Which Battle Shounen is a masterpiece?
One Piece
18.9%
144
Naruto (Shippuden included)
11.4%
87
Bleach
2.8%
21
Fairy Tail
3.4%
26
Katekyo Hitman Reborn
1.1%
8
Hunter x Hunter 2011
30.3%
230
Dragon Ball Z
8.0%
61
Hokuto no Ken
1.2%
9
Yu Yu Hakusho
6.4%
49
None
16.4%
125
760 votes
Higashi_no_Kaze said: HxH & FMA are the only ones worthy. And JoJo. And I wonder if we could count SnK in this? |
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judals said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: HxH & FMA are the only ones worthy. And JoJo. And I wonder if we could count SnK in this? Can these be considered battle shounen? |
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| They got superpowers, people biting their hands luffy/naruto style for "large" effect. And they got battles. And shonen. |
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| I think the point of the thread is to contemplate which is the best long running one though.. |
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| Other : Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. |
| Kenshin is the closest to a masterpiece for me. It's not quite up there, though. Every other shounen is way too childish in some way for me to consider them masterpieces. I haven't seen HxH though. |
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| Hunter x Hunter and One Piece if it keeps getting better. Bleach and Fairy Tail aren't even close and I can't say anything about the others. |
IKKIsama said: Less than 100 episodes = Not worthy.Other : Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. |
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judals said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: HxH & FMA are the only ones worthy. And JoJo. And I wonder if we could count SnK in this? We can include Jojo, fair enough. SnK wasn't good enough though, imo. |
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Forgetfulness said: No love for Reborn!? :c Come on, even Fairy Tail and Bleach have at least 3 votes :/ How about we vote for it? But you first. :) Higashi_no_Kaze said: SnK wasn't good enough though, imo. Indeed, imo. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: judals said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: HxH & FMA are the only ones worthy. And JoJo. And I wonder if we could count SnK in this? We can include Jojo, fair enough. SnK wasn't good enough though, imo. It's still got some time to show itself but for now, I agree. Despite that I'm still a fan. |
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| DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho. |
| I'll say hxh and yu yu hackushoo. Where the fuck is attack on titan? Its doesn't drag out its fight like other shonens. 1 episode a fight and that's it.full metal alchemist and ruroni kenshin should be on the list. The op is on crack. reborn doesn't even have a vote lol fail... |
keragamming said: Its doesn't drag out its fight like other shonens. that's cute |
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| HxH perfect story,no bullshit romance, logical fights, no useless filler/fanservice characters, people actually are able to die,the godly animation of madhouse and the best "super power" system i have ever seen in a shonen to date. |
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| Absolutely Yu Yu Hakusho |
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| I just realized something, is Fist of the North Star even shonen? I think its miss labeled on MAL. Its rated R-17+ for gosh sakes, and not only that, if the tone is anything like the Movie that doesn't match Shonen either. |
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Thund3r1 said: It was published in Shonen Jump so it's a shounen.I just realized something, is Fist of the North Star even shonen? I think its miss labeled on MAL. Its rated R-17+ for gosh sakes, and not only that, if the tone is anything like the Movie that doesn't match Shonen either. |
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| From the poll options: One Piece. tsudecimo said: Kitsu-nee said: For anime I'll go with Naruto, it may be getting worse, but still is enjoyable, got used to it and it's plotholes after so many years of watching it, I guess. What plot holes? I'll give you two: |
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| I don't really think so. The only one that could be considered this is Dragon Ball Z. Though the selling factor was that it was testosterone filled, even the dubs theme song was just to make 12 year olds excited. |
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BatoKusanagi said: tsudecimo said: Kitsu-nee said: For anime I'll go with Naruto, it may be getting worse, but still is enjoyable, got used to it and it's plotholes after so many years of watching it, I guess. What plot holes? I'll give you two: What? |
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IntroverTurtle said: Thund3r1 said: It was published in Shonen Jump so it's a shounen.I just realized something, is Fist of the North Star even shonen? I think its miss labeled on MAL. Its rated R-17+ for gosh sakes, and not only that, if the tone is anything like the Movie that doesn't match Shonen either. Wow, I forgot that the Japanese have no problem including an unlimited level of violence in anime targeted for tweens and teens. |
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| From the ones in the poll Hunter x Hunter |
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| I think if you want to judge a show with some degree of objectivity its important to take into consideration that we are talking about shonen here. "A Tale of Two Cities" is considered a masterpiece and so is "The Lorax" but it wouldn't be fair or make sense to judge "The Lorax" and "A Tale of Two Cities" by the same standards. That being said, I think the ultimate downfall of battle shonen anime is the length. It seems like even series that start out really good start to fall apart due to an over abundance of filler, slow pacing, or the author running out of ideas, or the show becoming too repetitive. The anime I consider to be Masterpieces are usually under 100 episodes. I have yet to see an anime series that beats this curse/ challenge. Actually, the more I think about it maybe DBZ is a masterpiece? At least for its time, maybe it was super ground breaking. I mean a lot of us now consider it pretty trite simple and overly repetitive, but maybe its because its been copied off of so much since it came out (I'm lookin at you Yu Yu Hakusho!). I'd like to hear what people think about this, I don't think seen an anime series older than DBZ. |
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Cresherhsm said: Hunter x Hunter (2011) followed by FMAB followed by JJBA. And how are the last two not in the poll? People, read the first post! the person who started the thread specified that he's talking about long running series. I really don't think you can call any show less than 100 episodes "long running" |
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| i like dragonball over Z any day... but to say it's a masterpiece? not realy, no... as for bleach and naruto the story is realy draggin on (more so in bleach) DBZ just dragged on the episodes (5 minuits in the anime took 3 seasons or something) i kind of grew out of the constant find stronger opponent and get stronger yourself, find stronger opponent, ... where the hell where those strong opponents at the start? :D |
Thund3r1 said: I think if you want to judge a show with some degree of objectivity its important to take into consideration that we are talking about shonen here. "A Tale of Two Cities" is considered a masterpiece and so is "The Lorax" but it wouldn't be fair or make sense to judge "The Lorax" and "A Tale of Two Cities" by the same standards. That being said, I think the ultimate downfall of battle shonen anime is the length. It seems like even series that start out really good start to fall apart due to an over abundance of filler, slow pacing, or the author running out of ideas, or the show becoming too repetitive. The anime I consider to be Masterpieces are usually under 100 episodes. I have yet to see an anime series that beats this curse/ challenge. Actually, the more I think about it maybe DBZ is a masterpiece? At least for its time, maybe it was super ground breaking. I mean a lot of us now consider it pretty trite simple and overly repetitive, but maybe its because its been copied off of so much since it came out (I'm lookin at you Yu Yu Hakusho!). I'd like to hear what people think about this, I don't think seen an anime series older than DBZ. It's a mixed bag for me.. I think DBZ Kai is better but I felt some of the fillers added to the story I the original.. You're right most shonens get repetitive after awhile.. To me the Frieza(Namek) Saga was just great all around it should've ended there.. But he made the Android/Cell Saga which some say was better and that could've been a good ending but Toriyama pushed himself and made the Buu Saga and it ended up bad.. It had potential but it wasn't well executed and it was messy.. A lot of anime gets inspired from the series.. But in terms of repetiveness Hunter x Hunter has rarely shown that and that's takes a lot of talent to do that.. Same with FMA... I could call the DB series a masterpiece but I think Hunter x Hunter and FMA are the pinnacle of shonen |
kickthebucket said: i like dragonball over Z any day... but to say it's a masterpiece? not realy, no... as for bleach and naruto the story is realy draggin on (more so in bleach) DBZ just dragged on the episodes (5 minuits in the anime took 3 seasons or something) i kind of grew out of the constant find stronger opponent and get stronger yourself, find stronger opponent, ... where the hell where those strong opponents at the start? :D I'm not catching what you're getting at.. Everyone knows where Frieza/Vegeta/Cell came from as it was explained Buu on the other hand just seemed to pop out of nowhere |
| i only saw 66 episodes of yu yu hakusho sofar but the dark tournament arc was simply fantastic and it wipes it ass with battle shounen like naruto,bleach,fairy tail and probably the others that i didnt see/had no interest to see. hunter x hunter 2011 is excluded since that shit is on a whole different level. so my vote goes to HxH + YYH because they come closest to being a masterpiece sofar. |
KerozinnFeb 18, 2014 7:39 PM
TheGrandSage23 said: Buu was sealed away years ago before Frieza by the East Supreme Kai.kickthebucket said: i like dragonball over Z any day... but to say it's a masterpiece? not realy, no... as for bleach and naruto the story is realy draggin on (more so in bleach) DBZ just dragged on the episodes (5 minuits in the anime took 3 seasons or something) i kind of grew out of the constant find stronger opponent and get stronger yourself, find stronger opponent, ... where the hell where those strong opponents at the start? :D I'm not catching what you're getting at.. Everyone knows where Frieza/Vegeta/Cell came from as it was explained Buu on the other hand just seemed to pop out of nowhere |
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Aylaine said: Despite all it's faults, I consider DBZ to be a masterpiece. I can re-watch the fights as many times as I want, only to be satisfied that they still deliver. I can rewatch DBZ as many times as I want to, and not get bored. Edit: Naruto took the lead and KHR still remains with no vote. ~.~ |
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| Only One Piece gets close to it, and it's still not a masterpiece. |
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| alot of us are saying HxH (my vote as well) its been so fantastic i'm scared it will fall off and suffer the same fate as (sometimes good, often bad) Naruto. i am fucking cheering for this series and i hope it doesn't disappoint! |
| It's either HxH, Fist of the North Star, Dragon Ball Z, or Yu Yu Hakusho. |
parfaited said: Hi, I would like to change my vote to Reborn just so that it won't be at 0. Me too.. |
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| None. Battle shonen in the end is just a cheap imitation of super hero comic books. Batman: The animated series tools all these cheap knockoffs. Comic books vs the mangas is just an even worse stomp. Allen Moore >anything & everything every Japanese shonen mangaka has or could ever write. |
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| I gave KHR my vote, it was depressing seeing it not have any votes (And it's the only manga on this poll that I have completed, although the ending is disappointing). But if you had to ask me which one I think is a masterpiece, I can't really decide since a lot of these series haven't finished yet, so none for me at the moment. Also since you are looking for long-running battle shounen (At least 100 episodes), how about adding Inyuasha, Zatch Bell, D-Grayman, Saint Seya, or MÄR (I bet a lot of you don't know what the hell this is) to the list. |
| In opinion, 2: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Kurokami Most battle shounen are lacking some of criteria for 10 however, and thus I can't rate them as such. |
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StefanHere said: HxH perfect story,no bullshit romance, logical fights, no useless filler/fanservice characters, people actually are able to die,the godly animation of madhouse and the best "super power" system i have ever seen in a shonen to date. And they still have better romance than most anime still |
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