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May 5, 2019 7:32 AM
#1
You know how it is, a male character that is average and sometime downright loser but then he got reincarnated/transported/whatever to another world and suddenly become super powerful,destroy bad guys and build their harem. Why do they all need to be OP? I am not saying all isekai protagonist is OP but most of them are and these series tend to be copy paste of other isekai. |
May 5, 2019 7:38 AM
#2
its simple, if u op, then u will be summoned if no-BB i mean most of them were pros in some things... (usually games) |
May 5, 2019 7:44 AM
#3
Don't know about the others but I love OP characters they are so badass imo I don't like useless, crybaby characters like Subaru |
May 5, 2019 7:47 AM
#4
Congintive said: Don't know about the others but I love OP characters they are so badass imo I don't like useless, crybaby characters like Subaru yes op chars bestest, but konosuba just about fun.... |
May 5, 2019 7:50 AM
#5
Aklis said: Congintive said: Don't know about the others but I love OP characters they are so badass imo I don't like useless, crybaby characters like Subaru yes op chars bestest, but konosuba just about fun.... Kazuma is love and he isn't actually that useless like his party members lol and my love would only grow for the character if they are OP and sadistic on the top of that only males. |
May 5, 2019 7:52 AM
#6
There is a certain group of people that like the bare-bones protagonists, so they can get a feeling of a power trip by watching the series. Also, since a large majority of the anime community is Isekai trash, we will still watch the shows anyways (take this current season's Kenja no Mago). As such, if they make money off it they'll keep producing shows as such, and since there are SO many light novel series like this, it's easy to always just make them. |
May 5, 2019 7:59 AM
#7
They try but they can't I love op characters but in any isekai anime there always comes a villan that is stronger than the protagonist which makes the whole reason to watch the show DISAPPEAR |
May 5, 2019 8:03 AM
#8
anime producer saw the amount of MAL threads asking for op protagonist and decided to cash in |
May 5, 2019 8:07 AM
#9
https://www.novelupdates.com/?s=strongest&post_type=seriesplans I mean this is just one keyword. You can search it under "cheat" keyword too if you like and any other filter pointing at the same thing. And it's not like only male did it but female one did it too. They just haven't get any anime yet. |
May 5, 2019 8:14 AM
#10
I think the Japanese like that shit. And sometimes it is well done but the bummer is that you can already predict what's gonna happen |
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May 5, 2019 9:05 AM
#11
Because it panders to some fat losers who think they will suddenly transform into said "OP protagonist" if they defend the anime on the internet and spend enough time watching it. |
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May 5, 2019 9:22 AM
#12
Because most times, Isekais are just used for making some generic harem with badly animated fights. My advice, try to watch the good ones and avoid anything that looks like a generic harem. And to anwser your question, those mc are OP like that so the average otaku can self-insert and feel badass for once in their lifes. |
May 5, 2019 9:28 AM
#13
Easy, boy. Most people who read and watch isekai are frustraed otakus who wants escapism. And most of the pople who writes isekai are hack who just want a quick cash, so they are as lazy as possible. So combine a hack writer who doesn't know any better form to resolve conflict that making acharacter OP, and a reader who just want a character that can never lose because he needs to self insert himself in a flat character who's never really challenged in the narrative, and so does he. |
May 5, 2019 9:50 AM
#14
Idk I don't really mind for the most part. I mean, I'd rather have an OP protag who can actually do something than someone like Ganta or beginning Yuuki who can barely do anything right |
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May 5, 2019 9:53 AM
#15
Short_Circut said: Idk I don't really mind for the most part. I mean, I'd rather have an OP protag who can actually do something than someone like Ganta or beginning Yuuki who can barely do anything right both of them are examples of bad characters done in opposite ways. |
May 5, 2019 9:56 AM
#16
BlancaXLobo said: Easy, boy. Most people who read and watch isekai are frustraed otakus who wants escapism. And most of the pople who writes isekai are hack who just want a quick cash, so they are as lazy as possible. So combine a hack writer who doesn't know any better form to resolve conflict that making acharacter OP, and a reader who just want a character that can never lose because he needs to self insert himself in a flat character who's never really challenged in the narrative, and so does he. That's right, i hope we get series like konosuba, grimgar and Rezero, it's 100000 times better than those OP MC shit |
May 5, 2019 10:11 AM
#17
Because escapism is what most people in Japan want out of the genre, in spite of most of them probably having watched Evangelion. Apparently they learned nothing |
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May 5, 2019 10:14 AM
#18
Since when is isekai sentient? KaiserNazrin said: Because the "reincarnation type" is what's "in" right now, you shouldn't include transported since that has always been a staple.You know how it is, a male character that is average and sometime downright loser but then he got reincarnated/transported/whatever to another world and suddenly become super powerful,destroy bad guys and build their harem. Why do they all need to be OP? I am not saying all isekai protagonist is OP but most of them are and these series tend to be copy paste of other isekai. Anyway that wasn't case back in 80s, 90s, and up until the mid 00s. If you want something a bit different there's: Aura Battler Dunbine (one of the first, by the creator of Gundam) Maze NG Knight Lamune Magic Knight Rayearth Escaflowne 12 Kingdoms Fushigi Yuugi El Hazard |
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May 5, 2019 12:06 PM
#19
Because, it's main audience is bunch of escapists who dream about being reborn in another world and be a badass unlike their real life, and most of them can relate with former pathetic and now OP guy in isekais. |
May 5, 2019 12:12 PM
#20
because people love it and at least to me it was very satisfying to see how the mc destroy everything and shocking everyone how op he is. |
May 5, 2019 12:16 PM
#21
Wish fullfillment. Your life sucked so the next will be super epic for you. |
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May 5, 2019 1:02 PM
#22
Because its simply more fun than when they are average or weak |
May 5, 2019 1:12 PM
#23
Isn't it the same how it is in video games? Like Skyrim etc? "You are special, you are strong, you will save the world, YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE" and other such platitudes. So the person feels like they have a sense of purpose and can also feel free to get away with whatever they feel like. |
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May 5, 2019 11:41 PM
#24
Dali14 said: BlancaXLobo said: Easy, boy. Most people who read and watch isekai are frustraed otakus who wants escapism. And most of the pople who writes isekai are hack who just want a quick cash, so they are as lazy as possible. So combine a hack writer who doesn't know any better form to resolve conflict that making acharacter OP, and a reader who just want a character that can never lose because he needs to self insert himself in a flat character who's never really challenged in the narrative, and so does he. That's right, i hope we get series like konosuba, grimgar and Rezero, it's 100000 times better than those OP MC shit I haven't watched KonoSuba and Re: Zero yet, so i don't know if they really manage to stand out from the rest, at least for me, or they're just gimmicky. But thanks for helping me rethink about watching them. KreatorX said: Isn't it the same how it is in video games? Like Skyrim etc? "You are special, you are strong, you will save the world, YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE" and other such platitudes. So the person feels like they have a sense of purpose and can also feel free to get away with whatever they feel like. You've explained in a most kind way than I did, and yeah, it's the case with most of fiction. |
May 6, 2019 12:07 AM
#25
They're incredibly common because most Isekai shows are completely reliant and dependent on being a power fantasy. There's a reason why a lot of these OP characters have the blandest personalities, and messy black hair, it's so people can self insert themselves into that role as the person above most others and having women throwing themselves at you. Some people that enjoy it might not be lonely otaku craving escapism, but even so, that's still the target demographic. Conflict and development are basically gone, because it's targeted towards those that just want to be comfortable. Iyashikei anime make people forget about their problems by distracting you with soothing shows, while the modern Isekai make you forget by making anime that make you temporarily feel powerful. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, the problem is how specific it is. If someone's the target demographic of a power fantasy, chances are most of their attention will be on the MC alone, and his harem. Making interesting worlds and world building are incredibly difficult, and not very rewarding with this genre, which leads to all the shows with the same worlds but with different names. It's basically a niche that got too involved in the mainstream due to how low effort many of these shows are, yet gain so much. The problem isn't the genre or idea itself, but the kind of writers it attracts. Unlike the west, people on the eastern part of the world are VERY forgiving when it comes to repetition, so if someone over there is a fan of the Isekai power fantasy, more often than not they won't complain about another Isekai anime showing up that's more or less identical. Many aspiring light novel authors and mangaka take advantage of this, and just decide to take the genre's formula and just put minimal effort in differentiating it, knowing full well it's target demographic is going to like it anyway. Isekai shows with OP main characters are not made for newcomers, it's made for people who are already invested in the idea and want more. |
May 6, 2019 12:24 AM
#26
My new isekai IP. "This is what happens when you reincarnate as the strongest Overlord Tyrant Killidia and she won't let you touch that fluffy tail." With romance of course. |
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Apr 22, 2022 4:16 PM
#27
Cause they have no good idea of making a great protagonist and just uses a shitty male lead who sucks at personality and becomes a total pervert with his dumb unintelligent harem girls. |
Apr 22, 2022 5:49 PM
#28
Cause it's easier to write. You just any sort of character development or training arc. Your regular guy from Japan is reborn/transported to another world and he's immediately a badass. You don't have to worry too much about stuff like characters, world building, magic systems and the like; just make your mc cool. If you're just an average Joe with little to no writting experience uploading your stuff to Narou or something this is kinda unpolished stuff you would come up with. There's also the demand angle to, of course, but I don't think these guys could write anything better even if something else were more popular with audiences. |
Apr 22, 2022 6:01 PM
#29
Because some people in the audience think of themselves as "an average Joe" and like to see power fantasies, where they could be more than that. But I dunno... this type of overpowered characters are boring to me. I like some others, but they have to deal a lot with their responsibilities and all as someone, who is in charge of these powers. Just tacking on powers on a fairly blank slate and doing nothing too interesting with it personality-wise is boring. |
Apr 22, 2022 6:48 PM
#30
Short_Circut said: Idk I don't really mind for the most part. I mean, I'd rather have an OP protag who can actually do something than someone like Ganta or beginning Yuuki who can barely do anything right If you want a protagonist who can "do something" wouldn't it be more interesting if they could affect the plot in more unique ways instead of just generically being the physically strongest person in the whole world |
Apr 22, 2022 6:57 PM
#31
Apr 23, 2022 1:35 AM
#32
the spider isekai was a good watch, it gave that digimon vibe. all and all the writing could be improved to make it more solid but they still have that structured formula. |
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Apr 23, 2022 2:12 AM
#33
I always thought it was due to many people in this day and age having adhd or a shorter attention span. 20+ years ago when I was a kid/teenage there was a lot of grind in games and pacing was slower in anime and games so we invested more time in something. Nowadays, there's just so much content and information out there, nobody has time or the attention span to wait on a character to slowly progress and improve over time. They just want to see the end results and move on. These shows often aren't memorable though unless they can somehow add some sort of shock value. |
Apr 23, 2022 7:00 AM
#34
I always thought it was supposed to be marketed to Japanese students who think their conformist lives are boring and seek escapism through self inserting them into isekai |
Apr 23, 2022 7:43 AM
#35
Because the audiences like it? Plus I think its easier to write character that can do anything without having 200+ years of development. |
Apr 23, 2022 8:16 AM
#36
oyabuntaro said: I don't think that whether it would or not means generically being the strongest person in the whole world isn't interestingIf you want a protagonist who can "do something" wouldn't it be more interesting if they could affect the plot in more unique ways instead of just generically being the physically strongest person in the whole world |
Apr 23, 2022 10:07 AM
#37
The isekai genre is largely a male power fantasy, which is why you have 'average' usually boring guys become super OP just because they're in another world. It's not like power fantasies are obsolete in this world but they are overused - probably because it sells. |
Apr 23, 2022 11:43 AM
#38
OP protagonists is within the definition of isekai. I mean it doesn't have to be, but it is. Let's review why isekais exist in the first place. Look, if you're an author, you sit down, and think about what kind of story you want to tell. You flesh out your protagonist background, then try to make him fit into the story. There needs to be context. There needs to be an explanation for how the character is the way he is within the world that he exists. Sure, you could make a complete parody like One Punch Man and say he became super powerful from running laps. But if you want any kind of realism, you'd need to come up with some way to differentiate the main character from everyone else. You could also go the way of donghua, and say that MC comes from a wealthy family filled with resources and stipends for becoming stronger. But this type of MC has another weakness -- relatability. People tend to want to relate to an underdog protagonist. So on the one hand, you can write quality scripts to give your character a good constitution, have him work hard, etc. On the other hand, you have isekai: a magical bullet to allow you to create a protagonist that doesn't have to fit into the context of the world, doesn't have to be responsible for his powers, automatically has insights that no one else has in the world... If you make a normal protagonist that must work through his way within the context of the new world, then that defeats the whole purpose of having isekai in the first place. You might as well script the MC in the new world to begin with. That's why you see OP MC's in isekais, because that's the advantage that isekais grant the author. |
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Apr 23, 2022 11:50 AM
#39
I’m glad you asked, many anime fans are total sore loser dweebs that want to be cool, so they have to resort to a little thing called Escapism |
Apr 23, 2022 12:15 PM
#40
the question is why do shonen have OP protagonists or lets go even broader, why are most heros in action media OP. The answer is simple, Escapism. Besides, OP characters can be used in compelling story telling too and at worst, they can be put in cool action scenes. |
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Apr 23, 2022 12:20 PM
#41
few years later and this answer is pretty easy guess its all part of the power fantasy escapism. |
Apr 24, 2022 6:39 AM
#42
_Maneki-Neko_ said: Because some people in the audience think of themselves as "an average Joe" and like to see power fantasies, where they could be more than that. But I dunno... this type of overpowered characters are boring to me. I like some others, but they have to deal a lot with their responsibilities and all as someone, who is in charge of these powers. Just tacking on powers on a fairly blank slate and doing nothing too interesting with it personality-wise is boring. I think as well many people would also have this sentiment of op mcs being just dull so you're not the only one on that boat. |
Apr 24, 2022 6:51 AM
#43
Apr 24, 2022 6:52 AM
#44
dunno, they're entertaining to watch? kinda hilarious what pretentious bullshit essays are people writing lmao |
Apr 24, 2022 7:02 AM
#45
Isekai (was) mainly targeted towards teenage boys, most of which like action and hype battles. What is the best way to aquire those two? Give your MC OP powers and have him fight strong enemies. Power fantasies are also something (generally) popular among teenage boys. OP MC easily defeating strong enemies -> hype Pretty simple really. |
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