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Jan 25, 2018 1:46 AM

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yeah you can put Okada as the best too but I don't understand what he says so the mic skill I can't say a word about it and tell how good he actually is. Love Lesnar, hate the fact that he is a part-timer, hopefully Braun can get the title this Sunday.


Mic skills fall into the subjective category. Some wrestlers do not need to say much, or anything at all, to be a financial success. Look at Undertaker through a large part of his career. He didn't have to talk. The mystique of the character was a large part of his appeal. Same with Kane. Kane is one of the best promo men in the WWE in my opinion, but he doesn't need to talk in order to sell a match or a feud. Strowman is the exact same way. As is Brock Lesnar. Fans don't spend money on tickets to see Brock Lesnar cut a promo. They pay to watch him destroy people.
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Bacardi-x-Cola said:

Okada is the main draw in Japan, and Japan doesn't even want Kenny to be as good as he is, Brock is the main draw in America and he doesn't even talk, talking doesn't mean shit, it's who buys your shirts and sells tickets, and the only reason you like Braun is because of Roman.


In the beginning this was true. A lot of fans were clearly hopping on Braun's bandwagon due to their hatred of Roman. However, Braun kept them on board because he's fun to watch, plays his role well, and looks and acts believable. I'm not sure that he can be the box office draw that Lesnar has been. I have yet to see those numbers. Roman could have been, and might still could be, if WWE doesn't keep fucking up his booking.
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Bacardi-x-Cola said:

Okada is the main draw in Japan, and Japan doesn't even want Kenny to be as good as he is, Brock is the main draw in America and he doesn't even talk, talking doesn't mean shit, it's who buys your shirts and sells tickets, and the only reason you like Braun is because of Roman.


In the beginning this was true. A lot of fans were clearly hopping on Braun's bandwagon due to their hatred of Roman. However, Braun kept them on board because he's fun to watch, plays his role well, and looks and acts believable. I'm not sure that he can be the box office draw that Lesnar has been. I have yet to see those numbers. Roman could have been, and might still could be, if WWE doesn't keep fucking up his booking.


No I don't like of Braun because of Roman, I missed all the feud between them, was after that when I started to see the guy and liked of him.
For the mic skill, the guy doesn't need to deliver a 15 min promo every week, but if he goes out and pick up the mic and the only thing he doe is scream and still being awesome then is good he did his job very well, not the best at it but I am entertained, if he is boring he sucks, simple. Don't get me wrong but if his character needs to talk and the guy is boring at it then that is a weak mic skill and clearly doesn't deserve a high spot, money is a consequence of everything the guy has been doing in the company.
Lesnar has Heyman doing all of his promos, fuck the laws.
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OK. I saw it again, so I gotta speak. WCW 2000 and beyond (Bar a couple months in 2001) was beyond lackluster. It is easy to cherrypick these days with the network, but growing up, if you watched Nitro and Thunder(basically WCW Saturday Night Pt. 2) week by week you would never say this. trying to call that good is like shitting on a sidewalk and appreciating the fact that flies haven't circled. Also, Mark Madden.
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Roman is great, like him or not. He's been apart of some great matches and moments the past two years. And has the benefit of being in The Shield which worked on a multitude of levels. Do I think he has room to improve, yes. It is a good thing AJ Styles is on the other side of the coin picking up any slack. No doubt he is one of the top getting butts in the door. However I also agree with John Cena. Remember his promo? " If you were doing your job, I wouldn't have to come back". I think everyone would feel differently once Mania comes and goes, and we get an influx of fresh match ups.
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Roman did not make Braun. Two people are required to tango. The feud with Roman gave Braun the opportunity to be in the upper card and showcase himself. It is his quirks, his personality and his dedication to getting better that made him where he is now. Had Braun pulled a Giant Gonzalez, we would be singing a different tune. GET THESE HANDS
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Also, The Miz is for sure Top 20. He really has become an anomaly. Had he retired today, Mike Mizanin is a bonafide Hall of Famer. Digest That. And he is in his prime.
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http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0125/636315/charges-against-rich-swann-dismissed-today/

The charges against Rich Swann have been dropped. Get ready to dance, wrestling fans.
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OK. I saw it again, so I gotta speak. WCW 2000 and beyond (Bar a couple months in 2001) was beyond lackluster. It is easy to cherrypick these days with the network, but growing up, if you watched Nitro and Thunder(basically WCW Saturday Night Pt. 2) week by week you would never say this. trying to call that good is like shitting on a sidewalk and appreciating the fact that flies haven't circled. Also, Mark Madden.

I never said it was good in the traditional sense, but it is funny to laugh at how ridiculous it is. I enjoy bad wrestling like I like bad movies. I remember specifically one second Scott Steiner is fighting some guy in a pseudo MMA cage and they immediately cut outside to Rick Steiner and Tank Abbott brawling in the alleyway. Then out of nowhere the Goldberg monster truck crushes a car. None of it makes any sense and that's what makes it funny to me.

Russo got payed relative to the ratings. If the ratings went up, then he'd make more. That's why his car crash booking multiplied by a 100 and so many title changes would happen, because back then title changes = ratings almost always. Anyways, Johnny Ace tried his best to put a bandage on a gaping wound but it was too late by then. He was in charge towards the end which I found most people don't know for some reason. Russo was completely gone by late October/early November...too bad he had to put the belt on himself first...
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NXT Take Over: Philadelphia has been amazing.

The Extreme Rules Match between Aleister Black and Adam Cole just finished and was exceptional, I highly recommend watching it. One of the best ER matches I have seen in quite some time. Plus we get BLOOD.

Ricochet, War Machine and EC3 were shown ringside. Huge pops for them.

Edit: Show is over, that main event between Almas and Gargano was one of the best matches I have seen WWE produce in quite some time.
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What a night, if I can put NXT Take Over in just one word is phenomenal, both Adam Cole vs Aleister Black and Gargano vs Cien Almas were really amazing matches and the others matches of the card were very good too. Velveteen Dream is a guy I cheer to be well used when he goes up to the main roster, very talented.

Tomorrow the Royal Rumble is coming and I hope it finishes with me being as much satisfied as I did today.
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Wow, NXT Takeover....definitely good stuff. Adam Cole is amazing.

EC3 also spotted in the crowds. Safe to say the guy will returning to NXT soon under that name.
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I said it a lot last year and after tonight I still hold my belief: Andrade Cien Almas is the best heel in the bizz (NXT-wise at least). Even though his finisher kinda sucks ass, I love this man; he's like WWE's Tetsuya Naito ever since he turned heel. And his match with Gargano might be the best match from WWE this year.

And can't wait to see EC3's entrance with dozens of different facial expressions before he even reaches the ring. NXT alone rn is worth getting the Network
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Jan 28, 2018 6:15 AM

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Kenny got Cross Rhodes the FUCK OUT of Bullet Club!
Jan 28, 2018 7:48 AM

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Strange timing for Kenny to be kicked out of the Bullet Club.
Jan 28, 2018 9:21 AM
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Cody is reaching Joker levels



This whole angle was brilliant.

Jan 28, 2018 11:45 AM

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So, who will be the new Bullet Club leader? :o

Cody Rhodes?
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Yes! Golden Lovers are reunited at last! I'm ready to see some crazy shit

The greatest love story ever told!
Jan 28, 2018 11:58 AM

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OTP IS BACK! I never was so happy to see 2 men huggin each other. Their reconciliation was something good to see.

Maybe BC might splits in 3 now: Originals, Cody Club, The Elite. Marty didn't react good with the betrayal and the bucks may forgive kenny, was just a push, it's something that can be forgivable and I love them together.
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I just want to hear JR scream on commentary "Golden Shower! Golden Shower! Baw Gawd, It's a Golden Shower!"
Jan 28, 2018 2:10 PM

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Going to get some snacks.

Hope tonight will be a good Rumble.
Jan 28, 2018 4:24 PM

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Aj Styles sells the most beautiful Blue Thunder Bombs.
Jan 28, 2018 4:38 PM

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Aj Styles sells the most beautiful Blue Thunder Bombs.


Too bad Sami almost never pins anyone with the maneuver. The move is basically pointless.
Jan 28, 2018 4:55 PM

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Wow, Royal Rumble (Men's) match is up so early. I would of thought it'd be at least the second to last match or main event.
Jan 28, 2018 5:00 PM

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Man...I know how it's going to go...but I'd mark out so hard if Rusev won.
Jan 28, 2018 5:30 PM
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What in the fuck is Seth wearing!? Please win Finn Please
Jan 28, 2018 5:31 PM

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Jan 28, 2018 5:31 PM
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Kofi stay being amazing
Jan 28, 2018 5:39 PM
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ADAM COLE BAYBEY!!!
Jan 28, 2018 5:44 PM

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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT


LMAO PHILLY STILL HATES REIGNS LOLOLOL
Jan 28, 2018 5:45 PM
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He's Back...oh shit it's Roman

LET"S FUCKING GO ROMAN!!
Jan 28, 2018 5:48 PM
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Brothers will be brothers
Jan 28, 2018 5:51 PM

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What a waste of a slot...really?
Jan 28, 2018 5:54 PM

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Dolph Ziggler at #30 is so underwhelming.
Jan 28, 2018 5:54 PM

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Philly is the same crowd that once gave Roman Reigns a standing ovation when he won the WWE championship from Sheamus.
Jan 28, 2018 6:02 PM

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RIP Cena. Nakamura and Reigns now!
Jan 28, 2018 6:06 PM

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I'm ready for Nakamura vs Styles...so ready.
Jan 28, 2018 6:07 PM

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YES SHINSUKE NAKAMURA

Shinsuke vs AJ Wrestlemania!
Jan 28, 2018 6:10 PM

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A lot of people had Roman pegged to win, but when they made it "Champion of their choice" it became obvious they had other plans. They're still going to put the Universal title on him but this way we get our dream match. I just wish they had let Rusev last longer.
Jan 28, 2018 6:10 PM

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THANK YOU WWE One of the best rumbles ever
Jan 28, 2018 6:12 PM

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So Nakamura vs most likely AJ Styles at Wrestlemania? No complaints here.
Jan 28, 2018 6:17 PM
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Nakamura actually won, jesus fuck me im enjoyed

Jan 28, 2018 6:20 PM

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Best RR match in the past...5 years.
Jan 28, 2018 6:25 PM

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"There's no tag teams ever in tag team wrestling, Booker."

Ross is gonna get you for that one, Corey.
Jan 28, 2018 6:25 PM
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That was the best rumble i've seen in years.
Jan 28, 2018 6:31 PM

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I guess now fans have no right to complain about predictability when Roman faces Lesnar at Mania. They chanted "AJ Styles!" when it was asked whom Nakamura should fight.
Jan 28, 2018 6:35 PM

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I still remember a match where one AJ Styles called a certain man "the future." I haven't been disappointed by Rollins yet. I want to see them go again.
Jan 28, 2018 6:37 PM

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I would love to see Trish Stratus vs Asuka at Mania. That's one of the last few legitimate dream matches left. Since Trish vs Manami Toyota is never going to happen.
Jan 28, 2018 6:41 PM

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Thank god Nakamura got the win over Reigns.
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Jan 28, 2018 6:44 PM

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Braun just did a drop kick...
Jan 28, 2018 6:55 PM

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Predictable as hell.

Kane eats the pin.
Jan 28, 2018 6:56 PM

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Yeah but you know what...I still liked it.
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