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Nov 8, 2013 10:11 PM

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tsudecimo said:
ultimalord said:


Do you know how many fans like to call clannad the most realistic romance EVER?

Clannad season 1 and the first half of after story were shit.
Second half was decent, but ending was made for losers who can't handle life consequences.

I thought you meant realistic in the context of realistic characters, romance, relationships, not the supernatural elements.


Tbh, key's handling of characters and drama is forced and over the top.

AS basically pokes the viewer's head while chanting "are you feeling emotional yet?!" in every possible moment with its constantly overdramatic and fluffy style that makes scenes annoying rather than emotional and natural, to the point I didn't even cared about the characters.Which is a shame given how the concept of becoming a independent adult and parent is a fairly underused subject when it comes to anime, and AS did tried to be realistic, but this writing style only suits for a harem-based "problem solver" story concept that was the first Clannad series and the first eight episodes of AS.
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Nov 8, 2013 10:16 PM
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shattereddreamzz said:
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I'll be nice and fair and say a good 65% of shows have some greatness to it regardless how good or bad the show is. Why do I say so? I'm a generally nice critic.

Does that include school days as well?


Fuck yeah. You, by giving it a 1 lack the appreciation for its greatness my good sir
10/10 show > Clannad
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Nov 8, 2013 10:53 PM
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lol is just like me to make the most unbiased comment in a topic
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Nov 8, 2013 11:42 PM

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xEmptiness said:
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Yes, http://myanimelist.net/profile/Yakub/reviews&p=2
read his review,
School days is more realistic and better than clannad.


This review just goes to show that anything can be justified as a masterpiece.

My friend, dear Prophet! On this day I claim witness to your humble, yet ever noble truth. As pronounced at the start of all things: in all Anime is there Mastery of 2D and in 2D is Mastery of all life itself. With the movement of the ages coincides the movement on screen. When tastes change, when popularity fades; still there is Mastery! Greatness echoes in every still, in each pure syllable, with the closing of the preview or in the recap of the day, unadulterated and outstanding; the true Beauty and Infinite Masterpiece.
When man asks, "Is this Anime good?" they have fallen, forgetting that all Anime are born equal; forever supreme, everlasting and Above any reproach.
Those who would question this close will find the path to Animedom as intended. Those who forget and ignore the brilliant goodness of all 2D shall forever wallow in regretful loss; overwhelmed in sadness, demons in their heart and folly in their minds.
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Nov 9, 2013 12:31 AM

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Mod Note: I've cleaned out most of the spam which consisted of comparing one well known show with another. Please try and keep on focus. The question was what proportion of all shows are great, not the relative merits of one or two particular shows.
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Nov 9, 2013 1:40 AM

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Well its different for everyone so its kind of hard to say.

For ME:
76/456 were 8/10 (very good)
10/456 were 9/10 (amazing/great)
3/456 were 10/10 (masterpiece)
Total: 89 very good anime

Don't get me wrong though, I love my 7s. Ive seen a lot of "good" anime, but only 89 were very good or above.
Nov 9, 2013 1:56 AM
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A great anime? Fate/Zero did it quite well.
Nov 9, 2013 1:58 AM

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judging from the 9 and 10 score i gave its not much
Nov 9, 2013 1:59 AM

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Those that I gave 9s and 10s are what I consider great anime for me
Those with 8 is average good
Those with 7 I still like them though people seem to underestimate
Nov 9, 2013 2:08 AM

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geralt said:
None, anime is garbage Breaking Bad for the win.


Breaking Bad ended. Anime lives on.
Nov 9, 2013 2:09 AM

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Well depending on the series, it can either be a 8 or a 9, since I rate based on enjoyment + the features of said series.
8 anime wise, approximately 18.93% (71 of 375)
8 manga wise, approximately 14.38% (21 of 146)
9 anime wise, approximately 7.11% (20 of 281)
9 manga wise, approximately 7.53% (11 of 146)
Of course those are only estimates, though.
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Nov 9, 2013 3:57 AM

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Looking through my full list, I count 74 total 9s or above, out of over 1420 total titles (including ones I haven't added yet). This gives an average of about 5.2% managing this. Though, a couple of those could be revised down at some point . . .

As for 10s, that's a whopping 6, for an astoundingly low 0.42%.
Nov 9, 2013 6:47 AM

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MALgraph says it's 44 shows I've rated with a 9, and 9 of them that I've rated with a 10, so that would make 53 shows in my case, with my rating average being 5.68.

And I estimate that there will be at least another 30 shows that will fill the criteria of being "great", though I think the show's I've rated with 8's and 7's were also quite worth the while.

Nov 9, 2013 8:49 AM

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tx for the legit answers guys. to those still poking me, i did state, twice i think, that i realize this will be a completely subjective assessment. that doesn't mean opinions don't matter.

and if you truly think that school days or clannad are epic masterpieces, then go on wit yo bad self! but i rather hear about how many shows you've seen and how many you truly love. ^^
Nov 9, 2013 9:16 AM

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Hi, I am an easily entertained individual.

And taking that into account, it seems my ratio of shows I find great (9 or 10) is around the 29% (92 entries out of 317).

I don't know what does that say about me, but it's just how it is.
Nov 9, 2013 10:55 AM
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layfonkun said:
None of you are hardcore, real pros don't give out 10s. This thread is made of lies!

And this is coming from someone with a private anime list.
Nov 9, 2013 10:58 AM

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FrostedSilver964 said:
Goryo said:
the ratio becomes 36/242
Umm, that's not a ratio...

I failed algebra. Fuck off.
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Nov 9, 2013 11:28 AM

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Goryo said:
FrostedSilver964 said:
Goryo said:
the ratio becomes 36/242
Umm, that's not a ratio...

I failed algebra. Fuck off.

You don't need to know Algebra to know what a ratio is.
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Nov 9, 2013 2:24 PM

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If we're talking a 9 or above as being "great" then 401 of 1,392.
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Nov 9, 2013 2:46 PM
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I can't put a count on it. My opinion won't change a thing
Nov 9, 2013 3:01 PM

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the thing is, when i joined this board it made me feel like i wasn't a real fan or something b/c my watched list is so small. Granted, I've forgotten a lot of the old stuff, but still.

I guess I started this thread b/c I've recently begun to realize that there are simply a finite number of anime I might rate 8 or above, and that I wanted to seek them out first if I possible.

i do watch weird junk from time to time, but I've dropped more than are on my list. frankly my lists blow. perhaps i'll clean them up if i have a slow afternoon.
Nov 9, 2013 3:11 PM

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I give bad shows good ratings because I like them.

I give good shows bad ratings because I dislike them.

Depending on who you are, nobody can really recommend you a great anime because what holds true for them may not be your case, unless you can nitpick away at all the different shows and decide that the perfect anime MUST have all these things.

For example, I hate fan service, Highschool DxD is an 8, I gave it a 5, something pretty average to be honest.

But while I don't like it, you might. There's no way of telling whether or not you like a show unless you yourself watch it.
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Nov 9, 2013 6:29 PM

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Well I try to use the whole 1-10 scale, so I can easily use the Mal numeric value for great 8/10 soo.. let me add it up

I got 14 8/10 8.05% , 10 9/10 5.75% and I got 6 10/10 3.45%

So in total 17.25% of the Anime I have watched I thought I was Great or even better. Which I think is probably a lot lower than the average.
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ElPysCongroo said:
Well I try to use the whole 1-10 scale, so I can easily use the Mal numeric value for great 8/10 soo.. let me add it up

I got 14 8/10 8.05% , 10 9/10 5.75% and I got 6 10/10 3.45%

So in total 17.25% of the Anime I have watched I thought I was Great or even better. Which I think is probably a lot lower than the average.
MAL's value for great is 9, not 8.
Nov 9, 2013 6:34 PM
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60/567 of mine are 9/10 so I guess about one in ten is something I considered great.

Feels pretty reasonable, really. I wouldnt expect any more than 10% of something to be 'great' compared to everything else..
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Nov 9, 2013 6:41 PM

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IntroverTurtle said:
ElPysCongroo said:
MAL's value for great is 9, not 8.


Hmm and so it is, I don't know why I thought it was when I typed it out. I think it was because some said it in a post earlier on, meh, I do the maths again.
So its even lower than originally thought, only 9.2% of the anime I have watched I thought was great or better.
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not gonna count my list but it's at minimum 15 endearing show for anyone from my limited experience.
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well according to me, 120 [of the 914 anime that I've watched] have been great or even better. if I combine sequels and movies, the grand total is 95.
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