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| What saddens me is how Good characters like Archer, Gilgamesh, Caster and even kirei is but I have to watch and cheer for Shirou, Saber and Rin. The least interesting of the bunch because the VN said so. |
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Doomdoctor said: What saddens me is how Good characters like Archer, Gilgamesh, Caster and even kirei is but I have to watch and cheer for Shirou, Saber and Rin. The least interesting of the bunch because the VN said so. I think you and I have a different understanding of the word "good". Last I checked, "good" didn't mean backstabbing his own Master, slaughtering maids, snatching people's Servants and scarring children with priestly rejoicing. Also, if you're talking about how interesting the characters are, Shirou is the most complicated one of the lot (except maybe Kirei). |
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Hetment said: Doomdoctor said: What saddens me is how Good characters like Archer, Gilgamesh, Caster and even kirei is but I have to watch and cheer for Shirou, Saber and Rin. The least interesting of the bunch because the VN said so. Wait what? They are the most interesting of all... Especially Shirou o.o U serious? |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Doomdoctor said: What saddens me is how Good characters like Archer, Gilgamesh, Caster and even kirei is but I have to watch and cheer for Shirou, Saber and Rin. The least interesting of the bunch because the VN said so. I think you and I have a different understanding of the word "good". Last I checked, "good" didn't mean backstabbing his own Master, slaughtering maids, snatching people's Servants and scarring children with priestly rejoicing. They make good characters objectively not in a moral way. |
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Doomdoctor said: Hetment said: Wait what? They are the most interesting of all... Especially Shirou o.o U serious? inb4shounenprotag. I'm not going through this again. Charge priests charge~ |
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Doomdoctor said: Hetment said: Wait what? They are the most interesting of all... Especially Shirou o.o U serious? Yes,absolutely..thats why if you don't understand him,you will not like him |
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chat77 said: Doomdoctor said: U serious? Yes,absolutely..thats why if you don't understand him,you will not like him Well it's your preference. But coming from Fate Zero I think Shirou isn't even close to being an interesting character. |
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Doomdoctor said: chat77 said: Yes,absolutely..thats why if you don't understand him,you will not like him Well it's your preference. But coming from Fate Zero I think Shirou isn't close to being an interesting character. Its kind of a proven fact actually but then again,I have to play the "VN card" which I won't because this has been discussed time and again.. |
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Doomdoctor said: chat77 said: Yes,absolutely..thats why if you don't understand him,you will not like him Well it's your preference. But coming from Fate Zero I think Shirou isn't close to being an interesting character. If you are genuinely interested in why people find Shirou to interesting and defend him like this, then you'll have to read the VN. If you take shots at these characters and blame the VN for "forcing" you to focus on them without having any knowledge of said VN, then yes you will be treated like this. |
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Doomdoctor said: OneTrueEmiya said: I think you and I have a different understanding of the word "good". Last I checked, "good" didn't mean backstabbing his own Master, slaughtering maids, snatching people's Servants and scarring children with priestly rejoicing. They make good characters objectively not in a moral way. First of all, trying to apply human morality to Shirou's actions or worldview already means you don't get the character. And no,the show is not trying to pretend he is more morally right as most of the action he takes are based around his characterization and not around the morality of the action Second of all, this is Shirou's story about Shirou so , oh well too bad for you I guess. But yeah, judging the characters or why people like them based on (Incomplete inaccurate flawed) adaptation alone wont get you anywhere. |
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Forgetfulness said: I also wanted to point out that the idea of Lancer riding an elevator is highly amusing to me. Can't he just...you know, break through the floor? Nah....thats too mainstream for him |
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Forgetfulness said: I also wanted to point out that the idea of Lancer riding an elevator is highly amusing to me. Can't he just...you know, break through the floor? half the prescreenings I translated back then had elevator jokes and shin-chan flying jokes. I'd like to think Lancer is simply a well-mannered person - he was willing to wait till Acha gets his bow after all. |
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Forgetfulness said: The way he was so nonchalant about it put a smile on my face.I also wanted to point out that the idea of Lancer riding an elevator is highly amusing to me. Can't he just...you know, break through the floor? |
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ReaperCreeper said: Forgetfulness said: The way he was so nonchalant about it put a smile on my face.I also wanted to point out that the idea of Lancer riding an elevator is highly amusing to me. Can't he just...you know, break through the floor?  |
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ZeroDragon said: ReaperCreeper said: The way he was so nonchalant about it put a smile on my face. [img]http://i.imgur.com/z2Z8NGb.gif[/ img] Needs a "not this shit again" caption. |
ZeroDragon said: I'm getting Mass Effect elevator flashbacks.ReaperCreeper said: The way he was so nonchalant about it put a smile on my face. [img]http://i.imgur.com/z2Z8NGb.gif[/im g] |
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| Nice, we got to see what happened to caster's former master. 5/5 |
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| so Caster have a previous master huh, and now to see how bad ass Gilgamesh is again |
| Nothing to complain about in this episode yet again. Impressive. Though it's a bit weird when Shirou asked Rin why made a dinner in this situation. You and your merry gang has been so carefree about the situation you are in & just now you're asking why Rin making a dinner, Shiruo? So making dinner is a questionable thing yet going for a picnic, school, etc. are fine & dandy? Shirou, you are one not-so-smart man. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Nothing to complain about in this episode yet again. Impressive. Though it's a bit weird when Shirou asked Rin why made a dinner in this situation. You and your merry gang has been so carefree about the situation you are in & just now you're asking why Rin making a dinner, Shiruo? So making dinner is a questionable thing yet going for a picnic, school, etc. are fine & dandy? Shirou, you are one not-so-smart man. It's probably because Saber got kidnapped. |
| Really the main characters in UBW are shirou, archer and rin. If you are disappointed with kirei then keep in mind this is his worst route by far. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Nothing to complain about in this episode yet again. Impressive. Though it's a bit weird when Shirou asked Rin why made a dinner in this situation. You and your merry gang has been so carefree about the situation you are in & just now you're asking why Rin making a dinner, Shiruo? So making dinner is a questionable thing yet going for a picnic, school, etc. are fine & dandy? Shirou, you are one not-so-smart man. They went on a picnic BEFORE Saber got kidnapped. His surrogate teacher said it's fine to let loose a little when surrounded by many people (who aren't mages). Shirou's just a nice person overall and didn't expect almost every participant of the 5th Holy Grail War to be batsh*t crazy. |
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| I don't get why people complain about cooking and stuff. They are still alive and it's not like their lives stop during the HGW. It is normal for mages to have to keep up appearances anyway because otherwise other masters would suspect that they are part of the HGW. |
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Theorder14 said: It's probably because Saber got kidnapped. Yes, things got worse when you do not have a servant. But still, holy grail war itself is something dangerous & life threatening. So, why now? That's a bit silly, don't you think? VarunaBles said: They went on a picnic BEFORE Saber got kidnapped. His surrogate teacher said it's fine to let loose a little when surrounded by many people (who aren't mages). Shirou's just a nice person overall and didn't expect almost every participant of the 5th Holy Grail War to be batsh*t crazy. Rin knew about how crazy Holy Grail War was. |
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| Nice episode. Nice background story to Caster. I wonder what the 7 mins of missing content will be in the BD. Pat_To_Do-List said: People do need to eat when alive you know, lol. So it's normal to see a scene like that once in a while. Kirei is even eating mapo tofu in Heaven's Feel route, lol. As for that picnic scene, there meant to be a monolgue to explore Shirou's inner mind, but it's not there. So not a surprise to see that you think that picnic scene is pointless.Nothing to complain about in this episode yet again. Impressive. Though it's a bit weird when Shirou asked Rin why made a dinner in this situation. You and your merry gang has been so carefree about the situation you are in & just now you're asking why Rin making a dinner, Shiruo? So making dinner is a questionable thing yet going for a picnic, school, etc. are fine & dandy? Shirou, you are one not-so-smart man. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Rin knew about how crazy Holy Grail War was. The War, not the people who were participating. She was also the one who brought up the picnic idea. |
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| I agree that even in the worse situations eating food is usually a good idea. Although as usual they were showing off quite a bit, those dishes looked very well set out. And well drawn. |
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| At least the anime doesn't explain every meal in detail. I still have nightmares about Sakura cooking chinese food. |
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WrongPriest said: I agree that even in the worse situations eating food is usually a good idea. Although as usual they were showing off quite a bit, those dishes looked very well set out. And well drawn. They're setting the mood up for HF. |
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VarunaBles said: WrongPriest said: I agree that even in the worse situations eating food is usually a good idea. Although as usual they were showing off quite a bit, those dishes looked very well set out. And well drawn. They're setting the mood up for HF. HF, Hello Foodporn, is going to be glorious :C |
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chaosflame5 said: People do need to eat when alive you know, lol. So it's normal to see a scene like that once in a while. Kirei is even eating mapo tofu in Heaven's Feel route, lol. As for that picnic scene, there meant to be a monolgue to explore Shirou's inner mind, but it's not there. So not a surprise to see that you think that picnic scene is pointless. I know, but those scenes were not exactly what I would call "once in a while." Just to be clear, I do not mind cooking/eating scenes, but it's just this anime made it like they're there just for fun, nothing more. I see, Kirei has an eating scene too. Your point? The picnic scene is pointless in the anime. Maybe it's important in the VN, but not in the anime. VarunaBles said: The War, not the people who were participating. She was also the one who brought up the picnic idea. Exactly what makes it even more ridiculous. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Exactly what makes it even more ridiculous. What is? Rin bringing Shirou AND Saber in on a supposed picnic date? That's Rin for you. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: I know, but those scenes were not exactly what I would call "once in a while." Just to be clear, I do not mind cooking/eating scenes, but it's just this anime made it like they're there just for fun, nothing more. Saying that they were there just for fun implies that the scenes were actually fun to watch, which is not the case. |
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VarunaBles said: What is? Rin bringing Shirou AND Saber in on a supposed picnic date? That's Rin for you. Yes, that. Illogical Rin, that's what I would call her from now on. Lollo36 said: Saying that they were there just for fun implies that the scenes were actually fun to watch, which is not the case. They were fun for some people, especially the hardcore fans. Not for me though. Or maybe I should rephrase that. Pat_To_Do-List said: Just to be clear, I do not mind cooking/eating scenes, but it's just this anime made it like they're there to be useless, nothing more. |
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| So that's Caster's old Master. Was wondering what he looked like....and also...he also called Lancer's Master as a "she". So Caster let those kids go free? She may caused that incidents involving other people, but she didn't really did kill them, did she? Different from that Gilles. Oh boy.....and wow. Bloodshed by the all mighty King of Heroes himself....oh man, poor Sella and Liz. Seeing that Prisma stuff too, seeing them like that....next episode.....Dr. Gil-kun... |
| The transitions reminded me of AGK. I was okay with it though (Sella and Leysritt </3) Next episode is gonna be |
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| Lmao Shinji became a comic relief in the last 10 minutes. But that means... Oh Ilya ;-; Gil have mercy. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| I'm not gonna lie, the heart puns are going to be unbearable by the end of the week. |
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WrongPriest said: I agree wholeheartedlyI'm not gonna lie, the heart puns are going to be unbearable by the end of the week. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: It's the directing then~ Like I said, same goes for that picnic scene, no monolgues means it looked like an insignificant scene. And we have to make them look like normal humans, so of course they require to eat, so it's not like they're having fun. Kirei's mapo tofu, my point is that, it's like one of those little characterisations of a character, it shows that he has some lighter side, so eating is one of them. I need to see the significance of that in the VN.I know, but those scenes were not exactly what I would call "once in a while." Just to be clear, I do not mind cooking/eating scenes, but it's just this anime made it like they're there just for fun, nothing more. I see, Kirei has an eating scene too. Your point? The picnic scene is pointless in the anime. Maybe it's important in the VN, but not in the anime. WrongPriest said: Lol, I wonder how I'm not gonna lie, the heart puns are going to be unbearable by the end of the week. |
chaosflame5Apr 12, 2015 3:13 AM
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chaosflame5 said: Pat_To_Do-List said: It's the directing then~ Like I said, same goes for that picnic scene, no monolgues means it looked like an insignificant scene. And we have to make them look like normal humans, so of course they require to eat, so it's not like they're having fun. Kirei's mapo tofu, my point is that, it's like one of those little characterisations of a character, it shows that he has some lighter side, so eating is one of them. I need to see the significance of that in the VN.I know, but those scenes were not exactly what I would call "once in a while." Just to be clear, I do not mind cooking/eating scenes, but it's just this anime made it like they're there just for fun, nothing more. I see, Kirei has an eating scene too. Your point? The picnic scene is pointless in the anime. Maybe it's important in the VN, but not in the anime. Actually, anime has absolutely clearly stated the purpose of the date in the end of pre-date episode: so that Shirou learns to do something for his own joy and not some other people. |
| Did we just give up on people who spoil the blond guy's identity? |
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Lollo36 said: Did we just give up on people who spoil the blond guy's identity? Too many to bother with... |
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Zulkir said: Oh yeah, forgot about that bit. Gonna rewatch it when BDs are out anyway.Actually, anime has absolutely clearly stated the purpose of the date in the end of pre-date episode: so that Shirou learns to do something for his own joy and not some other people. |
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chaosflame5 said: It's the directing then~ Like I said, same goes for that picnic scene, no monolgues means it looked like an insignificant scene. And we have to make them look like normal humans, so of course they require to eat, so it's not like they're having fun. Kirei's mapo tofu, my point is that, it's like one of those little characterisations of a character, it shows that he has some lighter side, so eating is one of them. I need to see the significance of that in the VN. But does one anime really needs to show the characters eating just make them look like normal humans? Surely people would not be so stupid & assume that they do not eat if the anime does not show them eating. Zulkir said: Actually, anime has absolutely clearly stated the purpose of the date in the end of pre-date episode: so that Shirou learns to do something for his own joy and not some other people. By going for a picnic in a middle of a war? Oh, and not just a war, a Holy Grail War. |
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