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Revvie-chan said: That has to be the most not arousing sex scene I've ever watched. Even the imagination of them having sex fails to make my d stands. lol so true, very disgusting indeed. AobaSuzukaze said: At least after all the political commotion, Theo and Siluca kiss. Lady Marrine was certainly willing to use any tactic necessary to win that fight. 't personally consider I don't personally consider that last scene rape. Marrine gave the ok, and Mirza didn't even force himself on her. He declared it was his goal for the night, but he didn't pin her down without getting consent. She looked she she was regretting it, but she should've said no than. I guess I can see why so many people seem to be dropping this anime after that, but I think you already had good enough reasons from previous episode, and the scene is being made out to be worse than it is. it wasnt rape but it doesnt make it any least disgusting and you dont want your viewers to feel that. She didnt say no since she thought it was a correct choice. No this is the peak of a reason to drop something, everything before it was pretty tame |
Hirugiku said: Revvie-chan said: That has to be the most not arousing sex scene I've ever watched. Even the imagination of them having sex fails to make my d stands. lol so true, very disgusting indeed. AobaSuzukaze said: At least after all the political commotion, Theo and Siluca kiss. Lady Marrine was certainly willing to use any tactic necessary to win that fight. 't personally consider I don't personally consider that last scene rape. Marrine gave the ok, and Mirza didn't even force himself on her. He declared it was his goal for the night, but he didn't pin her down without getting consent. She looked she she was regretting it, but she should've said no than. I guess I can see why so many people seem to be dropping this anime after that, but I think you already had good enough reasons from previous episode, and the scene is being made out to be worse than it is. it wasnt rape but it doesnt make it any least disgusting and you dont want your viewers to feel that. She didnt say no since she thought it was a correct choice. No this is the peak of a reason to drop something, everything before it was pretty tame Even if she thought it was the correct choice, she doesn't have to make it. A leader should choose what they think is the correct choice for their land, but they don't have to do it. Hopefully, it doesn't come back to hurt her too much later. Peak or not, they still could've dropped it earlier. There were enough reasons if people wanted them. They just weren't as extreme. |
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| I would appreciate if people put spoiler tags on my spoilers if they quote me. I don't want to get in trouble lol. |
GreenEmuMar 2, 2018 3:09 PM
Firestalker2015 said: I have no real problem with the ending scene in it's use, but I do have a problem with it's reasons. As in.... I don't know them. She obviously still love the guy since it's shown over and over again that she still cares, even questioning what he would think of her doing something like she after the battle, but still refuses to marry him for a peaceful resolution. Nor does she seem to be fond of your methods but she does them anyway... Why? In case you didn't notice, she can barely control her subordinate Lords now that she's leader. Now that her father is gone, if she tried to marry Alexis, especially after her dad got murdered, the whole Alliance would crumble. |
| Marinne is stupid as fuck...Does she believe that one night stand is equal to 4ever loyalty? Just marry the man you love which is Alexis btw and there will be no war.... I've watch plenty of hentai but I can't believe that I'd get mad on how the fuck Marine act |
Hirugiku said: Revvie-chan said: That has to be the most not arousing sex scene I've ever watched. Even the imagination of them having sex fails to make my d stands. lol so true, very disgusting indeed. It's not just about disgusting, mate. It's about how... this is supposed to be a climax of Marinne's conviction to this whole war affair and another... underline, of Milza's opportunistic nature, but I feel nothing. I feel not of Marinne's bravery, or Milza's cruel method of testing it. At the the final cut of this episode, they showed us Marinne changing stare from a "sexually-aroused" stare into a "brave" stare, which tells you what this scene (and the whole 2nd part of this episode in general, and Marinne's whole existence so far, ultimately) supposed to mean to her. That's it's the epitome of her as a character, a brave pragmatic woman that will do anything to get what she wants, even the most crooked method. But... that scene just happens. Sure there isn't supposed to be any of Marrine's "feeling" in it, as she's casting it away, but the anime fails to make her conviction look... "cool" or "evil" or... any potrayal it was supposed to have (or at least to me it fails.) |
| Is not like she doesn't get Nain said: sirwence said: that still fails to answer any of the points; Why is she* fighting this war.. she could marry the guy she wanted. No war unified empire.. but.. she chooses war. Kills.. and then This? its like watching someone initallyy intelligent simply turn into a dumb tyrant skilled only in war itself nearly. As noted marry the guy she likely still loves and unified continent. Or uh.. whatever the heck shes doing. She claimed in the last episode, when she received a renewed offer of marriage, that she didn't want to fall into the trap of the conspirators who disapprove of their marriage. I agree that the reason isn't really powerful enough to force her into her current line of action. The story definitely has serious 'realism' issues. Finally someone that remember last episodes. The reason she doesn't get married is because of this "dark" that would try to kill them and ruin everything. I understand dark as some monsters, demons and people like Siluca's servant. If both parts gets unified, dark would disappear or be destroyed. It makes sense for me. |
| oh boy, I was already spoiled by the previous episode discussion but I didn't expect it to happen immediately next episode. Really feel bad for Alexis. |
| now let's look at these parallels: Siluca / Marrine - the girl who's desperate to achieve her girls Theo / Alexis - the naive guy who's in love Villar / Mirza - the guy whom the girl can can get help from, has a rapey character design see here, unlike Alexis who is a weakling, Theo was willing to sacrifice everything just to be with his love. He gave away his title for Siluca because he's worried that Villar might include her in his mage waifu harem. maybe because their position was different, but Alexis was unable to do anything, and events have led to Marrine bedding with another dude. it could've been anyone, really. but this is not the end as there is one more way for Alexis to prove his love in stories like this. i'm not expecting anything though. |
| BTW since we got spoilers on what happen later...I'm kind of curious what happen to Siluca's father too |
Revvie-chan said: It's not just about disgusting, mate. It's about how... this is supposed to be a climax of Marinne's conviction to this whole war affair and another... underline, of Milza's opportunistic nature, but I feel nothing. I feel not of Marinne's bravery, or Milza's cruel method of testing it. At the the final cut of this episode, they showed us Marinne changing stare from a "sexually-aroused" stare into a "brave" stare, which tells you what this scene (and the whole 2nd part of this episode in general, and Marinne's whole existence so far, ultimately) supposed to mean to her. That's it's the epitome of her as a character, a brave pragmatic woman that will do anything to get what she wants, even the most crooked method. But... that scene just happens. Sure there isn't supposed to be any of Marrine's "feeling" in it, as she's casting it away, but the anime fails to make her conviction look... "cool" or "evil" or... any potrayal it was supposed to have (or at least to me it fails.) to be fair, there was a guy in the last episode who spoiled this part, so i expected this, didnt think they would do it in the woods and the maids would cry, that made the whole scene even sadder. |
| Really loved that embrace and kiss between Theo & Siluca, may have been way sooner than I had anticipated at first. Would love to see where their relationship will end up at the end of the series, personally hoping for a happy ending for both of them. (Just too early for me to tell) Now those last few minutes... I did not expect this at all, Marrine is someone who would go very far to get what she wants, this "treatment" included... I didn't mind it too much though. |
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| This episode left me with multiple thoughts and feelings, a very good and exciting start, I was really excited in the first half to see the development of the relationship of Theo and Siluca, and the beginning of the second half left me suspicious, thinking about what could become the war , but the ending was frustrating, already imagined that Milza was trash, but seeing Marrine acting like that was really disgusted, especially after showing her story and Alexis. I think it would be better if the first half was inverted with the second and the final romantic would not leave such a bad taste, it was disappointing to wait a week to see this end, but now I know that only the main couple deserves a happy ending, and I want see how they will get it .. |
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GreenEmu said: UkRs said: can any novel reader spoil me if its the only time Milza fucks her and is Milza the only person who fucks her or there are more? and does she and Alexis ever get together? . . anyways.. i am literally depressed.. i mean WTF! that ending! even tho i hate her cuz she's a bitch.. but even thats too much.. i honestly don't care for the Silluca X Theo scene anymore even if i was waiting for it for a long time.. I can spoil you. if thats is that case its more or less what i thought would happen just takes awhile to get there .. and I wonder would the anime actually get there ;p . Would it be incorrect to assume |
Paris_dono said: Welcome to myanimelist lol. Yeah it wasn't rape. She noticed his power and bam took him in on her side.Just make an account because I want to ask something: Am I the only one who like the “arab guy” I mean, he’s strong, he knows what he wants and he smash. That wasn’t a rape scene guys, she wanted something and he wanted something too, she accepted because she wanted his help, that’s all. |
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| I wonder if Theo and Siluca after the kissing scene had sex in the cave lol. Why didn't they show that!! (Also poor horse outside the cave in the rain) |
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PolarCyrus97 said: I wonder if Theo and Siluca after the kissing scene had sex in the cave lol. Why didn't they show that!! (Also poor horse outside the cave in the rain) Well, apparently they did not. Either way, that kissing scene was still passionate and cute enough! :D But wow Theo... I never expect to this progression so quickly! Never expected Theo to be that upfront about it. He really is the type that is humble (letting those with talents do what they do best instead of him) yet also knows when to act. Silica was so confused and blushed the entire time unlike Theo, lol! That scene between Theo and Siluca left me squirming with joy for a quite a while. It was so cute and good! On to Marinne, I understand why she did it (she wants to win no matter what to unite the entire continent) so I can't exactly hate her for it. However, that scene still disgusts me. So I'm feeling really conflicted... Why, Marinne? *sigh* From reading that spoiler by GreenEmu |
| Man I am surprised how many people have taken THAT scene very personally, in any case Theo X Siluca ship finally set sail and it didn't take til the 23rd episode! Hopefully Darling in the FranXX can sort itself out and do the same. |
Swim_Swim said: Very good episode, finally something in the season where not everything ends up happy, loved the NTR, also people accused Theo so bland, yet he probably achieved more than the usual protags with stupid harems... Enjoyed very much Can't agree - I'll be honest, I did not like this episode. Part of that, ofc, is that I absolutely hate NTR. Yes, it's a continual build-up for a major war, but I'm just not liking either Marrine or Aubest. Although I will agree that Theo's character is coming along nicely at this point. And I don't think that Villar is oblivious to what's about to happen. |
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| So many SNOWFLAKES here crying they gonna drop the series after that last scene for the episode , but we all KNOW you will still be watching in HOPE , to see that MOFO MIRZA get killed a terrible DEATH !!! |
| Everyone, just forget about that scene and remember the true scene in this episode, the Theo x Siluca moment. That moment was rose gold. |
Crispy_Chicken said: Breakdown of why the last few minutes made everyone disgusted (including me): 1. She could have said no (e.g. peace treaty and not war). 2. She made the bad/stupid decision (had to make a decision, made the worst one). 3. The guy is a maniac/douche (killer, power hungry, haughty) . 4. We didn't come here for NTR (I get NTR for some hentai, but not when I want to enjoy normal plots) >:( Some of us do not feel disgusted from stuffs in hentai because not all of these conditions are satisfied at the same time. But, in this episode, she failed to reject, choose to be dumb af, did it with a guy no one likes and most of us (generalized, sorry) do not find NTR arousing. 1 - agree 2 - you're argument isn't strong enough - she is CONTINUOUSLY making bad decisions throughout the series 3 - agree, and will also like to see Theo kill him 4 - I'm personally a huge hentai fan, but I generally completely avoid NTR |
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| I honestly had high expectations for Marinne x Alexis. Enjoyed the series up till now even though it wasn't the best, but this episode was just... Sigh.. |
Firestalker2015 said: That would have happened anyway after the marriage... They forming a new country and the Union and Alliance were disappearing to make it... ...It’s one thing for two countries to join together due to political marriage, and a totally different thing for a country to be destroyed due to the internal instability. Besides, the same thing happened to the Union leader, but they're trying for peace. Watch the previous episode again. It’s clear Alexis has little to no actual power in the Union, and has no interest in getting any, which is why he can do what he wants. Even he knows it, which is why he tried to hurry up and make Villar leader instead. |
| Marinne will really do anything for power eii. AND YES Siliuca and Theo is now official. NTR all teh way. |
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| Honestly fuck this shit. I was so hyped for this anime's potential. My gut just dropped at that last scene. Now I have to either drop the goddamn anime or keep watching and have that scene pop up in my mind every time I watch an episode (fcking mental torture). Why'd they have to do us dirty like this? And when I finally thought there was going to be a great anime where the romance actually develops for the MC. They fcking HAD to throw that NTR shit in. |
Alpha101Mar 2, 2018 6:16 PM
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