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Sep 7, 2019 4:42 AM

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i just gonna quote my post from neighbor discussion
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many cheesy and shallow writing.
the detail is bad and direcing / storyboard are a little bit messy.


also the arthur thing in the epilogue is a 'zoro meme' or serious thing? i cant even tell

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Sep 7, 2019 5:56 AM

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Just why, why they should insert this unnecessary fanservice. Other than that the fight scene was still awesome, Shinra's moves was really great and fun to watch. Well Rekka's reason for creating infernals was unexpected or should I say Evangelist's objective, never thought that they will create a second Sun using the Earth. Karim at the same time still has this amazing ice power and also powerful. I assume that the sniper who shot Rekka is Evangelist's subordonates, they want to silenced Rekka. Pretty much ther objective now is to find The Evangelist.
Sep 7, 2019 6:39 AM

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I thought Shinra's moves are best outdoors, never thought of using it that way
Sep 7, 2019 6:45 AM
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katsu044 said:
is that shit legit with Hiro , listen to you're buddy that's written one of the trashy'er shounens it'd make it better and be taken more seriously...

it just made me feel stupid after last week with how serious this was and the out of place fanservice taking me out ended up doing ,look there's a time and a place for it in the middle of a fight was not it fam


shame because as of now tamaki is the Lucy of fire force where her only purpose so far has been the source of "accidental" gropings and boob falls aka ecchi levels of fanservice
was pumped when i saw her character but shes just been the "weak female support eye candy".

i really wanna like fire force and it's strongest suit is the animation/action and has a interesting premise and it's finally starting to get its feet off the ground but every week i have to convince myself into thinking i'm watching something good while the back of my head it's actually this shit is kinda wack but damn does it look nice.

praying it gets better while all that is said episode wasn't bad just couldn't been way stronger due to these silly events and why is Arthur a jedi



You do know the dude that does this did soul eater too and that has fanservice. The Stuido just toned it down
Sep 7, 2019 6:52 AM
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Rider9530 said:
Hatsuyuki said:


Well at this point I've made peace with the idea that fan service is going to happen whenever she appears on the screen. Either way I am fine with fan service as long as it's not oddly placed within the episode, which is almost always the case for Fire Force.

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Prove it . The author that does the manga for this also did soul eater and that has fanservice .
Sep 7, 2019 7:04 AM

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Mattinator95 said:
Rider9530 said:

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Prove it . The author that does the manga for this also did soul eater and that has fanservice .

I know he wrote soul eater and i also thought that it doesn't make sense but i read it on an article a long time ago and i didn't save the article so im not going to look for it.
I don't really care if the article was true or just a lie, i just said that this is what i read on it.
Sep 7, 2019 7:30 AM
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anikevin said:
When did Arthur become Anakin Skywalker? lmao



he dislikes sand ????
Sep 7, 2019 7:35 AM
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sockerdricka said:
Hatsuyuki said:


Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?


Sure you're free to blame him, or whoever you want for that matter.
You're also free to blame the anime fanbase. It's not up to the creators what sells well, it's up to the consumers
All the creator's try to (or are presuaded to or forced to try to) make works that sell.

Sex sells. Fanservice sells. Awkward, disrupting, misplaced fanservice.. ? No idea.

Anyway it's not all on the author. Blame anime fandom.



blame the stuido and the staff as well they could easily have removed the fan service or toned it down by removing the fan-service mid battle , soul eater has fan service but the anime is toned down
Sep 7, 2019 8:09 AM

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Shinra's fight in this episode was amazing and I love Tamaki :))))
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Sep 7, 2019 8:22 AM

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Tamaki > MAki >>>>>>>>>>>> Iris

I'm surprised that Iris has more favorites than other two girls. She looks less attractive than other girls, and her personality is so boring.
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Sep 7, 2019 8:26 AM
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I can't help but feel that a lot of the impact that was built up from the last episode was lost due to the amount of Tamaki fan-service involved. Every few seconds of the fight was offset by one of these moments which kind of dulled the importance of it all.

I really hope going forward they are more sparing with these moments in sections that are supposed to be serious as currently it is hurting my enjoyment of this show.

Outside of these bits, the episode was good and the animation during a lot of the fight was fantastic. I really like Karim's ability to convert fire to ice and hope they show more of him!
Sep 7, 2019 9:57 AM

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Some sort of rewind of the last episode at the start but... eh, whatever.
The fight between MC and Rekka was entertainung and well done animation-wise.
Except for Tamaki.

I know she has this purpose of providing fanservice but to break up the fight for it seemed out of place.
Also I was sort of expecting to join in the fight, because I really want to see what powers she has.
Of course she didn't. Just provided more fanservice and sat around. Hell, she did not even run away with the kids or something. No, she has to stand there and encourage the MC and get most of her clothes burned to ashes. ._.

And Karim saves the day. Whoop whoop.
Okay, so Rekka was in a cult whose goal it was to turn the earth into a sun?
Well, that needs to be explored. And MCs brother is alive. Probably. But in the fangs of that cult.
Rest in Peace, Rekka. I really liked you.

Damn, those fire bow and arrow look really cool. And lethal.
It's nice to see the firesoldiers working as a team and yay, Tamaki finally does something!
Karim will now support the 8th. That's great if that means we get to see him more often.

Back at the 8th, nothing has changed.
My two favorite charcters from this show are still around, being awesome.
Iris is there, Obi too. Where the f is Arthur?
And Maki has now joined the 8th and the harem aswell.

I dunno what to do with this show apart from hoping it will get better in the future. Right now I'd file it under just passable enough to continue watching.
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Sep 7, 2019 10:56 AM

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Tamaki is so dirty I love her

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Sep 7, 2019 11:48 AM
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Tamaki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi, that's all I need.


That's all WE need. AMEN.
Sep 7, 2019 12:03 PM
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This was a good episode but the fight scene was more amusing than serious. The scenes with Tamaki and Shinra are kinda annoying, imo. I'm not into the whole fan service thing but it would be nice if the fan service wasn't in the middle of the fight. Wonder if Arthur actually got lost. Also, I can't wait to see Shinra's brother.

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Sep 7, 2019 12:26 PM

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This fight was so crazy, that's what this anime needed, more action. The fanservice didn't really bothered me it was a comic relief for what was coming, I'm not that invested into the characters so I don't care If they cut the drama for some fan service. Overall I loved this episode, the characters are terrible but If they keep compensating it with a more deep story and more action I'll start to really like this anime
Sep 7, 2019 12:33 PM

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amagirinomikoto said:
what an idiotic episode

putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode

i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself


Agreed, Maybe some of it served as a comic relief, like, when he lands on her chest and accidentally takes the skirt, okay, that's fine, even made me laugh a bit, but then her being almost naked because of the attack and the MC repeating the same "land on her" joke was too much, they sure know how to kill a joke (wich wasn't really a good one from the begginig).

And yeah, her character is pointless, there are too many characters in this anime and a lot of them are pointless, I wish we had less characters but they focused more on developing them instead of using them for cheap laughs
Sep 7, 2019 12:46 PM

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Quinjao said:
amagirinomikoto said:
what an idiotic episode

putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode

i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself


Agreed, Maybe some of it served as a comic relief, like, when he lands on her chest and accidentally takes the skirt, okay, that's fine, even made me laugh a bit, but then her being almost naked because of the attack and the MC repeating the same "land on her" joke was too much, they sure know how to kill a joke (wich wasn't really a good one from the begginig).

And yeah, her character is pointless, there are too many characters in this anime and a lot of them are pointless, I wish we had less characters but they focused more on developing them instead of using them for cheap laughs


i definitely see where you're coming from about that being a comic relief - i didn't even think of it that way. personally, i just found it too cringey and ill-timed to even be just a bit funny. yeah honestly same, when tamaki was basically half naked because the fire was burning through her clothes that just really didn't make sense. and then yep they repeated the same joke yet again where shinra just falls into her. it really does get tiring

honestly i'm kinda sad that her character is pointless. i think she could be a really cool character but she serves no purpose. i don't want tamaki turning into the "useless female" character. also yes that would be so much better if the characters could actually have development and be useful/stand out

the comedy falls flat most of the time (in my opinion) and i don't even remember half of the characters names either because i feel like they haven't even done anything
 



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Sep 7, 2019 1:31 PM

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Yautja said:
I'm just trying imagine how sadistically Stain would kill Shinra considering how hollow his idea of a hero is and how often and how he screams about heroes. I can only imagine how much Stain would loathe him.
I don't actually think he would have an issue with Shinra. I mean if being over the top and passionate was a deciding factor he wouldn't use All Might as his basis for what a true hero is. Shinra may be loud but he is very sincere, he doesn't want to be a hero for the wrong reasons, he's not in it for fame or for wealth, he simply wants to help people. Because his beliefs and reason for wanting to be a Hero is sincere it falls in line with Stain's ideology as well. Essentially Stain despises people that call themselves hero's for personal gain.
Sep 7, 2019 2:03 PM

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I thought this episode was amazing! The combat scenes were awesome; the animation is so cool, especially the animation of Shinra in these scenes. The fanservice was really unnecessary though and kinda stunted the momentum of the fighting but it wasn't so awful that it ruined the scenes so whatever!

We finally know what happened to Shinra's brother and Division 8 have gained another valuable ally. I'm really looking forward to the next episode
Sep 7, 2019 2:04 PM
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amagirinomikoto said:
Quinjao said:


Agreed, Maybe some of it served as a comic relief, like, when he lands on her chest and accidentally takes the skirt, okay, that's fine, even made me laugh a bit, but then her being almost naked because of the attack and the MC repeating the same "land on her" joke was too much, they sure know how to kill a joke (wich wasn't really a good one from the begginig).

And yeah, her character is pointless, there are too many characters in this anime and a lot of them are pointless, I wish we had less characters but they focused more on developing them instead of using them for cheap laughs


i definitely see where you're coming from about that being a comic relief - i didn't even think of it that way. personally, i just found it too cringey and ill-timed to even be just a bit funny. yeah honestly same, when tamaki was basically half naked because the fire was burning through her clothes that just really didn't make sense. and then yep they repeated the same joke yet again where shinra just falls into her. it really does get tiring

honestly i'm kinda sad that her character is pointless. i think she could be a really cool character but she serves no purpose. i don't want tamaki turning into the "useless female" character. also yes that would be so much better if the characters could actually have development and be useful/stand out

the comedy falls flat most of the time (in my opinion) and i don't even remember half of the characters names either because i feel like they haven't even done anything


She is a character created for the purpose of using her syndrome, as a mean to
combine fanservice and comedic relief, through fanservice.

Some they like it and some they don't, it makes sense as there is no story or anything, that can be considered as perfect, there will always be someone who disagrees with something
as what is good or trash is normally a matter of perspective.

Raw honest when rekka punched shinra and the force send shinra to tamaki's boobs that worked as airbags and stopped from going any farther for me at least i found it
quite funny i may didn't died from laughs as i am a manga reader of this anime so i already saw this scene but at least it made me smile lol
but i found the next scene after this the one where rekka shows off his firepower and burns tamaki's clothes in the process a bit too much for my tastes of fanservice that scene could had been avoided.

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Glad they were able to stop Rekka before he burned up Tamaki and all those children The worship of the flames feels like an extension of Sol worship Turning the earth into a second sun is whacko
Sep 7, 2019 2:40 PM

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Arthur got lost, now he feels like zoro. But the animation was amazing during the fight.
Sep 7, 2019 2:55 PM
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Much better than last week, great fight scenes and more explanations on the overall plot without the poorly done drama. Liked the fan service even though it was a little forced, but I guess that is just a part of Tamaki's character, man was that hot though... Hopefully she gets good moments to shine later on, I would hate it if she stays on the same weak fan service character role the entire series.

Looks like there is more focus on Arthur coming next week, would be nice to start seeing more of the other characters from the 8th division as well.
tamaki will get more cool and good moments don't worry but the bad thing is that it'll take a while
Sep 7, 2019 3:02 PM

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Shadow_Strider said:
Yautja said:
I'm just trying imagine how sadistically Stain would kill Shinra considering how hollow his idea of a hero is and how often and how he screams about heroes. I can only imagine how much Stain would loathe him.
I don't actually think he would have an issue with Shinra. I mean if being over the top and passionate was a deciding factor he wouldn't use All Might as his basis for what a true hero is. Shinra may be loud but he is very sincere, he doesn't want to be a hero for the wrong reasons, he's not in it for fame or for wealth, he simply wants to help people. Because his beliefs and reason for wanting to be a Hero is sincere it falls in line with Stain's ideology as well. Essentially Stain despises people that call themselves hero's for personal gain.


I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes.
Sep 7, 2019 3:44 PM

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A decent episode, in comparison to what's come before it.

However, the OTT fan-service really is a turn-off. I don't mind it being used sparingly during a quieter, more exposition-heaving episode to break up any monotony, but it completely ruins any tension created when serious action is taking place.

Having not read the manga, I've got no basis for comparison, but could any manga reader enlighten me as to whether this a faithful adaptation, or have the studio been under-par in their delivery this season?
Sep 7, 2019 3:48 PM
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Good fight choreography and animation, more unnecessary ecchi and comedy out of the question, I really didn't like that part. for me it spoiled the episode which in my view was to be tense. Well I'm not complaining about the ecchi or the comedy, just try to put where it fits, not in the middle of a fight, it was annoying already, even seriously.
Sep 7, 2019 4:08 PM
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Hatsuyuki said:
Oh would you look at that. The stupid, useless character whose sole purpose in the show is to be a tool for fanservice is being used for fanservice even during fight scenes, leading to anticlimactic disruptions of the fight

https://i.imgur.com/MLX23BS.png
https://i.imgur.com/DK6nAT1.png
https://i.imgur.com/3H0lUGN.png


Wow, you managed to put into words exactly how I felt during this episode. I'm trying really hard to like Tamaki because her powers are cool and I bet she'd be super cool later on (I'm not reading the manga so idk) but so far her only actual character trait is that she's a source of constant fanservice. I don't mind fanservice in anime at all, until it gets in the way of good scenes.
Sep 7, 2019 4:13 PM

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Lindsey_Joy57 said:
Hatsuyuki said:
Oh would you look at that. The stupid, useless character whose sole purpose in the show is to be a tool for fanservice is being used for fanservice even during fight scenes, leading to anticlimactic disruptions of the fight

https://i.imgur.com/MLX23BS.png
https://i.imgur.com/DK6nAT1.png
https://i.imgur.com/3H0lUGN.png


Wow, you managed to put into words exactly how I felt during this episode. I'm trying really hard to like Tamaki because her powers are cool and I bet she'd be super cool later on (I'm not reading the manga so idk) but so far her only actual character trait is that she's a source of constant fanservice. I don't mind fanservice in anime at all, until it gets in the way of good scenes.


I feel that too. I was interested in Tamaki since I saw her in the opening and even more since she first appeared, but that "lucky-pervert" thing is so weird and forced that it's making me hard to like her, even though I really want to
Sep 7, 2019 4:31 PM
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Really good episode. For some reason I wished Tamaki would have entered the fray in the fight, but I guess maybe mentally she wasn't up for it. Liked the whole sniper ability. Makes me more curious on what other fire abilities are out there
Sep 7, 2019 4:50 PM

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DedPanda said:
Tamaki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi, that's all I need.


That's all WE need. AMEN.


You mean Latom instead ;)
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Yautja said:
Shadow_Strider said:
I don't actually think he would have an issue with Shinra. I mean if being over the top and passionate was a deciding factor he wouldn't use All Might as his basis for what a true hero is. Shinra may be loud but he is very sincere, he doesn't want to be a hero for the wrong reasons, he's not in it for fame or for wealth, he simply wants to help people. Because his beliefs and reason for wanting to be a Hero is sincere it falls in line with Stain's ideology as well. Essentially Stain despises people that call themselves hero's for personal gain.


I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes.


Care to explain? (Or link to one of those posts) From what I've seen Shinra is very sincere, his answer to Juggernaut last episode is good proof of that "no need to have big motivation, as long as you save people that's fine".


Anyways, I think it's the last time Tamaki's fanservice is used with mood whiplash that jarring. Well... except maybe for that one infamous fight (you know the one) depending if you consider it serious or not at all.

Disappointed they left the part after Rekka's death with the other companies. Well, maybe next episode.
Sep 7, 2019 5:11 PM
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Goddamit Arthur how da faq did u get lost?!?

Anyways, great episode overall. Fight was badass, but now wdk who killed Rekka. Also a nice amount of fanservice from Takami if I do say so myself.

End credits was funny too with him trying to get her number, but for the wrong reasons lol. Their faces when Shinra asked though were funny
Sep 7, 2019 6:26 PM

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-For some reason, I thought the blow from the last episode would have been enough to kill him.
-What a great fight. Easily the best one yet. The action, the sound effects, the everything. My only problem was that FS interruption.
-I really liked seeing more of Rekka's ability.
-I was very surprised when Rekka died. I was even more surprised when that fox-faced guy lost an arm.
-I felt bad for the 2 Lieutenants. It's got to be really hard on them.
Overall, this might have been the best episode yet. I really hope this ends up being one of those shows that only had a weak start. I hope the writing stays consistently good as it has been in the last 2 episodes. I may end up liking this show after all. My only problem with this episode is that the villain's motives seem so, so damn stupid, and if their true motive really is that stupid, it'll definitely affect the rest of the show.

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Rider9530 said:

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?


>Either way I am fine with fan service as long as it's not oddly placed within the episode, which is almost always the case for Fire Force.
This. Fan Service is going to happen in anime. To me, it's no big deal, but when it interrupts a good fight, it becomes a problem.
>Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?
I also agree with this. Passing the blame is annoying. The author wrote it in. It's his fault.

amagirinomikoto said:
what an idiotic episode

putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode

i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself


Actually, she did end up helping. She helped with that Lieutenant's plan.
But you make a decent point. Why is someone as useless as her a fire soldier anyway? Maybe she got in the Fire Force THAT way.

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So much whining every week...

Coincidentally, this post comes off as whiny.

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They really had to add that completely unnecessary fanservice in the middle of a serious fight, huh?

I like Tamaki. She's very cute and if her sole character is to be a damsel in distress who is the butt of fanservice jokes then so be it - I'm not really into it and I'd prefer it if her character was more fleshed out, but its not a deal breaker for me. I'll get over it and appreciate the love of my life, Maki instead. But to put it in the MIDDLE of a fight... dude, really? And the award for the dumbest way to completely break tension in a suspenseful fight goes to...

Glad to see Arthur's now a Jedi.

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WiselyKamelot said:
Yautja said:


I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes.


Care to explain? (Or link to one of those posts) From what I've seen Shinra is very sincere, his answer to Juggernaut last episode is good proof of that "no need to have big motivation, as long as you save people that's fine".


Anyways, I think it's the last time Tamaki's fanservice is used with mood whiplash that jarring. Well... except maybe for that one infamous fight (you know the one) depending if you consider it serious or not at all.

Disappointed they left the part after Rekka's death with the other companies. Well, maybe next episode.


For all his screaming about heroes he doesn't seem to have a cohesive definition of what a hero is or should be beyond the generics. He screams about being a hero simply because it sounds cool, he's mimicking a childhood borne idea and promise he made with his mom. Heroes don't really scream about being a hero to every person they meet. To me, as someone outside, it seems like those military chefs or reserve guys that go walking around in their camo trying to veteran discounts or whatever. Most guys that see battle don't do that kind of thing in the same way actual heroes don't scream about being a hero 24/7.

The other obvious comparison is Arthur. Arthur isn't a knight. He just says he's a knight, king of knights or whatever, with no real definition of it beyond "it's cool" or "to get girls" (I think one of them said something about girls, correct me if I'm wrong). Shinra is the same but hero is just a more broad and lazy term. Anyways, what really pushes me away from him calling himself a hero is that's he's trying so hard to define himself as a hero and nothing else. It just comes off vain and like a hero fantasy. Wanting to be a hero to simply be hero seems like the exact opposite of what a hero is.

It seems like most of them that I was thinking of came from the Ep.6 forum post. Though none of them were as good as I'd thought, just expressing similar complaints. I could probably do better if I rewatched the episodes where he's screaming about it, but fuck that.
Sep 7, 2019 7:11 PM

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-Stray said:
Finally a damn badass episode through and through! That fight was amazing! The fight animation in this series is really its main selling point. Shinra's strong af.
Feels like we almost got cloee to a bigger reveal, glad it didnt got revealed that fast.
That being said if I had something to complain about its the weird ass fanservice in the middle of that high tension fight, Im fine with fanservice, rather I love it but couldnt it have wait till after the fight lol.

That post credit scene! missed the fck out of Maki and Iris! WTF was Arthur doing? Looked like he was in his own chuuni imagination world again.

Overall solid ep at long last!


Lol your comment was shown in the new Mother's Basement video
Sep 7, 2019 8:55 PM
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Love the fight between shinra and rekka. And finally a plot. So the villains objective is to turn the world into a star.
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Alright let's have a look at that fight again:
[via Crunchyroll stream]
4:47 - 7:47
- Good fight for Shonen standards.
- We get to know more about Rekka.
- More about the strange bug Rekka uses.
7:50 - 8:04
Annnd here's the problem.
Very forced, Shinra is fighting a literal psychopath who literally killed a child last episode. Yet after all that's happened last episode, they try to squeeze in this bullshit. Honestly, maybe it would be better in more comedic or light hearted places such as District 8 Headquarters like seen previously in the past few episodes. However, adding it here just undermines the whole atmosphere of what the mangaka is trying to build.
- For 15 seconds, Rekka does nothing. This is a nitpick, so it's not huge.
8:17 - 8:39
Dear god, after only 15 seconds, more fanservice follows. Like honestly, this one goes for even longer. If not the first moment is anymore out of place, this one takes the cake. More of Rekka like: "I'll let them have their little moment".
8:40 - 8:55
Like, alright. I get the emotional situation that Tamaki went through before Shinra came. This scene would have been fine if NOT FOR THE POOR TRANSITION. Fanservice to an extremely emotional scene does not mix well at all. I'd honestly like to see Tamaki do more than rely on others and not be specifically for fanservice 90% of the time.
- Lmao Rekka just there like "You done?"

Summary:
- Poorly out of place fanservice ruins the fight buildup and tense atmosphere.
- Undermines Tamaki's emotional distress from the previous episode.
- Jumbles the pacing to multiple sluggish halts.
- Shit transitions.

I'm struggling to watch this anime. I might make a review once it's finished, so I'll cling onto it hopefully.

"Just drop the show if you don't like fanservice"
There's a difference between well placed fanservice, and obviously forced "relief" fanservice
ElucidSep 7, 2019 9:44 PM
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We now have a clue of the fire case that happened to Shinra in the past. Tamaki bursting in to tears hurts my kokoro
Sep 7, 2019 10:04 PM

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Ha Rekka actually said "Come at me bro!" in the dub. XD

Also I'm not sure why Tamaki couldn't help in the dub. Should have had her be visibly injured to justify her staying out of the fight.
I used to be a watchmaker.
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HueyLion said:
yvanedisco said:


That's all WE need. AMEN.


You mean Latom instead ;)


Yeah i forgot. LATOM.
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this episode was a funny cute and very cool fight scene sweet and oh that star dude wants to make the world into a fucking sun now that what I call a next level shit crazy overall 8/10 I can't wait for the next episode
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The whole episode is a banger! absolutely awesome!!!
the clashing! the intense fire sniping and especially Shinra can now fight toe-to-toe from someone that is squad 1 capable level!
5/5.


Sep 8, 2019 1:23 AM
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BlackstarFallen said:
The stupid fanservice is ruining the show. It needs to stop.
it's there for humor and in this instance for tonal levity, it's fine and isn't overly pornographic
Sep 8, 2019 1:30 AM
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amagirinomikoto said:
what an idiotic episode

putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode

i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself
the fanservice was there for like a 7 seconds while the fight prolonged for about 7 mins ,it getting in the way of the fight is hyperbole.the fanservice was done for tonal levity given the context of the scene is adequate as the scene lost its dire nature when shinra appeared and became more hopeful and heroic, it's also there for humor.

Yeah good thing she didn't do anything cause she couldn't her spirit was broken and she was vunerable that's why she wanted someone to help her, to go from that such a vunerable and broken state to being able to miraculously fight, is bs, rather have a weak fragile character with room to grow than a Mary Sue.
Sep 8, 2019 1:46 AM
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Elucid said:
Alright let's have a look at that fight again:
[via Crunchyroll stream]
4:47 - 7:47
- Good fight for Shonen standards.
- We get to know more about Rekka.
- More about the strange bug Rekka uses.
7:50 - 8:04
Annnd here's the problem.
Very forced, Shinra is fighting a literal psychopath who literally killed a child last episode. Yet after all that's happened last episode, they try to squeeze in this bullshit. Honestly, maybe it would be better in more comedic or light hearted places such as District 8 Headquarters like seen previously in the past few episodes. However, adding it here just undermines the whole atmosphere of what the mangaka is trying to build.
- For 15 seconds, Rekka does nothing. This is a nitpick, so it's not huge.
8:17 - 8:39
Dear god, after only 15 seconds, more fanservice follows. Like honestly, this one goes for even longer. If not the first moment is anymore out of place, this one takes the cake. More of Rekka like: "I'll let them have their little moment".
8:40 - 8:55
Like, alright. I get the emotional situation that Tamaki went through before Shinra came. This scene would have been fine if NOT FOR THE POOR TRANSITION. Fanservice to an extremely emotional scene does not mix well at all. I'd honestly like to see Tamaki do more than rely on others and not be specifically for fanservice 90% of the time.
- Lmao Rekka just there like "You done?"

Summary:
- Poorly out of place fanservice ruins the fight buildup and tense atmosphere.
- Undermines Tamaki's emotional distress from the previous episode.
- Jumbles the pacing to multiple sluggish halts.
- Shit transitions.

I'm struggling to watch this anime. I might make a review once it's finished, so I'll cling onto it hopefully.

"Just drop the show if you don't like fanservice"
There's a difference between well placed fanservice, and obviously forced "relief" fanservice
here's why it's not a problem.

Shinra is fully capable of handling the psychopath recca as shown by the fight, so the situation by the context of the narrative presented isn't dire and as such doesn't require a comparatively morbid and depressing tone. As for making it in district 8 I don't see the difference in how that would achieve a comedic and light-hearted tone overall this second part confuses me for what you mean.

This moment of fan service is brief so it's not forced and the fight proceeds immidiatly after , so the idea that recca was letting them have their moment for the sake of fanservice is an exaggeration.

It's not a poor transitions it's an understandable one given the context of the situation, she did go through an emotional experience yes, but once shinra showed up it transitions from her being emotional and vunerable to being hopeful and levied and adding the fanservice provides that tonal levity and light-hearted humor.And she does do more than rely on others it's in this situation she couldn't.

Saying this scene had a tense atmosphere is false, as the fight progressed there was never point where shinra emotional state during the fight was portrayed to be dire or his well being in danger ,from the get go of his appearance it had a heroic rescue vibe to it.

You're right there is a difference, and this is well placed fan service that isn't contextually forced nor detracts from the actual atmosphere of the scene. It was never tense and dire, it was hopeful and heroic and having fan service for tonal levity doesn't detract from that.
Sep 8, 2019 1:48 AM
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People complaining about the fan service either misinterpret the context of whats happening in the scene for the tone that it requires or what the scene to be done in a particular way i.e., complaining about not getting what they want.
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Cringe. Cringe. Cringe.

So much Cringe in one episode. Rekka’s Whole existence can be summed up in one word or less. There was a proper fight scene this time, which is a great progress from previous abruptly wrapped up ones but I really struggle to take any of this seriously. Tamaki reminds me of Hinamori Momo and it’s been a while I found a character’s mere presence so gyrating on my nerves. I am also seeing a lot of similarities with other popular animes, which is a tad disappointing. I honestly could not enjoy this episode despite the well animated fight and great sound effects. At least seeing team 8 back in frames again was a welcome relief. I hope we can see more of the captain and vice captain.
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Black_Sheep97 said:
BlackstarFallen said:
The stupid fanservice is ruining the show. It needs to stop.
it's there for humor and in this instance for tonal levity, it's fine and isn't overly pornographic

That doesn't matter. It's still stupid.
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