| SSY is still the best anime this decade had to offer. If we exclude the HxH remake. It was.... Subarashi. Desu. |
| End Zionazism |
| SSY never went for DVD/BD sales. The anime increases the sales of the original novel more than enough to call it a success. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| The lesson to take from this story is that there's simply no girl like a robot girl. |
| Is SSY translated? |
| End Zionazism |
san_sevieria said: Good luck with that, the industry is happy with feeding Otakus what they want, and they get tons of money from it, i hardly think anything could be done to change that"more shit and less gold is being produced by the anime industry and something needs to be done" |
| SSY is the adaptation of one novel, SAO is a series of LNs of course one left room for a sequel. Secondly, the revelations in SSY serve absolutely no purpose to the end game and is a flaw far too overlooked. Plus the characters were borderline mediocre, but I digress. |
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san_sevieria said: Ok, then please tell me a way on how to change what the industry in japan is thinking, and convince them to stop making shows aimed at otakus which might make them lose money, actually it would make them lose money, and focus on making smart, deep shows aimed for more of a mature audience?Okashi--chan said: Good luck with that, the industry is happy with feeding Otakus what they want, and they get tons of money from it, i hardly think anything could be done to change that Maybe we can stop accepting that it's unchangeable and start thinking of ways to improve the situation? the industry follows the money, if improving anime leads to a lose in profit, they won't. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: SSY never went for DVD/BD sales. The anime increases the sales of the original novel more than enough to call it a success. SAO both increased the sales of the original novel and sold a lot of BD/DVD. san_sevieria said: Maybe we can stop accepting that it's unchangeable and start thinking of ways to improve the situation? The only way to improve the situation would be to buy the anime. |
Okashi--chan said: san_sevieria said: Ok, then please tell me a way on how to change what the industry in japan is thinking, and convince them to stop making shows aimed at otakus which might make them lose money, actually it would make them lose money, and focus on making smart, deep shows aimed for more of a mature audience?Maybe we can stop accepting that it's unchangeable and start thinking of ways to improve the situation? the industry follows the money, if improving anime leads to a lose in profit, they won't. The answer is you can't and with the advent of anime based on mobile games expect the situation to get worse, luckily mobile adaptations tend to be just adaptations of idol raising games, RPGs, and dating sims, these are fine, it'll get worse when other genres of games are adapted that really shouldn't be adapted. |
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SetsukoHara said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: SSY never went for DVD/BD sales. The anime increases the sales of the original novel more than enough to call it a success. SAO both increased the sales of the original novel and sold a lot of BD/DVD. Well, OPs point was that SSY was a commecial failure indicating that we won't be seeing more anime like this which isn't true as far as I know. Of course SAO is more successful, that's not even up for debate. It's rare for a novel to get adapted in the first place, so even with SSY reaching its goal we won't be seeing many of those, but there's no indication that we'll be seeing less either. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Ckan said: Are there people who think otherwise?The lesson to take from this story is that there's simply no girl like a robot girl. |
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| I would rather watch something retarded that knows it's retarded, than a retarded show that's deluded it's clever. Not a specific put-down towards SSY, but in general there are many of those. Edit: not a defense of SAO either, personally I think it looks awful. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: SSY never went for DVD/BD sales. The anime increases the sales of the original novel more than enough to call it a success. It did? that's cool. I'll believe that because I want to believe that. |
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| The fact of the matter is the majority of people don't care for quality anime and that's a fact you're going to have to accept. Good luck finding more anime like Shinsekai Yori and less like Sword Art Online in the years to come. |
| "We owe a great deal to maniacs, but we can't make good works if we only pander to them." --Leiji Matsumoto before "otaku" was a common word I think I'll make that my signature... |
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| OP, did you buy From the New World, if it's available in your region? (Not sure why so many people refuse to use its very straightforward and logical English translation...) Because if not, then it sounds like you're just complaining about how other people are buying the shows they like instead of the shows you like, and expecting them to subsidize your consumption. ObliviousSenpai said: Or that the majority do like quality anime, but they don't actually buy anime -- as TheNaturalPerm points out, the maniacs/otaku do.The fact of the matter is the majority of people don't care for quality anime and that's a fact you're going to have to accept. |
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| @OP: Exactly my thoughts lmao I've been craving another SSY since I finished it and nothing has really come close, other than Sidonia no Kishi (the atmosphere; not the level of quality or complexity). And yeah, reason why it sold less is because the people who are into SSY fall into the group that don't like to throw money at DVDs and merchindaise. Well, I would buy SSY's merch and DVDs...if I had money. Mikasa said: Is SSY translated? It's partly fan-translated online but no, there isn't an official one. I'll be so happy when it gets fully translated one day! For now, I'm pretty satisfied with Yusuke Kishi's other (officially) Eng translated work "The Crimson Labirinth" |
MayukaSep 12, 2014 11:38 AM
| I haven't watch shinseki no yori, but it's simple, sao doesn't need to be better than shinseki, it just simple appeals to more people than shinsekai, when will you guys realize that? If your series doesn't appeal to a lot of people, it wont have great sales no matter how good you think it's. That's the sad truth. |
keragamming said: I haven't watch shinseki no yori, but it's simple, sao doesn't need to be better than shinseki, it just simple appeals to more people than shinsekai, when will you guys realize that? No, the main complaint is that stuff like SSY won't sell when SAO does. It's simple, but very flawed. Second complaint being we won't really see many shows like SSY because anime makers are more focused in making popular teenager shows like SAO. |
mayukachan said: keragamming said: I haven't watch shinseki no yori, but it's simple, sao doesn't need to be better than shinseki, it just simple appeals to more people than shinsekai, when will you guys realize that? No, the main complaint is that stuff like SSY won't sell when SAO does. It's simple, but very flawed. Second complaint being we won't really see many shows like SSY because anime makers are more focused in making popular teenager shows like SAO. Again, I haven't watch ssy yet, it may not even be that great as how you people are making it out to be, but the appeal is what matter in anime, no matter how good it's if it doesn't appeal to a large group of people it wont be selling. I'll be giving it a shot soon, but I don't have a high expectation, since you guys overrated knights of sidonia which wasn't all that great. |
keragamming said: mayukachan said: No, the main complaint is that stuff like SSY won't sell when SAO does. It's simple, but very flawed. Second complaint being we won't really see many shows like SSY because anime makers are more focused in making popular teenager shows like SAO. Again, I haven't watch ssy yet, it may not even be that great as how you people are making it out to be, but the appeal is what matter in anime, no matter how good it's if it doesn't appeal to a large group of people it wont be selling. Isn't that the complaint that the OP is making? |
keragamming said: I'll be giving it a shot soon, but I don't have a high expectation, since you guys overrated knights of sidonia which wasn't all that great. Knights of Sidonia I personally enjoy a lot even though I don't think the plot is great or anything. I think it does well as a medium (making good use of CGI/music etc.) and it stands out from the modern/recent shows. |
FloatsBoats said: keragamming said: Again, I haven't watch ssy yet, it may not even be that great as how you people are making it out to be, but the appeal is what matter in anime, no matter how good it's if it doesn't appeal to a large group of people it wont be selling. Isn't that the complaint that the OP is making? I don't know didn't read that long ass paragraph. |
keragamming said: FloatsBoats said: Isn't that the complaint that the OP is making? I don't know didn't read that long ass paragraph. hahaha neither, just guessed because of the title. |
Cyber_Bluez said: TL:DR........Why is'nt my favorite show popular.......Blah Blah Blah Says someone with GITS/JJBA/Kenshin in his faves... Yo, you don't know how we feel. We're stuck being fans of niche/unpopular anime. |
mayukachan said: keragamming said: I'll be giving it a shot soon, but I don't have a high expectation, since you guys overrated knights of sidonia which wasn't all that great. Knights of Sidonia I personally enjoy a lot even though I don't think the plot is great or anything. I think it does well as a medium (making good use of CGI/music etc.) and it stands out from the modern/recent shows. "and it stands out from the modern/recent shows." Really? I didn't see anything special about this series. Well, to each their own. |
keragamming said: mayukachan said: Knights of Sidonia I personally enjoy a lot even though I don't think the plot is great or anything. I think it does well as a medium (making good use of CGI/music etc.) and it stands out from the modern/recent shows. "and it stands out from the modern/recent shows." Really? I didn't see anything special about this series. Well, to each their own. We don't get actual sci-fi shows often... :/ Plus, it was an action show that was minimally funny/fanservicy/cutesy. Iunno, it was pretty serious compared to all the other action shows in the season (NGNL, Black Bullet, Akuma no Riddle) Plus, dat worldbuilding ummph |
| ssy will stand the test of time more than sao i think i can only hope so anyway... that it will be regarded rightfully as classic masterpiece by future critics and sao will be called trash rightfully so |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
OnlyTemporary said: ssy will stand the test of time more than sao i think i can only hope so anyway... that it will be regarded rightfully as classic masterpiece by future critics and sao will be called trash rightfully so As much as you don't like the series, you have to remember that their is plenty of people that actually likes the series as well, hence why it's popular. you maybe denying it, but sao will most likely stand the test of time more than ssy, simple because it's a well known series. ssy, will be remembered but only by a small amount of people. It doesn't have a big impact on the industry. It doesn't seem like a series that will be memorable. It will probably be forever underrated, if it's as good as what people are saying. |
keragamming said: OnlyTemporary said: ssy will stand the test of time more than sao i think i can only hope so anyway... that it will be regarded rightfully as classic masterpiece by future critics and sao will be called trash rightfully so As much as you don't like the series, you have to remember that their is plenty of people that actually likes the series as well, hence why it's popular. you maybe denying it, but sao will most likely stand the test of time more than ssy, simple because it's a well known series. ssy, will be remembered but only by a small amount of people. It doesn't have a big impact on the industry. It doesn't seem like a series that will be memorable. It will probably be forever underrated, if it's as good as what people are saying. Popular anime dies, good anime no. |
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crosx said: keragamming said: As much as you don't like the series, you have to remember that their is plenty of people that actually likes the series as well, hence why it's popular. you maybe denying it, but sao will most likely stand the test of time more than ssy, simple because it's a well known series. ssy, will be remembered but only by a small amount of people. It doesn't have a big impact on the industry. It doesn't seem like a series that will be memorable. It will probably be forever underrated, if it's as good as what people are saying. Popular anime dies, good anime no. Popular anime doesn't mean it equals to it being bad either. What logic is that? |
mayukachan said: Cyber_Bluez said: TL:DR........Why is'nt my favorite show popular.......Blah Blah Blah Says someone with GITS/JJBA/Kenshin in his faves... Yo, you don't know how we feel. We're stuck being fans of niche/unpopular anime. But you have Nodame and Detective Conan in your favourites two of the most celebrated franchises in Japan. |
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| SSY and SAO are both garb-tier in fact, i'd probably rather watch SAO than SSY if i had to |
keragamming said: crosx said: Popular anime dies, good anime no. Popular anime doesn't mean it equals to it being bad either. What logic is that? He's saying popularity eventually decreases over time but the quality of the anime stays the same. |
| So long as we show our appreciation of great shows like SSY then there won't be a problem. Most posts I've read on this board appreciate SSY. Just keep doing your part and recommending good shows and you'll at least contribute to more people appreciating great anime. |
| A guide to living with that one guys ugly signature on MAL. 1. See that SullyNathan has posted last in thread, abort thread. 2. After clicking quick reply, close eyes and type out reply. 3. Try to scroll as far down as possible before replying if you prefer to keep your eyes open. 4. Report said signature for being offensive to the eyes. 5. See he is active in thread, scroll through thread while trying not to have eyes burned, sigh, click back & lose interest. 6. Move to another part of MAL forums where he does not visit. MAL Jesus where are you? |
| Grabbing attention by putting Sword Art Onlijne in the thread title? How original of you, OP. |
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| didn't read but lets face it - sao is bullshit. |
| but why peoples are mistaking me with trolls so often? |
FloatsBoats said: keragamming said: Again, I haven't watch ssy yet, it may not even be that great as how you people are making it out to be, but the appeal is what matter in anime, no matter how good it's if it doesn't appeal to a large group of people it wont be selling. Isn't that the complaint that the OP is making? So he's just complaining people like different things...........I knew he was just gonna spout nonsense the moment I saw the title |
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| putting ssy and sao together is actually legit for comparison since they are both made by a-1 pictures |
keragamming said: crosx said: Popular anime dies, good anime no. Popular anime doesn't mean it equals to it being bad either. What logic is that? No, of course it doesn't. But SAO sucks so much that it makes Sasha Grey look like a virgin. Just sayin'. @op Just roll with it. We'll occasionally, probably, hopefully, get quality shows deserving of hype surrounding them. Until then, dig deeper and watch shit thrown at you just so you can make fun of it while taking a relaxing bath after beating the crap out of that kid who stole your Squealer toy. |
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| on a side-note, i got a strong SSY-like feel from Mari Okada's latest two works - Nagi no Asukara and Sono Kuroki Hagane, and i can only hope she will do more similar projects in the future also i really like your story OP; seeing anime as women |
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RagesEntity said: Merely "appreciating" it isn't enough -- if you really want to further the success of From the New World and shows of its ilk, buy them or at least watch them on legitimate streaming sites.So long as we show our appreciation of great shows like SSY then there won't be a problem. Most posts I've read on this board appreciate SSY. Just keep doing your part and recommending good shows and you'll at least contribute to more people appreciating great anime. |
MAND4 said: Just roll with it. We'll occasionally, probably, hopefully, get quality shows deserving of hype surrounding them. I can only think of Ping Pong, Barakamon and Haikyuu!!. I'm not even sure if Zankyou no Terror will stay good by the end. |
hybreezy said: mayukachan said: Says someone with GITS/JJBA/Kenshin in his faves... Yo, you don't know how we feel. We're stuck being fans of niche/unpopular anime. But you have Nodame and Detective Conan in your favourites two of the most celebrated franchises in Japan. Nodame? No. Conan, yeah. You have to see the rest of my favourites list though. It's a mix between mid-8 shows and high-7 shows. |
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