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Jan 26, 2013 6:41 PM

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Yay, Haruka's turn!~ She's my favorite ^__^ I also believe this episode was very rushed, and lost a lot of impact @__@ Especially that bench scene. They really need to ease into each girl's route better than this.. ;__;
Jan 26, 2013 6:46 PM

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Good start to my favorite arc. I'm glad to see they toned down the bench scene, since it was a little silly for her to go crazy about a bench... it made more sense in the student council room.

Jan 26, 2013 6:50 PM
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RyanSaotome said:
Good start to my favorite arc. I'm glad to see they toned down the bench scene, since it was a little silly for her to go crazy about a bench... it made more sense in the student council room.


Actually I think the difference in this adaptation is not to HATE completely to Kanata.

In the VN she is a bitch with all the letters, but here JCstaff has been constantly adding little details here and there to show that Kanata is not as bad as it seems.
Jan 26, 2013 6:51 PM

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Yeah, I've pretty much stopped caring what others think about this show... at least Japan is buying it up so its guaranteed a sequel, and they are all that really matter IMO. For me, I'm really enjoying seeing my favorite VN animated, and thats enough for me.

Jan 26, 2013 6:52 PM
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I thought it was fine, and apparently (as of as I type this) the vast major of voters feel the same as about 65% gave this episode a 5/5 and another 15% a 4/5.

(shrug) it's okay if you don't like it, but I just felt the need to point out that it seems most people liked.
Jan 26, 2013 6:52 PM

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I think the only ones that are complaining are the VN readers <_< I kinda liked this episode..poor Haruka :(
Jan 26, 2013 7:00 PM

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mistress_kisara said:
I think the only ones that are complaining are the VN readers <_< I kinda liked this episode..poor Haruka :(


true i'm VN reader. but i'm not really dissapointed... XD



Jan 26, 2013 7:01 PM

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they skipped literally half of harukas arc.

Komari had scenes in the anime with Riki where shes slowly piecing the information together and goes from genki to melancholic at times.

Mio had scenes under the tree where she foreshadows her motives, and you can tell something is wrong.

HARUKA HOWEVER goes from straight genki to outbursting without ANY TRANSITION. where the hell did those random glimpses of her worrisome expression go? the random encounters in the hallways where she's randomly pissed off and doesnt want to talk to anybody?

the Headphone scene, Cake scene, and visiting her house all takes place BEFORE the bench scene. why are they rearranging the events?

i looked at the preview pictures and was relieved to see that the last picture was of the bench scene and i had thought they were going to end this episode with that as the climax. (The bench scene was painful because of the tone and atmosphere created surrounding haruka's memories. she spent like 10 minutes explaining to Riki why the bench was so special to her in the VN as opposed to "oh yea im a public maintenance officer and this bench is better than the others")

Nope they decided to just grab the middle of her arc and throw it on a canvas as hard as they could. there's absolutely no delicacy!

i hate how they toned down everything and decided to drown it with unfitting music.. anime kanata is so weak.... Feels like a god damn show intended for kids.VERY JC STAFF LIKE.
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Jan 26, 2013 7:03 PM
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Funya finally snapped....
Jan 26, 2013 7:04 PM

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I'm sorry you don't like it Funya. Maybe you should go back to reading the VN since its apparently so much better?

Jan 26, 2013 7:09 PM

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Funya-Usagi said:
they skipped literally half of harukas arc.

Komari had scenes in the anime with Riki where shes slowly piecing the information together and goes from genki to melancholic at times.

Mio had scenes under the tree where she foreshadows her motives, and you can tell something is wrong.

HARUKA HOWEVER goes from straight genki to outbursting without ANY TRANSITION. where the hell did those random glimpses of her worrisome expression go? the random encounters in the hallways where she's randomly pissed off and doesnt want to talk to anybody?

the Headphone scene, Cake scene, and visiting her house all takes place BEFORE the bench scene. why are they rearranging the events?

i looked at the preview pictures and was relieved to see that the last picture was of the bench scene and i had thought they were going to end this episode with that as the climax. (The bench scene was painful because of the tone and atmosphere created surrounding haruka's memories. she spent like 10 minutes explaining to Riki why the bench was so special to her in the VN as opposed to "oh yea im a public maintenance officer and this bench is better than the others")

Nope they decided to just grab the middle of her arc and throw it on a canvas as hard as they could. there's absolutely no delicacy!

i hate how they toned down everything and decided to drown it with unfitting music.. anime kanata is so weak.... Feels like a god damn show intended for kids.VERY JC STAFF LIKE.


11/10

Wholly agree. There are lots of any kinds of strong emotions(Love, Hate, etc) lingering and you can only see them on Haruka's path but what JC Staff did is they nerf(Or remove) everything as fuck. The feels are lost.


Jan 26, 2013 7:10 PM

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nope. i gotta wait to see them butcher the door-kun scene
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Jan 26, 2013 7:10 PM

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FFFUUU Director! this is why i wish the arcs were 4 episodes instead of 3 so we don't feel like everything is crammed together

though to be fair even though i understand why they toned it down a bit one of my favorite parts of this arc was Haruka's emotion just how bat shit crazy she sounded to the point were it kinda gave me chills i just pray the *Rain* is done really well and i might restore a bit of faith again

arc isn't off to a terrible start it just could have been better in not feeling forced at some points.
Jan 26, 2013 7:14 PM

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Sa-chan_ said:
Funya-Usagi said:
they skipped literally half of harukas arc.

Komari had scenes in the anime with Riki where shes slowly piecing the information together and goes from genki to melancholic at times.

Mio had scenes under the tree where she foreshadows her motives, and you can tell something is wrong.

HARUKA HOWEVER goes from straight genki to outbursting without ANY TRANSITION. where the hell did those random glimpses of her worrisome expression go? the random encounters in the hallways where she's randomly pissed off and doesnt want to talk to anybody?

the Headphone scene, Cake scene, and visiting her house all takes place BEFORE the bench scene. why are they rearranging the events?

i looked at the preview pictures and was relieved to see that the last picture was of the bench scene and i had thought they were going to end this episode with that as the climax. (The bench scene was painful because of the tone and atmosphere created surrounding haruka's memories. she spent like 10 minutes explaining to Riki why the bench was so special to her in the VN as opposed to "oh yea im a public maintenance officer and this bench is better than the others")

Nope they decided to just grab the middle of her arc and throw it on a canvas as hard as they could. there's absolutely no delicacy!

i hate how they toned down everything and decided to drown it with unfitting music.. anime kanata is so weak.... Feels like a god damn show intended for kids.VERY JC STAFF LIKE.


11/10

Wholly agree. There are lots of any kinds of strong emotions(Love, Hate, etc) lingering and you can only see them on Haruka's path but what JC Staff did is they nerf(Or remove) everything as fuck. The feels are lost.
eh after reading this,this pretty much sums up my thoughts *lack of build up for this was depressing
Jan 26, 2013 7:21 PM
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Wow, I just remembered, Do you know what this adaptation of routes reminds me of?

You see when you patch the english patch for Little Buster on the Little Busters EX you lose your access to the H-scenes and if you try to access a Sex scene it takes you straight to the middle of the route.
Komari - the morning of the day she sees the dead cat
Haruka - the day of bench fiasco

etc.

lol...
Jan 26, 2013 7:28 PM

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Funya-Usagi said:
they skipped literally half of harukas arc.

Komari had scenes in the anime with Riki where shes slowly piecing the information together and goes from genki to melancholic at times.

Mio had scenes under the tree where she foreshadows her motives, and you can tell something is wrong.

HARUKA HOWEVER goes from straight genki to outbursting without ANY TRANSITION. where the hell did those random glimpses of her worrisome expression go? the random encounters in the hallways where she's randomly pissed off and doesnt want to talk to anybody?

the Headphone scene, Cake scene, and visiting her house all takes place BEFORE the bench scene. why are they rearranging the events?

i looked at the preview pictures and was relieved to see that the last picture was of the bench scene and i had thought they were going to end this episode with that as the climax. (The bench scene was painful because of the tone and atmosphere created surrounding haruka's memories. she spent like 10 minutes explaining to Riki why the bench was so special to her in the VN as opposed to "oh yea im a public maintenance officer and this bench is better than the others")

Nope they decided to just grab the middle of her arc and throw it on a canvas as hard as they could. there's absolutely no delicacy!

i hate how they toned down everything and decided to drown it with unfitting music.. anime kanata is so weak.... Feels like a god damn show intended for kids.VERY JC STAFF LIKE.


Indeed.
I can recall all of those events, and remember there was a slow and steady buildup in Haruka's behavior throughout the VN.

Her route took me 3-4 hours to complete, so compressing it to this extent was pretty lame for me. I also mentioned Futaki's portrayal being much different in the anime as in the VN.

Everything is rushed, so there's less screentime for every single character, which makes things like Futaki being a total bitch in the beginning, and then not as bad in the end seem too quick and forced.

I also lol'd at what blasterion said.

In terms of adaptations, in my opinion.
Mio>Komari>Haruka(so far...)in terms of overall quality for anime watchers

In terms of closeness to the VN:
Komari>Mio>Haruka

Too much of the story was dumped out of Mio and Haruka's routes, even though I enjoyed them in the VN more than Komari's.
Jan 26, 2013 7:38 PM
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Vladz0r said:
Funya-Usagi said:
they skipped literally half of harukas arc.

Komari had scenes in the anime with Riki where shes slowly piecing the information together and goes from genki to melancholic at times.

Mio had scenes under the tree where she foreshadows her motives, and you can tell something is wrong.

HARUKA HOWEVER goes from straight genki to outbursting without ANY TRANSITION. where the hell did those random glimpses of her worrisome expression go? the random encounters in the hallways where she's randomly pissed off and doesnt want to talk to anybody?

the Headphone scene, Cake scene, and visiting her house all takes place BEFORE the bench scene. why are they rearranging the events?

i looked at the preview pictures and was relieved to see that the last picture was of the bench scene and i had thought they were going to end this episode with that as the climax. (The bench scene was painful because of the tone and atmosphere created surrounding haruka's memories. she spent like 10 minutes explaining to Riki why the bench was so special to her in the VN as opposed to "oh yea im a public maintenance officer and this bench is better than the others")

Nope they decided to just grab the middle of her arc and throw it on a canvas as hard as they could. there's absolutely no delicacy!

i hate how they toned down everything and decided to drown it with unfitting music.. anime kanata is so weak.... Feels like a god damn show intended for kids.VERY JC STAFF LIKE.


Indeed.
I can recall all of those events, and remember there was a slow and steady buildup in Haruka's behavior throughout the VN.

Her route took me 3-4 hours to complete, so compressing it to this extent was pretty lame for me. I also mentioned Futaki's portrayal being much different in the anime as in the VN.

Everything is rushed, so there's less screentime for every single character, which makes things like Futaki being a total bitch in the beginning, and then not as bad in the end seem too quick and forced.

I also lol'd at what blasterion said.

In terms of adaptations, in my opinion.
Mio>Komari>Haruka(so far...)in terms of overall quality for anime watchers

In terms of closeness to the VN:
Komari>Mio>Haruka

Too much of the story was dumped out of Mio and Haruka's routes, even though I enjoyed them in the VN more than Komari's.

I never cease to entertain you ;)

also that's because Komari route didn't have much meat to begin with, or at least that's what I felt.
Jan 26, 2013 7:40 PM
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I actually abuse that function to skip to my favorite parts of the routes.
Jan 26, 2013 7:41 PM

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i also had no idea kyousuke is actually a time traveler and concieved haruka

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Jan 26, 2013 7:43 PM
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i also had no idea kyousuke is actually a time traveler and concieved haruka


Jan 26, 2013 7:47 PM

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I guess they're too lazy to create a face for the father so they used kyousuke but with a shaved beard.
Jan 26, 2013 7:50 PM

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Pretty rushed episode but I hope

Jan 26, 2013 7:53 PM

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What's about the rain scene? I kinda forgot what happened there. But I guess it's a good thing that I forgot that...


Probably that would be the ending scene for the next episode


Jan 26, 2013 7:55 PM

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What's about the rain scene? I kinda forgot. But I guess it's a good thing that I forgot that...


Jan 26, 2013 8:04 PM

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Serano said:
Sa-chan_ said:
What's about the rain scene? I kinda forgot. But I guess it's a good thing that I forgot that...




Oh. I thought something "extravagant" happened during the rain scene.


Jan 26, 2013 8:08 PM

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hmmm, no house visits and cakes? they really are going off a little, putting the bench scene right at the beginning. considering how it was originally a really emotional scene, it just didnt have as much of an impact as it should have in the anime

lol at kyousuke-saigusa dad
i understand that he didnt really have a face in the VN, but using kyousuke with a shave beard is pretty lazy, but funny

blasterion said:
Funya-Usagi said:
i also had no idea kyousuke is actually a time traveler and concieved haruka




^and lol, this too

<img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/2mw85l2.jpg" />
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Sa-chan_ said:
Serano said:
Sa-chan_ said:
What's about the rain scene? I kinda forgot. But I guess it's a good thing that I forgot that...




Oh. I thought something "extravagant" happened during the rain scene.

Jan 26, 2013 8:17 PM

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I almost cried watching this so the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
Jan 26, 2013 8:27 PM

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The bench scene gave me some shivers, but i legitimately shed more than 1-2 tears, and teared through the whole flyers issue. It hit me pretty damn hard...
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Jan 26, 2013 8:29 PM

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I almost cried watching this so the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
I think it's probably because in the VN, there are more powerful emotions than that at this point xD The bench scene definitely had a lot of buildup, and it was definitely more than "just a bench" in the VN. Not to mention reordering a lot of things that ended up not happening (yet?) in the anime.

But I still stand by my previous opinion that this can be good if they do it right in the next few episodes, though definitely not better than the VN.
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Jan 26, 2013 8:29 PM
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ihateeveryone said:
I almost cried watching this so the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.

Kurugaya route, (beginning) had better than
than this, in the VN what Kanata does to Haruka makes you down right sick, you literarily had to save, quit, and get some fresh air, so you can keep reading without retching.
Jan 26, 2013 8:32 PM

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ihateeveryone said:
I almost cried watching this so the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.


Same, I had some tears in my eyes for most of the episode. The music was so amazing for the scenes, and they really adapted the scene where Haruka flipped out well.
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hey... hey guys...

you ready for this? ...

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Jan 26, 2013 8:52 PM

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I was expecting Haruka's dad looks like a punk or something closer to a punk but it turned out into a recycled design of Kyousuke.

And I'm the only one who's getting annoyed at the Air-like OST? They always keep using it every episode until as I think they're bragging about it because it's their original anime OST.
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Jan 26, 2013 8:55 PM
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Read Episode reviews before watching Episode.

No idea if this episode is even worth it according to these comments.
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Jan 26, 2013 9:01 PM

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Funya-Usagi said:
hey... hey guys...

you ready for this? ...



BRILLIANT. Who woulda thought!?

Either way, I'm enjoying this for what it is. Ah, am I glad to have this ability called "watching without judging anything and everything".
Jan 26, 2013 9:02 PM

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I really do want to play the visual novel, but isn't it better to wait for the ME translation (not interested in EX's h-scenes)? I don't want to have to play through the whole game twice to read the EX routes (and I believe there's extra content for the main routes as well). I don't mean to distract from the discussion of this episode; just an answer or two would be fine.

Jan 26, 2013 9:04 PM

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I really do want to play the visual novel, but isn't it better to wait for the ME translation (not interested in EX's h-scenes)?


Well, I believe the release of the patch(Probably partial, meaning only Saya's path isn't translated on that partial patch) is on the way. Anyway, playing its VN until Refrain is still worth it yet if you're really concerned about the extra contents on Haruka's path and Kud's path, it's up to you.


Jan 26, 2013 9:06 PM

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lol at UTW.... changing shaka shaka hey! to neko neko yay
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Jan 26, 2013 9:24 PM

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the only minus poin here maybe just too rush... but the other i really enjoyed this..
i felt so bad for saigusa... X")



Jan 26, 2013 9:29 PM

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Her arc was bloody long in the Visual Novel, how are they meant to fit this into 3 episodes without rushing it?
Bench scene at the very beginning of the episode/arc. Really?
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Jan 26, 2013 9:41 PM

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Eliberous said:
Her arc was bloody long in the Visual Novel, how are they meant to fit this into 3 episodes without rushing it?
Bench scene at the very beginning of the episode/arc. Really?


3-4 hours from the VN into 3 episodes? Seems legit.
le sigh...
Jan 26, 2013 9:43 PM

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Eliberous said:
Her arc was bloody long in the Visual Novel, how are they meant to fit this into 3 episodes without rushing it?
Bench scene at the very beginning of the episode/arc. Really?


The entire VN is like 50 hours and they are likely gonna take 39 episodes for the adaption. 3 episodes is right on pace... asking for any more is unreasonable. Its not like this is some long running battle shonen which has unlimited episodes to do whatever they want. They're on a limit.
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Jan 26, 2013 9:45 PM

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is the episode really that bad...


Yes
Jan 26, 2013 9:50 PM

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TOTALLY called that they were twins. 0_0 Still, don't know how the arc will go... Haruka's attitude was underwhelming.
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....Screw that, let's shoot the damn thing!
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A lot of people are saying how disappointed they are, but I don't share the same opinion. It did transition rather quickly, but it's not the first episode where Kanata and Haruka had a face-off, so it's fine I think.

Not much to say here, but as a VN reader, I think the episode was done quite well. Haruka route in 3 episodes does seem rushed, but I'll save that judgment for when the route is over.

Oh, and:
RIP Benchy TT~TT

Edit: On reading through some of the earlier comments more thoroughly, I have to add something...

SERIOUSLY GUYS? I'm not trying to start a flame war, nor am I belittling anyone's opinion, but I seriously can't help but feel some of the VN readers are acting like spoiled brats. The sheer hate that's coming across is astounding, and this is episode 16 for crying out loud. Some of you are acting a little overprivileged, don't you think? How the hell was this episode as bad as you're making it out to be? Reading these comments feels like episode 1 all over again.
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i would oh shit but i saw this coming from a mile away.
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SERIOUSLY GUYS? I'm not trying to start a flame war, nor am I belittling anyone's opinion, but I seriously can't help but feel some of the VN readers are acting like spoiled brats. The sheer hate that's coming across is astounding, and this is episode 16 for crying out loud. Some of you are acting a little overprivileged, don't you think? How the hell was this episode as bad as you're making it out to be? Reading these comments feels like episode 1 all over again.


Exactly, this is still one of the best anime VN adaptions ever. The fact they are actually animating everything makes it a great VN adaption, since the majority of them only do 1 route... I can't think of many VNs other than Key stuff that actually got full adaptions... Steins;Gate, and nothing else comes to mind.. People should be happy we're getting a full adaption instead of just skipping everything but the main story in the first place.
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I expected the twin thing, just not the family situation
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Overall, a very good episode for me. I can't understand why some people here doesn't like it. It is just that Bench-kun lacked some "character development" so his death was a bit rushed for me. (I just hope that Door-kun will not suffer the same fate lol)

Anyway, I can't wait to see the rest of the route as Haruka's route is my favorite :P
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