| Have you noticed that many new inductees to Japanese media feel an (inexplicable) aversion to mecha-related work? Why is this? I too once avoided the genre because of a misconception that all mecha was shallow Sunday-morning TV fare. Some irrational instinct told me that the only substance to mecha was the technical execution of transformations designed to awe children. Whether or not mecha are involved, I learned, there is no reason to assume that the series in question is lacking proper story writing and development. This too goes with older works, and other stylistic choices that turn many viewers away for superficial reasons. The age or style of a work says nothing about the quality of that work, so why might others feel an aversion? What is your experience? |
 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| Because, unlike AD today, there's not enough yuri in mecha. |
| I'm not a fan of action in general. Watching big robots hit big robots with big guns is not that entertaining to me. Can't say I dislike the genre as a whole though. |
| that's a pretty loaded question |
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gedata said: The thread title was intentionally made to be a loaded question. that's a pretty loaded question My intent is to draw in those who already feel some (purportedly irrational) aversion toward mecha and gain insight from their perspective. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| I have nothing against the genre but it isn't my cup of tea. |
    looket all them demons oh boy am i scared i better run ● ● ● |
| mecha is teh worst genre of all time. All the robots luk the same and the characters are all the same. |
Deserada said: gedata said: The thread title was intentionally made to be a loaded question. that's a pretty loaded question My intent is to draw in those who already feel some (purportedly irrational) aversion toward mecha and gain insight from their perspective. Basically, the title is clickbait. |
o123o said: My first skateboard was a Gundam Wing skateboard. No joke.When I was in HS, i always wanted a Gundam backpack with wheels. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| Because I prefer anime with plot. Tssssssssssssssss. *Sizzle* |
| I like Mecha, it's just rarely ever done well the way I want it. But I guess that's how it goes with everything. |
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PoeticJustice said: n it doesnt have cute girls doin cute thingsmecha is teh worst genre of all time. All the robots luk the same and the characters are all the same. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| Used to love it as a kid I remember Gundam Wing being my favourite cartoon. Now they just look silly they need to shake up the looks of the machines in my opinion they look the same since the 80s. They need to switch it up. |
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| Back about 12 years ago when I was in high school, I hated mecha because all I had seen at that point was Gundam Wing(which was mediocre,) and Gundam Seed(which was cancer.) And then, around 2008, everything changed when I saw Robotech for the first time, and then I knew that there were great mecha Anime out there. |
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fst said: Bingo! In the study of writing (specifically nonfiction), we call it persuasive writing.Deserada said: The thread title was intentionally made to be a loaded question. My intent is to draw in those who already feel some (purportedly irrational) aversion toward mecha and gain insight from their perspective. Basically, the title is clickbait. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
Deserada said: fst said: Bingo! In the study of writing (specifically nonfiction), we call it persuasive writing.Basically, the title is clickbait. Aren't all threads in MAL click bait? |
| I don't dislike mecha, I wish that Gundam felt a little bit less of an impenetrable franchise to get into now. |
Syndiciate said: Deserada said: Bingo! In the study of writing (specifically nonfiction), we call it persuasive writing. Aren't all threads in MAL click bait? Only the quality threads. Feaor said: I don't dislike mecha, I wish that Gundam felt a little bit less of an impenetrable franchise to get into now. Just start with one of the OVA to get your feet wet, it's not that hard. |
| I don't. Some of the first anime shows I saw were Transformers, Macross and Gundam Wing and I loved the hell out of them. I've so far seen 182 titles that qualify as mecha. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
Working_Designs said: Same boat right here.Back about 12 years ago when I was in high school, I hated mecha because all I had seen at that point was Gundam Wing(which was mediocre,) and Gundam Seed(which was cancer.) And then, around 2008, everything changed when I saw Robotech for the first time, and then I knew that there were great mecha Anime out there. Rich_Homie said: The best mecha work is out there right now. If you want something character driven, and don't believe a series such as Gundam can deliver it, check out 08th MS Team.Used to love it as a kid I remember Gundam Wing being my favourite cartoon. Now they just look silly they need to shake up the looks of the machines in my opinion they look the same since the 80s. They need to switch it up. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
Feaor said: I don't dislike mecha, I wish that Gundam felt a little bit less of an impenetrable franchise to get into now. This, too. Wayyy too many things to watch. |
fst said: I know I could start with WitP and I know the watch order and different timelines whatnot but the sheer number of shows is very daunting and as a result I always pass over it when looking for new stuff.Just start with one of the OVA to get your feet wet, it's not that hard. |
mayukachan said: Seconding fst's notion. Start with one of the OVAs. Doesn't matter too much which you pick, but I'd recommend Stardust Memory, War in the Pocket, or 08th MS Team.Feaor said: I don't dislike mecha, I wish that Gundam felt a little bit less of an impenetrable franchise to get into now. This, too. Wayyy too many things to watch. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
Deserada said: mayukachan said: Seconding fst's notion. Start with one of the OVAs. Doesn't matter too much which you pick, but I'd recommend Stardust Memory, War in the Pocket, or 08th MS Team.This, too. Wayyy too many things to watch. Well there goes your credibility. Right down the drain, like it was never even there to begin with. Oh, wait... Feaor said: fst said: I know I could start with WitP and I know the watch order and different timelines whatnot but the sheer number of shows is very daunting and as a result I always pass over it when looking for new stuff.Just start with one of the OVA to get your feet wet, it's not that hard. Man up, it's not like you have a job or anything. |
Feaor said: If you want to get to know the characters before choosing which to watch, try playing one of the Dynasty Warriors Gundam titles. As odd as it may sound, they are a great introduction into the multiverse, and a good hub point from which you can branch out and seek more information about characters whose personalities you may come to like.fst said: I know I could start with WitP and I know the watch order and different timelines whatnot but the sheer number of shows is very daunting and as a result I always pass over it when looking for new stuff.Just start with one of the OVA to get your feet wet, it's not that hard. They cover most of the major events in the main UC timeline (MSG, Z, ZZ, etc.), but other than that there are actually few spoilers, and you won't feel cheated if you pick up any of the series after playing. fst said: Oh you.Well there goes your credibility. Notice I specifically didn't mention F91. ;) |
DeseradaFeb 5, 2015 8:35 PM
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| wat r u talkin'bout ?? some of the best rated & most popular mangas/anime r mecha.... Its not my cup of tea tho (big reasonz why im on hold with Evangelist Geon) |
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| It seems boring in general, especially the idea of mecha fights, space, political themes. Never liked it, ever since I was a kid. I'm recently in the mood to give it a try, starting with Sidonia's manga. |
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| I love it cuz TTGL |
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| I find mecha fights kinda boring most of the time even in the mecha series I love. I'm a big Gundam fan, but not for the mecha aspect. I prefer pretty much any other kind of battle shounen fights (swords, magic, superpowers, etc...) to mecha fights since there is little variety (they have beam attacks, rockets and possibly some kind of melee weapon and that's basically it) and the technology of the mecha can just make the fights even more boring when one model is clearly superior to the others. Plus most mecha fights are in space and don't even have any cool backgrounds. Now it's not like I can't enjoy flashy fights in top-budget mecha like Unicorn or the extreme OTT fights of TTGL, but most mecha aren't like that. My favorite kind of mecha is when there is a lot of focus on realism. And I also really like mecha in ground warfare, where you have actual landscapes, and gravity and (usually) more realism. Patlabor, 8th MS Team, Flag. Stuff like that is awesome. For all those reasons I used to avoid mecha, but at the end of the day if the characters, worldbuilding and story is good mecha doesn't take away from my enjoyment, but it also rarely ever adds to it (unless it's in the realistic sense I mentioned). I adapted a neutral stance towards it and don't avoid series because of the mecha genre anymore (well, I still do avoid most modern mecha in recent seasons since most of them sound lame). |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
KLKfanboy said: I love it cuz TTGL TTGL is not a good representation of the genre, even I know that.. same goes for CG. |
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tsudecimo said: KLKfanboy said: I love it cuz TTGL TTGL is not a good representation of the genre, even I know that.. same goes for CG. Even in CG the mecha fights were the least interesting part of it to me. Lots of the 'new superior model pwns them all' trope. The only mecha fights in CG I remember were the ones heavily involving a Geass. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Lancehot said: I like mechs. It's the pilots that put me off. same reason here... i didn't like middle school kids as pilots ( too young lol ) |
| but i don't OP |
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Deserada said: yesHave you noticed that many new inductees to Japanese media feel an (inexplicable) aversion to mecha-related work? Deserada said: this should've been the main question of the thread =/Why is this? i say it's a law , just like the law of gravity; the idea of mecha is pretty boring i guess /= |
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| That's a good question. I don't hate the genre but it's just something I'm not interested in I've tried to watch a few and only about one or two really appealed to me |
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Cabron said: PoeticJustice said: n it doesnt have cute girls doin cute thingsmecha is teh worst genre of all time. All the robots luk the same and the characters are all the same. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| i personally think the mecha i have watched so far has always been a bit to the ridiculous side (not that i've watched that many because the topic itself isn't very intriguing to me). it may just be that i watched the wrong series but oftentimes i think mecha series try way hard to be different and bring in 'new elements' that the plot seriously suffers from it. and a lot of the protagonists of mecha aren't very likable to me personally. so i do have a bit of an aversion towards the genre but i'd be willing to change my opinion if somebody were to recommend me a great one. |
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| I don't dislike it. I haven't watched enough to go that far. A big junk of metal fighting another big junk of metal just doesn't appeal to me. |
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| I love it, they can do much more with the concept in the future, I foresee great ideas and shows. |
| Hmmm.. It's not like I hate the genre, but generally I wouldn't say it's my cup of tea. I just don't really care for giant robots that much. |
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ApplePhi said: They don't have to be big, you know.Hmmm.. It's not like I hate the genre, but generally I wouldn't say it's my cup of tea. I just don't really care for giant robots that much. |
Ckan said: ApplePhi said: They don't have to be big, you know.Hmmm.. It's not like I hate the genre, but generally I wouldn't say it's my cup of tea. I just don't really care for giant robots that much. Bigger is better. |
| I'm not sure why, but one day I just felt that I didn't want to watch mecha anymore. The last one I watched was probably gurren lagan and I enjoyed it very much, but I knew I didn't want to watch anymore. I could say how repetitive mecha is as a genre, but genres are kind of repetitive by nature, so that's not my real problem.... I'm just not interest in mecha's anime to the point where I wont watch an anime if I know there are mecha in it, even if the mecha hardly show up. Hell even when legend of korra brought in a mecha I was quite upset. |
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| No one dislikes mecha. You just haven't realized you like it. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
Ckan said: ApplePhi said: They don't have to be big, you know.Hmmm.. It's not like I hate the genre, but generally I wouldn't say it's my cup of tea. I just don't really care for giant robots that much. This is true, there is also the powered suit of armor type. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach" |
| the only mecha anime I have watched is Code Geass. |
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