| Make an isekai with two male lead characters, then give both of them an harem. I'm sure something like that would change the genre forever ๐๐ |
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| The genre has an insane amount of world-building potential. I mean cmon, it literally means "another world." Don't exactly know why the Nippon aren't tired of the Fantasy/Magic genre, but hey, I guess playing it safe works for the anime companies (i t j u s t w o r k s) I think I've been asking for an isekai with a cyberpunk, dystopian narrative for the longest time now |
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| Maybe something that will change it up a bit. Make the beginning before the MC is transported into another world longer. I don't know if this has been done or not but maybe make the first half real life where the MC has a antagonist, maybe someone who bullies him. Then they both get transported into another world and the previous bully becomes the good guy and the MC becomes power hungry. I dunno or you could make it more predictable where the MC has to now defeat his previous bully who is now the strongest character in the world. Again not sure if this has been done yet. Let me know if it has |
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| There are so many ways to make an isekai feel fresh, but they just don't capitalize it cuz they wanna pander to the otaku audience and make a self-insert for them, no matter if the show is an autopilot good for the self-insert type show like Isekai wa Smartphone or one where the MC and even the audience is challenged like Shield Hero or Re:Zero. It doesn't matter since it still feeds them waifus, bullshit powers, and/or other cool shit and honor and whatnot with the same tired cliches and archetypes. Even Re:Zero couldn't help but indulge in a masochistic cycle where it rewards Subaru/the audience before challenging and punishing them for Subaru being a fuccboi, and then rewarding him with more girls and cool shit for doing something right, even when it doesn't feel earned by the narrative, before starting the loop all over again. They'll do anything to maintain a power fantasy, even when that means effectively forsaking their premises or emotional and promising narrative ideas and to play it safe. At most, they'll pretend to challenge the audience or add more shock value, but then they'll keep copypasting and conforming. Even the better ones like Slime still suffer from some of these issues. |
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| Change the damn setting so it's not always based in a fantasy world. Done. Even my favorite lesser known isekai series Kiba has a fantasy setting. The only one I know of that doesn't is Youjo Senki. |
| People get very complicated by things like originality or innovation with this genre when no anime has been 100% original, people should relax and know how to appreciate things as they are, so they should get more comfy and relaxing isekai, so I hope that someday adapt feminine isekai's to see side B of the genre... |
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Edge_is_a_weapon said: Setsuei said: Change the damn setting so it's not always based in a fantasy world. Done. Even my favorite lesser known isekai series Kiba has a fantasy setting. The only one I know of that doesn't is Youjo Senki. idk man, magic seems pretty fantasy to me Yes but it lacks what most fantasy world's have. The magical beasts, the RPG style magic mechanics, any spiritual beings outside the one dick of a God and so on. |
Edge_is_a_weapon said: Setsuei said: Yes,but there isn't the typical magical beasts or RPG style magic mechanics. No magic guilds or anything similar,and the world it'd set in doesn't really scream fantasy compared to every other isekai. thats a rather limited view of fantasy but maaaan if a flying loli with the power of god and animu on her side doesnt scream fantasy idk what does. smh theres even a beach ep I realize there's more to fantasy than those things,I'm simply saying in your typical "generic" isekai fantasy worlds those things are often included. |
| You could have the most original idea in the world, but if your writing is as awful as shield hero then ii still trash. |
| Either a.) make the protagonist actually have a sense of danger, and not being able to solve all problems with just nakama power or some other bs. One of the reasons I liked Re:Zero is because Subaru never really had a guaranteed safe point for the most part or b.) make an antihero MC. Youjo Senki actually did this very well (maybe too well in fact, found myself mostly rooting against the MC) and it's definitely not something you see a lot in isekai Or instead of all that, focus on the actual world itself instead of throwing a bunch of cute girls all around. I really started to dislike Shield Hero when members like Filo and Melty started to join the party because it took away from the journey/bond of Naofumi and Raphtalia which was up to that point pretty good |
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Edge_is_a_weapon said: Setsuei said: I realize there's more to fantasy than those things,I'm simply saying in your typical "generic" isekai fantasy worlds those things are often included. thats irrelevant... have a nice day fam Fine with me...this isn't worth turning into some long drawn out forum fight.... |
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Kerylon said: The genre has an insane amount of world-building potential. I mean cmon, it literally means "another world." Don't exactly know why the Nippon aren't tired of the Fantasy/Magic genre, but hey, I guess playing it safe works for the anime companies (i t j u s t w o r k s) I think I've been asking for an isekai with a cyberpunk, dystopian narrative for the longest time now I don't understand how can someone even question some way to make isekai fresh. Creating a world and introducing a character that its foreign to that world it has unlimited potential. The father of western isekais "Gulliver's Travels" has a character that travels to 4 "worlds" in a single book. The character also learned from its travels and even came back to its original world. Creating a world with different rules, culture, physics laws, colours, habitants. The possibilities are limitless. If you are too lazy to create a world you can still make something with the stereotipical world like Re:Zero or... Re:Zero OVA's. An isekai with a group of males (gasp!), a isekai in which the character isnt a dead weight loser virgin otaku but instead an actual member of society who actually wants to return to its world, an isekai in which our character is evil (without tits, fanservice and sex. Well maybe rape its okay as long as it isnt a main focus in the story and its just there to be added to the ammount of shit the MC does) like killing children evil because he was sick of his previous life, an isekai with a character that doesnt unzips his pants and defeat all of his foes effortlesly by waving around his poor writting, an isekai with female characters that dont simply exist to fly around the MC like horny flies, a groupal isekai with decent writting, an isekai in which a couple gets transported to another world, etc. |
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| How about being transported from an isekai to the normal world, putting a spin on the whole genre |
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| Having it so that the MC gets transported to a LotGH-styled world - humanity in the future and in space (space war style), and the show would have the potential to grow really large with its plot progression and character development. |
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_cjessop18_ said: How about being transported from an isekai to the normal world, putting a spin on the whole genre Basically, the Hataraku Maou-sama anime series are have the characters are transported from fantasy world to the normal world.... |
Blade-Fang-KaoriJun 26, 2019 7:51 PM
| I would very much like to see an original isekai anime with a very serious tone, a great focus on world building and a not so weak but very smart MC. Since it will be an original, I don't want the story to have a lot story arcs. And the MC's primary objective is to go back to his world, no ruling the world type of shit. |
| Just give an isekai a great antagonist, something like Kira Yoshikage or Griffith. Then it's good to go |
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zieek said: Make the protagonist the actual villain, not like with "Overlord" or Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari". Make the mc actual scum of the earth. He will be as strong as Ainz, fed up with people like Naofumi and have a skill that drives him to a corner like Subaru from Re:Zero. No need for a sad backstory or unable to connect with people (otaku type) , make him a psychopath or sociopath or use some other mental illness. He should be doing things for number one, himself. Using people, playing both ally and enemy like chumps. Change his character or personality to suit the people he is using to win their trust. Maybe he was a human trafficer in his world, or a corrupt member of some political party. idk what type of day you're having, but sometimes I feel like I could watch something like that too. Specifically like your touch on how the MC should be someone with a mental illness in their normal world Even better would be to have the mc be an antagonist that just blows things up and has fun creating new things to cause terror like Femt. Would seem to be a bit more fun than just some dead brick evil ass MC |
| The most unique thing an anime can do with an Isekai right now is NOT give their self-insert protagonist a love interest. Isekai are so cringe man. "You're special, little otaku. You just have to go to another world tailor scripted for your success where everyone else sucks and beautiful girls see you for who you are". |
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deg said: _cjessop18_ said: How about being transported from an isekai to the normal world, putting a spin on the whole genre Re:Creators already did that though? I haven't seen every isekai that's been made so I'm not sure if everything that I've suggested has been done before |
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Blade-Fang-Kaori said: Basically, the Hataraku Maou-sama anime series are have the characters are transported from fantasy world to the normal world.... Yeah but the MC never acts like he is from another world after episode 1. Which is weird because the other main character (vicelord, not the psycho stalker lady) still acts like that. _cjessop18_ said: How about being transported from an isekai to the normal world, putting a spin on the whole genre A better way to put it would be from another world to the normal world (yeah i know you are talking about a reverse isekai but still) Jahy Sama don't be Discouraged does this. |
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| There are a million of possibilites out there but the production committees won't try any of them because they are unwilling to embark in risky proposals. As long as isekai fans keep demanding and buying the same self-insert/fantasy world/overpowered/harem formula over and over again it's unlikely we'll see anything that tries to explore another concepts. |
Illyricus said: Make an isekai with two male lead characters, then give both of them an harem. I'm sure something like that would change the genre forever ๐๐ https://myanimelist.net/manga/70363/Isekai_Mahou_wa_Okureteru Here you go. zieek said: Make the protagonist the actual villain, not like with "Overlord" or Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari". Make the mc actual scum of the earth. He will be as strong as Ainz, fed up with people like Naofumi and have a skill that drives him to a corner like Subaru from Re:Zero. No need for a sad backstory or unable to connect with people (otaku type) , make him a psychopath or sociopath or use some other mental illness. He should be doing things for number one, himself. Using people, playing both ally and enemy like chumps. Change his character or personality to suit the people he is using to win their trust. Maybe he was a human trafficer in his world, or a corrupt member of some political party. https://www.novelupdates.com/series-finder/?sf=1&org=496&nt=2443,2444&tgi=12874&mtgi=or&sort=sdate&order=desc Need better tagging but that's enough for now I guess. Sakurai_Aoi said: I have a few ideas. 1. Make an isekai anime with a reverse harem (Lol.) 2. An isekai anime with a female protagonist (and no harem) 3. The protagonist could be, idk, gay or something else in the lgbtq+ community 4. The world the protagonist goes to is NOT a medieval one (Maybe the world is technologically advanced or something.) 5. The MC has a unique ability I can't think of any more but I'm sure that these ideas have been done before. Some of them don't occur very often though... https://www.novelupdates.com/?s=villainess&post_type=seriesplans For some of it. https://www.novelupdates.com/?s=cheat&post_type=seriesplans And more. HopefulNihilist said: Make the protagonist's goal NOT to save the world I want to see an isekai protagonist more selfish; instead of trying to save the world or defeat the main antagonist, I want to see an isekai protagonist have a more selfish goal, like trying to get out of the fantasy world, or something more personnel, like trying to rescue their loved one https://myanimelist.net/manga/67259/Hyakuren_no_Haou_to_Seiyaku_no_Valkyria In which the anime butchered real hard just because THEY GODDAMN CRAM 9 VOLUME IN 1 COUR. |
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_cjessop18_ said: How about being transported from an isekai to the normal world, putting a spin on the whole genre The Devil is a Part-Timer! did that and guess what... it didn't work. 5 years later and still no continuation. |
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Futz_ said: Maybe something that will change it up a bit. Make the beginning before the MC is transported into another world longer. I don't know if this has been done or not but maybe make the first half real life where the MC has a antagonist, maybe someone who bullies him. Then they both get transported into another world and the previous bully becomes the good guy and the MC becomes power hungry. I dunno Juuni Kokuki is basically like that |
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| Isekai with a reverse harem BL Isekai Isekai that takes place in a futuristic setting Isekai that takes place in a world similar to ours, but it has subtle differences which end up becoming a big deal Isekai where the MC has absolutely no powers or anything and never gets them either so he has to legitimately fight for his survival using his wits (but don't make him a super big brain genius either) |
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| By not releasing bunch of isekai anime every season. |
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| Maybe stop transporting hikikomoris into a medieval magical world would be the start point to make the genre feel fresh And I know Youjo Senki kind of do that, but they fucked it up the moment the put a 9 years old magic girl in a WWII world, I think Youjo Senki could have been a Top Tier series if it focused more in actual war than magic loli getting angry |
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| Cooking isekai (young japanese chef dies via pufferfish poisoning, in a new world he discovers alien ingredients and opens a restaurant) Sports isekai (highschool sportsball team dies in a bus accident on a road to nationals, but gets another chance to play in a world where wars are actually fought through sport tournaments) Cop isekai (hardboiled cops are needed in a fantasy world overtaken by drug cartels) |
| What the fuck are ya talking about? Just because a bunch of 12 years old edgelords are making some noise in the mal forums, it doesn't mean people are getting sick of isekai by any strech of the imagination. Isekai are still going strong and their popularity is only increasing. Most people like isekai, saying "people are getting sick of isekai" is nothing but a gross generalization. Also, most of the people who are "getting sick" of isekai, never liked the genre to begin with, so no shit they're "getting sick" of it. Whenever they're "generic" or not, (whatever the fuck this buzz word is even supposed to mean these days) it doesn't even matter to them. |
| Stop making them. Or, in case you still want to see them (for some reason), the answer is simple: Being less like SAO and more like Juuni Kokuki. |
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vhagar8 said: What the fuck are ya talking about? Just because a bunch of 12 years old edgelords are making some noise in the mal forums, it doesn't mean people are getting sick of isekai by any strech of the imagination. Isekai are still going strong and their popularity is only increasing. Most people like isekai, saying "people are getting sick of isekai" is nothing but a gross generalization. Also, most of the people who are "getting sick" of isekai, never liked the genre to begin with, so no shit they're "getting sick" of it. Whenever they're "generic" or not, (whatever the fuck this buzz word is even supposed to mean these days) it doesn't even matter to them. This TBH. I'm not even much of an isekai fan. I think it's cheap and ineffective world-building. But the 'anti' people are the worst. There are plenty of other anime being made and plenty of anime that have been made in the past. It is a trend that will die down eventually. Though you have to laugh at the amount of isekai coming out this summer. Still, being mad about it and displaying ugly genre-snobbery is not the way. We're all anime fans and isekai is a part of anime. Even if it's not my favourite trope, I embrace it as part of anime, same as I do moe, iyashikei, lolis and mecha. I can't stand fans who feel the need to put down other fans for their tastes. |
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