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epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! |
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tsudecimo said: epicscreator said: It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. |
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epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. That's quite a misrepresentation of what we feel. If what you say is accurate then this chapter would have about 95% 5/5 votes. The character is bland, he's not very fleshed out. Cool characters like him get old over time. The novelty of their antics wears out. "Oh cool he's got a new surprise power up his sleeve" can only work so many times...... Per character. It just doesn't help that he happens to be useless, Neither does the fact that the only way he could escape being useless is a plot hole-riddled deus ex machina. |
Danpmss said: tsudecimo said: Which is pretty sad to be honest. Just shows the maturity level of those who commonly read Shounen manga. I personally started really liking Kakashi after the war arc happened. Sure I liked him since the beginning, but I can hardly call him a favorite character of mine. I very much enjoyed his mental conflicts in regards to Obito. His reaction to realizing the identity of Tobi, was really satisfying, made me really feel for him, and his guilt and insecurities. First time I found him extremely interesting. And I liked the change in dynamics in Team 7, with Kakashi not being able to guide them, and him looking back at their past selves. The war arc added a lot of depth to Kakashi's character. Good stuff! That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. Kakashi getting a stupid power up doesn't affect his past conflicts, and relationship with Obito. Unless you specifically mean the Team 7 dynamics :o |
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tsudecimo said: Danpmss said: That unfortunately was ruined by this chapter :/ Let's just hope Kishimoto at least try to explain better this bullshit that just happened. Kakashi getting a stupid power up doesn't affect his past conflicts, and relationship with Obito. Unless you specifically mean the Team 7 dynamics :o Yeah, that was my point (replying to the things you mentioned so far). |
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| I'm surprised this ended up causing more of a shitstorm than the kaguya revealed, still i do think its funny how saskue was pretty much calling out how bullshit this whole situation was in the last few panels |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| i liked it. at first i didn't understand what exactly happened/how it did but after some thought it made more sense. |
JizzyHitler said: I'm surprised this ended up causing more of a shitstorm than the kaguya revealed, still i do think its funny how saskue was pretty much calling out how bullshit this whole situation was in the last few panels Also, don't forget BZ reaction, too. So much for so called mastermind. |
epicscreator said: It's okay though.DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. His dedicated fangirls will still be there for him, no matter what. and I'm totally not one of them |
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DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. Kakashi was one of the last 'Shinobi-like' characters in Naruto. Even against the Bijū he didn't have to use overpowered Jutsu like Bijūdama to defend himself and his friends. That characteristic is gone and the way of doing it was kinda nonsense. |
Behemoth11 said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. Kakashi was one of the last 'Shinobi-like' characters in Naruto. Even against the Bijū he didn't have to use overpowered Jutsu like Bijūdama to defend himself and his friends. That characteristic is gone and the way of doing it was kinda nonsense. It's not like they hating Kakashi, it's because of how he handled by Kishi. I thought everyone(okay..it's most) agree that this Susano'o decision was a bad thing. I can't believe there actually someone who actually dislike this character. At most people just called him "average" for whatever reason. But now things turned out like this, you can't blame those hate wave either. Just because i like a character, didn't mean that i would accept everything the author came up with for that said character. |
| MY KAMUI IS ONE THAT'LL PIERCE THE HEAVENS or hell epicscreator said: DrizzyXP said: I don't understand why everyone, and by everyone I mean mostly everyone on Youtube, is hating on Kakashi? What has he exactly done to merit such amount of hate? He's one of the last good Naruto characters. It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. sooo people dislike Kakashi because he's not badass............in a chapter where he gained a badassery upgrade seems legit |
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| Goddamnit! Right when the biggest hatestorm of the manga is going on, i decided to 'wait for a explanation in the next chapter1' ;-; |
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vongola-undecimo said: MY KAMUI IS ONE THAT'LL PIERCE THE HEAVENS or hell epicscreator said: It's because he's (arguably) not as badass as he used to be. Lots of people seem to feel that if a main character isn't awesome enough in a battle shounen, then that character holds no value. sooo people dislike Kakashi because he's not badass............in a chapter where he gained a badassery upgrade seems legit Depends on how you see the situation. He needed a crappy deus ex machina to become "badass" again. That's not badass at all to me. Still like him though, just didn't like how Kishi used him here. |
| I think it's really an exaggeration to call it a deus ex machina... |
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| Fair enough, though at the least I think it's asspull-ish in nature (Kakashi being able to use full armor Susanoo just like that). |
epicscreator said: Fair enough, though at the least I think it's asspull-ish in nature (Kakashi being able to use full armor Susanoo just like that). Yeah. I would have preferred if it's just Kamui again. Asspull or not, Susanoo doesn't fit him or his character at all, it was so jarring to see it, I don't see any badassery about it. |
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| @Boombawks yeah I guess, no way the votes would go up this fast. Not for this chapter anyway. Unless Obito came back from the dead to hand them over. |
| These guys actually really liked this chapter and they give some decent reasons on why.. I just want to see what you guys think about what they said. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NraOCEZiDaw |
| WTF with kakashi's sharingan... I love it, it's just awesome to see kakashi's doing badass action... |
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Itachi_0893 said: This manga is stupid since the shinobi war, but given that everyone gets power ups from their asses Like? |
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Itachi_0893 said: This manga is stupid since the shinobi war, but given that everyone gets power ups from their asses, I don't mind Kakashi's power up, is the only thing I've liked so far in this arc, that was epic, let's hope Kakashi do something useful from now on. My favorite was the first Kyubi cloak before the chakra BS, becase at least they made it look like at least some training. |
| The Bijuu Rasenshurikens takes the cake this chapter. It was so good seeing all versions. |
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| I thought we're done with the Obito thing already, but damn, he travels through the world of life and death, that's connected with chakra? Is Kishimoto-sensei going into that direction? Creating an underworld..? Then the moment he appeared before Kakashi (of course it's all in his mind) I was like, fuck this shit. Okay, it's not that bad if he got back the sharingan, if it's compared to the Susanoo shit, like.. what the fuck, don't tell me his dad is from the Uchiha clan, or that he mated with a girl from the Uchiha.. or maybe Obito gave Kakashi his blood LOL! My God what's wrong with Kishimoto-sensei. -.- Edit: The poll result is amazing, 45.49% voted for below average, with 32.99% agreement that this is a shit chapter. Edit 2: I like the idea of making Kakashi the 6th Hokage tho, Naruto could wait a little longer imo with his mentality. Edit 3: I'd like to see a Kakashi in this state vs Madara at his best. |
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| Kakashi shouldn't have gotten the Susano'o. |
| ... I have no idea how the hell Obito did that, but OH DEAR LORD KAKASHI HAS SUSANOO???????? There's just one problem, though. Kakashi always kept his left eye covered because he couldn't turn off Sharingan due to him not being an Uchiha. Now that both eyes are Sharingan, what's he supposed to do, go around blind? I'm waiting for the cop out explanation as to how Kakashi can amazingly turn off Sharingan despite not being an Uchiha, probably only because he has both now. |
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| I really digged the SUPER TAILED BEAST RASENSHURIKEN attack! But that "gift" of Obito to kakashi was, like, hiper forced... |
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| Lol, Obito gave Kakashi a better present this time. |
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| oh wow. Kakashi's new eyes + susano look amazing. Thank you for everything obito :) |
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