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| Ah, good, Reyes was killed by Kagari. Well it was obvious that Alexis was the bad from the start. These soldiers sucks lol. Kagari is so..... tough. She is dead. I don't feel so much due that I never liked her so much... Mayuri is still alive...good! The last scene with her was amazing. I think that she and Suzuha are still alive. |
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| this fucking show I swear to god. these last two eps have just fucked me up. |
| I wish Leskinen didn't go full ham with his villainy there. Mr Braun from the original series played a similar role, but felt way more organic and believable. |
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| Wow... was loving this series so much until this episode. Character development(especially Mayuri) was going in a great direction and the emotional content was communicated well imo but this episode... its just so unbelievably bad. The tone shift, plot armor, villain reveal/exposition, all seemed so out of place among some well executed character development/plot movement(Mayuri's decision to finally do something) Damn. Couldn't care less about the low-quality animation if it wasn't among some of the shoddiest writing I've seen. So is this where i switch over to the VN? Didn't play S;G VN so would I be totally in S;G0 VN? |
| well that went in a lot of down right tragic direction…love this series nonetheless |
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| Jesus christ, reading the VN i thought Kagari beating all these soldiers on her own was bad but the anime made it look 10 times worse. Killing someone in a split second by cutting his head off with her hands? dodging all those bullets, proceed to jump while they are shooting and break another soldiers neck. What the hell LMAO. |
| This episode and the second half of the previous episode are just so awful. All these trained soldiers can't hit a damn thing. Suzuha and Kagari have some insane plot armor. Characters are constantly getting grazed by bullets. Leskinen's reveal made him seem like such a generic villain. I really expected better considering how well this season has been going up till this point. I hope they manage to salvage this show in the next bunch of episodes and make me forget about this cringe. |
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| Steins;Gate is just getting so bad it's good |
| jesus just switch timelines already lol rip kirisu and maruyii and kagurii and suzuha |
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| Damn so many emotions and twists in this episode, especially that ending! Damn that was quite something. I would probably already lost it by then, but for Okabe still keeping a part of himself true, he really must be strong! Really interesting development and episode, and most of my suspicious where point on, I do wonder what happens next. |
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| wtf.... what they have made to steins gate... this was so bad... I don't even feel like keep watching this anymore Better drop this with a 4/10 and bye. |
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Saffron_entity said: Wait what? Did Mayuri and Suzuha successfully go back in time? I hope so, that speech Mayuri gave at the end was (mostly) great. It would be really nice to have Mayuri do something and change the future instead of having Okabe do everything. I mean the emotional content is great, but the plot just feels nonsensical and confusing. Did Hashida really stop Suzuha from killing Leskinen over a generic moral reason right after she shot (and potentially killed) the soldiers behind him? How did that actually work on her??? Did Okabe and Mayuri really just have a conversation in the middle of a fucking battlefield? I get these situations are supposed to be emotional, but the situation just makes it so ridiculous. I wanted to be impressed by Leskinen but did he have to do the "a-ha! I have you cornered now! Now let me describe my evil plan to you while you find an opportunity to escape" cliche? He literally went from pretty-cool-guy to generic-evil-mad-scientist way too abruptly, and for hardly a good reason. I'm just going to quote this user because this is exactly how I felt when I watched this episode, But not only that, what the hell is with one girl taking down 20-30 odd men with machine guns who are suppose to be professionals trained to kill??? Yeah f--king right man, I accepted the dad beating the shit out of the 4 punks with guns to save his daughter because hey he was being the dad! But there was no excuse doing this again with this fight scene, And like saffron said, the fact they really put such emphasis on we don't have time this is a battle field with bombs and explosions and bullets flying everywhere yet she stands at the doorway to the time machine talking bullshit before leaving and then the time machine explodes supposedly because hey thats dramatic! WOULD OF BEEN A 10, had they slashed the bad guys in half from 30 to like 8-10, took away most of their machine guns, gave someone else a gun like okabe or hashida or something, that could of been believable but its just so unrealistic I hate it so much,... Like even b rated movies do stupid action scenes but this takes the cake for dumbest way to handle a fight... and they could of actually let suzuha go ape shit and kill that dude seeings their already going to another timeline anyways, and again, like saffron said, she literally just killed 2 people and like I said she LITERALLY KILLED 30 PEOPLE BEFORE THAT! Shitty writing, last two episodes before this gave me hope it was going to be epic the writing went from bad to better to actually pretty great those two episodes, and ferris stopped with the weird cat shit for once, even okabe was finally getting angry and showing emotion and then they trash it with a bullshit reveal of the badguy and a even more mundane bullshit fight scene. Hopefully the ending makes up for it, and god I'm pissed they don't show the numbers for the correct timelines anymore and they just use the same number changing animation again and again.... .... ... Oh well its just a show, I'll somewhat accept it because thats life, but it still does make you wish for better writing and for more thought to have gone into this because anyone should of noticed some of the choices were outright stupidly made. |
xZabuzax said: GodOfWolves said: I'm just going to quote this user because this is exactly how I felt when I watched this episode, But not only that, what the hell is with one girl taking down 20-30 odd men with machine guns who are suppose to be professionals trained to kill??? Yeah f--king right man, I accepted the dad beating the shit out of the 4 punks with guns to save his daughter because hey he was being the dad! But there was no excuse doing this again with this fight scene, And like saffron said, the fact they really put such emphasis on we don't have time this is a battle field with bombs and explosions and bullets flying everywhere yet she stands at the doorway to the time machine talking bullshit before leaving and then the time machine explodes supposedly because hey thats dramatic! WOULD OF BEEN A 10, had they slashed the bad guys in half from 30 to like 8-10, took away most of their machine guns, gave someone else a gun like okabe or hashida or something, that could of been believable but its just so unrealistic I hate it so much,... Like even b rated movies do stupid action scenes but this takes the cake for dumbest way to handle a fight... and they could of actually let suzuha go ape shit and kill that dude seeings their already going to another timeline anyways, and again, like saffron said, she literally just killed 2 people and like I said she LITERALLY KILLED 30 PEOPLE BEFORE THAT! Shitty writing, last two episodes before this gave me hope it was going to be epic the writing went from bad to better to actually pretty great those two episodes, and ferris stopped with the weird cat shit for once, even okabe was finally getting angry and showing emotion and then they trash it with a bullshit reveal of the badguy and a even more mundane bullshit fight scene. Hopefully the ending makes up for it, and god I'm pissed they don't show the numbers for the correct timelines anymore and they just use the same number changing animation again and again.... .... ... Oh well its just a show, I'll somewhat accept it because thats life, but it still does make you wish for better writing and for more thought to have gone into this because anyone should of noticed some of the choices were outright stupidly made. Yeah episode 18 was fucking stupid, I hated it but I assure you that the next couple of episodes will make up for the shitty episode 18. Steins;Gate 0 could have been much better than this if the authors actually put effort into it but apparently they want to please the kids with the shounen shit that happened with Kagari going rambo in episode 18 and don't get me started with Kagari slashing heads off barehanded. Yeah it did get better honestly, the ending left me unfulfilled but to be honest the show was worth watching, I don't regret it. You nailed it though, on the shonen thing, I was upset with a lot of fights, but they did do well with the time traveling and some of the people who got shot in the later episodes. Okabe got grazed by so many bullets and suzuha as well, I wished one would of landed in the leg or arm for more effect though ya know lol. And lmao I actually lied to myself like there is no way she did that, without a MF weapon, I'm like yeah nah, she had a knife it was hidden they just didn't show it. But nah it was real and it was the lamest thingggg ever dude! lmfao I'm so happy someone else sees the shysty writing//directing. Lastly, yeah more effort into the writing, I felt the fluff from the first 15 episodes could of been cut to 8-10 episodes and the 16-17 could of been like 11-12 and the final 6-7 episodes here should of been the second half of steins gate with okabe starting to give a crap, because everything before this there wasn't really any development unless you call giving all the females big knockers after 6 months to a year in the future cause that makes sense to. Lol defiantly agree with you they aimed this one more towards kids this time. But yeah all the real development happened right around here and towards the end. And it felt rushed, I think they could of turned these final episodes into a solid 12 and gave up more info on the other characters like kaguri and the villen and it wouldn't of felt as meh or rushed. and the beginning wouldn't of felt so long and drawn out. |
| What! she cut their faces with her bare hands?! The villain most usual failure is always waiting too long or derailing in conversation. Leskinen couldn't had possibly die from that fall. Poor Kagari... A war orphan first then a happy girl then a brainwashed soldier... Still I am glad that they did a proper ending for her unlike the VN and the next didn't happen in the VN at all. How did she knew his past self phone number? Anyways this give a lot of insight to Leskinen and Kagari that it wasn't in the VN and good music to accompany the moment. Those three episodes have been my favorites so far. "You are really a mad scientist." Oh yeah he sure is "If you kill the guy you are the same as him." And what about the rest of the army that died? He doesn't deserve that as much as the rest of the people that was receiving orders? You could say the method was not correct but not that. A fitting end for the professor. "I... love Huouoin Kyoma. But, guess what? I love Okabo Rinato even more." Still trying to find why is the other way around now. |
ArakitoDec 16, 2018 8:28 PM
| Now she's mad! Kagari is inhumane! She must've been trained for the past decade to be this skilled just as Suzuha is an experienced fighter. Why are some soldiers standing still during the firefight? Animation budget cuts??? Of fucking course... It was the American Professor Alexis who was behind Kagari's brainwashing. A member of Startfor, Shadow CIA. This is all a joint effort of present Alexis and Future Alexis. The sole purpose of Kagari is literally to make sure that Alexis goals can be reached. And the sole purpose of the creation of Amadeus is so that he can preserve Kurisu's genius mind in which contains Kurisu's theory on time machines. AND WHAT'S ALEXIS' GOAL? MEH... JUST TO EXPERIMENT ON HIS THEORY AND PROVE THAT THEY'RE CORRECT! MEH... SO THAT I'M IN CONTROL! SMH... He deserved PAIN!!! It was satisfying seeing Suzuha beating up Alexis, but she was stopped. It'll be so good if she beat this bastard up until his face is all bloodied, not necessarily killing him... And then as Alexis said, the true face to face conflict started! Fucking helicopters with troops and attack helicopters fight it off. America, Russia all wanting that sweet time machine knowledge and wanting to stop their enemy from having the knowledge. This ended up in the time machine being blown to bits with Suzuha and Mayuri inside. I thought the message Okabe received from Mayuri was a D-mail from the future. But nope... I'm mad! |
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| Silly how all these soldiers can't even do a single thing going up against a single girl. Leskinen turns out to be the doctor that brainwashed Kagari in the future and took advantage of her after she travelled back in time with Suzuha. Shame Daru stopped Suzuha from beating Leskinen to death. There's no way Mayuri and Suzuha blew up right D: - Even if it was, he's not going to stay in this worldline, he'll make sure to go back somehow (though that would again be a different worldline) That last message from Mayuri was sad as hell :( |
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| The action is killing this anime. |
| So Kagari somehow become a superhuman just because she's brainwashed. Poor Leskinen he got a bunch of dumb soldiers. Lol Okabe had dethroned himself from the title of the Mad Scientist and give it to Leskinen. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
BiggKab said: Terrible combat scene, so bad it was funny. Anyway... why is this fool blaming himself instead of the two turds standing behind him is beyond me. Blame is never properly placed in this franchise. Why should he blame Maho and Daru? |
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| This was a crazy episode! But yeah the action always feels off for some reason |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| I knew Leskinen was weird but I didn't expected him to be the evil boss, I expected that female doctor to be the evil boss with Leskinen being her right hand, to think Kagari was just a puppet and the only happiness she ever had was with being with Mayuri..... This turned out to be the worst timeline for Okarin.... |
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| Goddamn fansubs. Whats this all according to keikaku bullshit. wtf is a hikoboshi and if its a name/folklore then put a translators note saying so. |
Sol_Ou said: Goddamn fansubs. Whats this all according to keikaku bullshit. wtf is a hikoboshi and if its a name/folklore then put a translators note saying so. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata |
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SheevPalpatine said: Thanks. Just skimmed the first paragraph and it already mentions July 7th vega and altair. Wouldve been nice to know that early with say a translators note.Sol_Ou said: Goddamn fansubs. Whats this all according to keikaku bullshit. wtf is a hikoboshi and if its a name/folklore then put a translators note saying so. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata |
Sol_Ou said: Thanks. Just skimmed the first paragraph and it already mentions July 7th vega and altair. Wouldve been nice to know that early with say a translators note. The official eng subs are sh*t. There are also mistranslations and misspellings in them |
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| Wow. Just wow. This was the absolute worst episode of both seasons, and maybe of any anime, that I've ever seen. How can anyone praise this is just beyond me. Horrible, unbelievable deus ex machina action with superpowers (talk about chopping heads off with bare hands) and bad choreograhy, Leskinen explaining his plans instead of just proceeding, protagonists conveniently getting enough time to stop him and talk during insane action on the rooftop with soldiers and helicopers...yeah...so realistic... Sigh. I can talk about every scene that's bad and illogical here (like that convenient appearance of 2 soldiers with Maho and Daru, or Suzuha not picking any gun and rushing to Leskinen with a knife), but that's pointless. The show was flawed, but ok until episode 16, however 17&18 absolutely destroyed it. It's needless to say I couldn't feel any emotions whatsoever from supposedly important scenes and deaths, I was just smiling and covering up my face because of all this nonsense. Disappointing and sad. Nothing feels like Steins;Gate at all. If this was supposed to be dramatic, it failed dramatically (pun intended). Also, Leskinen being an antagonist was not really unexpected (for me). |
St0rmbladeMar 9, 2020 9:20 AM
Resus-2 said: Yep, this was the episode I was talking about, that's why I told you about it so you can be mentally prepared for it, I also cringe when I see people praising this shit of an episode, their standards must be really (and I mean REALLY) low. The next couple of episodes are somewhat decent but that's not enough to save the anime IMHO, to me this anime went down the drain with this episode, this crap is nothing compared to Steins;Gate. I also think that it was the lowest point and the later episodes didn't fall that low. As for this one, I suspect that it was due to some production issues, I refuse to believe there wasn't a decent reason for such a bad episode. I've looked it up at ANN and it turned out this episode was directed by somebody with almost no experience in direction whatsoever. Also S;G0 has 13 producers, while the original has 6. I suspect it didn't work for the best, and the production was all over the place. It doesn't excuse anything that happened here but at least I came up with something resembling a plausible explanation. |
| Since the mercenary thought Kagari was Reyes and we see a dead body in the same suit, does that mean Kagari killed Judy Reyes? I think we all knew Professor Leskinen was the bad guy from the get go so no surprises there. Me after seeing Mayuri's final message to Okabe: AWWWW MAYUSHII *sobs* |
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| I loved the original steins gate, and gave it a perfect 10/10 score. But so far, steins gate 0 is so bad, Okabe being depressed for 18 episodes is starting to get on my nerves, he's been crying and whining the whole story so far. There is almost no character development except for Daru and Suzuha, and the action scene on the roof this episode was extremely bad. Alot of the actions characters make in this 2nd season make no sense at all. I hope the next few episodes change my opinion but I doubt it. I've never been so disappointed in a 2nd season of an anime in the 10+ years I've been watching anime. How the hell did this get a 8,5/10 on mal? |
GrimstarJan 31, 2021 1:28 PM
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| This episode is quite... weird.. to say the least I truly enjoy the addition of Leskinen's motives and Kagari as a character is explained better in the anime than the VN But apart from that, the whole rooftop scene lacks the "do or die" factor with how long it took Mayuri to get into the time machine itself |
| I knew that the professor would be the professor in Okabe's dreams.. Rip Kuragi, she's half dead or dead.. And hopefully Suzuha and Mayurii went safely back in time, not sure because you could see pieces of the time machine but HOPEFULLY. It's time for Okabe to use the time leap machine |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
SideCharacterKal said: I knew that the professor would be the professor in Okabe's dreams.. Rip Kuragi, she's half dead or dead.. And hopefully Suzuha and Mayurii went safely back in time, not sure because you could see pieces of the time machine but HOPEFULLY. It's time for Okabe to use the time leap machine I'm going to ask again... What dream are you talking about? No such thing was in Steins;Gate. |
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SciADV_Maniac said: SideCharacterKal said: I knew that the professor would be the professor in Okabe's dreams.. Rip Kuragi, she's half dead or dead.. And hopefully Suzuha and Mayurii went safely back in time, not sure because you could see pieces of the time machine but HOPEFULLY. It's time for Okabe to use the time leap machine I'm going to ask again... What dream are you talking about? No such thing was in Steins;Gate. I might have been wrong about the dream happening in SG. But if you watched the serie, you should know what dream I'm talking about lol. |
| “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
SideCharacterKal said: SciADV_Maniac said: I'm going to ask again... What dream are you talking about? No such thing was in Steins;Gate. I might have been wrong about the dream happening in SG. But if you watched the serie, you should know what dream I'm talking about lol. I watched it plenty of times and played the VNs (the source material) plenty of times too. No such thing happened. You are confusing something from another anime I think. The closest thing is the dream for Episode 4 of Steins;Gate 0, but that dream has nothing to do with Leskinen. |
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| What a perfect episode, simple as that |
| This episode would be sad if they didn't make the characters so stupid lmao. Mayuri went into the time machine to do what? be a liability? Daru's line telling Suzuha that she won't be better than the scientist if she kills him was dumb as hell. Bruh you're in a fucking war why is he saying that about the American mf and not the 20+ soldiers Suzuha and Kagari just bodied to protect their family??? This shit doesn't add up. Not only that Okabe could've easily stolen the gun after he knocked out Leskinen on the stairs or even made him a hostage (considering his injury I'm not too mad at it tho) Mayuri and Daru may be trash but my respect for Suzuha has gone up once again. |
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| This episode makes me feel so... uncomfortable, I don't want to spend time writing numerous paragraphs ranting but the way they handle the drama is plain agonizing. I don't mean to be harsh on Mayuri but taking responsibility as an excuse to ignore her safety is foolish, especially since it feels like she brushed aside all Okabe's efforts to protect her in the first place. And what's wrong with Suzuha? Pointing a gun to Okabe and now letting Mayuri, a person who only just knows about time traveling to goes back in time because she (Mayuri) wanted to? That's not even what Suzuha would do, felt so awkward and out of character. The reveal of Leskinen is so lazy and forced for a central antagonist, they could make his appearance show up earlier with a lot of potential to add more depth and exploitation, instead, they let him appear near the end of the whole series only to die shortly after with zero impacts make his character dull and forgettable. His plan around time travel and brainwashing doesn't make me impressed even a little. Kagari's death felt like a cheap melodrama written by an amateur author, serving no purpose to the story other than trying to make the viewer feel bad for a couple of seconds. Don’t get me wrong, I admire the chemistry of mother/daughter between Kagari and Mayuri, especially in their reunion in the 12th episode, but the poor thematic execution make it flatten and drastically went downhill right afterward. The cliffhanger at the end is so underwhelming, Steins;Gate is not the series that has to rely on incidental external factors that much. At this point, I’m not sure if I’m being nonsense or the show is, effort tried to replicate the original S;G just cause it to become a whole mess. Hoping the conclusion will at least bring somethings that make more sense. |
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