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Oct 29, 2016 3:40 AM
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Stigmata, wanted to save humanity but was betrayed, healing powers.......

Black King's identity seems too obvious and has to be a red herring, right?
Oct 29, 2016 3:40 AM
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Seems like it has more comedy on this episode.
Looking forward for their ambush on the next episode.
Oct 29, 2016 7:50 AM

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This was a necessary episode no matter how you look at it (all of the info galore). And I don't know, time passes so fast for me whenever I watch each episode. It's still going well and I hope it won't disappoint.
A really good series.
Oct 29, 2016 7:56 AM

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The comedy doesn't work they should stop.

Oct 29, 2016 8:22 AM
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why they bother to keep secret black king identity when it obviously jesus when you see the scar on his hand

or maybe there will be twist on his real identity
Oct 29, 2016 8:43 AM

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LOL!!! Love how Murasaki stole fire from EASY's Monologue!!! XD Her Cool Moment lost it's coolness!!!
"Best way deal with BAD GUYS Monologue? Simply not be there!" XD

....Have to admit...Octobrist Organization....was freaking Naive in their preparations against BK and Ends...SImply going to ask Lords to give their troops to War? Was NOT Going to happen until World would be on Brink of Destruction. They should have at least Train their Own Troops and Army and then start Preparing to gathering the Drifters.

Lol...Manipulator Nobunaga starts his moves. Going to defeat Ends but same time...CONQUER THE WORLD!!! XD and Toyohisa as Leader!...and Puppet Master behind the Throne? Nobunaga...Have to say tough...not going to work! XD And..he really tries make himself to be evil...even if he currently is not! XD

Black King...is freaking powerful...
JarjaxleOct 29, 2016 8:48 AM
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill

"Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods

"Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece))
Oct 29, 2016 8:45 AM

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Dicky1 said:
why they bother to keep secret black king identity when it obviously jesus when you see the scar on his hand

or maybe there will be twist on his real identity


~Last Paragraph...Yes...it might be Jesus, but until it is confirmed it is not a fact. Author might be screwing with us.

Low_Ki said:
Stigmata, wanted to save humanity but was betrayed, healing powers.......

Black King's identity seems too obvious and has to be a red herring, right?


Until it is confirmed...took it with Salt! XD

Fai said:
Black King's identity seems to be friggin obvious considering what he did this episode and what he said this episode(not to mention visual cues).


Strawberrycake48 said:
That cliffhanger ;_;

I knew all the Ends hating the world would make sense- I mean I can't really blame Joan of Arc and Hijikata for that tbh. Also had my suspicions about the Black Lord dude either being Hitler or Jesus...the marks of stigmata do indeed confirm that it's Jesus.
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It also can be that Hirano-Sensei is just screwing with us...and as for Hitler....well with no Spoilers...I just say...what this series to end! XD
JarjaxleOct 29, 2016 8:56 AM
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill

"Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods

"Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece))
Oct 29, 2016 8:52 AM

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Olminu got more screentime :D, quite an underrated character.


...Weeellllll.....*Grin* I am somewhat expecting that you have read Manga, so I don't have to say anything about her and her
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Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill

"Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods

"Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece))
Oct 29, 2016 9:38 AM

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TheTsunami said:
Jesus didn't handle rejection very well.
There seems to be a bit of a theme to the ends: those who served their people (or masters) only to be betrayed by them:
Jeanne d'Arc, an ardent Catholic, was tried and convicted by a religious court supposedly following Catholic law, but almost every right she had under that law was violated because it would have been impossible to convict her otherwise.
Grigori Rasputin was murdered by the royal family he was serving.
Anastasia was murdered by her subjects as a result of the Russian Revolution.
Akechi Mitsuhide felt betrayed by Nobunaga after the latter indirectly and unrepentantly caused the murder of a family member, which is what led to his betrayal and eventual death.
Gilles de Rais is a little more complicated, but his family did set the equivalent of a restraining order against him selling property (he was a profligate spender), and there have been persistent rumors that he was set up in the child murder case, a charge lent some credence by who got his estate after he died (his lord).

Jesus, obviously, follows this as well, and can be interpreted to have suffered the ultimate rejection and betrayal by those he tried to help.
Oct 29, 2016 10:40 AM
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I liked it. This anime sure looks promising. Anybody knows how many episodes it will have? Or is it now revealed yet? Any guesses?
Oct 29, 2016 10:42 AM
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Whoahohoooo, Oda you perverted old man.

So somebody is saying that the Black kind is Jesus? If so the the Vatican ought sue the shit out of this anime /manga original creator.
Oct 29, 2016 11:39 AM

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why do i feel like i watched this in the second episode
Oct 29, 2016 11:39 AM

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Whoahoho said:

So somebody is saying that the Black kind is Jesus? If so the the Vatican ought sue the shit out of this anime /manga original creator.

Why?

Hebrew mythology is public domain. The character itself has been used countless of times in the media both japanese and western. There's literally a comic about Jesus kungfu fighting nazis.
Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM

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maaan the comdy is so unfunny.

is it jesus? D:
Oct 29, 2016 2:45 PM

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I strongly believe the Black King is Jesus. There are obvious signs like the hole in the hand and healing that ogre just by touching it. As for the rest of the episode, the comedy was great. There was a lot more than usual, but I still liked it. I laughed a couple times. The trio have great chemistry. Looking forward on what they plan to do to take over the state.
Oct 29, 2016 2:49 PM

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I liked the transition from drifters to ends but the lacks of beard from Rasputin is the most disappointing thing ever 1/5
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Oct 29, 2016 4:23 PM

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Black king is Jesus omfg
Oct 29, 2016 4:23 PM

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Black king is Jesus omfg
Oct 29, 2016 4:52 PM

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Ohh boy this anime is so good. Very funny + cool action settING.
Oct 29, 2016 4:55 PM

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i loved the comedy, less action this episode but i enjoyed it
Oct 29, 2016 5:08 PM

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This is getting really good, but i hope the build-up ends soon. Those that complain about the comedy might as well just drop it, the tones been set already. Although the comedy is Hit-or-miss, it has it good moments. Also the Black king is obviously Jesus

Oda's my fav char, how can you not love this face?
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Oct 29, 2016 5:15 PM
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Ugh an episode full of awful comedies. Worst episode so far

It would be great if Black King is really Jesus



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Oct 29, 2016 6:15 PM

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Yoichi remains the best !
I was afraid that humour would be a little off but it kind of worked in this episode !
Oct 29, 2016 6:23 PM

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Black King Hitler or Jesus? The comedy though I liked it but Its going overboard its not being balanced between the seriousness of the story.

THIS ALSO:
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Oct 29, 2016 8:43 PM
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I could be wrong, but I totally think the dark king is jesus.
Oct 29, 2016 9:30 PM

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10/10

Yoichi and his brotha are so cute.

I really find Oda Nobunaga interesting especially his interaction with Shimazu.
Oct 30, 2016 1:01 AM

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Oda, hands off Olmine! =_=

But maaan, this series is so GAR I love it. <3
Oct 30, 2016 4:12 AM

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my GOD those visuals were to my liking.

Liking the build-up as well. Hyped for some good action.
Oct 30, 2016 5:32 AM

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FUUUUUUUCK the 3 word i hate the most just showed up!! Grrrrrr when i finally manage to catch up with this and this happens .. aaah amazing episode and thrilled for the next episode
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
Oct 30, 2016 3:07 PM
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BenedictusT said:
So the Black King is Jesus himself. Holy Shit.


Amen. the same opinion!!!!!
Oct 30, 2016 3:25 PM

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Becoming my favorite of the fall season, the comedy is hilarious and the action scenes are really cool. Can't wait for next episodes battle.
Oct 30, 2016 3:52 PM

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Good buildup episode, the last scene hyped me a lot. I laughed several times in these episodes, it's weird because I disliked the humor in Hellsing. May be Hellsing was too dark, idk
Oct 30, 2016 4:16 PM

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-Holes in his hands
-I want to save the humans, but they refuse/reject me.

The Black King is Jesus, I love it.

Next episode seems pretty hype and gory, the anime is doing pretty well between the action and the calm.
Also Yoichi and Olminu are waifus.
Oct 30, 2016 6:34 PM

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Yoichi's got a nice round butt.



And I really love the ED.
Oct 31, 2016 6:01 PM

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Wow, the thing with this anime is that I don't like comedy too much, but is getting pretty serious. And now with the guesses that Dark King is Jesus this is gonna get fucking amazing.
Oct 31, 2016 11:53 PM

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The comedy is so fucking horrible, I can't even fathom to fathom why the creators fathomed that should be included. Jesus, this is just disgusting.

Nobunaga's so cringingly terrible.
Nov 1, 2016 5:39 AM
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Oda Nobunaga though >v< All these characters that seemed to be the evil guy back in their countries turned into an approachable hilarious people when being together. Can't wait to see how the battle turns out!!
Nov 1, 2016 5:46 PM

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Too much meh comedy in this episode.

It's going to be funny if the black king really is Jesus. His hands look like they have holes in them lmao
Nov 2, 2016 11:57 PM

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It is episode 4 and I have only now found out that Yoichi is a guy.
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Nov 3, 2016 9:27 AM

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The dialogue drags on too much here, it's honestly a boring watch without the jackass combat.
Nov 3, 2016 1:29 PM

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Black King Hitler or Jesus? The comedy though I liked it but Its going overboard its not being balanced between the seriousness of the story.

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lol Well, that pretty much confirms it. As if it weren't obvious enough...
Nov 3, 2016 3:14 PM

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thebrentinator24 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the Black King is Jesus, all of the Ends seem to be historical figures that were wrongly and/or prematurely killed, and Jesus is definitely considered one of the prime examples of that.

At this point I'm not even going to complain about the comedy anymore, I'll just sound like a broken record. It was a bit more fitting in this episode because there wasn't much going on, but I still didn't care for it.
wow people keep repeating this stupid theory. I mean I would expect it from japanese s they have little to no idea of western culture. Also Rasputin was not killed unjustly. He was a maniac that tried to rule Russia by making fake miracles. Both him and Joahne D'arc where demonically possessed. If they go that way it would be a huge scandal.
Nov 3, 2016 3:15 PM

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Low_Ki said:
Stigmata, wanted to save humanity but was betrayed, healing powers.......

Black King's identity seems too obvious and has to be a red herring, right?
but Jesus dying was part of the plan. I mean he could not beat death and resurrect without dying.
Nov 3, 2016 3:37 PM

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TheTsunami said:
Jesus didn't handle rejection very well.
There seems to be a bit of a theme to the ends: those who served their people (or masters) only to be betrayed by them:
Jeanne d'Arc, an ardent Catholic, was tried and convicted by a religious court supposedly following Catholic law, but almost every right she had under that law was violated because it would have been impossible to convict her otherwise.
Grigori Rasputin was murdered by the royal family he was serving.
Anastasia was murdered by her subjects as a result of the Russian Revolution.
Akechi Mitsuhide felt betrayed by Nobunaga after the latter indirectly and unrepentantly caused the murder of a family member, which is what led to his betrayal and eventual death.
Gilles de Rais is a little more complicated, but his family did set the equivalent of a restraining order against him selling property (he was a profligate spender), and there have been persistent rumors that he was set up in the child murder case, a charge lent some credence by who got his estate after he died (his lord).

Jesus, obviously, follows this as well, and can be interpreted to have suffered the ultimate rejection and betrayal by those he tried to help.

Jeanne d'Arc was deceived by demons pretending to be angels of light.
Grigori Rasputin was a lecherous drunkard that tried to manipulate and control the royal family.
Anastasia Romanov was the victim of a civil war and manipulated by Rasputin
Akechi Mitsuhide was an opportunist truing a coup d'etat and failing
Gilles de Rais was a maniac executat for multiple murders rapes and many others; he was a friend of Jeanne so things do link together as they are all either evil people or people that blindly follow those evil people. Neither of them served their people.

Why would Jesus be grouped with these guys? Makes no sense.
Nov 3, 2016 3:42 PM

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nightcrawlercyp said:
thebrentinator24 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the Black King is Jesus, all of the Ends seem to be historical figures that were wrongly and/or prematurely killed, and Jesus is definitely considered one of the prime examples of that.

At this point I'm not even going to complain about the comedy anymore, I'll just sound like a broken record. It was a bit more fitting in this episode because there wasn't much going on, but I still didn't care for it.
wow people keep repeating this stupid theory. I mean I would expect it from japanese s they have little to no idea of western culture. Also Rasputin was not killed unjustly. He was a maniac that tried to rule Russia by making fake miracles. Both him and Joahne D'arc where demonically possessed. If they go that way it would be a huge scandal.

I wasn't going to respond to this, but I changed my mind because I would like to thank you. Out of all the comments above my original one that said the literal same thing about the "Black King = Jesus" theory, thank you for choosing MINE to respond to, almost an entire week after I posted it, at which point I no longer care about (or even remember, for that matter) what I originally wrote.
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nightcrawlercyp said:
Low_Ki said:
Stigmata, wanted to save humanity but was betrayed, healing powers.......

Black King's identity seems too obvious and has to be a red herring, right?
but Jesus dying was part of the plan. I mean he could not beat death and resurrect without dying.


Not the first time anime/manga has taken liberties with retelling religion. While Evangelion, D-Gray Man and Fate are the most popular it's a very common thing. Though when I reflect, it's kinda funny that the most hilariously offensive version I've seen was from a western comic aka Preacher.
Nov 3, 2016 9:39 PM

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I actually thought this episode was one of the best of so far, maybe it's because the comedy wasn't completely god awful this time.
Nov 4, 2016 12:17 AM
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Low_Ki said:
Stigmata, wanted to save humanity but was betrayed, healing powers.......

Black King's identity seems too obvious and has to be a red herring, right?


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, no way it is who I think they are implying it is.
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Low_Ki said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
but Jesus dying was part of the plan. I mean he could not beat death and resurrect without dying.


Not the first time anime/manga has taken liberties with retelling religion. While Evangelion, D-Gray Man and Fate are the most popular it's a very common thing. Though when I reflect, it's kinda funny that the most hilariously offensive version I've seen was from a western comic aka Preacher.
Low_Ki said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
but Jesus dying was part of the plan. I mean he could not beat death and resurrect without dying.


Not the first time anime/manga has taken liberties with retelling religion. While Evangelion, D-Gray Man and Fate are the most popular it's a very common thing. Though when I reflect, it's kinda funny that the most hilariously offensive version I've seen was from a western comic aka Preacher.

Evangelion is considered one of the worse anime of all time although it had plenty of followers at the time. Fate is more about the Grail myth with has little to nothing to do with christianity and more with druidism. D'Gray is about exorcisms. And there is a big difference. Because it isn't retelling religion but is trying to change the core of christianity. And keeping details from the Biblical account shows it is explicitely directed at that. The core of christianity is Jesus's willing death and resurrection. If that did not happen then christianity is nothing more than madness.
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thebrentinator24 said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
wow people keep repeating this stupid theory. I mean I would expect it from japanese s they have little to no idea of western culture. Also Rasputin was not killed unjustly. He was a maniac that tried to rule Russia by making fake miracles. Both him and Joahne D'arc where demonically possessed. If they go that way it would be a huge scandal.

I wasn't going to respond to this, but I changed my mind because I would like to thank you. Out of all the comments above my original one that said the literal same thing about the "Black King = Jesus" theory, thank you for choosing MINE to respond to, almost an entire week after I posted it, at which point I no longer care about (or even remember, for that matter) what I originally wrote.
I answered your comment because of this piece of sentence " Ends seem to be historical figures that were wrongly and/or prematurely killed" which is false.
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