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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Hmm so Germa Kingdom was a country of science. Interesting...and also the part about the clone soldiers. It's about damn time Sanji fought back as well. No wonder Judge is disappointed in Sanji though with his average human traits. Poor Sanji ;_; |
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| So Judge and Vegapunk were connected in a way after all and used to be a illegal researcher, interesting.... Ah...felt good to see Sanji kicking Niji's face but got his ass kicked...again D: Exoskeletons? So are Sanji's brothers DNAs genetically modified with animal DNAs? Damn... Dats insane.... putting Sanji in a Prison with a iron mask D: |
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| Great chapter. Interesting info on the Germa kingdom, They're actually a leading scientific kingdom and Judge even worked alongside Vegapunk. Looks like the WG interfered in the whole Human cloning experiments but Judge got away. Loved the part where Sanji kicked Niji's face, Though it was sad to see him get beaten up immediately after. :( So all of Sanji's brother's have had mutated genes, In fact I think it was mentioned even Sanji's was but only that he never displayed any visible sign of improvement. Sanji's backstory was a real tear-jerker, The ending with him saying "I'm sorry for being born a weakling" was just heartbreaking on so many levels. T.T Wonder how he escaped and eventually went on to meet Zeff. |
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| This chapter brought in so many answers and foreshadowing in the flashback. 1) Implications that Judge's "offsprings" are bio-engineered 2) Implications that Reiju cares for Sanji (possible chance that she will be the one to side with Sanji, but still an unknown) 3) Vegapunk closely connects to Germa, possibly came from it. This also might imply that Vegapunk will have conflicts with WG in future development. |
 "Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| So, the Vinsmoke siblings might be artificial humans? What if Sanji developed his natural power much later than his brothers? That would explain his strength, but I prefer it if he's like Goku. A weakling he grew stronger through training, not because of his genes. |
| I liked the little detail Oda included about Sanji's mom having passed away. I kept wondering where she was and eventually came to the conclusion that she may have been killed by Judge and that's why Sanji doesn't hit women, but I guess I was wrong. We got more of Sanji's backstory and it looks like the 5 of them were probably also bio-engineered, with only Sanji not showing any improvement. He really had it rough, and it looks like his sister was nice to him but played along with the others for the sake of fitting in with them. Sanji may have been "born a weakling," but his power probably took a bit longer to develop, which most likely explains why his legs can withstand and kick through some ridiculous stuff. I also liked the Vegapunk teaser, this guy is already shrouded in mystery so it's pretty cool to learn that he has a connection to Germa. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Okay that was a great chapter and seeing Sanji past but can we say that the Vinsmoke is the most hatred in One Piece now and i think Reiju might be the only one who can have redemption. Sanji might becomes really strong this arc if his potential awaken. |
kaitonicSep 21, 2016 5:06 AM
| A lot of answers in this chapter. Poor Sanji got some really bad luck. Fuck his siblings and father! |
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| "unlimited potential" that is the key for this chapter. |
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| This chapter was amazing ;,( |
| cant have a strawhat without a fucked up past am i right ? XD also, as per oda standard, we're diving into the whole family blood and bonds thing as usual, and it seems this arc we're going for the whole talent and failure type story and the whole everyone is born different due to the whole for some reason, sanji is a failure thing going on, those this raises the question, the fact that sanji can do all his shit, doesnt that mean he technically still managed to awaken the powers and shit |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
| Wow, that was amazing Sanji's past is fucked. We got so many nice reveals tho. Awesome to see the confirmation that Vegapunk and Judge were connected and that Sanji's mom is dead. Dat Henry Needle looked like it hurt so damn much O_O But it was satisfying to see Sanji kicking Niji. So they're actually modified humans?? Damn Reiju not being part of the bullying and just trying to fit in was another cool confirmation I'm guessing nxt chp we'll see how he escapes? |
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| Dont get too fooled young One piece readers, Reiju could be just pulling one of those "Only caring for you now for a bigger satisfaction out of your pain" and later bigger backstab, need more touching moments to be fully convince she truly cares for Sanji. Sanji bad past even goes further from the time he was stuck on the rock with Zeff...so very deep |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| Onward to Sanji's past now! Really neat to see the details of the Vinsmoke siblings being modified humans and how Sanji ended up being deemed the failure of the family. His escape will most likely be in the next chapter. Sanji getting pummeled right now because of the hostage situation he's in. Can't wait to see him completely let loose when the time comes. It'll be so gratifying. |
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| We get some interesting info from this chapter as usual.. Damn, Sanji's past was really heartbreaking :( |
| The Germa and Vegapunk stuff were interesting, but this can bring up the possibility of Sanji being a 'clone', maybe a failed one, since in this chapter the others excel more than him... sounds a bit far fetched but we'll see. |
| well that was a really fucked up and hearbreaking past. I feel bad for you, Sanji. but I hope you got something up on your sleeve. for example, maybe Sanji actually is the most "unlimited potential" and continue to grow stronger while the other siblings stop growing at certain age. |
| This chapter blinded me with science tears. I get that everyone has a sad backstory in this series but hot damn, Sanji. :( All these chapters with Sanji and his family are so good, though, way to go Oda. |
| Very depressing chapter.Judge worked with Vegapunk,before his arrest by the WG to create clone armies.Sanji's siblings have mutated genes that gives the unlimited potential so they are considered artificial in some way.Sanji though is a failure and because it was impossible for him to catch up with his siblings they faked his death,while they locked him in a dungeon alone. Seriously,Sanji's torture never ends. |
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Yeah... Luffy also PLOTTWIST - Sanji meets Vegapunk and he helps him discover his 'hidden powers' to powerup.. though it would be better if that would've happen before Sanji would arrive here, otherwise he can't beat the brothers/father |
| Can't wait for Sanji to beat the crap out of his brothers and father. His sister's fine though... for now. |
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| I wonder if the Lineage Factor has anything to do with the Will of D. |
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| What a chapter OMG !!!!!!!! I never tought of this life for Sanji, I cried so much for him during those little 20 pages, OMG!!!! I want to give him a hug, I hate his family more than before now! |
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| Sanji's father worked with Vegapunk :O Clone Soldier Depot looks like a force, but unless they're all sanji lv they aren't worth much. Reiju looks like a good guy now, maybe she will release sanji. |
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| so basically Sanji's siblings are GMOs~ |
NaughtyNoddy said: I wonder if the Lineage Factor has anything to do with the Will of D. If I remember correctly, "Lineage Factor" is the thing that Caesar use to make SMILE. |
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| Also, I dont know if people realise this, but this can very explain how Sanji can turn into "fire" and Diable Jambe. Niji seem to do his version but lightning. It's possible there's some manipulation in Sanji's body. |
"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| So Judge & Vegapunk worked together. Would be cool to see him in this arc. Clone creation & creating life. Sanji getting a kick in to Niji's face, but that knee to the back. Argh the Vinsmokes are the freaking worst. Sanji had such a terrible childhood. Just keeps getting worse. A failure in Judge's eyes & locked up. These bastards need to get destroyed. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Another great chapter by Oda. Ok, to me, the Vinsmokes have surpassed Bellamy, Crocodile & Doffy in the "I can't wait to see their tails kicked" category. Sanji got the better of his one brother with that kick to the face & then had to take a butt stomping or else watch those he cares about be killed. I still can't get a good lock on his sister. Does she really care for Sanji, or is she building him up so she can get more pleasure out of his pain? Interesting twist on the clone army story line with the clones not knowing that they are clones. Sanji's past is messed up & only getting more tragic. I can't wait to see what happens next & really can't wait for Luffy & his Strawhats,(fingers crossed Jimbe is with them), get their to help him. |
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| Fantastic chapter on sanji's past. He was brought up to be a war leader but instead he got found that the Germa team created a 'normal' human being. Its good to see Sanji fighting back but if he got caught and murked that easily then probably those brothers are uber strong. |
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tr1ckst3r said: NaughtyNoddy said: I wonder if the Lineage Factor has anything to do with the Will of D. If I remember correctly, "Lineage Factor" is the thing that Caesar use to make SMILE. Right, I had forgotten that detail http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Artificial_Devil_Fruit |
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XPwnDEnd said: Anyone else see the parallel between this and the Baratie arc where Gin held Zeff hostage?Onward to Sanji's past now! Really neat to see the details of the Vinsmoke siblings being modified humans and how Sanji ended up being deemed the failure of the family. His escape will most likely be in the next chapter. Sanji getting pummeled right now because of the hostage situation he's in. Can't wait to see him completely let loose when the time comes. It'll be so gratifying. |
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| does anybody remember Duval, and his mask........... Oda is a genius #foreshadowing |
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| I screamed in joy when Sanji kicked Niji's face. |
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| In the chapter 227 Sanji said that he had read ''Norland,the Liar'' when he was a child,in that chapter the child Sanji was reading a book in the page 14,do you realise what book is that? Oda it's a fricking genius. |
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G_Spark233 said: A lot of answers in this chapter. Poor Sanji got some really bad luck. Fuck his siblings and father! Oh m god , your display photo is so... daring if i must say. |
| The past of Sanji is deep. I don't know whether that sister is nice or what... |
| Really interesting to be getting more of Sanji's past this deep into the manga. Crazy how he was treated. |
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