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Sep 21, 2012 3:41 AM

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ssjokg said:
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Nice episode, Kirei vs Kiritsugu was one of the most memorable battles.
I hope in the Blueray they include a bit more about Lancelot's past, I've read about it on Typemoon wiki.

The part inside the Grail reminded me The End of Evangelion.


FZ does not require a philosophy
academic degree to understand.


You mean Shinji isn't an allegory to Jesus? Shit, I've been doing it wrong.
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Oct 15, 2012 2:13 PM
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This episode was awesome. Enjoyed every single second of it.
Kerry is also awesome.

Plus, I loved seeing Saber in despair when Kerry forced her to attack the Grail.
Haha! lol

5/5!
Oct 19, 2012 10:14 PM

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I knew Berserker VS. Saber was rushed. I really have to read the novel. Anyway, one more episode to go. Psyched! XD
Oct 23, 2012 4:32 PM

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Man I felt sorry for Saber all she ever sought was the grail only for her master to be the one to stop her.
I would love to see a match between Kirei and Souichirou Kuzuki (from F/SN).
Seeing Kiritsugu in the grail I understand him better and for the first time I saw his emotion of the child like delusion falling before him.
Wow she refused Gilgamesh's proposal how dare she.....Gilgamesh kill her
Oct 29, 2012 4:30 PM

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um i just finished this but why did kirstigu get the grail ?
Gil didn't die ? so how ? =="

Oct 29, 2012 4:39 PM

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bladebreaker said:
um i just finished this but why did kirstigu get the grail ?
Gil didn't die ? so how ? =="
the grail needs a big amount of mana to be completed.Depending on the Servant the amount of mana that goes to the grail is different.
Gil' mana for example ,equals that of 4 or 6 average Servants I dont remember exactly.

Rider too has much more mana than the average Servant.With Waver using the Seals that was increased even more.Berserker too had just been defeated.
Oct 29, 2012 4:51 PM

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aha , thank you for the help
i get it ^^

Nov 24, 2012 7:36 AM

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Damn so much epic action, iri became the grail and the ending was just to fucking epic all tension gathered for the ending!
Dec 9, 2012 9:01 PM

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i just finished it, but i don't get something, so the choice that kiritsugu had to make is save her wife and daughter or kill 6 billion people because that's the only thing that the grail could do for him?
Dec 10, 2012 3:55 AM

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felipekorbes said:
i just finished it, but i don't get something, so the choice that kiritsugu had to make is save her wife and daughter or kill 6 billion people because that's the only thing that the grail could do for him?

That was his "choice" yeah.But the grail would kill them too.As long as there are at least two people,conflicts will exist.The only question is if Kiritusgu would be left alive or not.
And it's not exactly for him.No matter the wish and the person wishing it, the grail will make it true through destruction of the world.
Dec 11, 2012 6:00 PM

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ssjokg said:
felipekorbes said:
i just finished it, but i don't get something, so the choice that kiritsugu had to make is save her wife and daughter or kill 6 billion people because that's the only thing that the grail could do for him?

That was his "choice" yeah.But the grail would kill them too.As long as there are at least two people,conflicts will exist.The only question is if Kiritusgu would be left alive or not.
And it's not exactly for him.No matter the wish and the person wishing it, the grail will make it true through destruction of the world.


So the grail wasn't destroyed by saber and the grail did that with the city?
Dec 11, 2012 6:08 PM

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felipekorbes said:
ssjokg said:
felipekorbes said:
i just finished it, but i don't get something, so the choice that kiritsugu had to make is save her wife and daughter or kill 6 billion people because that's the only thing that the grail could do for him?

That was his "choice" yeah.But the grail would kill them too.As long as there are at least two people,conflicts will exist.The only question is if Kiritusgu would be left alive or not.
And it's not exactly for him.No matter the wish and the person wishing it, the grail will make it true through destruction of the world.


So the grail wasn't destroyed by saber and the grail did that with the city?
The grail was destroyed but its contents werent.Kiritsugu should have ordered her to attack the hole in the sky instead of the cup.But there was no way for him to know that.
Dec 12, 2012 6:38 PM

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The grail was destroyed but its contents werent.Kiritsugu should have ordered her to attack the hole in the sky instead of the cup.But there was no way for him to know that.

Oh, thank you, everything is clear now
Dec 24, 2012 7:51 AM

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That was some epic shit right there.
Dec 25, 2012 12:10 PM

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Time laps is the most beautiful thing in the world.
Jan 23, 2013 10:37 AM

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wow ... when he killed Ilya in his dream I felt sooooo flippin bad for him, but if the holy grail had such a twisted way of working to grant the wish shouldn't they have known? I mean this wasn't the first holy grail war ...
Feb 1, 2013 3:52 AM
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I wonder would this be better if I didn't know that Kiritsugu was going to make Saber destroy the Grail. Well, good episode.

I don't think grail just offers his wife and child against 6 billion people, it is just symbolic. It represents the conflict that Kiritsugu has in his heart. But, even if it is the way I understood, I think that could be shown better.
Feb 24, 2013 9:05 AM

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Tears of epicness were shed while this song was playing.
Mar 4, 2013 8:15 AM

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Pff, Saber is such a boring character, can't believe all badass characters were killed. I'm greatly disappointed.

Mar 19, 2013 9:21 PM

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Lol so eh killed his wife? what happened?
Mar 20, 2013 3:18 AM

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Confucius said:
Lol so eh killed his wife? what happened?
Iri was already dead.That Iri and Ilya was just Angra Mainyu toying with him.
Jun 7, 2013 7:48 AM
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I expected the Kirei vs Emiya fight to be a trickster-y one, not some DBZ BULLSHIT. It was too stupid for me to understand.

The rest of the episode was really good, though. I loved how the demonstrated how wrong Kiri's ideals were.
4/5
Jun 7, 2013 7:59 AM

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Pirating_Ninja said:
wow ... when he killed Ilya in his dream I felt sooooo flippin bad for him, but if the holy grail had such a twisted way of working to grant the wish shouldn't they have known? I mean this wasn't the first holy grail war ...

because grail got its twisted way of working in 3rd war so there was no one who know that
Jun 12, 2013 7:36 AM

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So the Holy Grail only grants a wish through another sacrifice. Lets see what's going to happen in the last episode.
Jun 12, 2013 10:41 AM

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iri became the cup this is the end woww... :3
it is really thrilling when kiritsugu trying to have conversation with holy grail :/

oh nice episode btw! :3
Jul 10, 2013 5:21 PM

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Shuhan said:
That was some epic shit right there.

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Jul 19, 2013 9:08 AM
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I am left breathless...
Jul 21, 2013 8:34 AM

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Oh boy, what a nice penultimate episode, with Kiritsugu beating out Kirei and getting the cup, but he commands Saber to destroy it. I just wonder why he had to use 2 command spells for that though, isn't 1 enough? I wonder how this will all end...
Jul 21, 2013 8:38 AM

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avengersaint said:
Oh boy, what a nice penultimate episode, with Kiritsugu beating out Kirei and getting the cup, but he commands Saber to destroy it. I just wonder why he had to use 2 command spells for that though, isn't 1 enough? I wonder how this will all end...
If the Heroic Spirit is strong enough it will be able to resist for a bit.Saber would have tried to blast the Grail even with one command but he wanted her to do it now not in some secs later.With one command she would either resist for a bit but hit it anyway or manage to change the course of the blast for a little bit.
Jul 26, 2013 12:01 AM

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Amazing episode, best in the series.

Don't have anything to say that hasn't been said before.
Jul 26, 2013 10:00 AM

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Wow, there was me thinking ep10 was perfect but then I see this episode... I'm speechless.
Aug 24, 2013 11:05 PM

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wow this episode give me chills, felt sad for Saber

she is so beautifull in this episode, her sadness and all of her emotions T_T

tearly eyes...

5/5
Sep 22, 2013 11:09 AM

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I don't know if I want to be emotional or dreadful of what Kiritsugu did in this episode, those illusions of his seems realistic but just an imitation of the Holy Grail. But still wants to protect the people from his vision and will stay like that.

The fighting scenes were again amazing especially on Kirei vs Kiritsugu. Oh wow that ending scene where he wants the Holy Grail to be destroyed.

Sep 24, 2013 9:10 PM
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This anime loves strangling people lol
Amazing episode, Saber's scream at the end gave me chills.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the fight between Kiritsugu and Kirei had AMAZING animation.
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Oct 8, 2013 1:25 PM

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The Grail is really a vessel of evil.... somehow I suspected something like this.

Kirei vs Kiritsugu? Awesome.
Powerful eyebrows.
Oct 18, 2013 9:34 AM

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yoooo... YYYYOOOO...
and he wanted it most o_o
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Oct 18, 2013 4:14 PM

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Saber and Berserker's fight was meh, would have needed at least one more episode :/

Kiritsugu and Kirei's fight was great. Though I didn't know that command spells can be used on oneself? I didn't get how Kirei did that.
I wonder how Kirei's gonna survive after what happened (I would have shot him a few more times if I were Kiritsugu though). Hopefully not some magic bullshit.

So the grail is actually all evil (I actually forgot that it was mentioned or not in F/SN, but it probably was). And it can't properly grant Kiritsugu's wish so it sucks :/
I like how they don't actually explain anything about why it is so and who the heck is Angra Mainyu (unless it's gonna be next episode). I looked him up though. It really sucks that Kiritsugu could have gotten his wish granted were it in an earlier war.

I feel sad for Saber getting all confused on what's wrong with Kiritsugu and his command :S
Kiritsugu appearing there and making the command twice was kind of cool :D
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Dec 28, 2013 11:35 PM

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This was by far my favorite episode of the entire series (at least, so far; haven't seen the last episode yet). Why are there so many people bitching about it for retarded reasons such as death scenes or even "whirlwind" punch (which sounds ridiculous)? Not every death in the world has to be dramatic as hell, you know?

It pisses me off how these fake excuses for anime lovers can rate an episode low because it's merely a tiny bit different from the LN. True fact: Light novels are not perfect. The worst I've seen was when people called out IS 2 for having too much fan service and being a disgrace to the light novels, when the LN had an extra 2 volumes-worth of fan service.

Favorite episode by far. 5/5
Dec 28, 2013 11:41 PM

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When you leave an entire back story of TWO characters out for no real reason then of course a lot of people will be angry.
Dec 29, 2013 3:55 PM

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Of course, but there are people giving the episode 2/5 (like you) and under just for that? Simply ridiculous. People that spend their time bashing on an anime and then ending up giving it a 9/10 is pretty ironic.
Dec 29, 2013 7:18 PM

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LividDavid said:
Of course, but there are people giving the episode 2/5 (like you) and under just for that? Simply ridiculous. People that spend their time bashing on an anime and then ending up giving it a 9/10 is pretty ironic.

YEs I rated this single ep 2/5.It is and adaptation.Cutting 2 characters' ENTIRE development is a pretty big fucking deal.And it isnt only LN readers that have this problem.
I still gave it a 10/10.I dont understand what your problem is?
Dec 30, 2013 3:29 PM
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ssjokg said:
LividDavid said:
Of course, but there are people giving the episode 2/5 (like you) and under just for that? Simply ridiculous. People that spend their time bashing on an anime and then ending up giving it a 9/10 is pretty ironic.

YEs I rated this single ep 2/5.It is and adaptation.Cutting 2 characters' ENTIRE development is a pretty big fucking deal.And it isnt only LN readers that have this problem.
I still gave it a 10/10.I dont understand what your problem is?


If only Ufotable decided to spend that last bit of money on giving the series one more episode instead of wasting it by extending "A Day in the Life of Loli Rin".

Oh well...
Dec 30, 2013 6:15 PM

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ssjokg said:
LividDavid said:
Of course, but there are people giving the episode 2/5 (like you) and under just for that? Simply ridiculous. People that spend their time bashing on an anime and then ending up giving it a 9/10 is pretty ironic.

YEs I rated this single ep 2/5.It is and adaptation.Cutting 2 characters' ENTIRE development is a pretty big fucking deal.And it isnt only LN readers that have this problem.
I still gave it a 10/10.I dont understand what your problem is?


My problem? Comparing shit to the light novel is my problem. I doubt you would've given this a 2/5 had the LN didn't have the character development at all. The anime wrapped everything up nicely in the last episode, anyways.

All in all, 8.5/10 for both seasons.

And yes, only LN readers have this type of problem. Otherwise episodes 1-5 of S1 might as well have been rated 1/5 or 2/5. If someone had rated episode 11 a 2/5 and not have read the LN, I would guess they didn't even like the series at all to begin with.
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LividDavid said:
ssjokg said:
LividDavid said:
Of course, but there are people giving the episode 2/5 (like you) and under just for that? Simply ridiculous. People that spend their time bashing on an anime and then ending up giving it a 9/10 is pretty ironic.

YEs I rated this single ep 2/5.It is and adaptation.Cutting 2 characters' ENTIRE development is a pretty big fucking deal.And it isnt only LN readers that have this problem.
I still gave it a 10/10.I dont understand what your problem is?


My problem? Comparing shit to the light novel is my problem. I doubt you would've given this a 2/5 had the LN didn't have the character development at all. The anime wrapped everything up nicely in the last episode, anyways.

All in all, 8.5/10 for both seasons.

And yes, only LN readers have this type of problem. Otherwise episodes 1-5 of S1 might as well have been rated 1/5 or 2/5. If someone had rated episode 11 a 2/5 and not have read the LN, I would guess they didn't even like the series at all to begin with.

Great assumptions there..

And no if you had actually read the thread and not just my post you would know that non LN readers had a problem as well.
Feb 16, 2014 8:01 AM

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What...:(
Feb 16, 2014 12:23 PM

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really good episode

gotta go watch some more of it
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Mar 7, 2014 9:21 PM

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Kiritsugu vs Kirei was awesome and heart poundingly intense. I had a feeling the Holy Grail was too good to be true, everything comes at a price. That vision was mindblowing, especially watching Kiritsugu kill visions of his own family. Kiritsugu commanding Saber to destroy the grail twice was really something else. I wonder how this is going to end.

Onward to the conclusion.
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RazielZero said:
So the grail is actually all evil (I actually forgot that it was mentioned or not in F/SN, but it probably was). And it can't properly grant Kiritsugu's wish so it sucks :/
I like how they don't actually explain anything about why it is so and who the heck is Angra Mainyu (unless it's gonna be next episode). I looked him up though. It really sucks that Kiritsugu could have gotten his wish granted were it in an earlier war.


read the fate/stay night visual novel for an explanation

Mar 19, 2014 10:58 AM

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A very psychological episode, and I rather liked it.
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Apr 12, 2014 3:44 AM
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That batman hideout I think they took quite a number of reference from the dark knight which I don't think its necessary.

This episode was alright but I think it have been alot better
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