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FairyTechnology said: I repeat, playing the Opression Olympics is a waste. You can not objectively judge what is worse because everyone is an individual and every individual is effected differently. No need to segregate.traed said: Females are disadvantaged some things and males disadvantaged others and sometimes its the same. The disadvantages of being a woman are far more serious and systemic than ones men face. |
| liberalism because the statue of liberty is a girl and i like girls he he |
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Rarusu-sama said: I-is it wrongComic_Sans said: Simone de Beauvoir's ideology I knew it |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Working_Designs said: FairyTechnology said: I don't believe that. It's true. Sorry you don't believe it. Men ARE second class citizens in Canada. Third wave Feminism destroyed equality here. It's true. Or to a certain degree. If the employer had to choose between a man or a woman who are equally good the employer is obliged to hire the woman, no matter what. That's bullshit imo |
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Comic_Sans said: Simone de Beauvoir's ideology Awesome. Simone de Beauvoir was an amazing and influential woman who I have so much respect for. She's a legend to me. |
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Oni_Link said: Working_Designs said: I don't really know what ideologies I support, but I know which ones I am against. If you know what you're against why don't you freaking write it then and not just quote a damn sentence. |
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| Could someone explain what makes liberalism and conservatism an ideology? I thought they do not exactly fit fully specific views since its fairly varried. I like new ideas but i do not reject old ones necisarily in entirety. I consider myself more liberal. |
| Social conservitive with a bit of Realpoltik, militarism, and federalism thrown into the works. I'm about as communist as Stalin. Not sure which if any of those fit me. |
traed said: I repeat, playing the Opression Olympics is a waste. There's no "olympics" here. It's simply the truth. Women are systemtically oppressed. And, in most Western countries, people of colour are systemically oppressed. This isn't a contest. It's just the truth. The idea that things are different is just not seeing the truth. traed said: You can not objectively judge what is worse because everyone is an individual and every individual is effected differently. No need to segregate. It would be nice if everyone was treated as an individual, but they are not. If you're a woman, you're less likely to be respected as a scientist. If you're black, you're more likely to be arrested and charged for a crime. As well as abused by the justice system in general. |
traed said: They are political ideologies.Could someone explain what makes liberalism and conservatism an ideology? I thought they do not exactly fit fully specific views since its fairly varried. I like new ideas but i do not reject old ones necisarily in entirety. I consider myself more liberal. Political ideologies have two dimensions: Goals: How society should be organized. Methods: The most appropriate way to achieve this goal. An ideology is a collection of ideas. Typically, each ideology contains certain ideas on what it considers to be the best form of government (e.g. democracy, autocracy, etc.), and the best economic system (e.g. capitalism, socialism, etc.). Sometimes the same word is used to identify both an ideology and one of its main ideas. For instance, "socialism" may refer to an economic system, or it may refer to an ideology which supports that economic system. Ideologies also identify themselves by their position on the political spectrum (such as the left, the centre or the right), though this is very often controversial. Finally, ideologies can be distinguished from political strategies (e.g. populism) and from single issues that a party may be built around (e.g. opposition to European integration or the legalization of marijuana). |
FairyTechnology said: traed said: I repeat, playing the Opression Olympics is a waste. There's no "olympics" here. It's simply the truth. Women are systemtically oppressed. And, in most Western countries, people of colour are systemically oppressed. This isn't a contest. It's just the truth. The idea that things are different is just not seeing the truth. traed said: You can not objectively judge what is worse because everyone is an individual and every individual is effected differently. No need to segregate. It would be nice if everyone was treated as an individual, but they are not. If you're a woman, you're less likely to be respected as a scientist. If you're black, you're more likely to be arrested and charged for a crime. As well as abused by the justice system in general. Do you feel like the problems are that severe that you want to create a political party evolving around this problem? Cause I sure as hell do not think so. |
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| Also as an add on, what you are listing as liberal in your view, is Libertarianism. The two arn't alike at all past a point. |
Rarusu-sama said: Never said I liked Sartre lolComic_Sans said: I-is it wrong Uhh Sartre-lover, twi-vale |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Rarusu-sama said: True dat, Sartre was a bad influence and an assholeComic_Sans said: Never said I liked Sartre lol But she did, if it's going to be an existentialist, it should be Kierkegasrd. But aside from that she was cool. I recommend The Second Sex if you're interested |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
PFFFT I read it when I was fourteen In French <3 |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Anarchism (specifically philosophical anarchism), Existentialism, and Hedonism, but I guess I believe in small parts of all of them, but less so for communism, nationalism, and democracy. |
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Rarusu-sama said: Watch out or Imma send you to the guillotineComic_Sans said: PFFFT I read it when I was fourteen In French <3 Hmm I could use the book pages as toiletpaper otherwise ;) VIVE LA FRANCE |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| i pray to god u guys arent in high school making these claims |
Rarusu-sama said: Neither of themComic_Sans said: Watch out or Imma send you to the guillotine VIVE LA FRANCE Well well, reading Simone, and now she's a republican too. Catholic? But Imma send you to the guillotine anyway |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I support no ideology. I am my own ideology. |
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| None. I have opinions on things but i don't follow a party line on anything. So my opinions may be the same income matters and different in others. Especially in political matters is so annoying hearing all this labeling. What i see often is they try to put you in a labeled group so they can discredit your argument by discrediting such label. |
_Izaya_ said: I support no ideology. I am my own ideology. What does this even mean? Do you support your own ideas or what? I find it hard when people say that they follow their own ideologies when basically everything has been put forth one way or the other. |
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| I support my own idealogy. Milky_way1886 said: What does this even mean? Do you support your own ideas or what? I find it hard when people say that they follow their own ideologies when basically everything has been put forth one way or the other. A person can form his ideals based on his life experience. The more you live, the more you realize what's right and wrong for you and how you want to live. What's the point in becoming a politician and basing your own opinion on the idealogy of your party? None, your own ideals will never come into fruition if you organize your own thoughts on other people's terms. |
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ArdenFolgore said: I support my own idealogy. Milky_way1886 said: What does this even mean? Do you support your own ideas or what? I find it hard when people say that they follow their own ideologies when basically everything has been put forth one way or the other. A person can form his ideals based on his life experience. The more you live, the more you realize what's right and wrong for you and how you want to live. What's the point in becoming a politician and basing your own opinion on the idealogy of your party? None, your own ideals will never come into fruition if you organize your own thoughts on other people's terms. But you will still need to have influence by big questions such as taxation for example. It's either higher taxation or lower taxation depending on what the party a speak wants to invest on. What I'm trying to say here is that it's hard to create your own ideology without having influence by the "big" ideologies thus requiring you to support a big party over another (To a certain degree) |
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| Communism all the way! |
FairyTechnology said: traed said: You can not objectively judge what is worse because everyone is an individual and every individual is effected differently. No need to segregate. It would be nice if everyone was treated as an individual, but they are not. If you're a woman, you're less likely to be respected as a scientist. If you're black, you're more likely to be arrested and charged for a crime. As well as abused by the justice system in general. I have yet to hear about this in my country. I think your perspective is too US-centric. And even if it is true, which I can see happen, it goes both ways. Male kindergarden or Pre-school teachers are always looked weirdly at, and Ill be damned if the thought of pedophile dosnt cross many peoples mind. Just because he is male and doing a typical "womans" work. Either way, those are social issues, and they affect both genders. Not ones to be tackled by laws. And I dont think they are that big. There are way bigger problems to solve in europe, with the financial crisis, and countries in the EU going bankrupt. And I really dont think state money should be wasted for such petty issues. Women and men are equal in front of the law here, they have the exact same rights and opportunities. I dont know the US, they have always been behind in this stuff, but atleast here thats how it is. Hell women have a few more rights now, since they have always been favored in front of the law in case of a divorce, who gets the children etc. Either way, playing the patriarchy and victim card might still be reasonable in the US, I dont know the situation there that well, but it is simply not true in many european countries. In europe there are still social issues, but not one gender is especially affected. That is why I think those issues should be tackled on a common base, not split into feminism and Masculinism or whatever is out there. But the problems that are left cannot be solved trough laws anyway, all we can really do is wait for the old folks to die and educate our children in a open minded and liberal way. I dont see how else you can change social issues. Laws dont change peoples thinking. TL;DR: Men and women have equal rights and opportunities, all the issues that are left are purely social issues. Which should and cannot be solved trough passing laws, as you cannot control what a person thinks, and at the same time are not that important compared to some other, mostly financiary issues we face in europe. |
koinzell-ub said: Anarchism. I hate society. I hate the system that the world works by. I hate goverments. People should live just as they want without restraining other's freedom. People should be given the chance to refuse being part of the society . .. .. Anarchism is not what you think it is.. I don't know what to say.. The point of Anarchism is you believe in the collective goodwill of the society and take part on it in equal standing. Basically it combines the true concept of democracy and socialism. It is the most social form of Ideology.. |
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koinzell-ub said: Anarchism. I hate society. I hate the system that the world works by. I hate goverments. People should live just as they want without restraining other's freedom. People should be given the chance to refuse being part of the society . .. .. Society is the natural extension of freedom though, evidently. In order to allow people to not be part of society on any considerable level, society would have to allow substantial lawless areas to exist. So no matter what, the anarchic world would be contingent upon society, which has unity and power. |
FairyTechnology said: What. The fact of the matter is that Patriarchy and male privilege are still real things.  I support whatever benefits me. I can argue for all of them and against them. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I would have to say I'm somewhere between liberals and social democrats although I'm not entirely sure they're ideologies. But if I had a to really pick it's be impossible because everything has a good and bad, eg high taxation ends up punishing the working classes while business and aristocrats simply avoid tax best they can. But not enough tax and the country can't fully support itself where it might get to the point health care and education (extreme example I know) aren't readily accessible to the majority of its citizens. My point being the ideology that I prefer is the one that can fix current issues now. Cau se in the long run we're all dead |
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baki502 said: That is pretty much how it is. Cant force someone to act better, being forced doesnt change who a person or society is.TL;DR: Men and women have equal rights and opportunities, all the issues that are left are purely social issues. Which should and cannot be solved trough passing laws, as you cannot control what a person thinks, and at the same time are not that important compared to some other, mostly financiary issues we face in europe. |
| I support my own way |
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| I tend to lean on several Anarcho-Syndicalism stances on economic issues, I believe taxes should be viewed as a tools to distribute wealth within society, I'm a proponent of Negative Income Tax. Also on Anarcho-Syndicalism stances where workers must have a share of the company they worked with to have a fair profit from their works. However I disagree with collective economy management on the top level, the government must still have power in the economy planning and regulation, otherwise it would only turns into collective capitalism. I agree with Social Anarchism stance on land property that still respects individual property rights. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| Conservatism (your vote) and Nationalism especially because the party i usually vote supports these ideologies. I personally think that a country should preserve their culture and their exports over others and don't lose their own valors. |
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