Morridine said:EmeralDragon23 said:Morridine said:EmeralDragon23 said:KingCez said:
goddamn that was some terroristic shit those rats pulled. this ep was so fucking win
that covered dude is completely fucking boss status. 4 eyes and a 12 pack of whoopass
cant wait to see if maria and mamoru are alive
I very much doubt they are.
1. Whoever killed the Giant Hornets was a Cantus user
2. Saki and Shun said Maria would bring about many deaths
3. The bones Yakomaru gave Tomiko were in fact Maria and Mamoru
4. Maria wanted to have kids
The show practically spelled out for us. Yakomaru helped Maria and Mamoru until they had a kid and then killed them both. Now he's raised the child as a queerat weapon and is using it to wipe out the Giant Hornets and humans.
I might be wrong, but the show seems to be blatantly saying this.
If Yakomaru ...
Quite easily. Report Maria and Mamoru as missing, then later show up with the bones. I admit there's a bit of a time gap due to the pregnancy, but it's not impossible to explain it.
And Saki was fourteen when Shun died and Mamoru ran away. She was a little girl when she awakened her Cantus.
Teaching him/her Cantus is another valid point on your part, but if Satoru's original theory is right, it's possible than Cantus knowledge and instructions were stored in a False Minoshiro. And a kid being born away from the village would mean that no limiters were placed on it, so its Cantus would be vastly more powerful than Saki and Satoru's at that age and Satoru was wiping out queerat colonies.
Like I said, I'm just guessing at the what the show seems to be saying. DNA tests confirmed by Tomiko herself to state that Maria and Mamoru are dead, Maria's desire to have children right after it being revealed that a mysterious user of Cantus is aiding queerats, a timeskip that would cause a child to be around the age Saki awakened her Cantus and the warning that allowing Maria to escape would lead to a large amount of deaths. After all, Saki never said Maria would kill a lot of people, but that if she hadn't been born, people wouldn't have died.
It all fits, at least to me.
In fact it does fit with everything that has been shown untill now. And all the hints. And that creepy hello too... I mean i didn't get the feeling that it was coming from any old character. But what we don't know and haven't been hinted at worries me. Like I said, if that kid is 11 year old.... kind of meh. And as I said, to me the fact that Maria and Mamoru died (considering they did) seems a bit forced out. I mean I cannot think for any plausible reason for them to die. They were strong enough to run, resourceful enough to get their traces covered... and yet they die just like that. Only the rats knew they were alive, you have to admit that the rats couldn't possibly kill them THEN.
Yea, I remember couple epis ago Saki saying how easily they got played by the cunning rats. But apart from some lies and tricks they weren't able to kill them.
So then, as a little conspiracy theory, maybe someone in the village did know about the two being alive and plotted something to secretly kill them. But why? Or maybe someone from inside wants the village to fall? Again the only logical possibility would be that the rats , who started to imitate ancient human society for a while, needed someone with cantus on their side in order to attack humans and the plotted against the two because they wanted to raise their kid as one of them. But again i get to the same question: how could the rats possibly kill them if they didn't really have any special traits on their side.
I don't doubt that the rats could kill them. Mamoru is easily scared, and Maria could have been fooled when attempting to play comforting mother to Mamoru. Besides, Saki only later realized the lies they were being told and tricks they were being put through. Each time one of those were played out on them, she didn't realize- only after she had a while to examine what happened was she able to put two and two together. However, there's also that woman who was on the committee who stated that perhaps the summer festival should be postponed. Maybe she, being the most cautious one as Tomiko-san said herself, had something to do with it? Also, didn't she die this episode?