Illegal or Legal Streaming sites?
I always use Legal
9.7%
65
I always use Illegal
40.9%
275
Sometimes legal, sometimes illegal.
24.0%
161
If legal sites have the show I want, sure.
25.4%
171
672 votes
| 90% of time illegal |
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| are there even legal streaming sites these days other than crunchyroll? |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
| No ill will against legal sites like Crunchyroll ( i think it is a great legal alternative), but I'm just a cheap mother fucker I'll feel obliged to subscribe maybe later in the future :P |
| I dont stream anime |
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| I always use legal streaming but I torrent OVAs/Specials and such that never get streamed and shows that aren't licensed for streaming. |
sammario said: those give limited anime'slnfo said: are there even legal streaming sites these days other than crunchyroll? Netflix and Funimation. so most of us are cornered to flee to illegal streaming sites |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
| download master race |
j0x said: download master race |
| Illegal. But i rather buy the mangas with the money. |
sammario said: Feaor said: I always use legal streaming but I torrent OVAs/Specials and such that never get streamed and shows that aren't licensed for streaming. Same here. I understand some people are just cheap bastards, but I think there's something wrong when you search for "anime streaming" and not only is the search full of illegal sites, one illegal site appears before an actual legal site. It's like if video game piracy became so big that when you searched for a game, a torrent website came up (which actually happens a lot of times with anime) That's because video game developers and publishers have taken the road of spreading their content to maximize profit. If video games were handled the same way as anime, you would have to go to three different stores to get three different games that were just released. Not because they're sold out or anything, but because the producers for said product just don't bother spreading their product to all of the mentioned stores. Japanese marketing is really shotty when it comes to areas outside of Japan. And that's majorly why there is a lack of "legal" anime sources to watch or download shows. |
| Always legal, unless CR or Hulu don't have a show I want/are behind by a few weeks. Or if a show goes unlicensed (Hyouka). I do it because it's just convenient. Apps on my phone make it easy to watch when I'm not home (or if I'm using my TV/Vita) and the layouts are a lot nicer than your average illegal site. |
lnfo said: sammario said: those give limited anime'sNetflix and Funimation. so most of us are cornered to flee to illegal streaming sites Assuming you're someone who watches mostly airing stuff, having both Funi and CR will basically give you most airing shows. Of course some will be missed but the majority will be grabbed by the 2. If you watch only older stuff before they started simulcasting as much as they do now, then yea, probably will be lacking quite a bit. Doesn't help CR has 'certain limits' too. Not sure about Funi since I don't use em but I hear they have video stream issues. I usually download all of the first episodes, not really sure why but I just do. After that if I see them on CR, I'll just watch em on there. If they're not on there then I'll download em. I don't stream anime on other sites. This is for airing anime. For completed series, I prefer to download them as a whole, so I dont have to worry about having internet while watching em. |
sammario said: So we simply say "Fuck 'em. Who cares that they have to work day and night just to satisfy the population of MAL, their marketing is shit so I won't support them". That's like if a charity said they wouldn't give aid to starving children in Africa because it'd be too expensive for them to give out food to both Kenya, Sudan, and Libya all at once. How am I supposed to buy the product if I can't find the product? Even through legal means, you cannot find everything. Whereas if I was in Japan, I could very easily. This problem stems from not us being pirates, but us not having all the legal tools at our disposal to not be pirates. |
| The problem about the "Who cares that they have to work day and night ". It's that even if we buy, the money isn't have a fair share in their end, neither in any enterprise, of course. I root for the proletariat(the one that will work more time and get a shit salary), but yeah the world is unfair and i'm sorry. I bought a six month of Netflix, but i ain't using it because of my network that's so slow. |
GoldSlashApr 8, 2015 10:55 PM
sammario said: What annoys me when I see a popular airing anime get hundreds of thousands upon thousands (sometimes even millions!)of views on a shady illegal streaming site, when they easily get a much better experience on a website that actually supports the creators. I just don't understand it. I understand that. But like I said, what deters people is the idea that they have to go to so many places to achieve what they are looking for. Not to mention many of these legal sites have you pay for the site premium, and not just for a show itself. That would be like having to pay for the entire Harry Potter series once the first movie came out without any indication of how the other 7 movies would be. Paying for a service for a limited amount of shows is frustrating because it ends up costing much more money in the long run because of how unconventional and disorganized it is. You will always have pirates in any media. But anime has a special class of piracy that is caused not solely because the person doesn't want to pay, but because there not enough outside-of-Japan publishing being done to spread and get their product to people. Having 20-30 sources is a huge repellent to people. Remember. Time is money. Average people give up after a certain point. These "illegal" sites do a job which is categorize all the anime into easy to navigate ways. It's something an official source should look into. And that is untrue. Many illegal sites do things much better than many official sites. |
Shuhan said: I dont stream anime |
retrogamer32x said: Lancehot said: Legal unless I really want to watch something for which there's no legal option. Between CrunchyRoll (+VPN), Viewster & Daisuki, I can watch pretty much everything that has been licensed by someone other than Funimation. It's still piracy for those, though, since Funi.com & TAN.com block VPNs & for me at least Hulu's adverts tend to freeze when watching multiple episodes, making it not worth the effort to watch more than maybe the odd film or spliced OVA. Definitely check out those Youtube channels I posted also, several of those have full series runs in high quality (even older, less known shows like Boogiepop Phantom). Youtube should really do a better job of advertising all of the legal anime they have, there are a lot of older series on there that you can't find on many of the streaming services. This channel in particular is great, but hardly anyone knows about it: https://www.youtube.com/user/nozomient That's just yet another site I have to search to try and find the series I may be looking for. Whereas I can just go to a site like kissanime and type the name of the show in the search bar. That's the main problem I keep trying to express. Anime as a media form is not as easily found through proper streams, such as youtube as per your example. It requires the average person to open multiple sites just to discover the anime they may want. That's horribly inconvienient. Imagine if every time you wanted to watch a movie you were interested in, and instead of just going to a store and buying it, or buying a digital copy online, you had to search 20 or so stores/websites to find the appropriate place. Then on top of it, depending on the source, to watch said movie you had to pay for a service of that site/store before you could even get the product you are searching for itself from them. See how discombobulated that is? When in realty, I want a movie? I buy it online. Download, and bam. Or I search Netflix, and bam. Or if you're old school, I drive to my local video store and bam. Anime lacks the official stores and services that provide the same quality of product as the illegal "black market pirate" sites provide. Many underestimate how many people would use official services if it wasn't so messed up with segmentation. I would gladly pay upwards of 20 dollars a month for an anime service that when I wanted to find something, I could find it there 99% of the time. |
| Always illegal Only faggots stream legally |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
j0x said: download master race |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| I think for older anime that's not available on the like of Cruchyroll I use a mixture of both. I never download only stream. |
| Illegal of course. There's a lot more choices with the same or better quality than legal streaming. |
j0x said: download master race |
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-Gensan- said: j0x said: download master race |
| If there really is a good quality legal stream, of course I watch it. But mostly there isn't, so I use the illegal. |
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| Illegal 4 eva |
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lnfo said: are there even legal streaming sites these days other than crunchyroll? You can find anime on Hulu, Netflix, Funimation, etc. I've got Hulu+ now, and that's my main way of watching anime, so legal. |
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FireWriter said: -Gensan- said: LunarProxy said: lucky Americans......You can find anime on Hulu, Netflix, Funimation, etc. I've got Hulu+ now, and that's my main way of watching anime, so legal. |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| Kissanime is the only good site where I can watch anime for free in good quality so yeah, illegal... |
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| If I stream rather than watching DLed anime or DVD/Blu-Ray, it's always legal. There is essentially zero reason to watch anime on bootleg streaming sites instead of downloading, but plenty of reasons not to: 1) You're giving money to pirates, and letting them profit off the work of the animators, directors, writers, composers, voice actors, etc. 2) The quality is inherently worse than downloads, since bootleg streams just re-encode lossy encodes to lower bitrates for streaming. 3) The selection can be no better than what downloads can offer, since bootleg streaming sites can't stream something if subbing/ripping groups haven't released it. cause said: That just goes with the territory of being in a niche medium like anime rather than major Hollywood movies and mass-market US TV shows. Even having a half-dozen sites where a significant percentage of well-known recent anime can be found is still a major improvement over 6-7 years ago, but the anime fandom always move the goalposts whenever the industry tries to improve. Now it's "I demand download sites with all the anime ever made where I can DL as much as I want for a low monthly fee, not per-episode." (Not saying you demanded this, but others have in other threads.)That's the main problem I keep trying to express. Anime as a media form is not as easily found through proper streams, such as youtube as per your example. It requires the average person to open multiple sites just to discover the anime they may want. That's horribly inconvienient. Imagine if every time you wanted to watch a movie you were interested in, and instead of just going to a store and buying it, or buying a digital copy online, you had to search 20 or so stores/websites to find the appropriate place. Then on top of it, depending on the source, to watch said movie you had to pay for a service of that site/store before you could even get the product you are searching for itself from them. And I can recall driving to numerous video rental stores across the city back in the late 90s/early 00s to track down some movie or another, without the benefit of online availability status information. US movies/TV have "been there" too; it's just that anime is behind the curve because again, niche medium. |
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| Piracy it's the way ~ We Go! I mean, legal for helping the industry and stuff, i guess, maybe. |
PralandApr 9, 2015 1:47 PM
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Remv_quevav said: LunarProxy said: lucky Americans......You can find anime on Hulu, Netflix, Funimation, etc. I've got Hulu+ now, and that's my main way of watching anime, so legal. I envy them too. |
All credit goes to Sacred. |
j0x said: download master race |
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| I use legal when I can |
| Just pretend I have a signature here |
| I like my anime just like I like my women... |
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Zalis said: That just goes with the territory of being in a niche medium like anime rather than major Hollywood movies and mass-market US TV shows. Even having a half-dozen sites where a significant percentage of well-known recent anime can be found is still a major improvement over 6-7 years ago, but the anime fandom always move the goalposts whenever the industry tries to improve. Now it's "I demand download sites with all the anime ever made where I can DL as much as I want for a low monthly fee, not per-episode." (Not saying you demanded this, but others have in other threads.) And I can recall driving to numerous video rental stores across the city back in the late 90s/early 00s to track down some movie or another, without the benefit of online availability status information. US movies/TV have "been there" too; it's just that anime is behind the curve because again, niche medium. It's hardly a niche medium. Anime conventions are huge and it only gets bigger every year as a medium across the world. Sure it's not as big as hollywood, but it really not an excuse to be behind the curve. It's 2015. Even some pet day cares have more technological and easier access to things people are looking for, than legal anime sites. And your analogy of video stores back in the day doesn't work because the internet and streaming services were not potent in that age. That would be like saying you had to wait 30 days for your mail to arrive from someone a city over back 100 years ago when things were done by horseback, and comparing it to today. Today, those things are potent, but it seems animation publishers refuse to embrace a newer age of delivery to people which would be more efficient, and actually bring them more money in the long run. Anime as it is now makes most of their money from blu-ray sales and other merchandise. If more people could get their hands on copies easier, through legitimate means, than they would make a lot more money. But I either have to wait 6 months for the blu-ray to come out, or pay for a service to watch a show I may or may not like from numerous websites. Some of piracy in mediums is not so much caused by stubborn people who don't want to pay money, but more so because the content being sold is not easy to get. And getting frustrated by that is a valid concern. As any business manager will tell you, getting your product the most exposure, is what helps maximize your potential purchases of said product. |
| The poll results look like a hand turned sideways giving a middle finger (to the anime industry). |
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| Why stream when you can torrent in a better quality? And watch while it is downloading if your download speed is superior to the playback speed (like in streaming) |
| I do both and more. I stream older shows illegally, download airing shows, have a CR account, and constantly await American releases to buy the disks. |
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