| I'm currently enjoying Youjo Senki and came to me the thought that I don't see any series that has war as it's main focus, so I went to the military section of the anime search and found out that there's only 430 titles in it. So, is there any specific reason? What do you think of this? |
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| There's been more recently. Last season we had "Shuumatsu no Izetta" and "Brave Witches" War is just not a very popular topic for anime to be based upon. |
| probably the audience they are trying to target isn't reciprocating the attention i bet if we took a stroll down those 430 titles, ~200 are in some way WWII |
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| The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? |
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KazuyaKujo said: probably the audience they are trying to target isn't reciprocating the attention i bet if we took a stroll down those 430 titles, ~200 are in some way WWII Casually, most of them are futuristic, but yeah not many people are interested in the genre. |
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Johnnyd3rp said: The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? Johnnyd3rp said: The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? Because regular war is boring. And superpowers are a way of creating "Alternate universe" so less people get triggered when their country is desteoyed. |
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Johnnyd3rp said: cause superpower/magic is easier to do in animeThe real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? as opposed to realistic, where doing it in live action is easier |
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Noesnecesario said: Johnnyd3rp said: The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? Because regular war is boring. And superpowers are a way of creating "Alternate universe" so less people get triggered when their country is desteoyed. Kingdom sells really well, sadly the anime doesn't give the manga justice. There are also The Ravages of Time or Song of the Long March that are well received as manhua. I'm not sure a realist setting is seen as boring. |
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| Don't worry dude, you'll get more once the WW III is done. I hope you're still alive that time so you can see more angst... |
Johnnyd3rp said: You forgot to add robots. Can't make a good war anime without kids fucking shit up in giant robots :DThe real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? |
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_Ako_ said: Don't worry dude, you'll get more once the WW III is done. As long as Japan doesn't get hit by another nuke. |
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_Ako_ said: if japan wins then we will get more anime and have state mandated catgirl maidsDon't worry dude, you'll get more once the WW III is done. I hope you're still alive that time so you can see more angst... |
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OneNaughtyBear said: Johnnyd3rp said: You forgot to add robots. Can't make a good war anime without kids fucking shit up in giant robots :DThe real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? Wait, there are studios that still think giant robot+war is a good idea? |
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Gohdhand said: _Ako_ said: Don't worry dude, you'll get more once the WW III is done. As long as Japan doesn't get hit by another nuke. Lol... You do have a point there... There's no meaning if Japan lost early...xD romagia said: _Ako_ said: if japan wins then we will get more anime and have state mandated catgirl maidsDon't worry dude, you'll get more once the WW III is done. I hope you're still alive that time so you can see more angst... I can't wait for it m8... xD I need my tsundere maid now... xD |
KazuyaKujo said: Almost 200 of the anime with the military tag also have the mecha tag so pretty much all of the remaining ones would have to be WWII for that to be true. I guess it wouldn't be impossible to have a WWII mecha anime, but it just sounds like an odd combination.probably the audience they are trying to target isn't reciprocating the attention i bet if we took a stroll down those 430 titles, ~200 are in some way WWII |
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| There are almost as many military shows as there are mecha anime...plenty. (Code Geass franchise,every Gundam ever that isn't SD, Gunpla, or Build Fighters, which is...at least 30, Macross franchise) Besides, I don't know now if you've noticed, but 430 is still a lot of anime under one genre. There are plenty of anime with less, like Horror and CGDCT. |
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| Well, you don't have to completely trust genres in MAL. Shingeki no Kyojin is military but it isn't marked as one. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: There are almost as many military shows as there are mecha anime...plenty. (Code Geass franchise,every Gundam ever that isn't SD, Gunpla, or Build Fighters, which is...at least 30, Macross franchise) Besides, I don't know now if you've noticed, but 430 is still a lot of anime under one genre. There are plenty of anime with less, like Horror and CGDCT. Or martial arts, that has 267, What's GCDCT? Still, most are from the common franchises, no stand-alones. |
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| 430 is plenty. It's one of my favorite genres and I never felt undersupplied. |
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SuzuMine-chan said: Well, you don't have to completely trust genres in MAL. Shingeki no Kyojin is military but it isn't marked as one. For me it's more survival with superpowers in a military setting, but not war. |
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Noesnecesario said: Yup. CGDCT stands for Cute Gurls Doing Cute Things.CodeBlazeFate said: There are almost as many military shows as there are mecha anime...plenty. (Code Geass franchise,every Gundam ever that isn't SD, Gunpla, or Build Fighters, which is...at least 30, Macross franchise) Besides, I don't know now if you've noticed, but 430 is still a lot of anime under one genre. There are plenty of anime with less, like Horror and CGDCT. Or martial arts, that has 267, What's GCDCT? Still, most are from the common franchises, no stand-alones. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: Noesnecesario said: Yup. CGDCT stands for Cute Gurls Doing Cute Things.Or martial arts, that has 267, What's GCDCT? Still, most are from the common franchises, no stand-alones. Ah, yes, the ever-hated moe genre, so many people shitting on it and so many new shows still coming out. |
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Noesnecesario said: It's tied with moe but is still a separate genre. Kinda like mecha and military. We just come to associate the two.CodeBlazeFate said: Yup. CGDCT stands for Cute Gurls Doing Cute Things. Ah, yes, the ever-hated moe genre, so many people shitting on it and so many new shows still coming out. |
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rsc-pl said: Because, maybe, I don't care about military and I don't like this stuff? Yeah, I don't either (Mostly), but had curiosity. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: Noesnecesario said: It's tied with moe but is still a separate genre. Kinda like mecha and military. We just come to associate the two.Ah, yes, the ever-hated moe genre, so many people shitting on it and so many new shows still coming out. I'm 99'999999998% sure moe means cute. |
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Noesnecesario said: I'm currently enjoying Youjo Senki and came to me the thought that I don't see any series that has war as it's main focus, so I went to the military section of the anime search and found out that there's only 430 titles in it. So, is there any specific reason? What do you think of this? Let me ask you this: how can you make war interesting after 430 titles about war were already drawn? Bonus hardship points for Japanese losing the most recent big war, and government not sponsoring you much. Let me tell you the worst problem straight away: people who get to fight on the front lines are not the people who get to make important decisions back in the headquarters. |
Noesnecesario said: As stated before, tied together, not the same. Plus, moe includes boys, too.CodeBlazeFate said: It's tied with moe but is still a separate genre. Kinda like mecha and military. We just come to associate the two. I'm 99'999999998% sure moe means cute. |
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flannan said: Noesnecesario said: I'm currently enjoying Youjo Senki and came to me the thought that I don't see any series that has war as it's main focus, so I went to the military section of the anime search and found out that there's only 430 titles in it. So, is there any specific reason? What do you think of this? Let me ask you this: how can you make war interesting after 430 titles about war were already drawn? Bonus hardship points for Japanese losing the most recent big war, and government not sponsoring you much. Let me tell you the worst problem straight away: people who get to fight on the front lines are not the people who get to make important decisions back in the headquarters. As stated above, adding things to it (such as mecha or superpowers), or to put an example I would gladly see an anime about a middle age war or about greek or roman battles. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: As stated before, tied together, not the same. Plus, moe includes boys, too. Is more like CGDCT is moe and moe is not only CGDCT. |
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Noesnecesario said: Basically, hence why they are two different genres. It's like the rectangle and the square.CodeBlazeFate said: As stated before, tied together, not the same. Plus, moe includes boys, too. Is more like CGDCT is moe and moe is not only CGDCT. |
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Noesnecesario said: CodeBlazeFate said: It's tied with moe but is still a separate genre. Kinda like mecha and military. We just come to associate the two. I'm 99'999999998% sure moe means cute. It doesn't though. Kawaii already means cute in japanese. Moe "is a Japanese slang loanword that refers to feelings of strong affection mainly towards characters in anime, manga, and video games. Moe, however, has also gained usage to refer to feelings of affection towards any subject." Moe used in slang refers to feelings of affection, adoration, devotion, and excitement that embodies characters that appear in manga, anime, or video games, into enforcing who they are. Characters that elicit feelings of moe are called "moe characters." The word has also evolved to be used regarding all kinds of topics. Included in the meaning of the word is the idea that "deep feelings felt towards a particular subject" is used in cases where a simple "like" is not enough to express the feeling. The common feature in all feelings of moe is that the subject of such feelings are things that one cannot possibly have a real relationship with, like fictional characters, idols, or inorganic substances. It can be considered a kind of "pseudo-romance," but it is not always seen to be the same as "romance." These are just wiki quotes but they're accurate. Literally everything can be moe in anime, but also tons of cute characters aren't moe for me because I don't feel anything for them. It's a very subjective term. |
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Noesnecesario said: flannan said: Let me ask you this: how can you make war interesting after 430 titles about war were already drawn? Bonus hardship points for Japanese losing the most recent big war, and government not sponsoring you much. Let me tell you the worst problem straight away: people who get to fight on the front lines are not the people who get to make important decisions back in the headquarters. As stated above, adding things to it (such as mecha or superpowers), As it has been said, most of these anime already have mecha or superpowers. Noesnecesario said: or to put an example I would gladly see an anime about a middle age war or about greek or roman battles. Can't help you with greek battles, but 100-years war is featured in Maria the Virgin Witch. I've heard that it is depicted pretty accurately, apart from the moments where armies get crushed by magic. |
Pullman said: It doesn't though. Kawaii already means cute in japanese. Moe "is a Japanese slang loanword that refers to feelings of strong affection mainly towards characters in anime, manga, and video games. Moe, however, has also gained usage to refer to feelings of affection towards any subject." Moe used in slang refers to feelings of affection, adoration, devotion, and excitement that embodies characters that appear in manga, anime, or video games, into enforcing who they are. Characters that elicit feelings of moe are called "moe characters." The word has also evolved to be used regarding all kinds of topics. Included in the meaning of the word is the idea that "deep feelings felt towards a particular subject" is used in cases where a simple "like" is not enough to express the feeling. The common feature in all feelings of moe is that the subject of such feelings are things that one cannot possibly have a real relationship with, like fictional characters, idols, or inorganic substances. It can be considered a kind of "pseudo-romance," but it is not always seen to be the same as "romance." These are just wiki quotes but they're accurate. Literally everything can be moe in anime, but also tons of cute characters aren't moe for me because I don't feel anything for them. It's a very subjective term. Just a manner of speaking, I already know moe means cute. |
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flannan said: As it has been said, most of these anime already have mecha or superpowers. Noesnecesario said: or to put an example I would gladly see an anime about a middle age war or about greek or roman battles. Can't help you with greek battles, but 100-years war is featured in Maria the Virgin Witch. I've heard that it is depicted pretty accurately, apart from the moments where armies get crushed by magic. Yeah, I have it in my PTW list, surprised it's accurate, I thought it was just a magic anime, more reasons to watch it. |
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Johnnyd3rp said: The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? Well, firstly it is because anime cannot easily be written to portray a story as such. Of course art style and the like don't help and so they cannot be taken very seriously. More importantly, they probably won't sell. People tend to get bored to death by serious stories without any traces of comedy, which what a serious war drama should be. Lastly, anime is its own thing and does not need to abide by any laws such as the need to produce more of any set of genre that never really existed in the first place in the medium. In my opinion, I am alright with there not being many which fall under this category but would appreciate a fresh one produced every now and then. |
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Noesnecesario said: Pullman said: It doesn't though. Kawaii already means cute in japanese. Moe "is a Japanese slang loanword that refers to feelings of strong affection mainly towards characters in anime, manga, and video games. Moe, however, has also gained usage to refer to feelings of affection towards any subject." Moe used in slang refers to feelings of affection, adoration, devotion, and excitement that embodies characters that appear in manga, anime, or video games, into enforcing who they are. Characters that elicit feelings of moe are called "moe characters." The word has also evolved to be used regarding all kinds of topics. Included in the meaning of the word is the idea that "deep feelings felt towards a particular subject" is used in cases where a simple "like" is not enough to express the feeling. The common feature in all feelings of moe is that the subject of such feelings are things that one cannot possibly have a real relationship with, like fictional characters, idols, or inorganic substances. It can be considered a kind of "pseudo-romance," but it is not always seen to be the same as "romance." These are just wiki quotes but they're accurate. Literally everything can be moe in anime, but also tons of cute characters aren't moe for me because I don't feel anything for them. It's a very subjective term. Just a manner of speaking, I already know moe means cute. Okay if people still cling to their beliefs when I prove they are wrong there's not really much else I can do. Keep redefining words in your head and ignoring their actual meaning if you think that makes sense... |
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| Because its probably not as popular of a genre as you think it is. idk tbh |
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AntwanMantilla said: Because its probably not as popular of a genre as you think it is. idk tbh I've never thought nor stated it was popular, in fact I'm not a military fan. |
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Pullman said: Okay if people still cling to their beliefs when I prove they are wrong there's not really much else I can do. Keep redefining words in your head and ignoring their actual meaning if you think that makes sense... I really shouldn't have quoted the whole reply while I was just speaking about the first sentence, but you're right. |
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| Modern warfare seems like a cultural phobia/taboo after World War II. Plus they don't have an active military force to base such movies on anyway, it was dismantled after WWII, they just have a national guard for national defense in case they are attacked. Those who want to make them get around this by making "war" series/movies in historical fiction, fantasy, or science fiction environments and setting instead. |
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Kruszer said: Modern warfare seems like a cultural phobia/taboo after World War II. Plus they don't have an active military force to base such movies on anyway, it was dismantled after WWII, they just have a national guard for national defense in case they are attacked. Those who want to make them get around this by making "war" series/movies in historical fiction, fantasy, or science fiction environments and setting instead. Actually since the 2014 they have a bit more freedom and they can exercise military action if an allied country is attacked. After the two japanese killed by the Isis things escalated even further. |
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Johnnyd3rp said: The real question is: Why are there so few military anime without superpower/magic bullshit? After reading some replies for your post, I think we can improve the question again. In something like : Why people still consider animations for "children" or "immature people"? Or Anime isn't considered only for"children", does it? |
| I think one of the big reasons to why this genre isn't more "vast" is because it isn't "based" on a lot of things. These are kinda the categories of military anime: 1) Mecha-Most Mecha anime are also military, cause robots cost a lot of money, and it makes sense that a military will buy and build them. 2) Old wars-There are two types of old wars, the ones who took place in Japan, which are samurai anime for the most part, and ones that wasn't in Japan, that can only have one anime per war (for reasons that I can't explain yet still make sense) 3) Modern Wars-WWII is the only modern/big war that Japan fought (and also lost), so this is probably the only "modern war" military anime we will get out of Japan. Also, I am not talkin about shows like FMA which have military, but it isn't the main focus of the anime. So all in all, we probably won't get any 'CoD-the anime' any time soon....... |
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| Because 'war is bad'! It's actually probably got alot to do with War not being suitable for a wish-fulfillment show. I'll also hazard a guess that a significant number of people who make anime (and the mediums that anime is based off of, Manga, VN, and LN) don't understand war tactics. And even amongst those who don't understand tactics, they probably don't care about investing in learning said tactics. And that war in general is pretty dry and dark. Good thing I like dry and dark things. #nolube |
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jc9622 said: Or Japan is more interested in oversexualized teenage girls than military like we do in the West. That's actually the most original reason in all the thread and the most believable apart of "War does not make money". Thanks. |
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SeidouTZ said: 430 is actually a good amount of titles to be honest. Well regardless, as to why there are so "few" series that have war as their main focus? That can easily be answered by the simply fact that the majority of watchers don't find military type shows to be that interesting by itself to begin with, and without having some sort of supernatural elements is hard for a military anime to gather a wider audience. That was my guess, but a I thought if there was any specific reason. Still, true. |
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