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May 22, 2018 5:02 AM
#1
i have seen many anime/manga which have some bulling scenes and i have realized that girl bullying a girl is way more horrendous than a guy bullying a guy (in usual its the other way around) like they steal their stuff, put trash in their lockers, write bull in their desks, gather in group to humiliate etc while in guys case they just beat the crap out of him or make him their errand boy. whats your thoughts? EDIT: talk about anime not the real deal in this thread. THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT TSUNDERE ABUSE, THOSE ARE BITCHES AND WE ALL KNEW THAT |
Pra_hasMay 27, 2018 9:05 PM
May 22, 2018 5:10 AM
#2
What are my thoughts? Bullying is bad, fap your frustrations out, it's better. |
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May 22, 2018 5:12 AM
#3
I doubt the bullying options are limited due to their gender so that might just be your personal experience. I haven't seen many anime where people got bullied and most of the time it was just name calling. |
May 22, 2018 5:19 AM
#4
-Lofn- said: thats the best answer you are the winner kurusawa senseiWhat are my thoughts? Bullying is bad, fap your frustrations out, it's better. |
May 22, 2018 5:23 AM
#5
I think you shouldn't take anime as an example since it's usually pretty cliched. 3-gatsu S2 did a great job with that theme,tho. It didn't just show the act of bullying itself,but also how it affected the victims and it's surroundings. |
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May 22, 2018 5:34 AM
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May 22, 2018 6:17 AM
#7
Pra_has said: i have seen many anime/manga which have some bulling scenes and i have realized that girl bullying a girl is way more horrendous than a guy bullying a guy (in usual its the other way around) like they steal their stuff, put trash in their lockers, write bull in their desks, gather in group to humiliate etc while in guys case they just beat the crap out of him or make him their errand boy. whats your thoughts? EDIT: talk about anime not the real deal in this thread. You should look at Girls bullying boys aswell. |
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May 22, 2018 6:44 AM
#8
More men tend to bully physically, more women prefer to bully others mentally and by embarrassing them socially. Sorry, I'm not really seeing the question. |
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May 22, 2018 6:55 AM
#9
CJ_Kiyoruki said: the question is why women tends to approach more horrifying way of bullying.More men tend to bully physically, more women prefer to bully others mentally and by embarrassing them socially. Sorry, I'm not really seeing the question. |
May 22, 2018 7:06 AM
#10
Pra_has said: CJ_Kiyoruki said: the question is why women tends to approach more horrifying way of bullying.More men tend to bully physically, more women prefer to bully others mentally and by embarrassing them socially. Sorry, I'm not really seeing the question. I guess a bitch fight affects their public image and could damage their nails and physical appearances if they got into fist fight. |
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May 22, 2018 7:13 AM
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May 22, 2018 7:13 AM
#12
I thought this thread was tailor made for @tragedydesu when I read the title but I was wrong. I thought we were talking about real bullying like "I DON'T LOVE YOU OR ANYTHING, YOU LOWLIFE! *punches*" |
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May 22, 2018 7:14 AM
#13
@Pra_has It's just the way it is. I'm not going to lie and say that we don't physically fight, but most girls prefer to ruin one's reputation and embarrass them rather than confront them and just punch them in the face. When testosterone kicks in, males can begin to feel angry or threatened so they take physical action to assert dominance. |
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May 22, 2018 7:36 AM
#14
CJ_Kiyoruki said: ohh!! so thats how hormones work (testosterones=i am gonna kick your ass) & (progesterone=lets become a sly bitch and make her life miserable) LOL @Pra_has It's just the way it is. I'm not going to lie and say that we don't physically fight, but most girls prefer to ruin one's reputation and embarrass them rather than confront them and just punch them in the face. When testosterone kicks in, males can begin to feel angry or threatened so they take physical action to assert dominance. jokes aside but i get your point. |
May 27, 2018 5:46 PM
#15
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May 27, 2018 6:54 PM
#16
Pra_has said: i have seen many anime/manga which have some bulling scenes and i have realized that girl bullying a girl is way more horrendous than a guy bullying a guy (in usual its the other way around) like they steal their stuff, put trash in their lockers, write bull in their desks, gather in group to humiliate etc while in guys case they just beat the crap out of him or make him their errand boy. whats your thoughts? EDIT: talk about anime not the real deal in this thread. Its obvious you're referencing Mahou Shoujo Site. |
May 27, 2018 7:09 PM
#17
May 27, 2018 7:10 PM
#18
J_LEE_C said: mahou shoujo site (yes but its too edge...like too much to unbelievable), koukou debut, magical girl apocalyps, even kimi no todoke, koe no katachi, most famous "kurusawa", heck a hell lot of shoujo. Pra_has said: i have seen many anime/manga which have some bulling scenes and i have realized that girl bullying a girl is way more horrendous than a guy bullying a guy (in usual its the other way around) like they steal their stuff, put trash in their lockers, write bull in their desks, gather in group to humiliate etc while in guys case they just beat the crap out of him or make him their errand boy. whats your thoughts? EDIT: talk about anime not the real deal in this thread. Its obvious you're referencing Mahou Shoujo Site. If you want i can give you a whole list. |
May 27, 2018 7:11 PM
#19
Agreed. One reason for this is that guys are expected to either take it or fight back whereas what is the girl suppose to do? Punch them in the face? That's not really something that seems like a viable solution. But even worse is when you have guys or a group of both guys and girls bullying a girl. This is probably the most despicable situation since if anything, the guys should be expected to protect the girl and yet they are doing the exact opposite. Obviously depending on how extreme they're willing to make it, it could also end up leading to borderline sexual assault or rape in this scenario. One recent example being Mahou Shoujo Site. Oh and of course child abuse in general where a full on adult is doing it is the worst of all. In conclusion, it's absolutely despicable and one of the very few things in anime that actually "trigger" me if that's the correct word to use. Doesn't mean I don't still want to watch an anime that has girls being bullied or abused because it can get me invested and make for a good story. Guys being bullied is fine though. They very often deserve it anyway. . . |
May 27, 2018 7:13 PM
#20
i mean they can't just scrap so they have to be creative those scenes are worse than just straight bullying tho |
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May 27, 2018 7:30 PM
#21
vegeta8639 said: well i agree with you bullying a girl is way more cruel than bullying a guy (but they deserve it...i think thats rude plzz we also dont want to get bullyied mam/sir we dudes are also (rarely but still) innocent creatures) while on topic, there is very rarely in anime where guys group up to bully a girl (its more like a single one like koe no katachi or just sexual assault which is worse) but girl bullying a girl is very common (in shoujo ofcourse) and it just too extreame mentally that it "triggers" me.(yeah that was the right word)gAgreed. One reason for this is that guys are expected to either take it or fight back whereas what is the girl suppose to do? Punch them in the face? That's not really something that seems like a viable solution. But even worse is when you have guys or a group of both guys and girls bullying a girl. This is probably the most despicable situation since if anything, the guys should be expected to protect the girl and yet they are doing the exact opposite. Obviously depending on how extreme they're willing to make it, it could also end up leading to borderline sexual assault or rape in this scenario. One recent example being Mahou Shoujo Site. Oh and of course child abuse in general where a full on adult is doing it is the worst of all. In conclusion, it's absolutely despicable and one of the very few things in anime that actually "trigger" me if that's the correct word to use. Doesn't mean I don't still want to watch an anime that has girls being bullied or abused because it can get me invested and make for a good story. Guys being bullied is fine though. They very often deserve it anyway. . . |
May 27, 2018 7:42 PM
#22
landofthekwt said: the ones you mentioned are tsundere romance tactics (like beating their love to half dead ass is just like french kiss in their dictionary, thats not bad the only one bad here are those ass you liked to watch it like how could they find it funny) so in this case the guy is the one who is "selfbullying" yeh thats the word (like they can just smack that grinning face of that tsunbitch) so what you are saying is different topic.Rumiko Takahashi built her career on Lum frying Godai with electricity, Akane dropkicking Ranma across town and Kagome sitting Inuyasha. My only objection in Inuyasha was that every piece of romantic dialogue was replaced with a sit because the animators thought it was funny |
Pra_hasMay 27, 2018 8:36 PM
May 27, 2018 7:58 PM
#23
Pra_has said: the question is why women tends to approach more horrifying way of bullying. Well this is a pretty common scenario in real life as well (unfortunately) and so I think it's safe to assume that this is based (exaggerated to a certain extent maybe?) on real life scenarios. So with that being said, my understanding is that typically girls aren't as confrontational as boys are. So when it comes to boys bullying, it tends to be more physical since it's all about who's the "more dominant" man. With girls on the other hand, since they're not as confrontational as men typically are, I think it's safe to assume that's why they resort to those tactics that you mentioned in your original post. Of course, this is all just my own speculation and I'm not saying that this is 100% factual in any way. |
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May 27, 2018 8:10 PM
#24
I can think about great teacher onizuka. and that show is golden |
May 27, 2018 8:36 PM
#25
Pra_has said: vegeta8639 said: well i agree with you bullying a girl is way more cruel than bullying a guy (but they deserve it...i think thats rude plzz we also dont want to get bullyied mam/sir we dudes are also (rarely but still) innocent creatures) while on topic, there is very rarely in anime where guys group up to bully a girl (its more like a single one like koe no katachi or just sexual assault which is worse) but girl bullying a girl is very common (in shoujo ofcourse) and it just too extreame mentally that it "triggers" me.(yeah that was the right word)gAgreed. One reason for this is that guys are expected to either take it or fight back whereas what is the girl suppose to do? Punch them in the face? That's not really something that seems like a viable solution. But even worse is when you have guys or a group of both guys and girls bullying a girl. This is probably the most despicable situation since if anything, the guys should be expected to protect the girl and yet they are doing the exact opposite. Obviously depending on how extreme they're willing to make it, it could also end up leading to borderline sexual assault or rape in this scenario. One recent example being Mahou Shoujo Site. Oh and of course child abuse in general where a full on adult is doing it is the worst of all. In conclusion, it's absolutely despicable and one of the very few things in anime that actually "trigger" me if that's the correct word to use. Doesn't mean I don't still want to watch an anime that has girls being bullied or abused because it can get me invested and make for a good story. Guys being bullied is fine though. They very often deserve it anyway. . . Well who deserves or doesn't deserve something is purely subjective so just take that as my opinion. And of course nobody wants to get bullied (unless it's some fetish thing) so I obviously wasn't even talking about that. Anyway regarding guys bullying a girl in a group, I have seen it a couple of times again in Mahou Shoujo Site with that rapist asshole and another one that comes to mind is Aura: Maryuuin Kouga Saigo no Tatakai. Basically half the class is bullying this girl although not necessarily at the same time and they are relying on this big guy to be the muscle. Oh and there's this one visual novel called "The way we all go" where the entire class (primary school I believe) was bullying this one girl because she had white hair and blue eyes and it goes into definite sexual harassment (They even pulled her panties down at one point I think). So yea it happens and you can find cases where it's a mixed group doing the bullying although I agree it's not nearly as common as it being just girls. Even in Koe no Katachi, the other kids were pretty much going along with the bullying and laughing along even though the protagonist was doing most of it himself. I guess the main reason why guy on girl bullying is so much worse is because of the larger power difference and also the heavy likelihood of it turning into sexual assault. To make it absolutely clear, I am talking about actual physical harassment here and not boys in class making fun of a girl or calling her names. I don't even consider it bullying unless they're surrounding her after school, touching her or vandalizing her shit. That's about all. |
May 27, 2018 8:46 PM
#26
vegeta8639 said: well than i dont consider it as bullying what you stated here is just sexual harresment and the exaples you given (exept koe no katachi cause its actual bullying) are all sexual assault/harresnent, its way more above what you call bullying. You dont even consider it what are you some hardcore sadist LOLI don't even consider it bullying unless they're surrounding her after school, touching her or vandalizing her shit. That's about all. |
Pra_hasMay 27, 2018 8:57 PM
May 27, 2018 8:56 PM
#27
sekai- said: yeh i agree with you man, like if a child asks you what is bullying and you say just watch anime (cause in our time its just name calling) i bet that child ever want to face school building ever. LOL i mean they can't just scrap so they have to be creative those scenes are worse than just straight bullying tho jokes aside bullying in anime is just too exaggrated |
May 27, 2018 9:52 PM
#28
Girls generally are more passive aggressive than men because they are less confrontational than men on average. A passive aggressive person that bullies will play themselves off as a victim and use gas lighting techniques to get other people on their side. Its actually way worse to deal with a passive aggressive person because they are unpredictable and its easier to gain sympathy from others because they are secretive. They are the type of people that will do shit behind someone's back and never confront the person directly. Even if one confronts a passive aggressive person directly, they are almost impossible to appease because they internalized their victimhood to whatever is done to correct perceived wrongs is never enough. One has to be extremely careful with the words around these types because the wrong phrase or pointing out their bad behavior can set them off. Both men and women can be passive aggressive in real life and one always should be careful around them. If you are their target, be prepared for hell. |
May 27, 2018 10:54 PM
#29
What you mentioned is still pretty tame though. Hard core bullying can involve a guy sodomising the other guy or forcing him to give a blow job (Girl to girl bullying has wsys to become just as nasty I guess) |
May 27, 2018 11:01 PM
#30
Zeruk said: What you mentioned is still pretty tame though. Hard core bullying can involve a guy sodomising the other guy or forcing him to give a blow job (Girl to girl bullying has wsys to become just as nasty I guess) That's pretty fucked up. Great Teacher Onizuka has some girl-to-boy bullying. It's solved in a... weird way. Episode 4 or 5 I believe. Basically three girls bully a guy by beating him up, taking of his clothes and making pictures of him, which they then th reaten to spread around town. |
May 27, 2018 11:04 PM
#31
Zeruk said: bro thats really....like reaallly naasty no guy in the entire world (except gay ofcourse) will like to get blow by a guy.What you mentioned is still pretty tame though. Hard core bullying can involve a guy sodomising the other guy or forcing him to give a blow job (Girl to girl bullying has wsys to become just as nasty I guess) |
May 27, 2018 11:04 PM
#32
i don't think either one is worse then the other. girls and boys have different ways of going about it, but it all sucks. |
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May 27, 2018 11:13 PM
#33
Zeruk said: What you mentioned is still pretty tame though. Hard core bullying can involve a guy sodomising the other guy or forcing him to give a blow job (Girl to girl bullying has wsys to become just as nasty I guess) I have seen these type of people only in prison movies. |
May 28, 2018 12:45 AM
#34
Pra_has said: Zeruk said: bro thats really....like reaallly naasty no guy in the entire world (except gay ofcourse) will like to get blow by a guy.What you mentioned is still pretty tame though. Hard core bullying can involve a guy sodomising the other guy or forcing him to give a blow job (Girl to girl bullying has wsys to become just as nasty I guess) Probably not many. But don't forget that there are some terrible people out there. |
May 28, 2018 1:01 AM
#35
Pra_has said: vegeta8639 said: well than i dont consider it as bullying what you stated here is just sexual harresment and the exaples you given (exept koe no katachi cause its actual bullying) are all sexual assault/harresnent, its way more above what you call bullying. You dont even consider it what are you some hardcore sadist LOLI don't even consider it bullying unless they're surrounding her after school, touching her or vandalizing her shit. That's about all. By "touching" I meant literal touching. Not necessarily sexual. So pushing/pulling, hitting would count and putting things in her shoes or stealing them would be vandalism. So basically anything that isn't purely verbal except maybe something really minor like throwing pieces of eraser or similar childish things. As for Koe no Katachi, he kept pulling out her hearing aids and tossing them which is both vandalism and touching so it is definitely bullying. The point I was making is that just name calling is not on the same level or even close. Credible threats aside, if they're not physically doing anything, it's pretty much whatever in my view. Maybe still not acceptable but when it turns physical is where the line is crossed. And yes, the examples I gave go very far which just proves my point that it's much worse when it's a guy bullying a girl. Either way you seem to have misinterpreted my position but I think I've clarified it now. |
Sep 26, 2020 9:37 PM
#36
I like tsundere but the trope of 'girl group gangs up on MC at skool' is really awful. Unfortunately it's a Truth in Fiction; Japanese schools have a major problem and that's why you see it so much. I have seen boys bullied in a similar way (one shoujo manga I read, they threw another boy's pants out the window. Sounds funny...but it's not. Very mean-spirited....course...attempted murder followed the incident so....it was one of those kind of stories lol My only objection in Inuyasha was that every piece of romantic dialogue was replaced with a sit because the animators thought it was funny @landofthekwt Well, it IS kinda funny but you're exaggerating with "every piece of dialogue". When the show was seriously romantic, it was seriously romantic. |
Sep 26, 2020 9:48 PM
#37
UWS said: I am looking for an anime where a girl bullies boy during childhood and he develops phobia of her do you know its name The first half at least sounds like this: https://myanimelist.net/anime/33487/Masamune-kun_no_Revenge If it isn't, you will have better luck asking here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1751300 |
Sep 26, 2020 11:36 PM
#38
I always get annoyed with how passive aggressive girl bullying is in anime. having been in a public high school, those bitches would have been got their asses whooped. however, because japan is so honor and dignity based no one in the anime calls anyone out on their shit until its too late (and the show has wasted multiple eps of my time). I cant think of anything worse than in 3 gatsu of the lion's den where most of the 2nd season revolves around this gimmick. |
Sep 26, 2020 11:50 PM
#39
renyrells said: I cant think of anything worse than in 3 gatsu of the lion's den where most of the 2nd season revolves around this gimmick. This arc was an extremely realistic and mature take on bullying. Really loved this one. |
Sep 27, 2020 6:05 AM
#40
There is some truth behind it. Often when girls are bullying another girl, they are on a completely different level than boys. They start an actual psychological warfare with starting to tell lies, rumors, first pretend to be friendly and then backstabbing etc ... |
Oct 13, 2020 10:31 AM
#41
Tsunderes are the main girl bullies. Those twisted psychotic bitches... |
Oct 13, 2020 10:38 AM
#42
a silent voice has some very heart breaking bullying scenes too. and here a boy the main bully. Pra_has said: the question is why women tends to approach more horrifying way of bullying. because we are. |
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