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Jan 26, 2013 5:56 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Oh damn, Haruka is pissed and has dramatic emotions this episode. That's something I didn't see out of her much. Hell, she even makes it to the papers.

Poor Haruka ;.;



So, I think this is definitely her route now so going to see how interesting it goes.
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Jan 26, 2013 5:58 AM

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fucking disappointed.

Pre-op scenes looked absolutely terrible in terms of animation, masato/haruka's interaction sounded so forced. The tone literally changed from happy go lucky to depressing without ANY TRANSITION.

and oh bench-chan............bench scene was one of the highlights of Haruka's route and they somehow ruined it completely (SHE COMPLETELY DIDNT CARE AT ALL???) , Haruka's crying sounds so fucking forced and different.

the whole thing felt rushed to hell despite being the first episode of her arc.

what in the holy hell? everything was going pretty good for the past 5-6 episodes?

whats with everything feeling so god damn FORCED this ep. Fuck the episode director.
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Jan 26, 2013 6:14 AM

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Funya finally snapped
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:18 AM

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Watched this episode live and it was not broadcast well on web, so I will have to edit my message later after watching the raw, but:

I personally think that the animation in this episode is relatively great, comparing to other episodes.

It is just that the bench scene doesn't have that much impact, and that pacing is a bit rushed.

Other's are fine.
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:24 AM

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is the episode really that bad...
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:30 AM

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Well, I think that the episode wasn't as bad as how Funya-Usagi said... it is just that Haruka went gloomier and gloomier after being constantly bullied by the prefects and finally snapped hard when her favourite bench was destroyed. The anime version didn't snap Haruka that hard until the prefect room scene though.
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:32 AM

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I don't mind the rushed episode since I find that part in her route boring.

But the later parts, I hope they don't screw up.
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:32 AM
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xMaebaraK1x said:
Well, I think that the episode wasn't as bad as how Funya-Usagi said... it is just that Haruka went gloomier and gloomier after being constantly bullied by the prefects and finally snapped hard when her favourite bench was destroyed. The anime version didn't snap Haruka that hard until the prefect room scene though.

LoveIU said:
Funya finally snapped

Funya snapped harder than Haruka.
 
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Jan 26, 2013 6:34 AM

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blasterion said:
xMaebaraK1x said:
Well, I think that the episode wasn't as bad as how Funya-Usagi said... it is just that Haruka went gloomier and gloomier after being constantly bullied by the prefects and finally snapped hard when her favourite bench was destroyed. The anime version didn't snap Haruka that hard until the prefect room scene though.

LoveIU said:
Funya finally snapped

Funya snapped harder than Haruka.

lol

AceFlonne said:
I don't mind the rushed episode since I find that part in her route boring.

But the later parts, I hope they don't screw up.


Yea,
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Jan 26, 2013 6:34 AM

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going down again? haha... XD



 
Jan 26, 2013 6:44 AM
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xMaebaraK1x said:
blasterion said:
xMaebaraK1x said:
Well, I think that the episode wasn't as bad as how Funya-Usagi said... it is just that Haruka went gloomier and gloomier after being constantly bullied by the prefects and finally snapped hard when her favourite bench was destroyed. The anime version didn't snap Haruka that hard until the prefect room scene though.

LoveIU said:
Funya finally snapped

Funya snapped harder than Haruka.

lol

AceFlonne said:
I don't mind the rushed episode since I find that part in her route boring.

But the later parts, I hope they don't screw up.


Yea,

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Komari, Haruka, Kyou, Lucia I love them all !!!!
 
Jan 26, 2013 7:16 AM

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Rewatched the episode as a raw.

While putting a lot of scenes inside one episode, all of them are over-simplified and the episode actually felt slow -- (below is a huge paragraph of an example)

If you know what I mean --- it felt slow and boring, while one-hour worth of stuff were actually being cramped together. Simplifying things and THEN pulling it back long. It feels like scaling a 1000x1000 image into a 100x100 image, and THEN scaling it back to 700x700.

Well I was just exaggerating it. It was simplified -- to something just enough to tell us "what happened", but failed to convey that level of emotion in the VN.

But yeah, at least it was still better done than the early Komari route.
Btw, is it really fine to put Alicemagic after all that as an ED? It was just like watching AS.
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xMaebaraK1x said:
Rewatched the episode as a raw.

While putting a lot of scenes inside one episode, all of them are over-simplified and the episode actually felt slow -- (below is a huge paragraph of an example)

If you know what I mean --- it felt slow and boring, while one-hour worth of stuff were actually being cramped together. Simplifying things and THEN pulling it back long. It feels like scaling a 1000x1000 image into a 100x100 image, and THEN scaling it back to 700x700.

Well I was just exaggerating it. It was simplified -- to something just enough to tell us "what happened", but failed to convey that level of emotion in the VN.

But yeah, at least it was still better done than the early Komari route.
Btw, is it really fine to put Alicemagic after all that as an ED? It was just like watching AS.

Let's face it early Komari route in VN wasn't stellar either.
 
Jan 26, 2013 7:37 AM

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Not a satisfying episode. Seriously, if there's something I should say, the LB! heroine routes deserved at least 4 episodes; the 3 episodes they're getting (except 1 we don't know for sure yet) is resulting in the scenes in their routes to be completely rushed (Mio's although I'm pretty satisfied with it, it could have been better) or bsed (Komari, 1st episode of Haruka).

This episode was pretty bad. Bad animation, badly drawn art, horrible pacing... is there something else I need to add to this? The bench scene was one of the biggest impact moments for me (aside from when Haruka rages at Riki and 2-3 other scenes) and it was basically bsed here. After the bench scene, I HATED Kanata (I'm neutral now) but I don't feel hatred towards her as I did in the vn.

Oh well, I hope the next one will be better T__T
 
Jan 26, 2013 7:49 AM
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FUNYA SNAPPED

I think the episode was ok. The more glorious parts of the story is still to come.
 
Jan 26, 2013 7:51 AM
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FUNYA SNAPPED
we should restrain him before he hurts himself
 
Jan 26, 2013 7:59 AM

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UGH.

Drama impact on the first half nerfed and everything else is rushed as hell of fuck. I can tell that this arc will be butchered. This opinion is still apply if I didn't regard myself as VN player.


 
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UGH.

Drama impact on the first half nerfed and everything else is rushed as hell of fuck. I can tell that this arc will be butchered.

I am tempted to skip the episode.
 
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blasterion said:
Sa-chan_ said:
UGH.

Drama impact on the first half nerfed and everything else is rushed as hell of fuck. I can tell that this arc will be butchered.

I am tempted to skip the episode.


I can see this arc is having the same fate of Kyou OVA.


 
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I was a little disappointed by the fact that Haruka didn't go crazy towards the end of the ep, but I can actually see JCs reasoning. I feel that even if she did, people would've said "Wow. That was so underwhelming! It just came out of nowhere! Way to go JC! You messed up again!". I mean, there hasn't been enough time for JC to actually make that out burst effective and I felt that in the VN, Haruka going insane felt a little over done because of how many times it happened. I feel that because of what they done here, the rest of the arc will be complimented. Especially the rain scene. I felt that with the previous out bursts, the out burst then was just under-whelming. This way, the rain scene will be much more of a surprise to the viewers and be MUCH more effective.

Overall, I'm reserving my judgement on this route until they finish it.
 
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Sa-chan_ said:
blasterion said:
Sa-chan_ said:
UGH.

Drama impact on the first half nerfed and everything else is rushed as hell of fuck. I can tell that this arc will be butchered.

I am tempted to skip the episode.


I can see this arc is having the same fate of Kyou OVA.

Kyou OVA was terrible though, I loved Kyou! She was my favorite and it was ruined =(
 
Jan 26, 2013 11:54 AM

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Wow, a few guys come out from nowhere and demolish the bench in an eye blink. Felt like I missed something there...
 
Jan 26, 2013 12:26 PM

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I guess no one likes haruka and komari. / Maybe j.c. staff staff is having a argument of who the best girl is? Maybe they decided that komari and haruka were the worst among the team. What did you say komari route is next? Fuck that im calling in sick.
 
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What did you say komari route is next? Fuck that im calling in sick.


lmao.
 
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I guess no one likes haruka and komari. / Maybe j.c. staff staff is having a argument of who the best girl is? Maybe they decided that komari and haruka were the worst among the team. What did you say komari route is next? Fuck that im calling in sick.

Haruka is like Kyou in Clannad, Great route, awesome scenes forever overshadowed by Tomoyo route (Kurugaya route)
 
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Is episode 16 that bad?..

SUB THE EPISODE ALREADY SONS :(
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blasterion said:



Will you please put this one on spoiler tags? Only few played EX and most of the people here are yet to see Saya's debut.



Doki planned to translate the new contents in the Common Route and in some heroines' paths(Haruka's and Kud's) first and translating Saya's will be their last objective.
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blasterion said:



Will you please put this one on spoiler tags? Only few played EX and most of the people here are yet to see Saya's debut.



Doki planned to translate the new contents in the Common Route and in some heroines' paths(Haruka's and Kud's) and translating Saya's will be the last objective.

I said that in jest, they wouldn't have realized what I said was serious =/
 
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I said that in jest, they wouldn't have realized what I said was serious =/


Probably so. Anyway, I think most of the people who only played the regular version and got curious about Saya's story tried to spoiled themselves so I guess it doesn't matter.


 
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Was never a fan of Harukas Arc, so I hope they don't extend it too long. Was a good episode nonetheless not as boring as the VN had it.

But after watching it fully, they butchered it already lul.
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I was a little disappointed by the fact that Haruka didn't go crazy towards the end of the ep, but I can actually see JCs reasoning. I feel that even if she did, people would've said "Wow. That was so underwhelming! It just came out of nowhere! Way to go JC! You messed up again!". I mean, there hasn't been enough time for JC to actually make that out burst effective and I felt that in the VN, Haruka going insane felt a little over done because of how many times it happened. I feel that because of what they done here, the rest of the arc will be complimented. Especially the rain scene. I felt that with the previous out bursts, the out burst then was just under-whelming. This way, the rain scene will be much more of a surprise to the viewers and be MUCH more effective.

Overall, I'm reserving my judgement on this route until they finish it.

I agree with this. Looking forward to future episodes... I hoped they'd have kept some of the feels in the bench scene but well. :c
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Well, it felt a bit rushed, and the atmosphere was a bit uneven, but it was an entertaining episode nonetheless. I'm just said for the departure of bench-kun :(
 
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Glad they toned things down a bit, wasn't a fan of the drama in Haruka's route.
 
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Haven't played the VN so I don't know how the pace feels.
Man I wanted to punch Futaki so badly, being all bitchy.
At first I thought Haruka's dad murdered Futaki's family but then it was revelead they were twins?!?
 
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Haven't played the VN so I don't know how the pace feels.
Man I wanted to punch Futaki so badly, being all bitchy.
At first I thought Haruka's dad murdered Futaki's family but then it was revelead they were twins?!?

For everytime you wanted to punch Futaki in the anime, You want to kick her 5 times reading the VN. Was the episode depressing? yes. But the appealing part or awesome part of Haruka route was that you felt down right sick reading what she goes through line by line.
 
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I loved this episode. I felt terrible for Haruka and the flyer scenes were powerful. If she had gone crazy during the bench scene, I would have been more critical. It's just a bench. But then again, maybe the order of the scenes plays a role in that. The VN version must be amazing if you guys are complaining.

 
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I loved this episode. I felt terrible for Haruka and the flyer scenes were powerful. If she had gone crazy during the bench scene, I would have been more critical. It's just a bench. But then again, maybe the order of the scenes plays a role in that. The VN version must be amazing if you guys are complaining.

If you like Haruka's arc so far, you'll have something in store for you if you read the VN.
 
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This episode was really rushed;

Like it though, since it's my favorite arc...also like how they include all the other girl in the arcs
 
Jan 26, 2013 6:01 PM

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Lol, I give up on this adaptation. Seriously. Director should just get fired already.
 
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I loved this episode. I felt terrible for Haruka and the flyer scenes were powerful. If she had gone crazy during the bench scene, I would have been more critical. It's just a bench. But then again, maybe the order of the scenes plays a role in that. The VN version must be amazing if you guys are complaining.

If you like Haruka's arc so far, you'll have something in store for you if you read the VN.

I had to save and quit the VN a couple of times in the middle of the route because I felt too sick to continue.
 
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Watching this again but with subs is making me want to puke. This episode is just so bad in many levels.


Are Key staff members seriously watching this over?
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It's pretty funny to read people so disappointed at the point of claim that this episode was the worst of the show, or even, bad animated.

I can say IMO this was one of the better animated chapters, or if not, at least the most consistent of all the previous ones.

For me was a fairly good episode, they handled quite good the important stuff even in that rushed way. And I really like that everyone in the LB! team is participating in the resolution of troubles.

The only complaint maybe is the bench scene, they actually could have taken better advantage with more destruction scenes, that was really faster.
Finally the pacing matters. You all know that routes were to be rushed due to Komari and Mio were rushed. So, if that's the problem here the series is ruined from the very beginning to everyone who is expecting masterpieces in every single chapter. Lower your standards, really. If not, the only thing you're gonna receive will be more and more disappointments. This is not Kyoani, and you've had 16 chapters to digest it.

For me, I consider this like one of the best episode so far. It really notices the change after the first half of the series.
 
Jan 26, 2013 6:18 PM

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haha.... i don't really like haruka's route. so i know it will happen.. XD



 
Jan 26, 2013 6:21 PM

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This is not Kyoani


So? What are you trying to imply?


I thought we're already done about that bullshit so why bring that up again?


 
Jan 26, 2013 6:22 PM
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Sa-chan_ said:
serphirs said:

This is not Kyoani


So? What are you trying to imply?


I thought we're already done about that bullshit.

/sigh instead of becoming more depressed reading the thread I'll just go finish Rewrite Terra tonight or something.
 
Jan 26, 2013 6:23 PM

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Damn it, completely altered some of the elements of that route. The bench however was alright, but it was lacking the emotion compared to the VN.

Seeing the emotions on Haruka was so pitiful, but at least somewhere close as good as the original. Overall, still going to continue on my fav route.
 
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Sa-chan_ said:


So? What are you trying to imply?


I thought we're already done about that bullshit so why bring that up again?


Oh, sorry.
I just got here to this forum a few chapters ago. But hey, I smell a bit of anger in your commentary. Maybe a "Tabu" word here or something? xD

The main point is that bipolarity that some people here has between chapters. They know that the thing they have in their hands is far to be perfect, but still suffer after months of chapters.
 
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I enjoyed the episode even though it's rushed. I guess I'm better off not reading the VN if I want to continue watching the anime o.o
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