them. Unfortunately many people seems unable to grasp this concept, as much as our world could be much better in so many aspect if they did. |
| People don't hate lolis They hate sexualizing lolis Like Shiro in the Video , her butt shows like half of the anime |
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thevagus said: RunningWild85 said: So Japan's culture revolves around pseudo child pornography, wtf. Japs love big titties more than they do loli if we have to be honest here. Only creepy otakus like those. And to be quite frank, most of those weird Japanese Otakus can not differentiate fiction from reality, wow. Japan's culture doesn't revolve around lolis but anime and otaku related stuff which is subculture of japan does have a lot of influence by loli characters. Also, japan has one of the lowest crime rate on planet so are we gonna teach them how to handle crime? It is also widely known that cuteness is preferred over hotness(i.e. big titties) in japan. Also, why do you even watch anime if you are just gonna look down on those otakus? Who are we? I'm not even American. Isn't the crime rate so low because prosecutors only take the cases they are certain they can win, and because these testimonies get extracted (sometimes violently) in a set day period (23 days) from the very first plausible suspects they can find? Meaning who exactly did it doesn't matter as long as there are results. It is also widely known that cuteness is preferred over hotness(i.e. big titties) in japan. You have a lethal flaw in your reasoning! Moeblobs already exist, and they show that big oppai onee-sans can be just as, if even more cute, than their flat counterparts. For example, and her; Also, why do you even watch anime if you are just gonna look down on those otakus? Cause I like anime for anime and not for the fanbase itself? I don't understand your logic here? |
removed-userAug 5, 2019 5:48 AM
| If anything people trying to ban loli porn are actually saving lolis. It's people who sexualize lolis who are in the wrong and getting rid of the NSFW content surrounding lolis is doing the world a favour. Lolis are pure and should be enjoyed without being lewded. |
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| Because lolis are cancer, that's why. Some people, like Digibro, are very disturbing. |
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zombie_pegasus said: You bourgeois plebian, have you no culture?If anything people trying to ban loli porn are actually saving lolis. It's people who sexualize lolis who are in the wrong and getting rid of the NSFW content surrounding lolis is doing the world a favour. Lolis are pure and should be enjoyed without being lewded. Lolis should have wild sex with their sibling and make cute noises doing so. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Politicians are just happy to enforce thought crimes whenever the public is stupid enough to approve of it. It's frustrating as hell and I sincerely wish everyone who supports that kind of legislation that someday one of their hobbies/interests/fetishes/whatever is arbitrarily chosen and criminalized despite causing no harm to anyone ever. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Weaklings can't withstand the sight of drawings. |
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| I've seen that video already and it was really hard to take any of it seriously. Blarey said: Because they are often sexualized and unfortunately a lot of people don't understand the difference between real life and fiction. My thoughts exactly... |
RunningWild85 said: Who are we? I'm not even American. Isn't the crime rate so low because prosecutors only take the cases they are certain they can win, and because these testimonies get extracted (sometimes violently) in a set day period (23 days) from the very first plausible suspects they can find? Meaning who exactly did it doesn't matter as long as there are results. they do have a strict system maybe a bit darker than other countries but societal norms in japanese society are also strict which itself refrains people to commit crimes most of the times. You have a lethal flaw in your reasoning! Moeblobs already exist, and they show that big oppai onee-sans can be just as, if even more cute, than their flat counterparts. For example, and her; lolitas are big part of kawaii culture rather than big oppai onee-sans even if they are cute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii as you can see, kawaii is more about being innocent, adorable, shy and childlike rather than just being cute which even oppai onee-sans are. Cause I like anime for anime and not for the fanbase itself? I don't understand your logic here? You were saying how weird otakus are yet you also consume same kind of entertainment they do. |
"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." |
| Because people are brainwashed by crazed squeals of the "moral guardians". |
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| lolis are often depicted in sexual ways and many people straight up equate lolicon to pedophilia pedophilia is a big no no to many and its universally regarded as one of the worst degeneracy |
| Depends in the loli in my case, if it's a loli like Kanna or someone like that there's no problem, but when they make a character a loli just to have a loli in the story, or when the loli falls in love with her old brother, or when the loli is involved in some sex shit, or when the author covers the loli with "She is legal since she is almost 8000 years old". That's when the lolis are a problem. As a clear example, "Masamune-kun no Revenge", everyone considers the mom a loli and she is a loli but here we go again with the "she is 28 yo" excuse, they could just add a NORMAL mom for the main characters and it will be a lot better. Also say that I don't have problems at all when the loli characters are in the anime for an explained reason, for example "Karakai Jouzou no Takagi-san" is an anime about lolis and shoutas (aka KIDS) in their school years, so of course I will accept that since it's something normal and acceptable. But don't misunderstand me, I'm completly fine if there's underage porn, but only if the participants are all underage kids (Anyways I won't look that shit) since they are drawings, and underage real kids maybe want some porn to fap at. But when a loli or a shota is fuckin/fucked with/by a older woman/man, then I think that there's a problem. |
AlvaritoterreosAug 5, 2019 9:34 AM
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| I agree with that video sexualization of lolis is big no no for me. If they were to despair from anime no value would be lost, and reputation of anime might improve in the process Win Win. |
FluentLoveAug 5, 2019 9:42 AM
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Alvaritoterreos said: But when a loli or a shota is fuckin/fucked with/by a older woman/man, then I think that there's a problem. ^ I have no problem with the existence of lolis/shotas unless and until something like this scenario comes on screen. That's a huge no no. |
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thevagus said: Because these sjw fuckers can't accept what other people like or what other cultures are like. They just want to impose their beliefs on other people and the people who hate lolis are same. They can't even differentiate between real and fictional. That's exactly the problem. It's the same sjw fuckers who tried to kill Marvel Comics back in the 50s. "IT'S TOO VIOLENT; PEOPLE WILL IMITATE IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" They need to get a life. Or focus on actual problems which this is not. So if someone put a cartoon filter on real life underage naked girl will that be acceptable to look at? @TTagain: I would say no because it's involving a REAL girl; anything doing that is definitely a crime. It's like one step above live nude child model drawing which is illegal, for sure. |
ChiibiAug 5, 2019 10:22 AM
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| Because it's asssociated with CP, when in reality a loli has very little difference from a character that's considered "normal" since anime for the most part doesn't have art that is realistic enough to have any meaningful distinguishment the way real life does. Here's a loli Here's not a loli: Another loli: And another not loli: Does that seem arbitrary? If so great because it fucking should. |
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| Because dumb people think drawings and real human beings are the same thing. |
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Orhunaa said: This is a 10 year old I would marry:Because it's asssociated with CP, when in reality a loli has very little difference from a character that's considered "normal" since anime for the most part doesn't have art that is realistic enough to have any meaningful distinguishment the way real life does. Here's a loli Here's not a loli: Another loli: And another not loli: Does that seem arbitrary? If so great because it fucking should. This is a 10 year old I have zero attraction towards & instead would protect like a daughter: Wow, fuck. I'm trying to think of the difference here. It's almost like reality has no bearing on my anime fetishes. |
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| Hypocrites who believe it's sickly, are people who do not know how to differentiate reality from anime or cartoons. |
| I'm not a violent person at all but the title and thumbnail of that YouTube video brings something very primal and very aggressive out of me. If I ever met that guy in real life I would stuggle to hold back I swear to God. Just... so much. I don't want to type an essay right now but, to break it down: 1. Claiming moral superiority over others for things that have no bearing on the real world. If you have a problem with someone for something that hurts no one, because of some moral ideal system, you are a problem. 2. Most "loli" anime girls aren't children and aren't seen as such by many fans. I think this trend is reversing as more and more we are exposed to these people crying "pedophillia" because now we can't help but see these little anime girls as children in some ways. Ask yourself, was there not a time when you just saw a cute and sexy anime girl and not a 2D representation of real humans? Unfortunately this perception is dying out thanks to a certain mindset, leading me to the next point: 3. Negativity. Cynicism. There is a growing trend, exemplified by the extreme "everything is racist, sexist etc." type of SJW, for people to see "badness" in everything. And these people control the narrative because we respond more strongly to negative emotion than to positive. Overall, all this stuff is a poison on the community. It serves to seperate us and makes vulnerable people feel ashamed for enjoying things that brings no harm to anyone and in the vast, vast majority of cases has no connection to real pedophillia and child abuse. On that last point, I say real pedophillia, not because anime lolis are in anyway "fake" pedophillia (another misconception that is gaining ground) but because the of how fucked up western society has become when it comes to how we view sexuality of young girls. Fact is, for both genders, physical beauty peaks pretty young. There's nothing wrong with admiring the beauty of youth. But we have a society that acts as though it's somehow wrong even though the word "teen" has been among the top most searched words on porn sites since the start of the internet. Yet many guys live in shame, brainwashed in to thinking their perfectly natural urges are somehow wrong and makes them bad people. It is literally and 100% absurd. Then, that mindset, if it wasn't sad and depressing enough in the real world, seeps in to anime, where girls who could very easily be just petite 16-18 year olds (if we're gonna go the route of comparing anime girls to real girls) are called lolis and - most infuriating of all - those of us that think they are cute and sexy are called "pedophiles". Compared to people that are in to pre-pubescent children. Worse, indrectly compared to people that go so far as to abuse pubescent children. It's fucking sick that we have to put up with these comparisons. All of this so some over-sensitive, negative mindset, paranoid assholes can get on a self-serving, egotistical, moral superiority kick to make themselves feel better than others. Well fuck them. A punch in the face is a lot less than they deserve for the kind of joyless, judgmental shit they spread among a community of people just tring to enjoy art. I guess my original intentions to not write so much didn't really work out lol. Still, this stuff needs saying. |
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