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BalrogLord said: This is a very good precision indeed. I have a feeling that it's the law of the jungle. He who has the strongest present that therefore increases one's own future may be able to live on while those who have weak futures simply dissipate out and the same may be seen to companies being taken as interest with "C" impact. It's another way of thinking consuming weak futures to gain for oneself more riches. |
Endar said: I wonder if Hanabi's depression is actually related to the Financial District. There is a possibility that it is not. Heck, it's even possible that she was already like this. It seems to me, that her condition is related to the Financial District. When Kimimaro went back to her house, it seemed that both Hanabi and her mother suffered memory loss (or rather, memory wipe because of the FD, I presume) and didn't know who he was. If we only looked at her behaviour in ep. 8, we could say that she's simply depressed, I guess, but this episode seems to indicate that she and her mother are also effected by the FD. |
| What's wrong with you people? He feels unattracted to a girl who looks exactly like his daughter, what is wrong with that??? The Engrish in this episode was just...engrish. Mashu wasn't Yoga's asset, it was someone else with a different name (Mua?) |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Pretty dynamic episode! I think this ep really muddied the waters further about Mikune, the first half made him look like a good guy trying to at least prevent Japan from disappearing like Singapore (where will Pirates of the Caribbean put their bustier jokes now? Oh wait, there's no Caribbean, either), while the second half was our protagonist whining about how bad a job he did of it and pussing on out on kissing his cute Asset ;) I'm guessing the first couple of posters watched the Raw version, because the subs clearly explain that Kimi's dad's Asset had a different name and hair color (and in anime, that's pretty much all you have to differentiate people half the time). This Msyu was not his dad's Asset, tho I'm sure the similarities are not simply lazy character design or coincidence. I'm sure Mikune and Kimi will wind up fighting, and hopefully that fight will get done justice at least. I have a strong feeling the 'End Boss' is the evil clown tho. Especially as he was cackling and capering about while people's lives were being annihilated, and that money counter kept going up and up ... reminded me strongly of how Wall Street's been acting the last couple of years, really. Hope Masakaki isn't 'Too Big to Fail.' |
| I think I figured out part of what is going on with Hanabi. It's her teaching thing with the children. Something happened there, probably the kids started to disappear and she knows it. The picture she cuts up is of the kids and in this episode when Kimimaro visits her, the greeting she gives him sounds like something you would say to kids. Now, how she knows they are disappearing is not clear yet. It's probably that she is an entre, since they are the only ones who thus far notice changes. The only other explanation is that she has some kind of immunity to reality changes, but the series has not really given much evidence of something like that being possible. If she is an entre, then it is possible that Kimimaro might have to fight with and/or against her in the final episodes. |
| What IF what Mikuni just did is the thing that creates the 'C' later on? |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
| It probably will. |
| Damn. Everything is starting to collapse around them. Even Hanabi got affected. So if Mashyu is Kimimaro's future daughter it's pretty obvious why he kissed her on her forehead like that. Hopefully they're still able to save what's left. In the meanwhile that Masakaki is getting richer and richer! |
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| Didn't really like this episode. Suddnenly so much techincal stuff (not that there weren't any before, but not to this extend) and overall confusement everywhere. And later half was plainly boring tbh. I wonder what exactly caused Hanabi to become like that. Also, Jennifer shouldn't talk without lollipop in her mouth. |
OrochiPLJun 11, 2011 2:16 PM
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| I still have no idea what's going on, so Mikuni gave up some of the future to have enough money to save the present but saving the present still meant losing a lot of people? just what is the Financial District and why was the C effect happening to begin with? is there no way to stop it? Mashyu doesn't want to be his "daughter" and he doesn't get it. I still don't get why Mikuni is supposed to be a villain. he's the only one trying to fix things. there's got to be more to this as right now it's just really confusing. just seems rushed, I wish they had more episodes and could take a slower pace and explain things properly. |
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| Mashu isn't Kimimaro's father's asset. Or at least it is not confirmed. As the information man said, the other one was slightly different. And did anyone notice how Mashu was shorter than Kimimaro at the scene of the kiss? What's with everyone saying how wrong is Mikuni in doing what he does? As bad as the outcome is, if he hadn't acted Japan would have freaking disappeared, or do they not realize that? |
werrstonJun 11, 2011 4:15 PM
Werrston said: What's with everyone saying how wrong is Mikuni in doing what he does? As bad as the outcome is, if he hadn't acted Japan would have freaking disappeared, or do they not realize that? True, but it's only a temporary solution. The resulting greatly weakened the country and only postponed its disappearance. I will give him credit because he actually has a plan. It's not the best plan, but it is a plan. |
| Why do they speak in english in hong kong? We speak cantonese you know?! anyway... And shanghai, they succeed to find people who really have the shanghai dialect -.- I'm amazed... There is almost nothing lest, it's too dramatic! |
| this is totally one of the best psychological animes ever |
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| I wish he would just kiss Mashyu for real! Edit: What is going on with Hanabi, seriously? |
Gar_LoganJun 12, 2011 2:35 AM
| Just occurred to me, but ... doesn't Mikuni know what 'hyperinflation' means...? That much money printed out of nowhere destroys economies... |
GarLogan78 said: What is going on with Hanabi, seriously? i got no clue either why she suddenly got depressed on episode 7 and become completely insane this episode and this episode is cool lots of speculations turns out to be real like Masyu is the future daughter of Kimimaro and they stated that Assets are personification of their dreams/future |
| Mikuni sure seems to have screwed things up but if he didn't react, then there would be no Japan anymore and thus no future for it, right ? even if the situation now is depressing... Also, a part from mad Masakaki, what i found creepy is the Midas bank thingy to print money, it looked like a beating heart...oh wait..does it mean that the Midas money is printed from the lost futures of entries who went bankrupt ? I remember Masakaki asking Mikuni to take that golden ball to his forehead and he saw something about that. Concerning Hanabi's depression, i also think something happened with the kids but at the time i think i noticed that everyone was kind of depressed: the old guy kimimaro works with seemed more depressed and the young one too, he seemed disconnected from reality. And about Mikuni and kimimaro's eventual fight, i don't see why they would need to even if it's shown in the opening, i like Mikuni and as it was said before he actually thinks about solutions. Also, i just hate Jennifer, every time i see her with a lolipop talking smart she annoys the hell out of me, she acted like a superhero when telling kimmaro to help her regain the future, Ahhhh 11 episodes aren"t just enough, i'd die if in the end the whole word gets eaten by a giant alien octopus. |
| I don't believe it Singapore is gone and it affects Hong kong, Shang hai and Japan for the worse even though Mikuni try to stop it but it still made a lot people suffer and disappear !! I got to be honest I wasn't prepare when try Msyu want Mikuni to kiss her at the mouth but luckily they didn't |
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| you are getting the names wrong you dont mean mikuni you mean yoga and masyu yogas father had an asset like masyu called Mua |
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| so wait, why does everyone keep saying that masyu is kimimarou's daughter? i mean for now shes just an embodiment of his future right? couldnt she be his future wife or something? |
| I never learned about those economic terms. =[ Glad to see lots of Engrish though. |
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batossai said: so wait, why does everyone keep saying that masyu is kimimarou's daughter? i mean for now shes just an embodiment of his future right? couldnt she be his future wife or something? Remember that scene a few episodes back where there was a father and mother deciding to name their newborn child Mysu? |
| that lady referencing "that" twice in one sentence made me laugh so hard i had to rewind to hear what everyone else was saying. the people screaming while the midas money was being printed was harsh. that "speech" made by mikuni's sister before she fell into the coma has obviously affected him extremely deeply. how she went on about how all she has is the present and she doesn't know if she'll see a tomorrow, next week, or next year. it's interesting how her passing words are ultimately affecting the fate of japan in its entirety. the only problem i have with the story so far is the claim from an earlier episode made by (i think) jennifer. she said something about financial districts probably being around since medieval times and mentioned that village disappearing ... what i want to know is how there are any countries left after the districts have been in use for so long. even if many more countries besides... caribbea ... and singapore have disappeared, it still seems like there are too many left in proportion to how long the districts have been around. on top of that, it doesn't seem like any countries are completely populated by hobos or anything. i may be letting reality cloud my imagination with this a bit - i guess third world countries could be seen as places with failing financial districts? i'm assuming that the districts came into existence when some guy decided to make a contract or whatever with masakaki, which i think may have had something to do with that village? my brother mentioned faust when we were watching it but i'm so tired i can't remember much else. and i find it really funny how masakaki fucked himself over by ~randomly picking~ kimimaro to become an entre. i guess that's just part of the game. just word vomiting before i go to sleep. |
windyJun 13, 2011 1:50 AM
GarLogan78 said: batossai said: so wait, why does everyone keep saying that masyu is kimimarou's daughter? i mean for now shes just an embodiment of his future right? couldnt she be his future wife or something? Remember that scene a few episodes back where there was a father and mother deciding to name their newborn child Mysu? In episode 9 before an argument Then Maysu gets upset and says she's fine with the way things are now. That conversation and when she gets mad right after both subtly hint that its possible Masyu could be something else besides Kimimarou's daughter. I just thought to compare the Professor's asset with his wife in episode 4. There is a resemblance its only a slight one. |
windy said: That's interesting because Masakaki may be viewed as Mephistopheles the way he tricks people into getting a large sum of money for something they merely know nothing about. The notion of hell is high so Faust may be used again in all this.my brother mentioned faust when we were watching it but i'm so tired i can't remember much else. |
| good episode overall. masakaki is full of win. |
Oosran said: Yep, battle shounen disguised as deep money show. Now I'm finally starting to doubt if they can finish this without pulling a crappy ending out of someone's rear end. Choose your crappy ending - they are sure to pick any one you can choose. There will be some sort of re-set. After all, they just pulled total God-Power out of their asses as far as having the Financial district able to change reality. BTW - for those folks who know nothing at all about how stock markets work - no stock market in the world can fall like you saw in this episode - there are automatic trading blocks that come into place. My suspension-of-disbelief started to fail last episode with the "Cariibbean Republic: crap, but it totally fell apart and went away with this awful episode. Once again, the Noitamina writers have failed totally at coming up with a convincing original story. Gawd - what a waste of time. |
zorapup said: dbaranyi said: Choose your crappy ending - they are sure to pick any one you can choose. There will be some sort of re-set. After all, they just pulled total God-Power out of their asses as far as having the Financial district able to change reality. BTW - for those folks who know nothing at all about how stock markets work - no stock market in the world can fall like you saw in this episode - there are automatic trading blocks that come into place. I have to admit that the ending is going to be tough to accept given the time. It does seem like a potential cop-out ending. Although in the case of the stock market, I figure only in anime do things like this happen. If the stock market ever dropped like that I'm sure it would be international news about failed computer systems and a virus. A couple of years ago there were problems with volatility on the NYSE - one day for example, a major stock dropped to a fraction of its normal trading price because of interplay between automated trading programs. Some smart cookie saw that and placed an order for a ton of that stock. The NYSE refused to acknowledge that order because they immediately realized that it was a software problem and not a real trade. (No one was offering the stock at that price.) Yes, markets go up and markets go down - that's how markets behave. One doesn't need magical evil forces to make that happen. Right now I'm betting that Masakaki is being written as the "Kyube" ofthis series so that they can have a simple enemy and a simple ending. BTW - the bit with Maysu (as a potential future baby) was done in Rahxephon, ten years ago or so. So was a god-re-set. But in contrast Rahxephon was intelligently written. |
| Wow that was a great episode! It was epic! So now the tables turn, I wonder how this will end? |
| Well, that explains why they fight each other in the OP... |
| Hmm, quite an interesting episode. It seems like Mikuni got a whole bunch of money using 20 years, but it only halted C for a moment and it didn't end up working. Yoga seems to be wanting to fight against him now. Masakaki or whatever his name is ... what are you planning ...? Yoga's dad had a Mashu lookalike as an Asset. Daughter thing ...? Ugh, just confused mostly now lol D: |
Confucius said: He feels unattracted to a girl who looks exactly like his daughter Gee, I certainly hope not. That would make this show way too metaphorical and have many unfortunate implications. Thing is, this show isn't "deep", and if it was trying to do anything below the surface level, then I don't think they're going to be able to pull something off that isn't incredibly offensive on some level. |
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| I still hate the fact that this show has no direction whatsoever and despite a lot of explaining, there are too many things unexplained about the financial district, such as why and how it was made (or maybe they were discussed but the show didn't do too well keeping my attention). That Kimimaro and Mashu scene was very cute though; their relationship should have been explored far more in the story. |
| Hmmm...interesting, so Kimi is finally siding with blonde big boobs. Wonder what they have in store to topple the district. She said illegal methods...really interested in what she meant with that. |
| Oh, damn, so they weren't able to fix things after all? Contrary to what Kimimaro thinks, though, this is definitely preferable to [C]. If [C] happened then there'd be no present OR future. Wonder what Kimimaro thinks he's going to do to help. Somehow destroy the system? Wouldn't that just have the same effect as [C]? Even if he takes down Mikuni, that'll change nothing except probably disturb the balance even more. |
| I'm pissed off by Jennifer too. But what's really more important is how the things changed... into some kind of indivertible state. And Hanabi too... she was so dark at the ending. I can't see where this anime is heading to =\ |
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| Wow, the world is going crazy. o.o |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Good lord, the Engrish is so laughably bad... I gotta admit, this anime doesn't make things very clear, it's pretty confusing unless you pay very close attention. I'm hoping the final two episodes are good, but I kinda doubt it... |
| i think they will try to make a second season or somthing |
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JustALEX said: Good lord, the Engrish is so laughably bad... Can't agree more. I just have to maxed the speaker just to understand what they said. A kissing scene finally happens, but only forehead kissing though. And Masakaki really gone crazy in this episode. I still don't understand what happens in this episode. I thought Mikuni saved Japan from disappear but in exchange Japan gone back to the '80s? |
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| My fkin stream keeps fkin up!!! God dammit!!! Anyways, he should have kissed her normally! He just lost his only opportunity. |
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| Hilarious kiss scene. |
| I like Hentai, you like real life. Instead of complaining about my tastes, be grateful you now don't have to compete against me. |
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