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Jul 21, 2014 1:27 AM

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martial arts expert is so fucking weak for a master of ten years, he cant even subdue a kid bear-hugging him.


He did say he got kicked out, maybe he was good at combat but was too incompetent?
Also, he's not a master of 10 years, he was a master 10 years ago, until he got kicked out and hired as a guard. 10 years of fucking and guarding probably weakened him quite a bit.

That's a poor excuse to be honest. I would've gouged out tatsumi's eyes or kicked him in the nuts if I was in a death situation like that.
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Torture? You don't know what torture means eh?
"the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain."

That didn't even go for more than 1 Minute.

You're so full of weak complaints. What's next?


And of course @ all who think this wasn't torture.

1) Just because you can be MORE cruel doesn't mean this wasn't cruel.
2) Go back watch the ep She begs for him to help her, and yet he still kills her without merci. Surely she deserved it, right?

3) Apparently you have to kill everyone, you cannot let anyone take hostage or let go etc. It's binary. It's black and white.


They left out the part from the manga where she curses at him and hopes he dies before he's about to kill him. Simple mistake. Bad White Fox.

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And not even a good shot at that. My theory is that pumpkin does the aiming XD



But dry water would be so much cooler ^u^ Sometimes you just get bored of wet water, you know? I like to think of it like this: Say you have a glass of lemon juice. Keep adding sugar and you will eventually get lemonade. But add a drop of piss and no one will drink it.



Yeah, this is more than kinda annoying. Personally, I'm hoping they're saving the ca$h for the main fights later on.


Thank you, come again. You had some valid points. For now.



It would've indeed been much better. But it isn't, and I like it the way it is.



Soon, my friend. Soon.



Yes. Indeed. I agree.



I commend all you dedicated men and women who put time and effort into these posts. Stay strong for the weak, for the weak are not strong.

WOW. I'm done. Can't believe I actually read all of that.

On the whole, I disliked the chapter. I don't like Mein, for obvious reasons. Didn't like the fight at the end. I don't like ill-timed humour. It just doesn't feel right in an anime, whereas I can just shrug it off if it were in a manga. I like Braht. Manliest man in AgK! I like Rabac's decisiveness. Besides, he's got another reason to keep his V-tag. XD

Hope next ep is better. Can't wait!
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I love the artwork to this series. It's simply beautiful.

Anyway, I dunno why, but I feel really melancholic thinking about Sayo and Ieyasu and how Tatsumi must feel.



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Jul 21, 2014 1:39 AM
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NoongaJuice said:
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And of course @ all who think this wasn't torture.

1) Just because you can be MORE cruel doesn't mean this wasn't cruel.
2) Go back watch the ep She begs for him to help her, and yet he still kills her without merci. Surely she deserved it, right?

3) Apparently you have to kill everyone, you cannot let anyone take hostage or let go etc. It's binary. It's black and white.


They left out the part from the manga where she curses at him and hopes he dies before he's about to kill him. Simple mistake. Bad White Fox.

Yah. That was a big mistake on White Foxes part. Still, she knew the general area of where the base was, and he couldn't risk ANYTHING leaking out. He did the right thing imo.
Jul 21, 2014 2:16 AM

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The action battles and the resolution in this anime tend to be underwhelming. When does the group Jagears appear?
Jul 21, 2014 2:26 AM

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Pretty good. The scene where Tatsumi and Mine worked together was great. I hardly can't believe that guy was alive after having a hole in his chest.
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1) dark/edgy things happens, then in the next scene its some random generic comedy.. gore/blood on full display, then you have some tsundere loli in underwears.
2) action/battle scenes are stills most of the time or just uninteresting because they barely show anything on screen
3) in this episode, the guard can dodge a barrage of bullet but can't free himself from some kid that isn't that powerful/strong physically
4) ..

I could go on but analyzing this is giving me a headache.. the anime isn't bad, just overhyped.. Its simply a better Zero no Tsukaima.

Also, your comment is rather funny. You dismiss every good point that was made prior in this thread by calling it trolling.


Point three is wrong, Tatsumi is physicaly strong enough to one-shot 6 meters danger beast, the Earth dragon. He has unhuman stats by default.

Anyway transition between moods is bad, I myself love mood whipslashes, but this one doesn't do that well. It become smoother due time a bit though.

Still frames indeed are quite issue, White fox thing they can make it look ĺike stilisation choice, but it doesn't work well.

Anyway anime didn't get into point where manga fully established it's merrit yet, because that these three episodes are rather non indicative.


I actually enjoy the series as a whole, but let's be reasonable here; that *was* somewhat of an inconsistency.

Even taken the presumption the kid has more than average strength and bear-hugging-power...fact remains his head and back were totally exposed.

So a martial arts master who could kill with his hands and dodge bullets is not capable of breaking of destroying a spine? Gauging out the MC's eyes? Break his neck?

I could understand his weak response if it were a normal guard. But then he couldn't have dodged bullets. Or, as was the case, you let him dodge bullets and portray him as a strong 'master'...but then his actions when the MC's back was exposed was inexplicably weak. and it's not he didn't have time neither, they were talking and making jokes for half a minute while bear-hugging him.

It's nothing major, granted, but one can't go the other way and act as if it's NO inconsistency neither. That scene didn't make much sense, period. It doesn't make or break the series, but it is a little thing that they (or the mangaka) could have done better. It just feels awkward and as 'something is off' when you see a person first portrayed as a capable martial artist master, who seems to be confident about killing two persons which his bare hands, dodges bullets with ease even at close distance, stops a sword flang at him (also by the 'strong' same MC) with his hands, etc....and then see him incompetent and incapable like that in a situation that would lend itself for dealing some major damage, in fact.
Jul 21, 2014 2:51 AM

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I concur. A small detail in the grand scheme of things, but to me that is what makes or breaks an anime. Sure, you can have an amazing plot, characters, feels, be it whatever. If you don't get the small stuff right, I'm not satisfied.

Probably just me though.
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Jul 21, 2014 3:15 AM

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I actually enjoy the series as a whole, but let's be reasonable here; that *was* somewhat of an inconsistency.

Even taken the presumption the kid has more than average strength and bear-hugging-power...fact remains his head and back were totally exposed.

So a martial arts master who could kill with his hands and dodge bullets is not capable of breaking of destroying a spine? Gauging out the MC's eyes? Break his neck?

I could understand his weak response if it were a normal guard. But then he couldn't have dodged bullets. Or, as was the case, you let him dodge bullets and portray him as a strong 'master'...but then his actions when the MC's back was exposed was inexplicably weak. and it's not he didn't have time neither, they were talking and making jokes for half a minute while bear-hugging him.

It's nothing major, granted, but one can't go the other way and act as if it's NO inconsistency neither. That scene didn't make much sense, period. It doesn't make or break the series, but it is a little thing that they (or the mangaka) could have done better. It just feels awkward and as 'something is off' when you see a person first portrayed as a capable martial artist master, who seems to be confident about killing two persons which his bare hands, dodges bullets with ease even at close distance, stops a sword flang at him (also by the 'strong' same MC) with his hands, etc....and then see him incompetent and incapable like that in a situation that would lend itself for dealing some major damage, in fact.


From that position it' s pretty much impossible land full power hits, plus human upper back are realy solid and can absorb impact. If that martial artist were using some equivalent of Muay Thai and was fluent in elbow strikes instead of standart, it would be trouble... or if he had knife... or if he were good in grapling but standart kung-fu/Karate direct strikes can't do much damage. Just try hit yourself into chest and see how much power you would be able deliver.
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Jul 21, 2014 4:39 AM

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Underwhelming action in a row. Seriously.
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Jul 21, 2014 4:43 AM

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You know what bothers me the most so far?

It's "Schere" like the German word for scissors, it's obvious and makes sense looking at her weapon. Not "Sheele", the voice actors even clearly try to speak "r"...
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Jul 21, 2014 5:25 AM

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How can you rationalize an obvious flaw? it's common sense to assume he could deal with this type situation with no problem when he is being portrayed as a master at karate or sth... With the information showed to us at that moment the assumption is he can easily break free from that, period.
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Jul 21, 2014 5:27 AM

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How can you rationalize an obvious flaw? it's common sense to assume he could deal with this type situation with no problem when he is being portrayed as a master at karate or sth... With the information showed to us at that moment the assumption is he can easily break free from that, period.


Actually Grappling is often the weakness of some martial arts. If you immobilize arms or don't let someone move freely you can lock most martial arts. The trick is getting close enough
Jul 21, 2014 5:29 AM

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Yep, that's exactly that. Strike martial art doesn't do well against grapling in most cases.
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DancingJack said:
It's "Schere" like the German word for scissors, it's obvious and makes sense looking at her weapon. Not "Sheele", the voice actors even clearly try to speak "r"...
The writer gave the official names and made them English. And also katakana doesn't really have an "l" sound, it's replaced by "r" when pronouncing English words with kana.
Jul 21, 2014 5:41 AM

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How can you rationalize an obvious flaw? it's common sense to assume he could deal with this type situation with no problem when he is being portrayed as a master at karate or sth... With the information showed to us at that moment the assumption is he can easily break free from that, period.


Actually Grappling is often the weakness of some martial arts. If you immobilize arms or don't let someone move freely you can lock most martial arts. The trick is getting close enough


Even I do well against Grappling and I am no martial artist..... Not to mention that waht you guys say about martial artists is not common knowledge(and AGK doesn't mention it) for the most that might watch this anime or anime in general so you think they will go "Oh that makes sense cause martial artists are bad dealing with grappling.."
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Darklight0303 said:
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How can you rationalize an obvious flaw? it's common sense to assume he could deal with this type situation with no problem when he is being portrayed as a master at karate or sth... With the information showed to us at that moment the assumption is he can easily break free from that, period.


Actually Grappling is often the weakness of some martial arts. If you immobilize arms or don't let someone move freely you can lock most martial arts. The trick is getting close enough
Given the way he was grabbed, that dude had enough freedom of movement to either grab Tatsumi from under his belly and lift him, or knee/punch him in the sides. Assuming he's physically thougher than Tatsumi and can easily tear flesh with his bare hands, that dude should've been able to get rid of him fairly easily or at least move, if only a little, while Tatsu was still grabbing him.

That was no effective grappling there: just mild retardation.
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Oh, so something new has been added. I like it. At least it's a good change. Though when Mine started explaining the Imperial Arms, I find her answers a bit inconsistent, though that's just me. so far, the anime is going about this really well. I also like Tatsumi and Mine arguing there.
Jul 21, 2014 6:10 AM

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Night Raid really does show no mercy.
Jul 21, 2014 6:32 AM

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Episode a bit monotonous, but for presentation of the characters, until it was better than the other. The beginning of Akame Ga does not excite much, the manga starts getting good of Chapter 20 forward, I hope the anime can at least there, do a good job giving more emphasis on the characters.
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poorly executed episode, but still nice ED
Jul 21, 2014 6:57 AM

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Good episode even though the action isn't super hardcore :)
Jul 21, 2014 7:02 AM

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I guess I'm one of the few people who are not annoyed on Mine's/Mein's character. Although that would be bias because I like tsunderes.
Jul 21, 2014 7:17 AM

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Decent episode but it felt a bit 3edgy5me at times.
Jul 21, 2014 8:29 AM
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mein looks better without twin ponytails
Jul 21, 2014 9:17 AM

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poorly executed episode, but still nice ED


"Poorly executed episode", care to elaborate?
Jul 21, 2014 9:55 AM

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Thank you.
1) dark/edgy things happens, then in the next scene its some random generic comedy.. gore/blood on full display, then you have some tsundere loli in underwears.
2) action/battle scenes are stills most of the time or just uninteresting because they barely show anything on screen
3) in this episode, the guard can dodge a barrage of bullet but can't free himself from some kid that isn't that powerful/strong physically
4) ..

I could go on but analyzing this is giving me a headache.. the anime isn't bad, just overhyped.. Its simply a better Zero no Tsukaima.

Also, your comment is rather funny. You dismiss every good point that was made prior in this thread by calling it trolling.



I wasn't dismissing every good point, i'm just not gonna sort through 8+ pages to find them. I'm glad you found it funny though.

That third point you made was a good one. Those are the types of points i'm looking for. Genuine error, none of that opinion bull crap. Opinion is for your personal rating, if you want to argue the quality with others then i want a real error. Fan-service is not an error. Laughing after dark moment, that i find partially to be an error, but only because i read the manga first.

I'm used to seeing comments about generic this or that, but that is a poor argument, because it's just an opinion. The opinion that generic things are bad, which also doesn't make sense, because 90% of anime today are full of generic things.

For example:
Romances have romance and kissing in it. BAD!
Harems have no conclusions and tsunderes/childhoodfriends/sadists/etc.BAD!
Girls have big boobs. BAD!

Most of these arguments are simply stating that because it repeats a commonly used concept. It is bad or not worth the hype it gets.(nothing is ever worth the hype, i want people to watch this anime NOT to make it a new Snk or SAO)

Many people compare this to SnK. SnK has its fair share of generic elements and tropes as well. "Prove it; examples!"

No. This doesn't mean there aren't examples, it just means that its blatantly obvious that no anime is perfect or the "Best Anime" ever. So of course SnK would have errors, as will AgK, but pointing out errors isn't what i'm here to do. I'm here to make a point. OPINIONS ARE USELESS IN ARGUMENTS.

Example: Is abortion wrong?

Opinion - Yes.

Factual - Killing(humans) both wrong morally and legally. Abortion is defined as the termination of birth during the first 28 weeks of pregnancy. The definition of Life is the existence of a human being or animal. And killing is the act of ending life. Therefore, as a fetus is technically a pre-mature existing human, it is alive, and the termination of its birth involves killing it and ending its life. Therefore it is wrong because it is indeed the killing of another human.


Thank you for your points though.
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One of this show's problems so far is the mixed messages it's sending by including gore and graphic themes while lacking the maturity to make anyone take them seriously. That's why none of this is clicking for me right now. If I stop taking it seriously, it's nothing more than glorified gore-service with sex jokes and cookie cutter stock characters/scenarios.

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Anybody who was bitching about it not adapting that beggining scene before, have no complaints now do they, lol , so far so good, there doing a great adaptation hope they keep it up.

What begging scene? I do not recall that.

Anyway the adaptation looks nice all in all. And it reminded me how amazing Honest is. I mean he's easily one of the weakest characters ever seen, yet puts everybody to shame by being the root of anything.
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Meh episode. I started this just because I was curious about all the hype, but this isn't really my type of anime. Maybe it's just me but I think this is uh, kinda generic. Thinking of dropping this. I hope something that might interest me happens next episode.
Jul 21, 2014 10:47 AM

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Very mediocre anime as of right now. What the hell? That guard couldn't pick Tatsumi up and throw him even though he's twice his height and weight? Great idea to just hit him repeatedly on the back instead of scuffling away or picking him up, lol. Then the cliche scene of "Don't think you'll get away with this!". *rolls eyes* This anime is very "meh", I'll continue watching though.
Jul 21, 2014 10:50 AM

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This episode wasn't all that special,they were just completing a couple of missions.

Jul 21, 2014 11:31 AM

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good ep. mine was funny
Jul 21, 2014 11:45 AM

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So it looks like it'll be a mission per episode.

Also, Bulat's seiyuu is Konishi Katsuyiki and he's being called Aniki by the MC.

Does that ring a bell?
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So it looks like it'll be a mission per episode.

Also, Bulat's seiyuu is Konishi Katsuyiki and he's being called Aniki by the MC.

Does that ring a bell?


It does. In more ways than one
Jul 21, 2014 12:17 PM

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Another terrific episode! Im torn between this and Ao haru ride for my favorite anime this season :)
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So it looks like it'll be a mission per episode.

Also, Bulat's seiyuu is Konishi Katsuyiki and he's being called Aniki by the MC.

Does that ring a bell?
For me it does not at least.
Jul 21, 2014 12:31 PM

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That was fun.
Mine is being way too tsundere, her voice is still annoying though. And does Akame have a thing for Tatsumi? Haha... So a love triangle maybe with Mine involved (since this was more of a date with Mine than training).

The comedy was good this time since there was a lack of seriousness in the episode overall. Action wasn't too bad but I was hoping we'd get to see more, instead fights last a couple of seconds.. Will there be a tournament or something where we have longer battles?
Well anyway, fun episode is fun 4/5
Jul 21, 2014 12:59 PM

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Great episode Mine is a badass with that sniper.
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Great episode again this week

Was really glad that we got the Infiltration thing in this episode and that they adapted the next chapter perfectly

The action was great as usual, although we got a lot of stills but the art for it captures the mood just fine. I think I know why they are doing that...This way they won't have to censor anything - and there wasn't any censoring as far as I'm concerned

Braht and Leone were just awesome as always....But damn, I never laughed this much when I read this in the manga, I'm loving the comedy xD

5/5

Looking forward to the first Teigu v Teigu (Anime only people should pay close attention to the concept behind this) match in the next episode


Wow, haha, you guys were definitely right!
I already had my mind prepared not to see the invasion...but wow, White Fox Studio definitely didn't disappoint! (But the part Akame not saving Tatsumi threw me off...I'm getting too greedy right now. >x<)

The part where Tatsumi was holding on to the enemy felt a bit too long in the anime, probably because you can just go through that scene pretty quickly in the manga...

Tatsumi definitely raised Mine's flag! And all those shopping in the beginning...it really makes the early episodes look really peaceful compared to what it will be in the future.... I gotta enjoy all the "peaceful" time they have right now, so that I can miss those even more in upcoming episodes...*sigh*

Bulat's before and after scene never fails me to get chuckle out of me. xD

I'm really looking for the longer action scenes in the future though! The current villains are nothing compared to the villains that are going to appear in future!

They're finally showing the first Teigu vs Teigu battle in the anime!

The faithful adaptation really makes me really happy when I watch 1 cour anime that have a lot of materials to cover, but not enough time to go through all of them.

P.S. Reading chapter 51 of the manga after watching this episode made me really sad...so painful...

I watched it in a house that has 6X or so in TV...man, that was beautiful...I really need to have big HDTV for even more better viewing experience. XD
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ugh I hate Mein... And I don't really like how Tatsumi looks.
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Put me in the boat of "loving what I'm seeing" from this show so far. I actually don't mind the transitions from serious gore to comedic moments like others and think it adds a bit of character and lightheartedness to an otherwise really dark story/setting. I don't need all my gory shows to be SnK. It's a fun show and I'm looking forward to seeing how it progresses but...

I'm at the point where I'm so tempted to read the manga and skip ahead because I've gotten hooked to the setting/characters and know that this season still won't be able to cover all of the manga material (mostly, I'm just not very patient). I've also heard great things about the manga which doesn't help. I give the over/under at sucuumbing to the manga at 2 weeks.
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Excellent episode!

More missions and killing off evil-doers andd less of the mushy stuff. The bad guys this time were a perfect dose of Evil. I loved how the Minister was taunting that guy about his wife even as he was about to die. Makes them all the more worth killing, and all the more satisfying when they do die.
I'm seriously tempted to start the manga right now.

Bring on the next episode! Quick!
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Hey is it just me or is someone else getting the feeling that this show will just troll everyone and have a grimdark ending? Because like, so far the main characters' goals are all full of "hope" and stuff, I get the feeling that they will most likely not have that happy ending they want and will instead just all die.
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Hey is it just me or is someone else getting the feeling that this show will just troll everyone and have a grimdark ending? Because like, so far the main characters' goals are all full of "hope" and stuff, I get the feeling that they will most likely not have that happy ending they want and will instead just all die.


You have no idea how hard the author trolls his readers in the manga. Since I have already read the manga, talking about it will be like a "spoiler" since you already have the thought that "the show might troll".
All I can say is enjoy the peaceful life they have right now.
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Botato said:
Hey is it just me or is someone else getting the feeling that this show will just troll everyone and have a grimdark ending? Because like, so far the main characters' goals are all full of "hope" and stuff, I get the feeling that they will most likely not have that happy ending they want and will instead just all die.
Nah, that would mean that this took itself seriously, which it really doesn't. Now that I look at the manga again I see the supposed comedic moments which I didn't pay much attention to since I never wanted them and never accepted them as such.

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You have no idea how hard the author trolls his readers in the manga. Since I have already read the manga, talking about it will be like a "spoiler" since you already have the thought that "the show might troll".
All I can say is enjoy the peaceful life they have right now.
I'm interested. I like getting trolled.

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Nah, that would mean that this took itself seriously, which it really doesn't. Now that I look at the manga again I see the supposed comedic moments which I didn't pay much attention to since I never wanted them and never accepted them as such.
I'll admit that not trying to take this seriously made the episode more enjoyable, also the comedy was mostly hit. Still though I just get the feeling that it will do something like that later on.
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Mine badass sniper

Plus Mine fan service :D

5/5
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Love it. Also loved how blatantly Mine gave her backstory. No beating around the bush, that one XD
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First episode hooked me, but now I'm growing very skeptical of my expectations. Can anyone who's read the manga tell me whether or not were going to see something .."epic" happen anytime soon? Or did the show peak in the first episode :/ no spoilers plz
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