will the Scott Pilgrim anime be added to the database?

@Klonoa7H At this point, pointing out hypocrisies with obscure or even high profile entries doesn't seem to matter because their decision isn't made on logic. You can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic their way into.

Joey(the anime man) made a video about it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXqAoH2RAh4

@ParagonXXI

I think the main reason this is still an ongoing debate and no conclusion is reached yet, is because the two popular YouTubers who covered this, are either misinformed, or not good at what they do. The first is Joey Anime Man, who seems like a fine guy, but his videos are low effort and have very little research.

Only other notable YouTuber to cover this, is Geoff (Mother's Basement) who literally filled his video with outright lies.

Proof:

@ParagonXXI

I think the main reason this is still an ongoing debate and no conclusion is reached yet, is because the two popular YouTubers who covered this, are either misinformed, or not good at what they do. The first is Joey Anime Man, who seems like a fine guy, but his videos are low effort and have very little research.

Only other notable YouTuber to cover this, is Geoff (Mother's Basement) who literally filled his video with outright lies.

Proof:

Really? Could you give some direct examples of the lies he's said? Do you have evidence that contradicts his claims?

So, what's the status of this show on AniDB? Is it still looked into?

Can't believe MAL is STILL not adding this anime to this site. It should be abundantly clear at this point that it is, in fact, anime.
I get why they were hesitant at first, before the show aired - they had every right to be suspicious whether this was anime or "Netflix anime" where they market some of their shows as anime (Like Castlevania or Blood of Zeus) even though it's at best stretching the definition...
But the evidence speaks for itself.

@Shadow_Master_T

The discussion should have ended when it was found out that Science SARU handed the entire production.

considering the fact that SARU produced it, it was marketed as an anime, majority staff were japanese, AND stuff like edgerunners/afro samurai/porter robinson + good morning mvs are accepted here, I don't understand how this is anything but cope

considering the fact that SARU produced it, it was marketed as an anime, majority staff were japanese, AND stuff like edgerunners/afro samurai/porter robinson + good morning mvs are accepted here, I don't understand how this is anything but cope

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It think this is why they denied it:
AniDB is older and has a much larger database than MAL so for gray area cases like this they just follow AniDB's decision. This is also why you have to add a AniDB ID when submitting a new anime/manga on MAL.

If anyone wants this anime added here, I suggest you make a post on the AniDB forum first: https://anidb.net/forum/21/thread

Sharing cause relevant.

Sharing cause relevant.

@Plaintiff

Simulcast Day 1 in Japan
Star-studded japanese voice actor cast
Animated by a prominent anime studio
Anime studio allowed to do whatever
Marketed in japan

MAL: "Hmm this doesn't seem like anime"

@Plaintiff
While this video is interesting I don't quite agree that limited animation and "mouth flaps" are a trait that separates anime from American animation. On this point he pretty much only focuses on 90s American TV animation and ignores all TV animation from before and after that era. Where limited animation and the "mouth flap" technique, as he so professionally calls it, was also used up until the late 80s due to budgetary and time constraints, these constraints were less of a concern in the 90s and early 2000s when the US was experiencing both an economic boom and an influx of interest in more "serious" animation. These limitations did return after the 2008 economic collapse and since much TV animation is again limited animation where precise lip-syncing, lots of frames, and detailed artwork is much less of a concern. All you have to do is look at things like MLP:FiM or anything that has aired on cartoon network in the past 15 years to see what I mean.

Really, these are the only ones wich matter if we're being serious.

@Kristiwazhere American TV shows still has the mouth flap limited animation going on, only the really high budget stuff bothers to do it, and even then its a case by case situation...and that could also be said for Japanese works. Its not like Japanese animation is all just strictly limited flap animation, they have and still do produce quality mouth flap animation when they can. Pinning it as a unique stylistic choice to Japan is just not true, STEVEM and his sources are wrong with this point.

@Technopunk
Really it wasn't the mouth flap stuff that bothered me the most, but the whole thing about limited animation in general. He only referenced a very specific era of American animation and completely ignored the fact that American TV animation was basically built on limited animation, to the point that many of the techniques were invented by American studios. Also that once the economic boom of the 90s was over there has since been a massive return to limited animation. He cherry picked a very specific era of American TV animation, one that has already long since passed and based his flimsy argument entirely on it.

@LegendaryRQA True but I just wanted to hammer in the point.

Also it can't even be style thing, as there is stuff on MAL that doesn't look like stereotypical anime, but it is considered anime.

Like:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33430/Oscars_Oasis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.I.C.E. D.I.C.E was originally recorded and aired in English first and is on the database.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.I.C.E. D.I.C.E was originally recorded and aired in English first and is on the database.

add this shit already

Newtype published two interviews with series creators.

Abel Gongora:
https://webnewtype.com/report/staff/entry-28004.html

Shuuhei Handa and Masamichi Ishiyama:
https://webnewtype.com/report/staff/entry-28005.html

Lots of settei in the second one.

What’s this doing on mal? It’s for a western audience.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/56285/Ninja_Kamui

It's not approved. Maybe it won't ever be, just like SP.

Pokemon Concierge is on here, which i agree with. But why is this on here and not Scott Pilgrim?

Scott Pilgrim's entry on AniDB has been granted and will soon be added to their database.

https://anidb.net/admin/creq/17805731

MAL should follow.

Scott Pilgrim's entry on AniDB has been granted and will soon be added to their database.

https://anidb.net/admin/creq/17805731

MAL should follow.

@ukloim Does it actually work like that?

@LegendaryRQA
It doesn't.

1) AniDB and MAL are separate database with slightly different rules and "it's approved on the other database" is not taken into consideration

2) That link is for an entry that wasn't approved yet on AniDB and is the same as a pending unapproved entry on MAL (though AniDB has a better system in that you can have a discussion directly under the pending entry regarding the acceptance or not).