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Jul 9, 2019 3:07 AM
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Same motif with Shield Hero but bad.
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Its similar but it has different concepts.
Jul 9, 2019 3:30 AM
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Not even close, Naofumi can't do raids if he has no attacker, this MC is your typical isekai OP mc where he doesnt really need a party but gets a harem just to get a tap at them.
Jul 9, 2019 3:39 AM
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Wait... shield hero isn't bad?
Jul 9, 2019 4:02 AM
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Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?
Jul 9, 2019 4:21 AM
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Jfs_ said:
Wait... shield hero isn't bad?

Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?

Asking the real questions
Jul 9, 2019 4:31 AM
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Jfs_ said:
Wait... shield hero isn't bad?

You might think it is, many there are many many people who liked it, and it's actually pretty popular

IMO it was really great, it's one of my favorites as well
Jul 9, 2019 4:37 AM
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Jfs_ said:
Wait... shield hero isn't bad?


Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


Imagine a world where people have different opinions. I know it's hard, but just try your best.
Jul 9, 2019 4:38 AM
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Tbh in this story edgelord MC actually starts off weak. In Shield Hero Naofumi was the most OP all along, we just had to accept his counterparts were retards. I feel like this one would've been a lot more fun if adapted better.
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Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


It is very good and one of the top 5 anime aired last season

ALso, your rating are strange. You give SLime and Re:Zero 10/10, but for some reason you give sheild Hero only 4/10 even though these 3 anime have a lot of similarities
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thepath said:
Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


It is very good and one of the top 5 anime aired last season

ALso, your rating are strange. You give SLime and Re:Zero 10/10, but for some reason you give sheild Hero only 4/10 even though these 3 anime have a lot of similarities

Wait, what? It’s pretty dumb your reply tho. Re:Zero, Slime and Tate are 3 different anime, with different characters, a different plot, and I could go on. The only thing they have in common is that they are Isekai, nothing more.
Jul 9, 2019 7:16 AM

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Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


People have different taste, that's all..
You maybe think shield hero is bad, but actually there are people who think it's an enjoyable anime, it might be hard for you to believe but it's true..
Jul 9, 2019 7:34 AM

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thepath said:
Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


It is very good and one of the top 5 anime aired last season

ALso, your rating are strange. You give SLime and Re:Zero 10/10, but for some reason you give sheild Hero only 4/10 even though these 3 anime have a lot of similarities


I go with him, in my opinion Slime and R:Z are better by far (writting) than TateYuusha.
For me

Tate 3-4/10
Slime 6/10
Re:Zero 8/10 (but I've see it in 2015 so possibly 7/10.

Crocospect22 said:
Xenocrisi said:
Are you implying that Shield Hero is good?


People have different taste, that's all..
You maybe think shield hero is bad, but actually there are people who think it's an enjoyable anime, it might be hard for you to believe but it's true..


And it can be bad even if some people like it. Who say that you can't like bad anime or manga ? I love Eden no Ori for exemple but it's not really good if you look at it.
Tate have lots of default, and doesn't have much qualities.. Even if you don't care about the bad writting or the lack of world building they still exist.



Btw I've read Arifureta and Tate and I prefer Arifureta. But it's the same level. There is no turn around whit Motoyasu or the princess. :p
I prefer manga for those two, in anime Tate have a better production by far.


(sorry for my english)
Jul 9, 2019 7:49 AM

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In both Tate and Arifureta, most male characters other than the MC are either jerks or mob characters, so those 2 are quite similar. Kenja no Mago is the only Isekai where the MC has male friends in his group that are the same age as him with multiple romantic pairings.
I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story.

We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine.
Jul 9, 2019 7:59 AM

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So similar!!!!! you nailed it
Jul 9, 2019 8:01 AM

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I wouldnt compare them too much but fine.
Both are generic,shitty guilty pleasure Isekai shows that i still somewhat enjoy.
Jul 9, 2019 8:02 AM

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Hajime had more guts than Naofumi who allowed those looking down on him just like that. He didn't even let the bitch princess die or made her suffer more, he just ignore her after the slight punishment, the same to the other heroes and the country people.

At least Hajime will made sure the people would all swore to never look down on him or oppose him while trembling in fear, heck he may even kill them right away without batting an eye. He made sure those who dare oppose him suffered.

But yeah Arifureta anime adaptation is trash compared to the LN, at least on the first episode so let's see it again later.
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a series where he congratulates the protagonist for humiliating to idiots, they recognize him as a hero just for forgiving their lives turning them into buffoons, constantly him get power up in the middle of the battle by triggering a hidden ability, or turning to the power of friendship., an external character is the one who cleans his name and people keep thinking that he effort(?

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Not even close, Naofumi can't do raids if he has no attacker, this MC is your typical isekai OP mc where he doesnt really need a party but gets a harem just to get a tap at them.


but after, became able to cast every ability imaginable, and to have enough firepower to defend himself.
Jul 9, 2019 8:20 AM
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Owh man the score, just got 6, this community sometimes really harsh. That score point really kill people mood who dont know aniting about this anime. Dont know why they give score low than 6. So much hardwork there. If u dont like it dont watch it. But the score influence others.
Jul 9, 2019 10:18 AM
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hu74n said:
If u dont like it dont watch it. But the score influence others.

That's dumb, how do you know that you don't like something if you don't watch it ?
And if after watching it, people see it's terrible they leave a bad score. What's the point of a score if only people who like the show can rate it.
Jul 9, 2019 10:29 AM
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Jfs_ said:
Wait... shield hero isn't bad?
if you're talking about the anime then yes it is but if you're talking about the LN then heck no. it's fucking great
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Fahim654 said:
Jfs_ said:
Wait... shield hero isn't bad?
if you're talking about the anime then yes it is but if you're talking about the LN then heck no. it's fucking great


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.
Jul 9, 2019 11:27 AM

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iz just so baddddddddd XDDDDDDDDDDd maybe Naofumi should go over to this anime's world and slap the every character in the face

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Jul 9, 2019 11:48 AM

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but after, became able to cast every ability imaginable, and to have enough firepower to defend himself.

Not really, he's just got some extra abilities, not really attack types, which is why he literally needed Raph in almost all his fights.
Jul 9, 2019 12:09 PM

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Killuan said:
Fahim654 said:
if you're talking about the anime then yes it is but if you're talking about the LN then heck no. it's fucking great


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.


I haven't read the source but the anime was pretty trash.
Jul 9, 2019 12:43 PM

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Danmachi x Shield Hero. It didn't disappoint.
Jul 9, 2019 12:58 PM

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Pixel_Vapour said:
Killuan said:


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.


I haven't read the source but the anime was pretty trash.

Regardless what you think of it, an Isekai that manages to stay positive 8 on MAL is a success considering how many people have a hate boner for Isekai. Compare that to arifureta that's sub-7 and people are taking a crap on it from the get-go. SH receives far more hate than it realistically should by an active minority of people. It's polarizing enough to bring out peoples need to shit on it I suppose.
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You might think it is, many there are many many people who liked it, and it's actually pretty popular

thepath said:
It is very good and one of the top 5 anime aired last season


Are you implying popularity equals quality?


-Stray said:
G0ldStark said:

but after, became able to cast every ability imaginable, and to have enough firepower to defend himself.

Not really, he's just got some extra abilities, not really attack types, which is why he literally needed Raph in almost all his fights.


>not really attack types
>he literally beat the shit out of a giant monster and the pope easily just with his REEEE power ups

KEK
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It is very good and one of the top 5 anime aired last season

ALso, your rating are strange. You give SLime and Re:Zero 10/10, but for some reason you give sheild Hero only 4/10 even though these 3 anime have a lot of similarities


I go with him, in my opinion Slime and R:Z are better by far (writting) than TateYuusha.
For me

Tate 3-4/10
Slime 6/10
Re:Zero 8/10 (but I've see it in 2015 so possibly 7/10.

Crocospect22 said:


People have different taste, that's all..
You maybe think shield hero is bad, but actually there are people who think it's an enjoyable anime, it might be hard for you to believe but it's true..


And it can be bad even if some people like it. Who say that you can't like bad anime or manga ? I love Eden no Ori for exemple but it's not really good if you look at it.
Tate have lots of default, and doesn't have much qualities.. Even if you don't care about the bad writting or the lack of world building they still exist.



Btw I've read Arifureta and Tate and I prefer Arifureta. But it's the same level. There is no turn around whit Motoyasu or the princess. :p
I prefer manga for those two, in anime Tate have a better production by far.


(sorry for my english)


There's literally no such thing as objectively bad.

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Killuan said:
Fahim654 said:
if you're talking about the anime then yes it is but if you're talking about the LN then heck no. it's fucking great


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.
if you think bad direction, unnecessary fillers, skipping important stuffs, making story; character developments and intense rage moments making cliche is a pretty good adaptation, then i have nothing to say to you man. i doubt you even read the source material.
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Pixel_Vapour said:
Killuan said:


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.


I haven't read the source but the anime was pretty trash.
i know.. so suggesting you to pick the light novel if you have a habbit of reading. i assure you you won't get disappointed
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Fahim654 said:
Killuan said:


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.
if you think bad direction, unnecessary fillers, skipping important stuffs, making story; character developments and intense rage moments making cliche is a pretty good adaptation, then i have nothing to say to you man. i doubt you even read the source material.


I am a Shield Hero Light Novel Reader and I have no clue what you are talking about. Unnecessary Fillers? There was next to nothing that wasn't in the LN. The only thing I can think of right now is the beach scene that lasted a minute or 2. And nothing really important was skipped. Other than Info dumps which would be horrible in an anime format, the smarter thing to do is to cover those things later when they are actually relevant if it gets another season.

I swear other Shield Hero fans had such unrealistic expectations of the anime. They expected nothing short of perfection. I have seen an anime that have adapted an entire novel into just 1 episode yet Shield Hero fans act as if it's the worst adaption ever. It's not the best adaption but it's at the very least a good one. Oh and on the character development thing you said. Those changes where personally asked for by the Author of the Light Novel.
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lol Shield Hero anime adaption had its downfall.
It doesn't give the same feel compare to the manga.

For people who only watch the anime of SH, they can see how the antagonists doesn't have brain, continue to repeat their mistake, and never change.
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You mean Shield Hero for episode 1,
and then SAO for rest of the series?

This thing doesn't even hold a candle to Shield Hero. The first few books are alright, but after that it's basically Kenja no Mago
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Fahim654 said:
Killuan said:


SH adaptation wasn't even bad. It was quite good actually. It's particularly good if you just watch it for what it is without constantly comparing it to the source.
if you think bad direction, unnecessary fillers, skipping important stuffs, making story; character developments and intense rage moments making cliche is a pretty good adaptation, then i have nothing to say to you man. i doubt you even read the source material.


I said it was a pretty good anime. It follows the general storyline of the LN and cuts corners mostly where needed because an anime can't flow at the same pace of an LN or people will complain that it's too slow. Is it perfect? No. But you don't know what a bad adaptation is if you think SH qualifies as one. You can have grievances about things that were skipped or altered without being completely blinded on that fact and trashing the anime because everything wasn't depicted in the same way the LN presented each scenario.

I'm interested to know why you gave it an 8 if you think it's so bad? I don't care how slanted your rating system is, an 8 can in no way be considered a bad rating.
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This thread is just people trying to prove their opinion on Shield is absolute, p why is this thread even under this anime when most of the comments here are on Shield Hero?

Mods Plz lock this thread if people aren't even going to focus on the topic of how Arifureta is another Shield Hero clone...
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I go with him, in my opinion Slime and R:Z are better by far (writting) than TateYuusha.
For me

Tate 3-4/10
Slime 6/10
Re:Zero 8/10 (but I've see it in 2015 so possibly 7/10.



And it can be bad even if some people like it. Who say that you can't like bad anime or manga ? I love Eden no Ori for exemple but it's not really good if you look at it.
Tate have lots of default, and doesn't have much qualities.. Even if you don't care about the bad writting or the lack of world building they still exist.



Btw I've read Arifureta and Tate and I prefer Arifureta. But it's the same level. There is no turn around whit Motoyasu or the princess. :p
I prefer manga for those two, in anime Tate have a better production by far.


(sorry for my english)

There's literally no such thing as objectively bad.


So if my sister (13 years old) write a philosophical essay it can't be objectively bad. Lmao.
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This is garbage and so is Shield Hero. Well, I suppose this has less icky isekai slavery, so I hate it less passionately but they're essentially the same show.

I quite enjoyed James Beckett's ANN review of this. Especially this sentence
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It only takes a couple of days of ingesting some magical goo and raw monster meat to literally level up and completely change his personality from “passive nobody” to “hypermasculine edgelord murder god hellbent on revenge”.


I read some of the manga a while ago and after the edgy beginning the series simply continues its road to overpowered boredom like both SH and GS before it.
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Killuan said:
Fahim654 said:
if you think bad direction, unnecessary fillers, skipping important stuffs, making story; character developments and intense rage moments making cliche is a pretty good adaptation, then i have nothing to say to you man. i doubt you even read the source material.


I said it was a pretty good anime. It follows the general storyline of the LN and cuts corners mostly where needed because an anime can't flow at the same pace of an LN or people will complain that it's too slow. Is it perfect? No. But you don't know what a bad adaptation is if you think SH qualifies as one. You can have grievances about things that were skipped or altered without being completely blinded on that fact and trashing the anime because everything wasn't depicted in the same way the LN presented each scenario.

I'm interested to know why you gave it an 8 if you think it's so bad? I don't care how slanted your rating system is, an 8 can in no way be considered a bad rating.
lol i forget to lower my score. i gave it 8/10 after watching episode 4 and didn't remember to change it. let me give it 6/10. thanks for reminding me. and btw fyi i never said it was bad. i said the adaptation was poor but not totally bad. in my point of view and most of the source material readers, it was trash.
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Not even close to being similar the only thing that's similar is that someone screws him over . But this mc isn't a bitch he would literally kill the people that would get in his way unlike Shieldbro
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Kilaldagren said:
Fahim654 said:
if you think bad direction, unnecessary fillers, skipping important stuffs, making story; character developments and intense rage moments making cliche is a pretty good adaptation, then i have nothing to say to you man. i doubt you even read the source material.


I am a Shield Hero Light Novel Reader and I have no clue what you are talking about. Unnecessary Fillers? There was next to nothing that wasn't in the LN. The only thing I can think of right now is the beach scene that lasted a minute or 2. And nothing really important was skipped. Other than Info dumps which would be horrible in an anime format, the smarter thing to do is to cover those things later when they are actually relevant if it gets another season.

I swear other Shield Hero fans had such unrealistic expectations of the anime. They expected nothing short of perfection. I have seen an anime that have adapted an entire novel into just 1 episode yet Shield Hero fans act as if it's the worst adaption ever. It's not the best adaption but it's at the very least a good one. Oh and on the character development thing you said. Those changes where personally asked for by the Author of the Light Novel.
oh boi here we go again! did i ever say it was totally bad or worst adaptation ever? killuan said it was a pretty good adaptation and i said it was not. it was a fair adaptation to be honest but not a pretty good one. at least storywise it was good yeah i admit that but in other stuff no man it's not. you're a ln reader right? so kindly compare it with the anime please. the world was rich in the ln but it feels lifeless in the anime. Naofumi was way more despaired but also ruthless in ln and his rege moments are more intense which are failed to show in the anime. he was too light hearted in here. Raphtalia's charcter was very developed and her battle with her previous master showed her how mature she became at that moment but anime totally changed that part and gave her a naruto like cliche development. there was a moment when they hide in the village lord's mansion, she had a conversation with melty where melty said herself that how mature her thoughts had become but in the anime it was totally changed. instead of giving us that conversation they gave us a generic harem moment where melty had a conversation with filo and giving a vibe that she has a crush on naofumi. and don't forget about the three hero church arc and the judgement moment of bitch and trash moment. the three hero church was not as strong as how it showed in the LN and the battle was not that well. speaking of the battles did you see the battle in the manga? how impactful each battle was? yeah in anime those battle was totally lifeless and trash except motoyasu vs naofumi duel.
the judgment moment of bitch and trash to be honest i think in anime it was great but i don't like the fact that they made the queen so light hearted. she was straight savage in the ln. naofumi was cruel af at that moment and he was the one who suggested death sentence for them but i don't mind what they did in the anime. they could have end the season in here but no they stretched the story and gave us the underwater temple and l'ark arc which was a great way to start the 2nd season but no they put it in here and rushed a bit to end the season. sorry for making this reply a paragraph but yeah i think you understand now why i'm so upset. i've just gave you some major point but there are still more stuffs that they did it poorly in the anime. not to mention Fitoria and her moments in the anime but i'll pass that. i don't know what kind fans you're talking about but don't lump me with them man. i am a shield hero flr a long time and i expected a better adaptation from kinema citrus studio which also made Made in Abyss. but they didn't hold not only me but most of the fans expectations. so sorry man i respect what you think about the anime but i still think the adaptation was trash and they could have done it better since the same team beautifully adapted made in abyss...
btw i don't know where you find that information but what i know the changes was totally director's wish. he said it on an interview that he thought it would be better to change some stuff so he suggested it to the author did it in the anime. he never said it was authors idea. so i'm not buying that sorry. i wish i could provide you the link of that interview.
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HaarWyvern said:


I go with him, in my opinion Slime and R:Z are better by far (writting) than TateYuusha.
For me

Tate 3-4/10
Slime 6/10
Re:Zero 8/10 (but I've see it in 2015 so possibly 7/10.



And it can be bad even if some people like it. Who say that you can't like bad anime or manga ? I love Eden no Ori for exemple but it's not really good if you look at it.
Tate have lots of default, and doesn't have much qualities.. Even if you don't care about the bad writting or the lack of world building they still exist.



Btw I've read Arifureta and Tate and I prefer Arifureta. But it's the same level. There is no turn around whit Motoyasu or the princess. :p
I prefer manga for those two, in anime Tate have a better production by far.


(sorry for my english)


There's literally no such thing as objectively bad.
actually some things are objectively bad or Trash even if you like it arifureta has shit Direction,bad animation,cg,bad pacing ,is generic and has a bad art Style there isn't anything good there if you like it good for you but just because you like it it doesn't mean that it's good
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How are they the same? The MC of Arifureta didn't get #metoo'ed
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I said it was a pretty good anime. It follows the general storyline of the LN and cuts corners mostly where needed because an anime can't flow at the same pace of an LN or people will complain that it's too slow. Is it perfect? No. But you don't know what a bad adaptation is if you think SH qualifies as one. You can have grievances about things that were skipped or altered without being completely blinded on that fact and trashing the anime because everything wasn't depicted in the same way the LN presented each scenario.

I'm interested to know why you gave it an 8 if you think it's so bad? I don't care how slanted your rating system is, an 8 can in no way be considered a bad rating.
lol i forget to lower my score. i gave it 8/10 after watching episode 4 and didn't remember to change it. let me give it 6/10. thanks for reminding me. and btw fyi i never said it was bad. i said the adaptation was poor but not totally bad. in my point of view and most of the source material readers, it was trash.


You did say that by agreeing with someone who said it was bad.
You should hop on over to the SH discord where it is rife with source readers who find the adaptation to be good. Myself included. I've seen bad adaptations before, this is well above those.
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People describe this as Shield Hero but bad

But the shield hero anime is already pretty bad

yeah
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HaarWyvern said:
TsukuyomiREKT said:

There's literally no such thing as objectively bad.


So if my sister (13 years old) write a philosophical essay it can't be objectively bad. Lmao.


I'm obviously talking about anime/entertainment here...


@Isidoro4567 I haven't actually seen this show and I don't plan on it after seeing clips of the 1st episode. Don't get me wrong here, I think it looks awful as well, but I would never claim or imply that my opinion is objective. People are allowed to like this show even if I or anyone else thinks it looks like a dumpster fire. It's not objectively bad or good. No show is.

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Because Shield Hero wasn't a dumpster fire enough, now we have this to make it look good.
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My my my, never thought I'd see an Isekai war in the middle of THESE pages...
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Owh man the score, just got 6, this community sometimes really harsh. That score point really kill people mood who dont know aniting about this anime. Dont know why they give score low than 6. So much hardwork there. If u dont like it dont watch it. But the score influence others.


Because they fucking butchered the story so hard that neither fans nor newcomres can enjoy this abolute failure of adaptation.

I've seen bad adaptations, but this have to be the worst. 10 seconds and they already ripp off the entire introduction arc, that in this particular case was CRUCIAL to understand the story.
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They are both pretty bad but Arifureta is much worse.
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Dec 26, 2023 8:18 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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