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| The first minutes I was a little concerned that her being taken in as an apprentice was going to be poorly written but it quickly showed more promise as time went on. The artstyle for this show is beautiful too, while the animation isn't flawless the art itself reminds me of Usagi Drop with its very warm colour palette. Looking forward to what this show has to offer! |
| Really liking this show so far. This and honzuki are the 2 im most looking forward to for next week. |
| I'm looking for scenery porn, can't say I'm satisfied. Will Veronica says ara ara ufufu? |
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| I really liked the first episode, the art style is good and the story seems promising. Also it's true that women haven't been able to become successfull in art just until not too long ago. |
| Sis was about to Van Gogh her tiddies in the name of art. Go off queen! Anyways, I know that women were mistreated in the past but Jesus Christ, why did they keep pushing her out? Isn't she a noblewoman? Aren't nobles supposed to be treated a bit more gently? Everyone just yeeting her away. If Leo supposed to be Leonardo Da Vinci in a way.... then he gay. But something tells me he's gonna be the love interest. |
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| my first waifu of the season xd |
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| So awesome! I love the protagonist's determination to change society and Leo's backstory. |
| A truly interesting introduction. The main character is also quite lovable. Might check for the manga ! 4/5 |
| There's romance on this right? if there is, imma gonna let this slide. 4/5. |
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| It was way more better than what i expected ^^ I'm excited for the next episodes :) |
| I really like the characters and the setting - they work really well in conjunction with the pacing and tone. I've got really high hopes; this was a promising start. |
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| Aah~ I love it already <3 :) I laughed so hard when she said, "Yay, this is just what I wanted". :D |
Spider5786 said: Very good first episode, I think that some of the feminist SJW sorts will try and claim Arte as one of their but as we see by the similarities between her Leo that the problems faced are not in all cases a gender thing. So, some call it "feminist propaganda" and others don't even see it as feminist, that's fascinating. You know you're allowed to like feminist stories, right? Leo and Arte faced the same obstacles at one point but for different reasons, and the expectations around Arte are different too. Half of the episode is people yelling at her, telling her what a woman should and should not do and you're like "no, this show is definitely not about women", come on... It IS about women, which doesn't stop it from acknowledging other people's pain. |
| Great first episode. I didn't expect it to be that good. With Yesterday o Utatte now we have 2 great anime this season that are more calm and normal and less focused on action or weird stuff. Like the girl and Leo - both are nice chars. Him testing her and having his own past (being poor) was an interesting thing. They seemed sooo different (almost the opposite). But when she came up with the thing about her being a woman and doing her own thing (like earning money as artist instead of being a wife) it felt a bit similar to Leo who also did art to earn money. Looking forward to some nice episodical stuff mixed with char development/growth (and hopefully we'll get to see that hut on the roof transforming as well ... slowly not too fast) and maybe one or another deeper background arc. I guess Leo has rivals as well. And there might be customers or suppliers or just other chars that know him (and later start to get to know Arte) that make for nice side chars. |
| The moment when she cut her hair remind me Yona from Akatsuki no Yona. LOL |
HectorBlaze said: I necessarily have to watch a series set in Italy. The theme does not interest me too much but the series does not seem bad. Is Leo “inspired” to Leonardo Da Vinci? It’s possible. I'll have to answer you mate :) Arte is a revisitation in an anime key of Artemisia Gentileschi: she was the daughter of Caravaggio(one of the most important Italian painters)'s best friend, Orazio Gentileschi. Even if Artemisia and Leonardo Da Vinci never met, they probably used Da Vinci since he is probably the most famous artist ever. Greetings from Italy :3 HaXXspetten said: Pretty nice so far. The main girl is quite charming and it's also always fun to see actual European settings used for anime Actually Europe in the 1500s was very different from Italy: they were going through the gothic (very tall and dark buildings), while Italy was blossoming and was the place all artists looked forward to going to study. I actually love both the artistic movements, but Italy was sure "brighter" let's put it like that :) Sadly, girls were seen as merely "objects" at that time, not only in Europe but probably in all the world Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
DeadlyRavenApr 12, 2020 2:40 AM
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| Finally getting around to watching this show, and I must say that it's been a while (since Trinity Seven) I've enjoyed a Seven Arcs production (after the recent years producing shitty shows). MC girl Arte is the same as Bookworm's Myne, fawning over art than anything else (the same the latter is for books) that unfortunately isn't accepted by society. And even in the Renaissance (or olden days) period, times aren't pleasing for women (nobility or not) to shine as they're only are good for one thing: marriage. Meeting Leo is a once-in-a-lifetime chance for her to put her skills to use, but both characters have faced different backgrounds for the same passion of being an artisan. Guess two makes birds of a feather then. Other than that, the proceedings underway for Arte's start to a new life. A wonderful first episode with a nice OST, expecting more great things to come! |
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| Nice music and like the Renaissance setting. Arte is a fun and spunky MC. Pretty good so far. |
| well, Arte is totally going to be one of the 6 girls for my next signature lol she reminds me of Shirayuki, doing her best to get into a different lifestyle, not letting anyone get in her way =D the people actually throwing heron the ground and if she says something back (oh you went overboard...) the guy letting her sleep on that broken house in such a rainy night was a little overboard, but i guess she didn't get wet, and actually had a decent sleep anyway, i'm very excited to see what will come next |
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| I decided to watch this after I saw it's directed by the same man who directed Kemono no Souja Erin and it's historical. Wasn't disappointed by the first episode. Really like Arte, her master and the show's overall energy. I can see this being one of my favorites this season. |
| Good start, approximatively the same level as the manga, it's not often. I was really surprise when an adaptation was announced for this mangas but I'm really glad now. |
| last season we had keep your hands off eizouken and this season arte. girls being passionate!! girls being important and having good character development without a love interest or a male!!!!! ive always wanted a manga/anime to tackle topics like feminism/sexism and this is what i was looking for. ive also been wanting to get into more historical anime so this is great. im hyped. |
| It was a fine episode but, considering the "historical" tag, Arte felt too much like a generic female anime protagonist to me. She took me out of the show too many times to a point I couldn't really take her seriously. No one else was that anime-ish (so far) so it really irks me. I'll still give the anime a shot but I might eventually drop it if she stays like this. |
| Quite charming. Nice setting. And another good female protagonist this season. |
So Arte is 14 years old and he's .. how old again? |
Probably in his thirties but it's not weird given the historical context. Like her mom said, she was expected to marry at 15. Was normal back in the days. |
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MrAwesome2018 said: The Universal Pictures logo caught me off guard lol. And why do artists want to cut off things like ears[..] To be fair Vincent van Gogh was in really and I mean REALLY bad mental health state when he cut off his own ear. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.123/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.231/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.142/? - weekly) | MAD (Ch.34/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.101/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.28/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
Bibimbapski said: Sis was about to Van Gogh her tiddies in the name of art. Go off queen! .... -_- ... Vincent van Gogh act shouldn't be praised it was done by sick man who should get help back then. Anyways, I know that women were mistreated in the past but Jesus Christ, why did they keep pushing her out? Isn't she a noblewoman? Aren't nobles supposed to be treated a bit more gently? Everyone just yeeting her away. Yes she is, but in the same time her dad is dead (so no influence) and have zero support from her mother so they wouldn't get any money by hiring her, and in their eyes she is just a "poser" which maybe have talent by will slack off every hard work (even Leo was thinking this way). |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.123/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.231/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.142/? - weekly) | MAD (Ch.34/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.101/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.28/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
justasadguy said: I'll have to answer you mate :) Arte is a revisitation in an anime key of Artemisia Gentileschi: she was the daughter of Caravaggio(one of the most important Italian painters)'s best friend, Orazio Gentileschi. Even if Artemisia and Leonardo Da Vinci never met, they probably used Da Vinci since he is probably the most famous artist ever. Greetings from Italy :3 Just for the record... Arte IS NOT INSPIRED ON ARTEMISIA. Next time you see anyone saying she is you know it's a lie. |
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| OK episode. The main character I find is that stereo-typically positive main character, which is kind of annoying and bland IMO. Also the facial hair on dudes are bothering me for some reason. I can't stop laughing when I see it lol |
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| Wasn't into the SJW vibes at the start but they toned it down along the way and i found it enjoyable enough, Arte could be annoying but so far i find her enthusiasm charming enough. I see romance as one of the genre, considering she's 14 should light a few fires along the way. |
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| Aw she cut her hair but the almost cutting her chest was hilarious I love her determination |
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Essshke_quirt said: Probably in his thirties but it's not weird given the historical context. Like her mom said, she was expected to marry at 15. Was normal back in the days. Yeah.. I wonder how the show's going to portray their relationship.. Are they going to idealise it, or are they going to show some of the problematic aspects these relationships can have.. |
| I loved this episode, but I missed it being darker, more difficult for the protagonist. |
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this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: Probably in his thirties but it's not weird given the historical context. Like her mom said, she was expected to marry at 15. Was normal back in the days. Yeah.. I wonder how the show's going to portray their relationship.. Are they going to idealise it, or are they going to show some of the problematic aspects these relationships can have.. I think it's more likely he'll become her new father figure, but even if turns out romantic there's no problem if it's healthy. Like the age difference wasn't problematic in that time. At 15 you were an adult and expected to act and think like one, male or female. Let's also not forget that their relationship has feminist undertones either way, since he gave her a chance in a society that doesn't let women pursue their passion in creative fields. I'm not really sure what you think the problematic aspects are in regards to age difference. I think time will pass quickly in this story so she'll likely be 15 or older by the time it turns romantic (if at all). Actually this is tagges romance, didn't realise. |
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| Oh my~ she's so annoying!! So the mother lets her 15-year-old daughter roam around in the city alone begging men to look at her drawings, lets her spend the night out, doesn't scold her when she cuts her hair even though that should be an asset to get married, and with a little argument aside she lets her move in with a man, even allows her luggage to be transferred to his place. pfff wtf. |
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HectorBlaze said: I necessarily have to watch a series set in Italy. The theme does not interested me too much but the series does not seems bad. Is Leo “inspired” to Leonardo Da Vinci? It’s possible. Bibimbapski said: If Leo supposed to be Leonardo Da Vinci in a way.... then he gay. But something tells me he's gonna be the love interest. KumiSasoriza said: If it is in fact 'Leo' as in "da Vinci" ~ the facts check out as he became an independent master in Florence around the age of 26. This story definitely is looking to give us something educational and historically accurate. Dark_Kain said: Leo is probably going to be Leonardo da Vinci, though if Leo is indeed Leonardo, then his flashback is definitly not historically accurate since he had zero problems in joining Verrochio's workshop due to his father's raccomandation. thomaslin98 said: Any possibilities that we'll see DaVinci-san in the anime? Nope. Da Vinci is mentioned later in the manga as deceased already. |
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Essshke_quirt said: I think it's more likely he'll become her new father figure, but even if turns out romantic there's no problem if it's healthy. I would actually like to know what you think a healthy relationship looks like in this context. Could you expand on that? Essshke_quirt said: Like the age difference wasn't problematic in that time. Wasn't problematic or wasn't seen as problematic? Essshke_quirt said: At 15 you were an adult and expected to act and think like one, male or female. So you were expected (pressured?) to act and think a certain way regardless of what you wanted for yourself.. Sounds.. problematic. And there wasn't a single difference in how the genders were treated? Are you sure? Essshke_quirt said: Let's also not forget that their relationship has feminist undertones either way, since he gave her a chance in a society that doesn't let women pursue their passion in creative fields. So Arte got that apprentice position because of the good graces of Leo as opposed to her own talent and hard work? That.. doesn't sound like a positive feminist message.. It sounds like.. male savioring. There's actually a trope on this.. Essshke_quirt said: I'm not really sure what you think the problematic aspects are in regards to age difference. Age difference.. Not necessarily. Age difference where one of the partners is underage.. Yeah, that could be a problem. Is the underage partner developmentally or emotionally ready to consent to sex. Is the older partner a predator? These are some of the aspects you need to consider. The question is, why do you think a relationship between an adult and an adolescent can't be problematic? Other type of relationships can be too, by the way. Essshke_quirt said: I think time will pass quickly in this story so she'll likely be 15 or older by the time it turns romantic (if at all). Doesn't necessarily make it less problematic. |
this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: I think it's more likely he'll become her new father figure, but even if turns out romantic there's no problem if it's healthy. I would actually like to know what you think a healthy relationship looks like in this context. Could you expand on that? Idk, not being pressured into marriage seems like a good step since that was going to happen to her and happened to most young girls during that time. If she simply falls in love with him and he with her, I'm not sure under which context that would be ''problematic'', unless you insist the age difference is the problem, which I would disagree with. this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: Like the age difference wasn't problematic in that time. Wasn't problematic or wasn't seen as problematic? Not seen I guess? I mean that was the way back then. It's contextual. There's no point in imposing our morality on theirs so agressively. There's enough subtext to pick up on that's clearly feminist. this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: At 15 you were an adult and expected to act and think like one, male or female. So you were expected (pressured?) to act and think a certain way regardless of what you wanted for yourself.. Sounds.. problematic. Never said it wasn't? I'm just saying at that age you were expected to work/marry. this_shit_again said: And there wasn't a single difference in how the genders were treated? Are you sure? Where do I imply this? Wtf? this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: Let's also not forget that their relationship has feminist undertones either way, since he gave her a chance in a society that doesn't let women pursue their passion in creative fields. So Arte got that apprentice position because of the good graces of Leo as opposed to her own talent and hard work? That.. doesn't sound like a positive feminist message.. It sounds like.. male savioring. It's both? Did you even watch the episode? How would she even get that apprentice position without any help from Leo, if literally every single other male dismissed her? And in the end she did it completely on her own because he expected her to fail... but it's the fact Leo has a workshop and accepts her what makes her able to pursue her dream, so really I don't get what you're trying to say. Your extreme bias is showing... This isn't what happened. Also you need to understand that the author is clearly condemning the opression of women. this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: I'm not really sure what you think the problematic aspects are in regards to age difference. Age difference.. Not necessarily. Age difference where one of the partners is underage.. Yeah, that could be a problem. Is the underage partner developmentally or emotionally ready to consent to sex. Is the older partner a predator? These are some of the aspects you need to consider. She wouldn't be seen as underage during that time has been my point from the start. She doesn't even see herself as underage or Leo as too old. Leo doesn't see her as underage either. They are not concerned with that. Of course, the author can through subtext focus on that, and might will in the future, but doesn't need to, and that wouldn't mean the message is that it's ideal or something. this_shit_again said: The question is, why do you think a relationship between an adult and an adolescent can't be problematic? Other type of relationships can be too, by the way. I never said it couldn't be, I'm saying the potential relationship between Arte and Leo doesn't need to have any problematic aspects. this_shit_again said: Essshke_quirt said: I think time will pass quickly in this story so she'll likely be 15 or older by the time it turns romantic (if at all). Doesn't necessarily make it less problematic. Well, if you wanna impose your moralistic outlook to that of people from 4 centuries ago, go on, I just hope you understand that it doesn't make any sense. I really don't undestand what you think the problematic aspects are if they were to get in a relationship. Read some Otoyomegatari bruh. |
Essshke_quirtApr 7, 2020 1:57 PM
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