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Oct 6, 2014 11:09 AM

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ashishkaull said:
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How will you percive the nonphysical place you call heaven? Do you imagine it like living in a dream? Even to dream you need your brain to function, so, since your body is dead, how would you be able to experience heaven?
Heaven is just something humans made up because they´re afraid of things that cannot be explained or explored.


That means you don't believe in spirituality......Dharma and Karma.........

because there is no reason to believe in something that don't exist.
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That means you don't believe in spirituality......Dharma and Karma.........

because there is no reason to believe in something that don't exist.


Great to see a fellow Country Men in the Forum ............So u too don't believe....
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That means you don't believe in spirituality......Dharma and Karma.........

I´ve only seen Dharma & Greg :P
It´s hard to believe in something that was made up centuries or milleniums ago when people a) couldn´t explain many things happening (e.g. lightning) b) lived in societies where everyone had their roles assigned, mostly even from birth on.
Each religion gives us guidelines of how you should live and act. Being raised in the belief that a higher being forced the guidelines on us and that you get punished if you don´t follow the rules had a far greater influence on the mostly uneducated masses than some human saying "you shouldn´t do that because it´s ethical incorrect." Later, educated humans grew up with their surroundings believing in the higher being(s), were raised to believe in them too and had to consider the amount of influence religion had in politics, culture and everyday life.
Spirituality, though not all aspects of it invole gods, also dates back to the times when lacked explanations, so its aspects also were come up with over time. The reason why some things really seem to work is because those were developed with statistics.
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Whether or not you believe in God.

The fact of the matter is that God's existence is unknowable.

Which is why I'm an agnostic atheist.

I believe that God's existence is unknowable. Since, if you believe in a God, you can't be 100% sure. If you don't believe in God, you can't be 100% sure either.

At the same time, I lean more towards the belief that a God probably doesn't exist.
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Mycelistsukiyo said:
ashishkaull said:


That means you don't believe in spirituality......Dharma and Karma.........

I´ve only seen Dharma & Greg :P
It´s hard to believe in something that was made up centuries or milleniums ago when people a) couldn´t explain many things happening (e.g. lightning) b) lived in societies where everyone had their roles assigned, mostly even from birth on.
Each religion gives us guidelines of how you should live and act. Being raised in the belief that a higher being forced the guidelines on us and that you get punished if you don´t follow the rules had a far greater influence on the mostly uneducated masses than some human saying "you shouldn´t do that because it´s ethical incorrect." Later, educated humans grew up with their surroundings believing in the higher being(s), were raised to believe in them too and had to consider the amount of influence religion had in politics, culture and everyday life.
Spirituality, though not all aspects of it invole gods, also dates back to the times when lacked explanations, so its aspects also were come up with over time. The reason why some things really seem to work is because those were developed with statistics.


Were is the Proof that Ancient Civilizations were far less developed than us......

Its Similar too...........When we are asked about the Proof that Indian's Were first to use the Weapon of Mass destruction ( Nuclear Weapon )..........
God Rama created Stone bridge ( Ram Setu Or Adams bridge ) that connected India to Sri Lanka............which was recently proved by Science.......And is submerged in Ocean...........
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ashishkaull said:
God Rama created Stone bridge ( Ram Setu Or Adams bridge ) that connected India to Sri Lanka............which was recently proved by Science.......And is submerged in Ocean...........
No idea what you're talking about, but link please?
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SlothPriest said:
ashishkaull said:
God Rama created Stone bridge ( Ram Setu Or Adams bridge ) that connected India to Sri Lanka............which was recently proved by Science.......And is submerged in Ocean...........
No idea what you're talking about, but link please?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Bridge

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/faith-and-rituals/IS-BRAHMASTRA-A-NUCLEAR-WEAPON
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ashishkaull said:
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No idea what you're talking about, but link please?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Bridge

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/faith-and-rituals/IS-BRAHMASTRA-A-NUCLEAR-WEAPON
I meant just the bridge, not the weapons....

Well, I only skimmed over it but I didn't see anything mention scientific proof. I'm assuming you meant that science proved that "God Rama" created the bridge.
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The stone bridge could´ve been built by humans too. Architecture is older than most religions.
I´m just saying that the people were in general uneducated, of course every time has their scholars. But their knowledge in physics, biology and chemistry didn´t even come close to ours.
Btw, those dots are pissing me of. Can I kill you? ^____^
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ashishkaull said:
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No idea what you're talking about, but link please?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Bridge

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/faith-and-rituals/IS-BRAHMASTRA-A-NUCLEAR-WEAPON

hey, what if ancient aliens had that technology ? to create nuclear weapon or a bridge that big ? or just some magic abilities? (alien technology that we can't understand).
and how can you call rama a god? he was human for sure, define god pls
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Bridge

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/faith-and-rituals/IS-BRAHMASTRA-A-NUCLEAR-WEAPON
I meant just the bridge, not the weapons....

Well, I only skimmed over it but I didn't see anything mention scientific proof. I'm assuming you meant that science proved that "God Rama" created the bridge.


Nope ......the existence of Bridge............Which people never believed........
God Rama came 1.2 million years ago............Do u really think there is a proof.........So researchers say he was born around 5000 bc .......as the astrological combinations of Their Birth matches the one described in texts.....

God Krishna existence is a fact a no one can disapprove that.........
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Mycelistsukiyo said:
The stone bridge could´ve been built by humans too. Architecture is older than most religions.
I´m just saying that the people were in general uneducated, of course every time has their scholars. But their knowledge in physics, biology and chemistry didn´t even come close to ours.
Btw, those dots are pissing me of. Can I kill you? ^____^


Yup u can kill me............
But the base was set by these ancient Civilizations............
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ashishkaull said:
God Krishna existence is a fact a no one can disapprove that.........
Nah, actually, Odin just popped by and he says that's bullshit, so I'm gonna have to believe the word of the Allfather.
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If you cannot prove or disprove something, one usually assume it doesn´t exist. So why do you think that god does exist?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam's_Bridge

http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/seekers/faith-and-rituals/IS-BRAHMASTRA-A-NUCLEAR-WEAPON

hey, what if ancient aliens had that technology ? to create nuclear weapon or a bridge that big ? or just some magic abilities? (alien technology that we can't understand).
and how can you call rama a god? he was human for sure, define god pls


He was 7th incarnation of God Vishnu.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashavatara

In Hinduism, the concept of God varies from one sect to another and from one book to another. Hinduism is set in a diverse system of thought with beliefs spanning henotheism, monotheism, polytheism, panentheism, pantheism and monism among others.............

And if u closely look at it .........it will give u a hint about Evolution theory......
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ashishkaull said:
Nope ......the existence of Bridge............Which people never believed........
God Rama came 1.2 million years ago............Do u really think there is a proof.........So researchers say he was born around 5000 bc .......as the astrological combinations of Their Birth matches the one described in texts.....
What?

ashishkaull said:
God Krishna existence is a fact a no one can disapprove that.........
Can't be disproven =/= fact
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Nope ......the existence of Bridge............Which people never believed........
God Rama came 1.2 million years ago............Do u really think there is a proof.........So researchers say he was born around 5000 bc .......as the astrological combinations of Their Birth matches the one described in texts.....
What?

ashishkaull said:
God Krishna existence is a fact a no one can disapprove that.........
Can't be disproven =/= fact


Yup..............If u study Hindu dharma u will find it..........
God Rama was Born in 2nd yuga............This is 4th Yuga.........Also called Kalyug....

I am not asking u to believe............Just collect some ideas..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology
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ashishkaull said:
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What?

Can't be disproven =/= fact


Yup..............If u study Hindu dharma u will find it..........
God Rama was Born in 2nd yuga............This is 4th Yuga.........Also called Kalyug....

I am not asking u to believe............Just collect some ideas..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology
I seroiusly have no idea what you're talking about. I asked about one of your gods because you said that it was proven by science. You also said that another one was a fact. I'm asking for evidence that proves this.
I can't find any evidence that shows that they're proven or a fact from any of the links you're given.


Also, the way you type is annoying and makes it harder to understand.
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Yup..............If u study Hindu dharma u will find it..........
God Rama was Born in 2nd yuga............This is 4th Yuga.........Also called Kalyug....

I am not asking u to believe............Just collect some ideas..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology
I seroiusly have no idea what you're talking about. I asked about one of your gods because you said that it was proven by science. You also said that another one was a fact. I'm asking for evidence that proves this.
I can't find any evidence that shows that they're proven or a fact from any of the links you're given.


Also, the way you type is annoying and makes it harder to understand.

Buddha is the biggest Proof...........
Well............its bacause i have already been neglected by u on this topic........
Remember the last time i said about Srimad Bhagavad-Gita , Ramayan , Veda etc........And u said its as reliable as Bible............
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@ ashishkaull
so what do think about gods of other religions, they exist or not?
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ashishkaull said:


Yup..............If u study Hindu dharma u will find it..........
God Rama was Born in 2nd yuga............This is 4th Yuga.........Also called Kalyug....

I am not asking u to believe............Just collect some ideas..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology
I seroiusly have no idea what you're talking about. I asked about one of your gods because you said that it was proven by science. You also said that another one was a fact. I'm asking for evidence that proves this.
I can't find any evidence that shows that they're proven or a fact from any of the links you're given.


Also, the way you type is annoying and makes it harder to understand.

Its all beliefs.
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ashishkaull said:
SlothPriest said:
I seroiusly have no idea what you're talking about. I asked about one of your gods because you said that it was proven by science. You also said that another one was a fact. I'm asking for evidence that proves this.
I can't find any evidence that shows that they're proven or a fact from any of the links you're given.

Also, the way you type is annoying and makes it harder to understand.


Well............its bacause i have already been neglected by u on this topic........
Remember the last time i said about Srimad Bhagavad-Gita , Ramayan , Veda etc........And u said its as reliable as Bible............
For some reason, you put "Buddha is the biggest Proof..........." in a quote of me, which I never said. As far as I'm concerned, Buddha is just as real as Santa Claus, unless you can provide evidence that he's real.

Well, it is. You haven't provided any solid evidence as to how your gods are a fact. Even in the link you sent me via private messaging, it says that it's just a concept.
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so what do think about gods of other religions, they exist or not?


Yes they Exist............

Because as per some sects in Hindu dharma............Everything was born from Cosmic energy...........That we call shakti............
When Adharma was on rise.........This cosmic energy took a Form and gave a new path to the world ( Humans ).............
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As far as I'm concerned, Buddha is just as real as Santa Claus, unless you can provide evidence that he's real too.
Pretty sure Buddah's existence is rather well documented. Not that that really says anything, we know there was a guy named Jesus too, but that doesn't prove he did magic tricks and was some demigod.
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As far as I'm concerned, Buddha is just as real as Santa Claus, unless you can provide evidence that he's real too.
Pretty sure Buddah's existence is rather well documented. Not that that really says anything, we know there was a guy named Jesus too, but that doesn't prove he did magic tricks and was some demigod.
Oh, my bad. I thought he was a god :P

Just shows how much I know about the subject....
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Who ever told me to make threads about religion; you were right on target.
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Well............its bacause i have already been neglected by u on this topic........
Remember the last time i said about Srimad Bhagavad-Gita , Ramayan , Veda etc........And u said its as reliable as Bible............
For some reason, you put "Buddha is the biggest Proof..........." in a quote of me, which I never said. As far as I'm concerned, Buddha is just as real as Santa Claus, unless you can provide evidence that he's real too.

Well, it is. You haven't provided any solid evidence as to how your gods are a fact. Even in the link you sent me via private messaging, it says that it's just a concept.


That was a mistake and i corrected it.........
Really..........Really............You ask questions like

For a man or reasoning or in your case man of Proof/Evidence
Don't be lazy and Search your web..........Put your Blood and soul into it and u will find the answers.........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/buddha-birth-date-nepal_n_4340089.html

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/time_line_of_lord_krishna.htm
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ashishkaull said:
SlothPriest said:
For some reason, you put "Buddha is the biggest Proof..........." in a quote of me, which I never said. As far as I'm concerned, Buddha is just as real as Santa Claus, unless you can provide evidence that he's real too.

Well, it is. You haven't provided any solid evidence as to how your gods are a fact. Even in the link you sent me via private messaging, it says that it's just a concept.


That was a mistake and i corrected it.........
Really..........Really............You ask questions like

For a man or reasoning or in your case man of Proof/Evidence
Don't be lazy and Search your web..........Put your Blood and soul into it and u will find the answers.........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/buddha-birth-date-nepal_n_4340089.html
Well, It wasn't corrected by the time I wrote that.

Yeah, that was a mistake on my part:
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Baman said:
Pretty sure Buddah's existence is rather well documented. Not that that really says anything, we know there was a guy named Jesus too, but that doesn't prove he did magic tricks and was some demigod.
Oh, my bad. I thought he was a god :P

Just shows how much I know about the subject....


To be honest, I'm questioning what you're saying, I don't particularly care about the religion. That's why I haven't bothered researching.
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Your questions some times sound like...........

What is the proof that my great great great Grandfather existed ( and he was an Indian ) 500 years ago

or

Q What is the proof that Columbus discovered America ?
A Books talk about it

Q Its written by Man......Give me real evidence ?

If u stay like this.........U will become Ignorant............
Its better to study/research things and then discard them , if they fail to satisfy you .
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agnostic here ヽ(๑╹◡╹)ノ
actually, I don't even know whether I'm a theist or atheist, lol.
I was certainly raised as a theist, but I just don't have an idea if a god (/gods) exists or not.
I don't want to have to decide for something when I just know that I do not know.. @.@
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ashishkaull said:
Your questions some times sound like...........

What is the proof that my great great great Grandfather existed ( and he was an Indian ) 500 years ago

or

Q What is the proof that Columbus discovered America ?
A Books talk about it

Q Its written by Man......Give me real evidence ?

If u stay like this.........U will become Ignorant............
Its better to study/research things and then discard them , if they fail to satisfy you .
Don't know what your great great great Grandfather has to do with anything...

Doesn't mean it's a fact that Columbus discovered America.

No, I'm asking for proof that it's a fact, like you claimed it was. The things you've provided have identified places that have ties to your religion, not proof that your god/gods exist.
I don't care about the religion, I'm asking why you say they are a fact, with evidence.
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I'm agnostic in the sense that, if given adequate evidence in support of a higher power, I'll change my view. But since that hasn't happened, the answer to the initial question is a resounding no. So there's no reason to believe one exists. Therefore I am an (agnostic) atheist, and I always have been, even through my curiosity-driven forays into religion.
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Agnostic.

Though christian god seems quite improbable to me,even though that does not prove anything.
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Who ever told me to make threads about religion; you were right on target.

It happens every time.

Just like incest threads.
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DoubleC said:
Who ever told me to make threads about religion; you were right on target.

It happens every time.

Just like incest threads.


It is truly a beautiful thing. Still the hottest topic after 1000s of years.
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Apparently using the bible to prove the bible is valid.
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ashishkaull said:
Q What is the proof that Columbus discovered America ?
A Books talk about it

Well if we're being technical, Columbus only landed on Cuba and other Caribbean islands, thinking that it was East Asia. The one who seems to have made the connection that the Americas are a completely different land mass was Amerigo Vespucci. And even then, that wouldn't be entirely correct, because the Norse and other groups of people discovered the Americas centuries before then.

I think it would be better to use more correct analogies.
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Apparently using the bible to prove the bible is valid.
That's what I kept saying to the cashier.
See how can I not have any credit when I've got my card right here? Look just let me take that milk and go, allright?
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No. I think a higher power might exist, but I don't believe a personal god or any god from religion is real.
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Yeah, he's real. I sometimes hang out with him... he's a bit of an asshole though.
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Yeah, I'm a Christian after all.
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Agnostic here. To my mind there is a "God", but not the one described by religion. I don't imagine God as the benevolent old man watching over humans from the sky whatsoever. I rather picture it as... A kind of energy. If God is, definition-wise, the universe creator, maybe it's a big force or energy in the middle of universe that allows us to exist, and not a conscious being that'll lead us to heaven.
The idea of a religious God came up back then, when we didn't even know that the earth wasn't the only place and that there was a gigantic universeall around us. It can't last now with all our knowledges. God can't have devoted itself to only us, humans, if it has so many planets to deal with. According to religion humans were especially created by it and so on... Then explain why these religious books don't speak about the other planets.
However I have nothing against religion, I can uderstand why one would believe in God but I can't limit my thought to only humans.
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I'm deist, so I believe in a celestial being, the thing about being desist is, it's like you believe in it, yet you don't, Deist don't have a religion, and we don't accept certain symbols of religion, e.g the cross.
So yeah I believe in god, maybe it's because I grew with a family that believed in god, and maybe it's when I pray, I feel a sense of security or as if a burden as been lifted.

In the end, it doesn't matter if you believe or not, if you're theist or atheist, our graves will be the same size.

Unless your fat.

Then your grave is gonna be big.
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Of course I exist...
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Clapton is God.

Richard Clapton though, that Eric guy is just a former cokehead.
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Clapton


Who dat? Is he like Capleton's white brother?
'The way of the wang is long...and hard'
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Who dat? Is he like Capleton's white brother?



No-one expected God to look like Janis Joplin only with a penis, but there you go. When he played this song live in concert the first time unemployment in Uzbekistan halved within the hour.
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It's just I can't believe in something I can't taste/feel/etc. as I said before. But that's my case, I don't know about others.
It must be a quite hard life the one you have. You don't believe in air, you don't believe that you have a brain (unless some surgeons gave you a small piece of your brain for you to lick it), you probably don't believe in airplanes (unless you tasted one just to make sure it really exists)...
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