Your Lie in April
| I figured this thread would pop up sooner or later, so might as well make the most of it. I've watched like, 5 eps, of shigatsu and it was pretty meh. but now, it's suddenly #17 on mal (it is mal, so may be we can cut some slack here, but i digress) anyway, is the music really that much better than nodame or is it the characters that did the breakout? or is this just another no game no life? |
| I haven't seen Nodame and I've only watched 13 episodes of shigatsu. But I really liked the music, very lively I guess?.. What irked me was having to look at those ugly Cg sausage fingers :P |
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Objurgo said: from what i've seen of shigatsu, the concerts are infinitely better looking (owing to the air date, surely) but the music on its own failed to impress me, but that's just from 5 episodes.I haven't seen Nodame and I've only watched 13 episodes of shigatsu. But I really liked the music, very lively I guess?.. What irked me was having to look at those ugly Cg sausage fingers :P |
| For an anime that is based around music, I'd say there's too much fluff during the music segments like characters having revelations and thoughts that overtake the entire playing, which was pretty annoying I found |
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Terapin said: Objurgo said: from what i've seen of shigatsu, the concerts are infinitely better looking (owing to the air date, surely) but the music on its own failed to impress me, but that's just from 5 episodes.I haven't seen Nodame and I've only watched 13 episodes of shigatsu. But I really liked the music, very lively I guess?.. What irked me was having to look at those ugly Cg sausage fingers :P It is overrated dude. Nodame had a more realistic romance story and better music. I will say visually this show is stunning and animation wise on point as well. People are giving it 10/10 like it is nothing without thinking it through and based on emotions of the last episode. Then when you remind them that a majority of the second half wasn't all that great they throw a hissy fit by saying "but but it was lovely and it had the feels." Keep watching it and you will see what I mean. |
| Nodame > Shigatsu. |
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| The three episodes I saw of Nodame had more development than the entirety of Shigatsu. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| Nodame was better, it's more realistic, down to earth, and also better romance. Shigatsu was too dramatic. I don't dislike a show being too dramatic, but it's clearly that the show can't handle its own drama well. |
ToG25thBaam said: Nodame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shigatsu. now its right shigatsu is cringe heaven it doesn't focus on the music it focus on the mc struggling threw the whole anime and the girl having death flags from the beginning to the end |
| Nothing says heavy drama like a kid crying because he lost a soccer game -.- |
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| I thought Nodame was better in all aspects. I guess Shigatsu had more general appeal or something. |
| I dont think Nodame was really good so I hope shigatsu is better |
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| Nodame > Shigatsu The only thing that Shigatsu IMO beats nodame is the art and animation. Fatma94 said: Your Lie in April is a lot more similar to Kids on The Slope than it is to Nodame Cantabile, OP. Both shows ( KimiUso and Kids on the Slope ) have music, but it isn't really the main focus of the show. Both can be overdramatic and have a romantic subplot that gets more attention than the music itself ( 2nd cour of KimiUso ) If you're interested in music, go for Nodame. It's also pretty lighthearted and leaning more towards comedy if you're not into heavy drama. ^ Yeah kids on the slope would be more comparable than nodame or better yet any Key animation. |
| Nodame is a romantic comedy. Has some drama. Shigatsu is a romantic drama... More drama than romantic-drama. It has some comedy. |
43211 said: Nodame is a romantic comedy. Has some drama. Shigatsu is a romantic drama... More drama than romantic-drama. It has some comedy. 1+. |
| Shounen manga vs. Josei manga. |
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| comparing an overly melodramatic teen soap opera with a classical music masterpiece.... is MAL community has always been this retarded ? |
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ranzero said: comparing an overly melodramatic teen soap opera with a classical music masterpiece.... is MAL community has always been this retarded ? yeah |
| So... where are the raid of 1/10 scores? You know, make like, 10 fake accounts for each person that think that the show is bad, then give the show a rate of 1/10. |
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akdgn said: I actually like how this lookExcept the art, Nodame has better quality in every aspect.  compared to this  or  or  |
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| As always, it really depends on your tastes. If you prefer comedy over drama in your shows, then Nodame is your pick; but if you happen to love shows that are heavy in feels, then Shigatsu is the winner. Personally, as a romance/drama fan, Shigatsu caters to my taste a hell of a lot more than Nodame does, so my vote goes to "yes, absolutely"! |
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| Its in different category : - shigatsu -> shonen - nodame -> josei From that we know the target audience is already different |
| I hated nodame..... The ending was garbage. |
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| Of course Nodame is better, just because of more realistic romance and more interesting characters. It has more music in one episode than Shigatsu in five. Nodame is also one of my favourite anime and I felt very strange when I saw Shigatsu №17:( |
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ranzero said: comparing an overly melodramatic teen soap opera with a classical music masterpiece.... is MAL community has always been this retarded ? implying this isn't a classical music masterpiece... |
| I do admit I thought they're similar at the start but they can't be compared anymore. Too different. Loved both. Still had more enjoyment factor from Nodame though :3 |
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| Despite having similar synopses, I see them as having difference, in fact opposing, focuses. Shigatsu uses music as a vessel for inward psychological introspection, and Nodame uses the romance as a vessel for musical expression. For example, even though both shows have scenes of the audience being awed by expressive playing, for Shigatsu, this was a way to visualize the fears, feelings, and motivations of the pianist, but for Nodame, it only really depicts their growth as artists. To be sure, both Arima and Nodame grows as artists throughout the respective shows. But we don't really care about Arima's musical progression as we do how he's confronting his trauma and personal trials. The end goal of Nodame is success in the relationship and success as musicians. The end goal of Shigatsu is the untying of Arima's knots. As far as I was concerned, Arima's success as a musician was only a side effect. |
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fst said: ranzero said: comparing an overly melodramatic teen soap opera with a classical music masterpiece.... is MAL community has always been this retarded ? implying this isn't a classical music masterpiece... I hope that's sarcasm. |
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| I haven't yet seen Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso to the end, but after some seventeen episodes, its biggest difference between Nodame Cantabile is that when I think of it's main character (don't even remember the name) all that comes to my mind is abuse, musical super genius, friend A and...well, nothing else actually. The fact that he was and still is coerced into music, the attitude of the side characters and their insistence on MC's music I find to be a sort of psychological abuse in itself (Ex: Kaor faints and it's the mc's fault for not playing well, never mind the circumstances or the implications of that) Tbh, even in its focus on characters, Shigatsu there's a huge flaw (IMO *cue evil grin, elitist flag pre-empted*) in that it is too preoccupied with its perceived 'psychologizing' that it fails to escape the clutches of its own trappings. Nodame on the other hand I believe handled these matters with a flair and subtlety rarely seen in anime. My conclusion, I suppose, is that as a psychological exploration or as a drama musical, Nodame ultimately has more merit owing to its quality of showing restraint in spite of being a completely engrossing romp. Shigatsu in its painfully obvious flaunting of themes and teen melodrama falls (far) short of a masterpiece just like how in literature, more blatantly (with the exception of Dostoevsky of course) psychological or surreal works are considered to be inferior to those that are sublime in it's themes. Shigatsu, I suppose, might be better to those looking to supplement their weekday soap on weekends, but beyond that, it has nothing to offer on the level of Nodame; Again, prefaced with IMO |
TerapinMar 21, 2015 8:31 PM
| I think Shigatsu is better than Nodame, but for me, that's actually not saying THAT much considering I never found Nodame Cantabile to deserve the critical hype surrounding it. Yes, it's a pleasant narrative with [mostly] mature characters and some inspiration feelies, but that's all the show is to me. Was I sleeping while watching the show or something, because I never quite found the 'brilliant character development' that y'all purport. I think I've always valued a powerful visual direction more than other critics, because to me, a show like Shigatsu is the reason why I even watch anime in comparison to a much more competent narrative medium like, say, the novel medium. Shigatsu performed lights-out in its presentation, and I've never seen something quite so unreserved, audacious, and literally having a seizure in its pushing forward details and messages. Even the in-your-face monologues strike me as a charming aspect of the show more than a detractor. Edit: @Terapin, thank you for maintaining a respectable and civil attitude in criticism. The forum discussion around Shigatsu is literal CANCER. |
ZeroHumorMar 21, 2015 9:15 PM
| There is no way anyone that voted Yes has watched Nodame. |
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Dashiawia said: As always, it really depends on your tastes. If you prefer comedy over drama in your shows, then Nodame is your pick; but if you happen to love shows that are heavy in feels, then Shigatsu is the winner. Personally, as a romance/drama fan, Shigatsu caters to my taste a hell of a lot more than Nodame does, so my vote goes to "yes, absolutely"! |
ZeroHumor said: Funny, this is a text book moment of one man's trash being another's treasure.I think Shigatsu is better than Nodame, but for me, that's actually not saying THAT much considering I never found Nodame Cantabile to deserve the critical hype surrounding it. Yes, it's a pleasant narrative with [mostly] mature characters and some inspiration feelies, but that's all the show is to me. Was I sleeping while watching the show or something, because I never quite found the 'brilliant character development' that y'all purport. I think I've always valued a powerful visual direction more than other critics, because to me, a show like Shigatsu is the reason why I even watch anime in comparison to a much more competent narrative medium like, say, the novel medium. Shigatsu performed lights-out in its presentation, and I've never seen something quite so unreserved, audacious, and literally having a seizure in its pushing forward details and messages. Even the in-your-face monologues strike me as a charming aspect of the show more than a detractor. Edit: @Terapin, thank you for maintaining a respectable and civil attitude in criticism. The forum discussion around Shigatsu is literal CANCER. I could literally write essays on what 'brilliant character development' it is that Nodame entails. But it seems you've only watched the first season. So maybe we can talk of that on PM after you finish all three (assuming you plan to). But on the matter of Shigatsu, I found the bleeding vibgyor oozing out of every scene and theatrical direction to be blatantly out of place and distracting. My problem really isn't with the visual direction (which I do think is too theatrical) but with the show's insistence on driving home it's thematic focus with every shot. The occasion at the start of the series when the mc's depressing view on life was represented by a black and white palette and his monologues -- I'm sorry, but there are way better ways of communicating emotions or situations or viewpoints to your viewers without outright assuming their complete shallowness and spoon feeding them with monologues. Like you said, anime is a visual medium and this is a premise heavily reliant on emotions and they had the resources at hand. There was no need to prepare dialogues or soliloquies for every little change in emotion unless they believe the audience are utterly incapable of empathy for understanding such. The fact that this 'thematic focus' or 'message' is actually very screwed up and downright disturbing when you think about it doesn't help either. I don't know what others think, but I believe the main character was endlessly abused in a psychological (and physical if you choose to give the slapstick a modicum of meaning) sense in getting him back to 'music'. It overstates so many things, is rife with glorified melodrama, has tasteless direction, is terribly stubborn about making a mouthpiece out of every character for intensifying the main character's coercion into music - much as they try to pass it off as something more chaste, and has a variety of other flaws stated previously - for me to consider it even remotely likeable. I want to finish the series, but I doubt I can go that far (already spoiled myself with the manga ending). To each their own, I think Nodame managed to convey many/almost all of the things (including childhood abuse) much more humanely. Aside from better animation during the concert scenes (which was the only positive I saw when i was 5 episodes up and now, when I am at the seventeenth episode). |
TerapinMar 22, 2015 12:25 AM
| @Terapin Regarding the last point, I really do think that Kousei's music is his everything, and that he could not move forward with his life or be honest with himself without having confronted that music upfront. How deep people go for their passions at times is a very, very surprising thing. Of course, I'm assuming that your main concern isn't the fact that other characters are pushing Kousei back to music, but HOW they do it via the utter tactlessness they've shown. That sorta draws back to everything in the show being more theatrical, and every character wearing their heart on their sleeves, which is a much less realistic approach to the situation, but honestly, it's a direction choice that I favor in this case. I just, I dunno, like it. I get engaged by this, I get impressed by this, and I get captivated by this sort of upfrontness more than anything I've watched recently. In the end, my critical thoughts are only a rationalization for why I enjoyed/disliked a show, so to me, I don't view a breach of realism as a necessarily bad thing. You know, now that you mentioned it, I feel strongly compelled to go back and rewatch Nodame + watch the sequels. The fact that I watched Nodame only 4 months after watching my first anime may have been a mistake, as I wasn't nearly as good at looking out for the subtler elements as I am now. Japanese humor still rarely sticks with me, but maybe I can find the better elements of the show with a second watching. |
ZeroHumor said: Yes, do it. It was a mistake to try out Nodame early in your anime career. I once dropped Nodame too back then, but I picked it back up years later and it became one of my favorite series since then. :) Hopefully you could enjoy it as much as we did.You know, now that you mentioned it, I feel strongly compelled to go back and rewatch Nodame + watch the sequels. The fact that I watched Nodame only 4 months after watching my first anime may have been a mistake, as I wasn't nearly as good at looking out for the subtler elements as I am now. Japanese humor still rarely sticks with me, but maybe I can find the better elements of the show with a second watching. |
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| Too bad Nodame's animation is garbage compare to Shigatsu's |
vasplar said: Too bad Nodame's animation is garbage compare to Shigatsu's Hahahaha No. |
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| Oh I see, here we have a bunch of people who didn't even watch the first season of Nodame, but even so they don't hold back when it comes Shigatsu. I guess the result should not be taken seriously. |
| mmm I would probably say Shigatsu has slightly better music but Nodame is a better series overall above all Nodame just has better characters I feel |
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