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| my my,,.so sad to know that they won't be together,.,.but that little twist in the end of the episode is so good,.,to know that Wil is still together with allison but is now known as Travas,.,.all in all this episode is great,.,.one thing that I'm disappointed is that allison don't know that Travas is actually his real father Wil but since I understand the reason behind that,.,guess its fine,.,hehe |
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| Guess in their world you can have babies holding hands :v |
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| I admit, it broke my heart at first when it said that Allison had a boyfriend after Wil died... |
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| I was pretty sad when they mentioned that Wil had died. Then that sadness went away when i realized that he's probably still alive. The sadness came back when I realized Allison was still alone with Lilia. Then the sadness turned to anger when Lilia mentioned that Allison was going on a date. Then I loled at the way Wil looks. |
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cyruz said: That's crap. Why would Will leave Allison and his life just because there's a civil war in one of the hundreds of countries in the world. This episode sucked, I'm disappointed. Not even the time skip could change my opinion. THIS. WHAT THE FUCK MAN! I NEVER KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TIME SKIP LIKE THAT! WHAT THE FUCK?! HOW CAN HE JUST LEAVE ALLISON LIKE THAT WOW?! BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BRING WORLD PEACE? WHAT THE FUCK EXCUSE IS THAT?! WHY THE HECK WAS WITH THAT TIME SKIP?! WHAT THE HECK I'M PISSED BRB BASHING MY PILLOW. EDIT: WHAT THE HECK KIND OF JOB WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO FUCKING 'DIE'?! THAT'S SO RETARDED MAN SO PISSED PFFT. |
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| aghh! i dont like it how they ended appart from each other!!! Wil didn't even know that he's father and Allison to end up living alone ... I don't like that at all !! |
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| Oh I remember this series. Great first half :> |
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| WHAT??? I don't..why did that idiot leave her and she let him >_>. And now its about their daughter?? |
| I notice the episode focused on Will wedding ring. I cannot remember when they had a wedding and what was shocking, was Allison being pregnant... there was practically zero romantic build-up at all. I'm amaze Will hasn't shouted out to her, that he loves her during sex or any normal occasion :) FYI PEOPLE, WILL IS BACK AS ALLISON BOYFRIEND. The coffee was a easy hint. Would of been more funny, if he came back fat, the total opposite of Allison dad... |
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| Why does it refuse to say that they got married? How bizarre. This author just cannot depict actual human emotions. It's been that way the whole time but it's been becoming more and more of a problem. And what's this about Allison's dad being a knight who never betrays who he serves? He's a spy; pretty much all he does is betray people. Or I guess that's supposed to be in service of his true chosen master; world peace? But how was he working for world peace before the cave painting was discovered? As a spy wouldn't be be called to advance the interest of only Sou Beil? This makes very little sense. Lionizing him and ignoring that he deliberately abandoned his daughter (and then stole her husband!) and is a cold-blooded killer is way too simplistic. The only good thing about this episode is that Allison is a quite a good-looking middle-aged woman; much prettier than the baby-faced supposed young-adult Allison we've seen until now. |
| I was about to rage then I saw Travas and was like...oh he came back :D! |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| An interesting episode, I think this quote sums up my thoughts on Will's actions perfectly - Takuan_Soho said: What you are missing is the simple fact that there are a lot of vested interest in war and that war, not peace, is the natural state of man. It requires people with vision to protect peace, people willing to confront those who would benefit from war starting again, people willing to sacrifice themselves for this greater good. Allison respects both her father and Will for their decisions to protect this fragile peace, even though it causes her both hardship and loneliness, because she understands this, that if her father did not abandon her, many more people would have died, she also understands that Will leaving her is the best choice to ensure that their daughter grows up in a peaceful world, not one dominated by war. I like how their visit to Liliane last episode foreshadowed to the name Allison gave to their daughter. Lilly is just as crazy and fun as Allison so far, can't wait to see more but I hope there's some sort of adventure waiting to stir up. Although when Wil was leaving I couldn't help but laugh when he said he loved her. Like "we got married, lived together for years, had sex, you're pregnant, but this is the first time I'm going to say I love you!" Also I'm still confused to no end about their ages. |
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| I know it's late to be replying in this thread but Will is a fucking retard. There are thousands of countries having problems you can't save everyone. He's pulling the same shit as Allison's father. |
ibreaker9736 said: I know it's late to be replying in this thread but Will is a fucking retard. There are thousands of countries having problems you can't save everyone. He's pulling the same shit as Allison's father. Thats right, its all well and good that he can go be a hero and do his behind the scenes bullshit, but I say he shouldv'e been a man, put on his big boy pant,s and BEEN THERE FOR HIS FAMILY!! For fucks sake, I really hated that decision of his. The messed up part is that Allisons dad said that he must be a terrible parent to even suggest the idea to Will, NO SHIT, so why do it? I'm thinking that the asshole must just be out to fuck with Allison's life. Thus endeth the rage(at least online, irl im still flipping tables) |
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| This series is just amazingly handled story wise,like straight up a university course on how not to write your script.Just wow.... |
| Oh god dammit. Suddenly, I love this show so much. Where do I start...The constant imagery of children in the park followed by the old couple was really telling of the frame of mind both Wil and Allison were in, though in two different ways. While Allison was looking forward to those things, Wil was in regrets over what he could be missing. Very seldom will an anime have their main characters couple up, and if they do, it would be by the end of the anime. As a matter of fact, usually it would be by the end of a war if that were the type of setting. Not only does this anime officially end its war in 4 episodes, it also has their main characters marry by the halfway point. I also have to take back my previous concerns over the show overlooking the complexities of war. It's now taking its time in dealing with the issues of people whom profit off of war, as well as those that still harbor resentment at the other country. Because Wil has had a direct hand in ending the war, he also feels a responsibility in seeing the scenario through. However, he also wants to be with Allison, and though he post-justifies his actions as protecting her, he's still trying to follow his own path in life. It's quite meaningful when Allison's father remarks at him being a horrible father, as when you take a step back, you'd realize that Wil is also his son, so Allison's father is failing them both. Also, I don't think I've ever seen this before in any form of media. Allison was pregnant, but in the scene where Wil says that he has to leave, any other form of media would have had that be a huge crying scene, or at least have that be a huge blow up point with lots of drama. It's instead treated as...something really ambiguous. It's not a happy moment, but it's not a sad moment either. It's a tragic situation where both of them came to a compromise in their minds. Allison never got to tell Wil about their child, and even at the end she was still being supportive. I understand that revealing her pregnancy would absolutely prevent Wil from leaving, preventing Allison from saying anything since she didn't want to chain him down, but still. In some respects, I can see someone really harking on at Wil for being a horrible person, but as it's written, it instead paints Allison as an impossible person. There's no way someone could be that supportive, patient, nor forgiving short of an outright Saint. At the very least, in terms of media, it's a low-hanging fruit to grasp at this chance for drama. The characters here don't overact. Heck, they don't even react dramatically. They're both distraught, but they're both putting on a face to both hide their pain and, at a meta level, prevent any singular scene from getting drawn out. In part, the scenes moved really fast, almost to the point where there wasn't enough time to absorb all the events happening. In another sense, the drama weren't in the singular events, but the sum of events that both Wil and Allison have experienced together. Instead, we have a lot of smart moves here. The narration switches to Lillia, whose name is based on the town of Lilliane - a really small implied detail early on. It also marks the change of main characters after Wil leaves. The use of the plants to show the change of time in addition to Lillia's age. The portrait of Allison and Wil, where Wil's face is blurred out. There are no photos of Allison's father since he works in intelligence, therefore a blurred out photo works to both obscure Wil's face, preserve his memory, and serve as a running joke and reminder of him being obtuse. The fact that Lillia is more similar to Wil than Allison, down to the fact that she has to look after her mother. The fakeout where we're led to believe Allison got another boyfriend, but it turns out that it was actually Wil. This is signified by him burning himself on his tea, which then hearkens back to the repeated tea scenes throughout the show. Those scenes served as a landing point where the characters can return to a familiar setting despite them being older and in a different location. It affirms that no matter where they are or how much has happened, they're still the same at heart. I still question why Allison's father had to ask Wil of all people to help. Was there not any other qualified individuals? Why would he deprive his daughter of her husband after he himself left Allison behind? Also, does Wil truly love Allison? Throughout the entire show, he's been following her and has been oblivious to her feelings. Perhaps he has been in denial or been avoiding the topic, but regardless, due to the shortness of the first half, perhaps there was a lot removed pertaining to his feelings, as well as the lead up to his decision to leave. Even still, why didn't Wil refuse? He's been curious about Sou Beil and has been concerned with the relationship between the two countries for the longest time, but how is he personally obligated to partake in further political chaos? Still, the positive qualities of the episode overshadowed my qualms, as seeing all these come together really got to me. I'm really enjoying myself here. |
| I wonder if Top-Dad swooped in and slaughtered hundreds of innocents on the train so Wil could join up with him undetected... Lillia is cute. I don't mind the time-skip stuff this show's been doing because it's been pretty reasonably paced, it's just that the writing is so damn wonky. |
syncrogazerFeb 17, 2019 6:37 PM
| What a piece of human garbage! Will leaving his wife and kid for a random job. I know he's Travas but it's still sick to pretent you're your ex wife's bf. And how come that scum of a father said he'll protect everyone when he killed the chief conductor on the train. And Will happilly associated himself with that scumbag. As if he couldn't find govwrnment jobs in Roxche specifically catered to his curiosities. |
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| Does Wil have any real affection for Allison at all? It's hard to see how she became pregnant to begin with. He never showed any signs of liking her romantically during the first half of this anime, and looked visibly terrified any time Allison displayed any interest in him. He never kissed her either. Did Allison spike his tea with rohypnol and rape him while he was sleeping or something? I don't know how you can up and abandon your pregnant wife to go work for an incredibly shady forign intelligence agency. Someone like Wil would have no issue finding a relatively lucrative job locally. |
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