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| So now, Haruhiro will become a bit more badass or not ? |
| Now i know why manato is being classified as a supporting character in the anime page. Meanwhile i see a new face, mary, who is also a priest, i suppose she will become the new healer of the team, now the chicks vs dicks ratio is even lol. That aside, both hands up for the great bgm. |
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| I haven't touched the LN yet and now I'm wavering. Because my favourite and the basically the character that balances it all dropped dead right at the beginning of the series. Like, seriously? What kind of author kills off almost the main character right away? What's up with all that buildup with Shihoru, for example? No point in showing us the hints of romance that will never happen now. I thought it was great that such a character was in this series but now I guess it's going to be all fighting bakas? He died so soon it was too early to cry/to feel sad, whatever. I guess I'm not the only one who hasn't fully realized it yet. I also understand his decision to save everyone which basically showed his character, it was very Manato. What I feel REAL SAD about is not his death but the fact that the guy will never know who he was before he came to Grimgar. Don't you find it sad? Dying in an unknown country for an unknown purpose, forgetting all people important to you. I find it really really sad. |
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| I used to be in Grimgar, but then I took an arrow to the back. All those death flags mang. Really liked Manato, too. rest in priest ;__; |
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| Fantastic episode. Reading comments and reviews seems like those who were expecting an action show are slowing starting to drop it which I am happy about. It is NOT about the action. So many people expected SAO. I honestly find this story-line alot more engaging. Really liked Manato, but I knew his death was going to happen. Called it in episode 2 thread. Interested to see how the characters progress know that they know the feeling of death of a friend. |
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| How have you guys interpreted Manato's last words? I'm sorry, I'm counting on you (to lead the party etc.). Or. I'm sorry, for counting on you (I'm dying because of you). I didn't expect him to be killed off so fast, it was always bound to happen, MC can't just be a party member, he has to be the leader. |
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Fappa said: To clear some things up. What happened in this episode introduced us to a dark side which will control this story. Death is an omnipotent thing that can happen anytime to anyone, that’s what this tries you to teach. For the first time they’ve faced the consequences of their actions in the most direct way, death. Some people maybe think now „I can’t feel bad for his death when I barely knew him as a character“ and yes that’s somewhat the point. Neither we or them really knew Manato as a person. We as the viewer and them as a team were on the way to get to know each other more but with a finger snap he’s gone like that, forever. It’s supposed to show us and them how fast a human being can die in the blink of an eye and because of a single mistake. And we see how hard his death hits them emotionally. Each character reacts individually to this and will develop into a different direction. This is the first of many traumatizing things they will have to suffer. First the act of killing but now they face an even more traumatizing experience. The death of a human being that they have known and spent every single day with. It’s actually interesting to see how every single one of them has a different facial expression and gestures, shows you how those basic characters slowly develop into actual complex characters. So what mistake did they actually do that cost Manato his life? Both Manato and the others made mistakes over and over again without knowing it. - Manato was way too cautious. He basically healed every single wound even if it was just a scratch and hurt a little bit which caused him to run out of stamina really fast. You can’t blame him he was scarred about the others’ well being and maybe also couldn’t estimate the seriousness of the wound. So in the end it all came down to inexperience and lack of communication. - Also did you realize that their priest, their healer, was constantly at the front lines basically acting like a tank? The one class that was supposed to be the farthest away from battle was the focus of the battle instead. This was bound to fail sooner or later but they couldn’t help it. Now they are deprived of their healer, their leader and most of all their voice of reason. If you think about it Manato did a lot of things therefore his loss is especially hard for them. Manato supervised their finances, he gathered information about good hunting grounds, he planned what they would do each day, he made the strategies and made the calls for certain actions in combat and most of all he was the person that brought them together and kept them together. -For Shihoru he was the person to see her weak personality and comfort her. They emphasized on that with the scene at the start -For Yume he was the most caring person who looked out for others, especially Shihoru. -For Haruhiro he was the closes to a friend in this world. -For Ranta, well I guess he was the one keeping him at a leash. -For Mogzo he was another person with a rather calm personality with whom he could be at ease. Now all that is gone and you see how hard it hits them. Right now they don’t have a perspective and not the will to go on. Soon enough they will have to move on and they have to ask themselves… Where do we find ourselves another healer? Who will be the leader from now on? How do they have to change in battle, where can they improve and let something like that not happen again? These are some of the things that we will have to see in the upcoming episodes. I simply love the ending sequence where they show how they say their goodbyes to Manato by scattering his cremated remains with the wind. As a LN reader I'm satisfied. Fantastic post that I hope everyone reads. I do think people are still confused by the type of show the creators are trying to make. I saw some comments with people hoping for some type character becoming OP all of a sudden. I guess today's genre's really are corrupting the type of shows people want to see. To me, there are ENOUGH of those OP main characters who never loses a fight. Again for those watching it wanting action. It might be time to think about droping it. Not trying to be rude at all either, it just is not the point of this show... |
| Call me anything you want, but I wasn't expecting his death. Maybe I was expecting some character not so relevant to die sooner o later, but not Manato. It kind of caught me off guard. Can't wait for the next episode. |
Sieye said: Fappa said: To clear some things up. What happened in this episode introduced us to a dark side which will control this story. Death is an omnipotent thing that can happen anytime to anyone, that’s what this tries you to teach. For the first time they’ve faced the consequences of their actions in the most direct way, death. Some people maybe think now „I can’t feel bad for his death when I barely knew him as a character“ and yes that’s somewhat the point. Neither we or them really knew Manato as a person. We as the viewer and them as a team were on the way to get to know each other more but with a finger snap he’s gone like that, forever. It’s supposed to show us and them how fast a human being can die in the blink of an eye and because of a single mistake. And we see how hard his death hits them emotionally. Each character reacts individually to this and will develop into a different direction. This is the first of many traumatizing things they will have to suffer. First the act of killing but now they face an even more traumatizing experience. The death of a human being that they have known and spent every single day with. It’s actually interesting to see how every single one of them has a different facial expression and gestures, shows you how those basic characters slowly develop into actual complex characters. So what mistake did they actually do that cost Manato his life? Both Manato and the others made mistakes over and over again without knowing it. - Manato was way too cautious. He basically healed every single wound even if it was just a scratch and hurt a little bit which caused him to run out of stamina really fast. You can’t blame him he was scarred about the others’ well being and maybe also couldn’t estimate the seriousness of the wound. So in the end it all came down to inexperience and lack of communication. - Also did you realize that their priest, their healer, was constantly at the front lines basically acting like a tank? The one class that was supposed to be the farthest away from battle was the focus of the battle instead. This was bound to fail sooner or later but they couldn’t help it. Now they are deprived of their healer, their leader and most of all their voice of reason. If you think about it Manato did a lot of things therefore his loss is especially hard for them. Manato supervised their finances, he gathered information about good hunting grounds, he planned what they would do each day, he made the strategies and made the calls for certain actions in combat and most of all he was the person that brought them together and kept them together. -For Shihoru he was the person to see her weak personality and comfort her. They emphasized on that with the scene at the start -For Yume he was the most caring person who looked out for others, especially Shihoru. -For Haruhiro he was the closes to a friend in this world. -For Ranta, well I guess he was the one keeping him at a leash. -For Mogzo he was another person with a rather calm personality with whom he could be at ease. Now all that is gone and you see how hard it hits them. Right now they don’t have a perspective and not the will to go on. Soon enough they will have to move on and they have to ask themselves… Where do we find ourselves another healer? Who will be the leader from now on? How do they have to change in battle, where can they improve and let something like that not happen again? These are some of the things that we will have to see in the upcoming episodes. I simply love the ending sequence where they show how they say their goodbyes to Manato by scattering his cremated remains with the wind. As a LN reader I'm satisfied. Fantastic post that I hope everyone reads. I do think people are still confused by the type of show the creators are trying to make. I saw some comments with people hoping for some type character becoming OP all of a sudden. I guess today's genre's really are corrupting the type of shows people want to see. To me, there are ENOUGH of those OP main characters who never loses a fight. Again for those watching it wanting action. It might be time to think about droping it. Not trying to be rude at all either, it just is not the point of this show... Thank you very much for quoting this post, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it. On my behalf, I was afraid that it'd turn into an action-only show, and I'm really happy it didn't as I was completely persuaded with the episode in which they kill their first goblin. I'm really looking forward to reading the novels now. Now, where do I find the time for that now... |
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LeeNoriega said: What I feel REAL SAD about is not his death but the fact that the guy will never know who he was before he came to Grimgar. Don't you find it sad? Dying in an unknown country for an unknown purpose, forgetting all people important to you. I find it really really sad. I think it is better this way. From the hints about his past I suppose he wasn't happy in the previous world. He thought he was "not the kind of person people usually treat as friend", remember? I believe Grimgar was actually the best what happened in his life. He was finally valued and needed. He finally had friends. He died too early but he died happy. Learning who he was in previous life would probably be painful for him. |
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| *Sigh* Bye bye, best guy -_- Also this |
Good catch, the team that has been animating this seems to be forgetting details from just seconds before like the arrow in Manato's back and now Yume's bag has mysteriously disappeared. They need to step up their game in this regard, since we can notice this stuff you would think someone that has to look over these details and get it reviewed would notice it too -_-. |
Cejara said: Good catch, the team that has been animating this seems to be forgetting details from just seconds before like the arrow in Manato's back and now Yume's bag has mysteriously disappeared. They need to step up their game in this regard, since we can notice this stuff you would think someone that has to look over these details and get it reviewed would notice it too -_-. Not just that, the colour of the legs, they're weird |
Kiev said: Cejara said: Good catch, the team that has been animating this seems to be forgetting details from just seconds before like the arrow in Manato's back and now Yume's bag has mysteriously disappeared. They need to step up their game in this regard, since we can notice this stuff you would think someone that has to look over these details and get it reviewed would notice it too -_-. Not just that, the colour of the legs, they're weird Yeah I thought her leg colour was messed up too, but she's wearing high socks don't forget (although it some sequences it really doesn't look like it) And I so didn't notice the missing bag. Did someone take it or is that an animation problem? |
| They paced it really well up until now but the death scene was too flat and rushed, it needed a few more dramatic shots IMO. Without them I couldn't immerse in their emotions. And would you cut out the lyrics in the music, please? |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: I actually have no idea how someone made this dumb assumption when it wasn't Haruhiro's fault at all (he even got injured trying to protect Manato at the start). Because no ones ever been blamed for something that was out of their control before, right? Just like Kirito wasn't blamed for the deaths of those in his party in SAO, even though he tried to warn them and did his best to protect them ;) All sarcasm aside, you may very well be right and most likely are, but you can never rule out other theories until you have more information. |
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Inugirlz said: Yeah I thought her leg colour was messed up too, but she's wearing high socks don't forget (although it some sequences it really doesn't look like it) And I so didn't notice the missing bag. Did someone take it or is that an animation problem? Yup but in that scene she wasn't wearing any, it looks like the one who added the colour to that scene mistook her legs with the high socks :I and about the bag, I think it could be a perspective problem rather than a drawing mistake. |
| So what is a noob group going to do without a healer.. I wonder if the MC becomes healer now or something.. doubt it.. but it sure will be very hard now to do anything. nice episode. |
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| I watched it while on the way to work today and almost started bawling in the elevator... no!!!! If the next episode does this to me I might have to drop it. |
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| Overconfidence to what would lead to a grueling struggle and a heartbreaking death. None of that in this adaptation. Horrible episode. |
| This pacing... Three eps of nothing and then suddenly manato dies. |
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| It was nice to see that there is little shield when it comes to death but they could have held off just a little longer.. Great episode anyway |
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| Wow this episode got kind of dark. The squad got careless and this was the result. RIP Manato |
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WinnDixieX3 said: Exactly the same here, I was like "NO, NOT THE DEATH FLAG ;A;" "NOW YOU'VE DONE IT". Gawd, well it was expected to some degree.As soon as I heart Haru saying "There are many other chances to ask" I jumped from my chair and went like "Did you just freaking raise a death flag?!" and the next sentence confirmed it and it was so saaad :( Poor Manato... And also I feel sorry for the pink haired girl... I wonder how the group will now act without their "leader" (and a priest as well, they will have to find someone with a healing skill or acquire it somehow by themselves)... :( This show is good and it hurts. :( |
| Poor Manato, he received the Akame ga Kill's treatment (not that his death wasn't obvious taking into account the deaths flag of the beginning and when Haruhiro had that thought of "so I believed". The death scene wasn't too emotional to me, but the funeral part was well done. Now that the plot device is dead, the plot can move. Btw, dat Jouji Nakata priest this episode. |
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| Did like the episode very much, A lot of feels to get a hold off. This series is certainly a nice watch :) |
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IzayoiSk said: So now, Haruhiro will become a bit more badass or not ? I already said that this will occur in the Vol. 3. after the death of his first love. Haruhiro is the only character who wins development and maturation, among the main characters, Haruhiro is the only one that has relevance to the plot and story. - Yume has the genki mentality, along the LN it does nothing of relevant, importance and nothing that deserves prominence, in addition to not add a lot to story and plot. Yume is the character of fanservice of Grimgar. - Ranta is the stupid and retarded friend of the MC, Ranta is the character who does stupid things and retarded throughout the show and serves to comic relief, but he also has the aggravating factor to be boring and annoying. - Manato is the character of self-insertion of author as Hayato Hayama was Oregairu, that character that is perfect at all and still have all girls interested in him. - Mogzo not much to talk about he. - Shihoru like this as Yume is another heroine generic, Shihoru is shy stereotype, like this as Yume and Ranta, Shihoru does nothing of relevant and prominent along the LN and also not add or not add anything to the plot and history of Grimgar. even the new characters that appear throughout history in LN and supporting characters seem more important and relevant, in addition to having moments and more prominent important, relevance and memorable along the LN, Apart from adding and be more relevant to story and plot that Grimgar than Yume, Ranta, Mogzo and Shihoru together throughout LN. really people's knowledge about the LN is practically non-existent. if you guys do not want to read the LN or at least seek information and knowledge about source material of Grimgar, you guys should wait at least the show ends, and stop publishing these ridiculous and biased evaluations and conclusions about the story and the characters. No matter what is the best character in the show, the plot-driver, the one who pushes the narrative forward. because in the end we will have a generic and repetitive waifu, without POV, without interior monologues, without development, with shit personality, Mary-sue, CGDCT or Moe, plot device for developing the MC, just the love interest of MC, a character to fanservice, without depth, poorly written, repetitious, beating in men and/or in the MC throughout the show, most often barely have screen time, useless, does not add anything at all to story and plot of the show. Completion in 95% of shows this character will be the most popular of the show. So it is no surprise that 95% of the shows in MAL has this type of character as the most popular of show. And as expected, in Grimgar is no different, and again this kind of character is the most popular of the show. |
Cr7_vi_BritanniaFeb 3, 2016 5:13 PM
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| I honestly didn't feel anything for the death of Manato. He always felt a little distant as a character, as if he was hiding something about himself or about the world. His death was somewhat foreshadowed by the brief talks he had with Haruhiro. You felt some impending doom from him. Art is superb as always. |
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said: IzayoiSk said: So now, Haruhiro will become a bit more badass or not ? I already said that this will occur in the Vol. 3. after the death of his first love. Haruhiro is the only character who wins development and maturation, among the main characters, Haruhiro is the only one that has relevance to the plot and story. - Yume has the genki mentality, along the LN it does nothing of relevant, importance and nothing that deserves prominence, in addition to not add a lot to story and plot. Yume is the character of fanservice of Grimgar. - Ranta is the stupid and retarded friend of the MC, Ranta is the character who does stupid things and retarded throughout the show and serves to comic relief, but he also has the aggravating factor to be boring and annoying. - Manato is the character of self-insertion of author as Hayato Hayama was Oregairu, that character that is perfect at all and still have all girls interested in him. - Mogzo not much to talk about he. - Shihoru like this as Yume is another heroine generic, Shihoru is shy stereotype, like this as Yume and Ranta, Shihoru does nothing of relevant and prominent along the LN and also not add or not add anything to the plot and history of Grimgar. even the new characters that appear throughout history in LN and supporting characters seem more important and relevant, in addition to having moments and more prominent important, relevance and memorable along the LN, Apart from adding and be more relevant to story and plot that Grimgar than Yume, Ranta, Mogzo and Shihoru together throughout LN. really people's knowledge about the LN is practically non-existent. if you guys do not want to read the LN or at least seek information and knowledge about source material of Grimgar, you guys should wait at least the show ends, and stop publishing these ridiculous and biased evaluations and conclusions about the story and the characters. No matter what is the best character in the show, the plot-driver, the one who pushes the narrative forward. because in the end we will have a generic and repetitive waifu, without POV, without interior monologues, without development, with shit personality, Mary-sue, CGDCT or Moe, plot device for developing the MC, just the love interest of MC, a character to fanservice, without depth, poorly written, repetitious, beating in men and/or in the MC throughout the show, most often barely have screen time, useless, does not add anything at all to story and plot of the show. Completion in 95% of shows this character will be the most popular of the show. So it is no surprise that 95% of the shows in MAL has this type of character as the most popular of show. And as expected, in Grimgar is no different, and again this kind of character is the most popular of the show. Yikes. Something tells me we won't get to Vol.3 thought. I really hope this "GF" of his isn't the one I'm thinking of because that would actually make me sad. |
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| Honestly I thought the series would've made a real good start if they'd just bluntly killed off a character. But frankly.... it didn't, in my opinion. The pacing is really ridiciously slow. Even the animations on some parts are just ridiciously slow. In my opinion it doesn't feel realistic. It just feels so awfully slow and it annoys me at times. The fact that I don't care about Manato dying has everything to do with that. I don't have any "feels" at all, not even for one second. I believe it's a good thing to show people how harsh life can be and how easily someone dies in a RPG-"realistic"-world. But not this way. It's just... plain bad to be honest. It feels very forced. The part where the group is "sad" also felt very forced. For a 12 episode anime I really wonder how they are going to pull things off. I still watch because I'm actually still interested in the plot and how they are going to introduce "the real life" or "how everything was before". But if it's just going to be plain fillers then I'll probably drop it even if it means to drop at episode 7 or so. |
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| Really surprised at what happened in this ep. I didn't think it had the courage to kill off one of the group, let alone a healer at that. Even though I didn't care enough about Manato himself, I certainly felt how it negatively affected the group. I have a feeling that there will always be a air of sorrow underlying this series and I'm really interested in how the group will progress from this loss. I'm getting more hooked week after week. |
moeanao said: Manato was like the only character I kind of liked. Rather than sadness, I felt anger instead? I did see his death coming tho. Now that he's dead, I wish I would like any of the other characters even a little, but I don't feel anything for them. That's because Manato was type a boy you can find in Shojo, or manga for girl something like this. So they killed him for have impact on viewer. Time for Haruhiro to be a mon-mon-monster killer ! like we said in cs:go. btw when you see "Drama" in "genre" of the anime you know someone will die and this rules is universal (90% animes ). Thanks for spoil MAL. <3 (sry bad english xP ) |
AkaihiroFeb 3, 2016 2:52 PM
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| it is sad-na but a good reminder to let them grow-na I like how Yume telling stories-na the way of her speaking-na, very intresting-na! wait, I think it is more cute than interesting-na yume cute-na I like her :3 hahaha |
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| Really enjoying this anime so far, did not expect to see a death so early in the series and I was shipping Manato and Shihoru... hopefully Shihoru becomes stronger after this incident. |
| Now THIS is a good episode! Made me feel some stuff, and I'm really digging the slow-pace feel, honestly. I think the insert song this episode was actually pretty well placed, helping to kind of simmer down after the angst fest. Can't wait to see how the story will progress after this tragedy. Glad I kept watching after the first three mediocre episodes, and hopefully the entertainment value just keeps going up. (awkward moment when a character death equals entertainment?? idk I have a weird mind) Although, I think the line Haruhiro said before he got shot was really cheap, since it was basically a disclaimer "okay viewers, get ready for Manato to die!" But, that's probably my only gripe. Which is a new record for this series, so there ya go |
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| I wonder if he will stay dead though. A lot of action shows like to revive their dead characters, so I still have a bit of hope left. Manato was best boy. Nevertheless, I'm still sad because I didn't like anyone but Manato and the MC. They need to step up their game and improve the rest of the characters. Also, I think this show is overdoing the music. An insert song in EACH FUCKING episode. You know the acoustic guitar song they use in the "Next episode preview"? Yeah, just use that during the sad scenes and I might have cried more. They have a fantastic seiyuu cast. You don't need any insert songs to cover it up. shuryukan said: yeah lol, it's too weird.This pacing... Three eps of nothing and then suddenly manato dies. |
Mayuka said: I wonder if he will stay dead though. A lot of action shows like to revive their dead characters, so I still have a bit of hope left. . nah they cremated his ass RIP |
Zeally said: Well, it's a video game or fantasy world. Anything could happen.Mayuka said: I wonder if he will stay dead though. A lot of action shows like to revive their dead characters, so I still have a bit of hope left. . nah they cremated his ass RIP |
Mayuka said: Well, it's a video game or fantasy world. Anything could happen. he got cremated so its pretty much all over. if they had left manatos body the deathless king would have breathed false life into him and turned him into a zombie. its realistic enough in the sense that the dead dont return to life but its still a fantasy setting with an already established king of the undead so yeah obligatory reanimated corpses lol... |
| im just happy this kind of genre are not made for comedy/entertainment. god im sick of those shows. |
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