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off-season said: Muffin7 said: The writers' decisions are so wrong for so many reasons: 1- Honestly the "Determination" of Reiko is certainly leaning toward dangerous excitement for a non-experienced girl, this only gives off a delusional idea of achieving your goal while herself isn't doing any basics of experience and safety measures when it comes to such a massive dull goal of climbing mountain FUJI with a CUB, this way of writing only gives off an unrealistic and dangerous encouragement for people who want to win against themselves. poor execution for such a theme. 2- That old man is literally helping her achieving absolute stupidity and its wrong Reiko's stubbornness and foolhardiness are not unrealistic at all, and their results sure didn't look encouraging to me. Seeing Reiko blasting through hairpin turns with no guardrails like she thought she was immortal is enough to spell out the whole situation and illustrate more of her personality, no need to hammer down the point with, say, that generic anime moment when her boss roars "WATCH OUT, THAT'S DANGEROUS". The writers just aren't talking down to the audience. If that's wrong, I'd like anime done wrong more often. Judging by the majority of people in here and in some other anime forums calling Reiko a "Badass" seems like the message of reckless driving wasn't strong or clear enough. This episode pretty much tells any viewer that has absolutely no experience ridding a bike that you can ride at full throttle in an off road terrain with no training on how to tackle this kind of terrain and any kind of accident at these speeds (even if they are quite low speeds) have no actual repercutions aside from getting a dirty overall and the most minimal scratches. The fact that the cub only gets a cracked oil carter at most after being trashed over and over, just promotes the bad myth of hondas being indestructible. |
| Oh yeah, you have a point there, she was implausibly lucky. (Still, I can't imagine someone watching it all and going "wow, I'm gonna try that too".) |
| How come she didn't break any bone after having so many bad falls lmao. Falling off from bike is super dangerous, even if it's cub. Specially in mountain terrains. |
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| Training arcs are so 2020. That's why we're getting a tuning arc! |
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| me thinking the MC major event with her bike will be her falling from it at some point meanwhile Reiko was on a near sudical mission to climb mt Fuji in a summer training arc without much regard from anyone in her safety really don't know how she got out of that with just a few marks episode could be summed up as wow that was a really dumb thing you did |
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| Girl power!!!!! Reiko is admirable, even if she didn't get her goal, trying to do it is very brave thing to do. I hope she will reach the top of Fuji someday. It's so impossible that she didn't got major injury from all of her failure though, irl what she did is very very dangerous. |
| Proverbs 4:23 Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. |
| Glad to see the girls not at school, better at home together. The story really has many Japanese terms like climbing Mount Fuji and history, maybe that's why I didn't see it so interesting, anyway it was a good chapter |
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| Reiko's tough unwavering determination onto climbing Mt. Fuji using her Cub was impressive despite all of the painful falls, limited oxygen and dehydration problems! 5/5. |
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| I do love how we got some focus on another character for a change. Felt nice to see her perspective when it comes to riding a Cub. Even if it was mainly for a goal she wanted to accomplish. |
| Wow, uh, I did not like this episode at all, lol. This was my iyashikei of the season, but this episode totally broke that. Well, I mostly didn't like this episode because of how reckless Reiko was being, I did not care to watch someone without proper training and protection trying to challenge herself to her death. I couldn't believe that she didn't break any bones after how many times she had fallen off. Her dream isn't impossible, but the way she went about it as if there's no second or third chance was just...way too desperate. And I do agree that it can send a dangerous message. Sure Koguma and Reiko herself agreed that it was dumb, but I really don't think the story was good at all. I'd rather have the writer take a different approach to developing Reiko as a character. |
Atavistic said: Then of course we have the foreman not seeming remotely concerned at Reiko's recklessness and instead enabling it the whole way; sure, he helped her with the altitude sickness thing, but did nothing else to stop her even though it was clear he knew she was being reckless (as implied by the constant looks he gave her after she "surveyed the trail"). A few people brought this up, but I can't see it as particularly unrealistic; it's dependent upon the person. I'd likely do the same thing. It's not his daughter. He has a hands-off approach and likely himself experienced many things and maybe was reckless and adventurous to the point of danger in his own youth. He probably feels she needs to learn and experience it for herself, even if there are physical consequences. You may disagree with her actions or think it has a high chance of ending poorly, but at a certain point, you don't want to become involved in policing others' choices and issues like this. She's 16 - 17. Not 6 - 7 or 3 years-old. I've never owned or even ridden a motorcycle, but I also did plenty of risky and potentially life-ruining things which could have crippled or killed me when hiking, driving, etc. when in late teens to early 20s especially; the world is chaos. It's part of the learning process. I couldn't see myself stopping her either for that reason unless perhaps it was my own daughter. Kimurah said: This episode pretty much tells any viewer that has absolutely no experience ridding a bike that you can ride at full throttle in an off road terrain with no training on how to tackle this kind of terrain and any kind of accident at these speeds (even if they are quite low speeds) have no actual repercutions aside from getting a dirty overall and the most minimal scratches. Anyone who believes it "tells" them that is already a fool beyond saving. There's a difference between thinking a character is "badass" in the context of a fictional show and actually sincerely believing their actions would successfully translate to the real world and everything would be fine and dandy with no repercussions. It's called cartoon physics or anime physics. No animated shows really portray physical effects of many things realistically because it's besides the point and often would be an incredible drag. Hell, even most live action content doesn't. Seriously though - Where are all these morons that are legitimately proclaiming "A character in a show can do it so that means I can too with no consequences!" Either they don't exist and the people warning of this phenomenon are being delusional and paranoid, or they do exist in which case they're just idiotic and I don't really feel it's the responsibility of a TV show/film/video game/whatever to prevent or police their idiocy. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 7, 2021 2:22 AM
Kimurah said: This show never ceases to surprise me with it's bland and out of the left field stories. Reiko not only gets money out of nowhere to buy pricy upgrades for a cheap Cub, but also has that kind of money to have a bachelor pad out in the middle of nowhere with all of it's utilities. I expected her to be the more level headed kind of rider, but she's just a reckless teen with a death wish based on pretty much nothing (aside from very "anime" drive of doing something for the sake of proving themselves something nobody questioned in the first place) It made me cringe so hard for her delusional dream to climb Mt Fuji in a supercub (despite that the series claimed someone has done such a reckless endeavor). My biggest pet peeve with this show is that it fails to provide evidence that their characters have had proper bike training that justify their achivements out on the streets and on dangerous terrian like a steep mountain climb without any of the basic motocross wear like elbow & knee pads, proper boots and a full chest protector. And worse of all on a supercub rather than a proper motocross bike with navi tires, a proper monoshock suspension and a longer front suspension. This show goes avobe and beyond on Honda advertising for pretty much no real reason. Maybe the series should be labeled as fantasy if it keeps going with such BS advertising. At this point I'm just sticking with the series and see if the third girl will be a more believeable character. hahaha true, the most stupid thing is when the school ask koguma to help send documents and as well got paid lmao i mean reiko should bought a scrambler tbh or a better tyres |
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WatchTillTandava said: Atavistic said: Then of course we have the foreman not seeming remotely concerned at Reiko's recklessness and instead enabling it the whole way; sure, he helped her with the altitude sickness thing, but did nothing else to stop her even though it was clear he knew she was being reckless (as implied by the constant looks he gave her after she "surveyed the trail"). A few people brought this up, but I can't see it as particularly unrealistic; it's dependent upon the person. I'd likely do the same thing. It's not his daughter. He has a hands-off approach and likely himself experienced many things and maybe was reckless and adventurous to the point of danger in his own youth. He probably feels she needs to learn and experience it for herself, even if there are physical consequences. You may disagree with her actions or think it has a high chance of ending poorly, but at a certain point, you don't want to become involved in policing others' choices and issues like this. She's 16 - 17. Not 6 - 7 or 3 years-old. I've never owned or even ridden a motorcycle, but I also did plenty of risky and potentially life-ruining things which could have crippled or killed me when hiking, driving, etc. when in late teens to early 20s especially; the world is chaos. It's part of the learning process. I couldn't see myself stopping her either for that reason unless perhaps it was my own daughter. For starters, if a boss knows there could be physical consequences, it would be wise not to jeopardize this employee's health just for the sake of letting him/her learn by itself. A job is on the line and if this employee gets injured and is unable to perform the job, someone else must take place either by someone else in the same company adding yet another task to his/her already busy schedule or waste time trying to hire a new employee to fill in the role and also waste more time training the new employee. Secondly, Reiko is still a minor, not a full grown adult and to an extent companies do need to provide the safety of their employees in work hours and this certainly attracts eyes and bad rep if a minor "in care" of an employer gets injured and this kind of story gets out in public, shaming the company for it's poor choices. There's a phrase quite common for japanese people when they meet new people よろしくお願いします (Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu) and it's basically a greeting phrase, but it does have slightly different meanings depending of the context. In work enviroment can be translated to "pleased to meet you, I'll be in your care". If this nameless boss is allowing Reiko to do dangerous stuff on the company's time, he's totally not taking care of his own employees as he should for the sake of the company's rep. Atavistic said: Anyone who believes it "tells" them that is already a fool beyond saving. There's a difference between thinking a character is "badass" in the context of a fictional show and actually sincerely believing their actions would successfully translate to the real world and everything would be fine and dandy with no repercussions. It's called cartoon physics or anime physics. No animated shows really portray physical effects of many things realistically because it's besides the point and often would be an incredible drag. Hell, even most live action content doesn't. The problem lies in the tone of the series, where in previous episodes it felt more down to earth and relatable to every day ridding. These cartoon physics come out of the left field and are totally disonant to what the show represents. Atavistic said: Seriously though - Where are all these morons that are legitimately proclaiming "A character in a show can do it so that means I can too with no consequences!" Either they don't exist and the people warning of this phenomenon are being delusional and paranoid, or they do exist in which case they're just idiotic and I don't really feel it's the responsibility of a TV show/film/video game/whatever to prevent or police their idiocy. You completely missed the point of my comment in that pharagraph. I wasn't claiming that there were actual people claiming that if a cartoon character can do stupid acrobatics without repercutions they could do it too. I was talking that the particular reckless story in this episode about Reiko, didn't have a clear message of not to act just like her due to the lack of real repercutions to her behaviour and provide good judgement. True that a lot of shows don't portray realistic repercutions (as broken bones, or other kinds of injuries), but unlike you, I wouldn't call it as some sort of golden rule that "every" show plays it, there are plenty of shows that do make their characters carry on the consequences of their recklessness like Iketani from Initial D that stops running downhill races after an accident with his silvia. Regarding that these kinds of shows aren't kind of educational and therefore they don't have any responsability to warn the audience or at least to discourage viewers to do the exact same reckless acrobatics you are partially right. But again, this show represents many companies such as the animation studios, the anime comitee and it also uses Honda's name quite often, and them getting bad rep because some unexperienced rider hurt themselves by copying what Reiko did would cause bad PR for them. In these cases a simple disclaimer at the start of an episode is quite enough and speaks a lot about the sense of responsability of these companies. Even Initial D had these disclaimers at the beginning fo each episode, that it was just a fictional story and it encouraged the audience to drive safely. |
KimurahMay 7, 2021 1:37 PM
| Really didn't care for this episode. The anime was fairly mundane, but relaxing in a grounded way. But this just went straight off into the absurd, and I'm just left wondering how she didn't get a broken bone, cut, or even a single bruise from all those insane wipeouts. |
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| Know body mentions the guy who climbed mt Fuji with Monkey? How did they help? |
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Retolee said: That's my problem with it too. Outside of the very "anime" premise of our lead living on her own in high school, things have been pretty believable and mellow until now. It's a jarring tone shift.Really didn't care for this episode. The anime was fairly mundane, but relaxing in a grounded way. But this just went straight off into the absurd, and I'm just left wondering how she didn't get a broken bone, cut, or even a single bruise from all those insane wipeouts. |
| man reiko's really strong and her amount of motivation is really admirable |
| 5th episode and the third main character still has not been introduced? |
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| Reiko's attempt at climbing MT. Fuji reminded me of the girls from Yama no susume trying to climb MT. Fuji. Reiko was epic while trying to climb it. Also so Koguma's cub actually didn't kill 3 people, good to know. |
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| not really a fan of this episode, as I dislike the dangerous thing climbing a mountain with bike. No offense to fans of hobby. |
| If Reiko still feels confined living alone in that garage house then she's just like those people who cry for getting A and not A*. Reiko's literally living the dream life of many people. It's fine that Reiko wanted to climb Mt. Fuji in her super cub but the way she was riding was pissing me off. If she rode more slowly avoiding those noticeable big rocks then she could've done it but instead she was lost in her thoughts while riding. |
| Super Cub: Yama no Susume. Yes, this is fine too. Excellent, even. ^_^ |
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| I'm shocked that so many people are watching this anime and taking everything literally. "Missing the forest for the trees", right? Despite telling a Reiko side story it was as much about the Koguma, continuing to develop her by contrasting with Reiko. Koguma herself even explains near the end how she is different from Reiko and we can understand more than what she actually tells us because we've watching her. She probably would be able to climb the mountain but she don't need to. But seriously... I'm still kinda speechless that so many people watching an episode about "climbing he mountain" and didn't get it! |
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| And what Reiko did was to attempt to climb Mt. Fuji. Reiko, you can do it. And it is also very cute |
| Stupid episode. Hope this is the only one like that. |
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WatchTillTandava said: Anyone who believes it "tells" them that is already a fool beyond saving. There's a difference between thinking a character is "badass" in the context of a fictional show and actually sincerely believing their actions would successfully translate to the real world and everything would be fine and dandy with no repercussions. It's called cartoon physics or anime physics. No animated shows really portray physical effects of many things realistically because it's besides the point and often would be an incredible drag. Hell, even most live action content doesn't. Seriously though - Where are all these morons that are legitimately proclaiming "A character in a show can do it so that means I can too with no consequences!" Either they don't exist and the people warning of this phenomenon are being delusional and paranoid, or they do exist in which case they're just idiotic and I don't really feel it's the responsibility of a TV show/film/video game/whatever to prevent or police their idiocy. Thank you for having one of the only reasonable comments on this post. Yes, this is an anime not a PSA on how to safely drive a motorbike up a mountain. The older guy she was working for showed some concern for her safety (with his eyes and pauses) but you could conclude that he had been a fellow risk-taker himself and knew that there was probably nothing he could tell her to hold her back. Reiko was determined to get up that mountain and I'm sure he was cautiously rooting for her. A great episode to round out Reiko's character but also to inspire Koguma to push further outside of her comfort zone. |
| Go, Reiko! Go! I quite enjoyed this episode even if Reiko never made it to the top. Happy to know that Koguma will be getting her motorcycle license. Ah, yet another anime that's encouraging me on to start riding a motorcycle like I've been wanting to. ;o; |
| Reiko is quite the adventurer with her goal of climbing mt. Fuji using her cub even if she falls down a lot. Nice to hear about Koguma's 'murderous' Cub history which isn't actually cursed. |
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| Hm.. Is that how it supposed to go?.. To her to fall with her bike again and again?.. I just have no idea, if that is what was supposed to happen, or not.. Maybe it is what she signed up for.. It is a mountain, after all.. Well.. I have no idea.. Cursed cub, hm.. Wonder if this will come up later.. But I think this is not this kind of anime to make something tragic out of it.. But who knows.. Will see.. |
| ahah that jump from using almost exclusively impressionist classical for the soundtrack for the first 4 episodes to primarily using power metal for this one was funny as hell. |
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| Great. Cute Girls Doing Dangerous Things on murdercycles. Remind me to keep my daughters away from this anime! Seriously though, trying to ride a Super Cub up the trails on Mt. Fuji!? Please don't try this at home. These are trained, professional anime stunt characters. And what is with all these teenage girls living alone? I get that it's a thing in Japan and that a certain number of high schoolers live alone or in dorms or apartments. But where are their families? Where do they get their money, as meager as it may be... The answers are in the light novel and manga: Reiko is living in her family's vacation cabin, because she wanted to be independent and prove that she could live alone. She takes after her father who traveled the world when he was young. Reiko's family is relatively wealthy and well-connected. Reiko is an otaku, but instead of anime, games, or cosplay, she is a motorcycle otaku, spending all her time tinkering, reading about, or riding her motorcycle. Koguma's father died when she was young. When she reached the age of 16, her mother, having run through the life insurance money, abandoned Koguma with a note reading, "Bye." Koguma told her principal, and they made arrangements for her to get a one room apartment in a women-only apartment complex, and a scholarship for school that includes a stipend for living expenses. She had to pass an exam for the scholarship, which she did despite being only an average student. Koguma eats bread and packaged lunches with a little fruit and apple juice as a nutritional supplement. She put enough money aside to be able to afford the 10,000 yen (less than one hundred bucks) for the used Cub. Koguma seems to be in denial about all the charity she receives. Maybe she is aware, of it, but politely goes along with everyone else. Shino sells her a Cub for ten thousand yen, then throws in a new helmet that is worth forty thousand yen or more, and the gloves are not cheap either! Then he does her first two oil changes for 500 yen (5 bucks) each time! Her teacher finds her this job as a courier that seems to have been made up just for Koguma. Another teacher brings her a front basket for her Cub. Koguma is a very thrifty person out of necessity. But the local community is looking out for the girl who has "nothing." And so an anime about a girl who gains independence with a motorcycle becomes an anime about a girl who finds friends and community via her motorcycle. |
OG_OtakuJan 16, 2023 8:22 PM
| I like that Reiko didn't make it to the top, but ultimately she wasn't dejected or broke. She appreciated the effort she had put in even if she didn't ultimately reach her goal. I also like how she explained the three "deaths", although it must be a really small town if those three incidents were enough to start rumors of a "cursed" bike. |
| In this episode: Local rich young lady almost kills herself while trying to cllimb Mt. Fuji in a ridiculous weak bike at an unnecessary high speed. |
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| Love Koguma making Reiko dinner. I laughed so hard when the metal kicked in when Reiko started driving on the trail. Reiko had quite the summer and met most of her goal so that's cool. Then what a sweet thing for Koguma, a sleepover! |
| You know, this cheap and simple anime is better than 95% of anime in general. Yes, Super Cub have a very low budget and this anime is made more like an advertisement for Honda scooters, but there is no typical anime idiocy, no disgusting things, no "typical main characters", no vulgar humor, no loud screams and stupid jokes. Instead, there is calm atmosphere, many landscapes and scenes of nature, realistic characters who dont look like they have escaped from a circus or a mental hospital. Even despite the very bad graphics, boring music and general simplicity and naivety, Super Cub is pleasant to watch and not annoying. This anime is better than almost everything created by huge anime studios with large budgets. Its a shame that there are so few anime like this. |
| For anyone who's wondering why Reiko used a super cub instead of a more suitable motocross bike for her venture up Mt. Fuji... she was, at least in part, taking inspiration from a real life event in Honda's history. On August 4th, 1963, a 22 year old climber and biker by the name of Susumu Nabeta attempted to drive up Mt.Fuji using a Super Cub, where after 12 hours of riding, he managed to reach the summit. A couple weeks later, a team of Honda bike riders took a stab at riding up Mt. Fuji, also succeeding at reaching the summit. Source 1 Source 2 The light novel also acknowledges Reiko's decision to not get a more well suited motorbike for the journey as a conscious choice. With all that in mind, maybe Honda's extensive advertising in this episode isn't for "no real reason" like someone else previously insinuated. As for this episode promoting the "bad myth" of Honda Cubs being indestructible... I won't buy that statement unless someone can verify whether or not Honda Cubs are really that durable. I would agree that Reiko's durability in spite of her lack of protective gear is pretty questionable, though. The light novel source material may not have intended to imply that she crashed out as many times as the anime portrayed. |
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